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tethering......busted....

Recieved a text from my wireless carrier stating that my tethering would be cut off or I can pay an additional $30 or so per month. I think it came down to me downloading the OS for an iphone 3gs I've been playing with. Last month I ended up with around 10gb of data usage.
Tried tethering after the deadline date and was directed to a site, stating I need to call customer service. I also tried using data on my phone at this point and was directed to the same site. Call customer service and was told to access their data I would need to give them my phones serial number. go figure.... after the past two years of playing with various phones, nexus one, vibrant, hd2, iphone 4, iphone 3gs, nexus s.... they want to know what Im using .....
Solution????
a different android phone again, with tethering.
or
drop my sim card into my iphone 3gs for a few hours and switch back to the mytouch 4g

DUDE
T-m0 said that?...
ok one are you using hotspots...if so stop im sure thats how they are monitoring your data...
try one of these
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
i personally use
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Stable
try one of these it should help
otherwise call t-m0 and tell em #&***& 2^^ with a *!!!! !#*(& in your !(*&$*( so they$&!!!
and they understand fine

Seeing as how you are getting the same site from the phone browser and the computer browser, it seems they just assume, not know you are tethering. The hold should go off after your billing month is up. If not, well do they know you have a smart phone, or are you using it on a feature phone plan? If it is the later, then giving them a smart phone serial will probably make them change your plan to a smart phone plan.

I heard if you use the stock tethering app they charge you... what if you use the one that's built into CM 7? isn't that the same as using android-wifi-teather? I was always unclear about that

Well I have been using mytouch 4g and were using the original tether option and now I'm using cm7.never have had any problems.
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witeboy07 said:
Well I have been using mytouch 4g and were using the original tether option and now I'm using cm7.never have had any problems.
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Well for lite usage you won't have problem. But if you are using