All offtopic posts and threads regarding the existence of the Sensation XE Developer subforum will be moved here for sometime on.
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very good for a XE Forum!!!Thanks XDA are the best!!!
It's not good idea, imo it's just making life harder for developers. Both devices are nearly the same, using the same ROM's. XE can flash regular Sensation ROM and regular Sensation can flash XE ROM. Those devices are the same, why subforum?
Not sure of this sub forum, surley XE roms will work on my normal Sensation. Well they have so far, so why the seperate forum
Is this really necessary? Same Hardware, just no OC für XE ROMs...
Wo should post in this subforum? You could post everything in both development forums, so this may be obsolete?
big_sw2000 said:
Not sure of this sub forum, surley XE roms will work on my normal Sensation. Well they have so far, so why the seperate forum
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Well...imo maybe not totally bad idea though. We can write something here to tell XE owners to go to the regular Sensation thread. After checking this sub forum then they know where to go.
I guess it would be better to rename Sensation Android Development forum to something like " Sensation and Sensation XE Android development". No need to create separate subforum as both devices are the same and can run the same ROMs.
lol.. Its like separating twins from dinner table... Its gonna cause more confusion especially for newbies...
Forum will now become flooded with posts like " will it work on Sensation?", "will it work on XE?"
Not at all a good idea...
da900 said:
I guess it would be better to rename Sensation Android Development forum to something like " Sensation and Sensation XE Android development". No need to create separate subforum as both devices are the same and can run the same ROMs.
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jjdoctor said:
lol.. Its like separating twins from dinner table... Its gonna cause more confusion especially for newbies...
Forum will now become flooded with posts like " will it work on Sensation?", "will it work on XE?"
Not at all a good idea...
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+1 for both
And this is why devs are flocking from xda...
Well I think its a good Idea, Im not sure what roms etc work with the XE so would rather know by having a section dedicated to the XE. I see were your comming from with the sensation / XE being almost the same but they are not, So IMHO this is a better Idea
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Is this really necessary? Same Hardware, just no OC für XE ROMs...
Wo should post in this subforum? You could post everything in both development forums, so this may be obsolete?
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that may be so,
but when your running an XE like me, the flashable roms like insertcoin/arhd have no real improvement over the stock xe rom (comparing to the normal sensation) apm and theming aside.
looks like rehab 4 me since i gaven my DZ away, just waiting for the nightlies to kick off..
I can understand a sensation xl or subsection, but an XE subsection? They have the exact hardware minus the beats audio, underclocked processor on the sensation, and the red XE case. Makes no sense.
Which ROM is the bes for XE do you think? I prefer Energy and Revolution HD.
taxus13 said:
Is this really necessary? Same Hardware, just no OC für XE ROMs...
Wo should post in this subforum? You could post everything in both development forums, so this may be obsolete?
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Nice to see that I'm not the only one that mixes-up German and English sometimes. ^^
supraman89 said:
I can understand a sensation xl or subsection, but an XE subsection? They have the exact hardware minus the beats audio, underclocked processor on the sensation, and the red XE case. Makes no sense.
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+1 IMHO that was a bad decision. It's going to cause even more confusion.
This subsection is now dedicated to the Sensation XE's red hardware buttons.
Discuss
No good idea in my opinion! Reasons see above..
melo15m said:
Which ROM is the bes for XE do you think? I prefer Energy and Revolution HD.
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I perfer Energy
melo15m said:
Which ROM is the bes for XE do you think? I prefer Energy and Revolution HD.
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I don't want to be rude or sth, but I did some digging into those two roms and they are both kinda slovenly build-up. I even remember Energy roms from WM development and they had probably the worst memory management I ever saw.
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Vote here for the HTC Sensation to get Cyanogen Mod Support:
http://twtpoll.com/r/hsrsfj
Please share this poll. If we can get the dev to get a HTC Sensation we'll get CM on the phone.
If the bootloader is locked as tightly as the Incredible S, then it's going to take a lot more than a dev with a phone to get CM on your device...
Going to take jesus christ and a lot of redbull.
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Yes, if, but we don't know that yet. Look at the Thunderbolt. It can be done.
Von meinen Nexus One gesendet, mit XDA Premium.
Looks like Sensation pretty much won the poll already.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/169-htc-desire-hd-htc-inspire/
So why is this so hard? If it's already out for the DHD, the chances are it will make it to the Sensation.
The encryption methods on Thunderbolt, Incredible S & Sensation are heavier than on the Desire HD first of all.
A hack for the Thunderbolt was found based on a downgraded leaked firmware that could be flashed as a means to achieve S-OFF. A similar approach was tried already for the Incredible S, but so far it has failed.
I suggest poking around the Incredible S Development forum if you want to stay updated on the prospects of hacking the Sensation too.
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/59403297395716097
@bradaparker we're gonna support the G2X. not sure about sensation yet because of the signed boot crap.
Got my vote
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nomisunrider said:
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/59403297395716097
@bradaparker we're gonna support the G2X. not sure about sensation yet because of the signed boot crap.
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That's Cyanogen himself, he doesn't like Sense UI. But others members will support Sensation.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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You're right, I buy HTC Sensation for Sense UI 3.0. But for people that like AOSP CM7 will give them choices.
PS Look like Samsux troll are out in force.... hahahaha funny as hell.
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sub0min0us said:
I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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Well, if you like Sense 3.0, then leave it on! No one forces you to install CM! I like the possibilities of individualising your phone with Cyanogen Mod!
sub0min0us said:
I don't know if it is just me but I'll buy sensation for sense 3.0 so having cyanogen doesn't makes "sense" imho. Cyanogen can be seen installed on low end devices and having it on sensation will make it look the same as low end devices. If I want cyanogen, I'll buy another one. Maybe desire or something cheaper. Just my opinion. No offense.
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Ehh everyone is different. Personally i feel sense, even in its old version, was pretty bloated. Now in its crazy 3d implementation it is even more so. I buy a device based on if its supported by cm7.
Its from my damn phone!!!
Damn, this is almost a deal breaker. I was really looking forward to this being supported by Cyanogen. Not that they still wont. I own a N1 and been running Cyan from the begining. I am not looking forward to an LG phone. It scares me. HTC builds quality phones. I hear a bunch of things about the Gx2 but if its cyan software, it may solve some issues. This phone looks so damn good tho
i wanna CM on HTC Sensation too.
how its going ?
Ask charansingh, he's on the board too.
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I'd like CM on it too. Love the sensations hardware but sense looks a bit dated and bloated to me now.
I have tried most of the UI's. Sense, by far, is the heaviest and most restrictive one. From the standard 16 apps 4x4 screen configuration to the inability to adjust certain widgets to smaller sizes. Therefore, Sense is gone for me anyway. I would welcome the mod support if I get one.
my Sensation is crying for the CM
any news ?
Hi,
I have a question:
Can be used on the "Desire" S a Sense of Transportation Romz XE can be drawn without the Beats by Dr. Dre from the Romz software and integrate it into the "Desire" S Romz.
My English is not so good. Sorry
TyRies1987 said:
Hi,
I have a question:
Can be used on the "Desire" S a Sense of Transportation Romz XE can be drawn without the Beats by Dr. Dre from the Romz software and integrate it into the "Desire" S Romz.
My English is not so good. Sorry
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Rumour has it this has recently been ported over to the Desire HD from the Sensation XE ROM (I do not know how successful it is though), so I suppose it is only a matter of time until it arrives here on the DS forums.
I am also looking forward to this day!
Not sure about usefullness of it...
Wait Wait
OK can i use a Sensetion Rom for the Desire S
TyRies1987 said:
OK can i use a Sensetion Rom for the Desire S
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you can't flash a rom from the sensation section, but if it was ported you could use it. But we do already have the sensation rom ported. Virtuous unity is the one that comes to mind but there is a whole list of sense 3.0 roms, even sense 3.5.
Also, i always thought beats was more of a hardware thing. On the HP touchpad, it has beats but when you turn it off there is no difference whatsoever (possible marketing gimmick) although the sound on the touchpad is crystal clear
found something from desire hd section:
http://www.mediafire.com/?382u5cyyy8a1fpa
It's a beats audio flashable zip taken from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17639297#post17639297
I would assume it's desire hd only but not sure
If you check the thread there's also a lot more you can see.
WOW! intersteing find!
there are like 10 avaliable zips for it... which to choose?
not gonna flash yet though, dont want a non-bootable [hone. will wait for a desire s version. any brave man up to try it though?
Hi guys
since yhesterday been reading all the posts and threads regarding the sensation xe
Apart form using pyramid3d rom i felt as if the roms designed are a step lower than stock rom. I have a samsung galaxy s2 and have had many android phones so i do know abit. Even though i still found it confusing in original section.
Iv been reading reviews and emailed HTC according to the reviews and HTC the XE is hardware 1.5 and not software overclocked and from what iv been told are slightly different. Plus i noticed that the audio beats on most roms is not as good as the stock XE rom closest i got is pyramid.
Devs prob know better than all of us would realli appreciate if some of the experts who have been here for a while to clarify this once and for all.
Thanks for Reading guys.
chwads2k8 said:
Hi guys
since yhesterday been reading all the posts and threads regarding the sensation xe
Apart form using pyramid3d rom i felt as if the roms designed are a step lower than stock rom. I have a samsung galaxy s2 and have had many android phones so i do know abit. Even though i still found it confusing in original section.
Iv been reading reviews and emailed HTC according to the reviews and HTC the XE is hardware 1.5 and not software overclocked and from what iv been told are slightly different. Plus i noticed that the audio beats on most roms is not as good as the stock XE rom closest i got is pyramid.
Devs prob know better than all of us would realli appreciate if some of the experts who have been here for a while to clarify this once and for all.
Thanks for Reading guys.
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Honestly, i'm not a dev, but as i know in hardware part original Sensation and XE one are the same. The difference is in CPU speed, but chipset is the same and in original sensation CPU speed is just underlocked with sofware to 1.2 Ghz.
Which part of this question is to do with the development of a ROM? Same rules apply to the normal Dev forum - it's for ROM threads only. Questions go in Q&A or General
it seems every single day at the moment there is a new rom in the dev section, having a sensation seems to be finally paying off.
Theres nothing really new, just sense 3.x with practically nothing extra, IMHO. Only seen 1 AOSP ROM (yikes)
Glad you're more optimistic then me lol
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Apart from the new MIUI rom...everything has been the same.
Im only waiting for the sources from htc then sense will be so great
no need for aosp
It's as Awesome as it has always been! Hang out in the Development section with our talented chefs for a while..you'll get the real picture!!
I think once source is out its going to get way better. I can't wait for official cm9 and virtuous Quattro.
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Well it's been amazing if not great. Hey at least our devs keep their ROMs updated, right?
Sensation-al! said:
Theres nothing really new, just sense 3.x with practically nothing extra, IMHO. Only seen 1 AOSP ROM (yikes)
Glad you're more optimistic then me lol
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I agree with the OP...
There's more than just Sense 3.x. There's plenty of Sense 4 ROMs now too which are very nice indeed
Ok I am I missing something or has every post in this thread missed something? Development is not just making custom ROMs. Don't get me wrong custom ROMs are great but with Qualcomm releasing the driver binaries for the Adreno 2xx Snapdragon processors., and the work being done on making the Sensation unbrickable. The Sensation is on the path to be a very valuable development device which means it is going to be open to loads of development. I would even dare say it has a capability to reach some of the level of development that the HD2 has. The driver binaries is enough on it's own as it opens up the possibility of custom bootloaders and booting of different OS's on the Sensation, I mean we do have S-off, and a official unlock from HTC Dev. Either one of these can be compared to HSPL for the HD2, without it non of the thing achieved on the HD2 would have every happened. Then you have the unbrickable work being done, this will make developers really want it because they know they have somewhat of a earth net and can revive the Sensation if they make a mistake and have to revive it. Even the legendary HD2 has never reached this status......
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Ok I am I missing something or has every post in this thread missed something? Development is not just making custom ROMs. Don't get me wrong custom ROMs are great but with Qualcomm releasing the driver binaries for the Adreno 2xx Snapdragon processors., and the work being done on making the Sensation unbrickable. The Sensation is on the path to be a very valuable development device which means it is going to be open to loads of development. I would even dare say it has a capability to reach some of the level of development that the HD2 has. The driver binaries is enough on it's own as it opens up the possibility of custom bootloaders and booting of different OS's on the Sensation, I mean we do have S-off, and a official unlock from HTC Dev. Either one of these can be compared to HSPL for the HD2, without it non of the thing achieved on the HD2 would have every happened. Then you have the unbrickable work being done, this will make developers really want it because they know they have somewhat of a earth net and can revive the Sensation if they make a mistake and have to revive it. Even the legendary HD2 has never reached this status......
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HD2 is capable of WM, WP, Android, Ubuntu....far more than just Android on the Sensation. But I can see your point.
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HD2 is capable of WM, WP, Android, Ubuntu....far more than just Android on the Sensation. But I can see your point.
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Yeah this is why I said some of the level of development. The HD2 can boot almost OS thrown at it. But I do see a real possibility of custom booloaders for the Sensation. And when you have a custom bootloader the next step is booting different OS's.
Go take a look at the G2x dev forum. Wow. Its empty.
Do we have a sense rom with Face Unlock?
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Do we have a sense rom with Face Unlock?
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All of the ics roms have that.
Guys, I'm gonna give you a little teaser... There are some thoughts of getting Ubuntu on that baby...
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I like that idea ))))
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I heard Microsoft is adding support for dualcore in wp7. Maybe htc will release a WP with similar specs as the sensation and we may get a WP7 port ? I don't think it's likely anymore though :/
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I heard Microsoft is adding support for dualcore in wp7. Maybe htc will release a WP with similar specs as the sensation and we may get a WP7 port ? I don't think it's likely anymore though :/
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Even if they do I can't see a port happening, like the Nexus One and Desire have the same chip as the Mozart, HD7 and a few others IIRC but those two haven't had ports AFAIK.
we need a license to run wp7 which we dont have
dexter93 said:
All of the ics roms have that.
Guys, I'm gonna give you a little teaser... There are some thoughts of getting Ubuntu on that baby...
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You mean natively (as in booting straight to Ubuntu) or within Android? I use BackTrack 5 in Android, it was a fun ride but I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 anyway so meh. If its native though, that would be awesome.
Also to the guy that I didn't feel like quoting who mentioned that multiple OSes on the Sensation in his mild rant; we would barely even have much of a chance to do such a thing. The closest we could do is Boot 2 Gecko, since the drivers are pretty much cross compatible. The Galaxy S II has it.
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we need a license to run wp7 which we dont have
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That didn't stop the HD2 users
I've just won a used HTC Sensation z710a (Bell) on eBay! I've been using an Acer Liquid E for 1.5 years, so I've never had to deal with any of this confusion with these "submodels".
As I understand it, the T-Mobile phone is the z710e, and the Bell one is the z710a, and these phones are exactly the same except for the HSDPA frequencies. Are there certain mods that can only be used with one submodel and not the other? I'd love a specific answer for each of ROMs, kernels, radios, etc.
I've also seen some posts about "firmware". With respect to the Sensation (and maybe all Android phones), is this referring to something different than the ROM? If so, again, is it submodel-specific?
If the answer to the above Q's is NO (i.e., z710a vs. z710e doesn't matter), what about mods for the Sensation XE?
Thanks for the help!
Edit: I know about SuperCID, I'm asking if there'll be any problems even with SuperCID.
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As I understand it, the T-Mobile phone is the z710e, and the Bell one is the z710a, and these phones are exactly the same except for the HSDPA frequencies. Are there certain mods that can only be used with one submodel and not the other? I'd love a specific answer for each of ROMs, kernels, radios, etc.
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From what I have found here on the forums, no, there is no submodel specifc ROMS etc. like what you are worried about. There are differences between the sensation and the sensation xe, but only in terms of ROMS.
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I've also seen some posts about "firmware". With respect to the Sensation (and maybe all Android phones), is this referring to something different than the ROM? If so, again, is it submodel-specific?
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Firmware is what is used to run the ROMS if you want to put it that way. The latest version of android - Icecream sandwich (ICS) - requires certain firmware to run, a different firmware to gingerbread. Firmware is dependant on your CID, not model, but if you're super CID'd then any 3.32 firmware will do.
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If the answer to the above Q's is NO (i.e., z710a vs. z710e doesn't matter), what about mods for the Sensation XE?
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ROMS can be based on the Sensation or the Sensation XE. The only difference is the XE has beats audio and runs it's cpu at 1.5GHz, while the non-XE at 1.2GHz.
Custom ROMS however give you the choice of running your cpu at 1.5 if you want, even on a standard sensation device (as the cpu chips are exactly the same). Mods and other themes are based on the ROM you chose to install (i.e. ARHD or Insertcoin), not hardware as there is no real difference between xe and non-xe devices.
I have a standard sensation running an xe version of ARHD 6.5.5. with my cpu at 1.5GHz. no problems to report yet, so i can assume you're good to go!
Thanks for all the info!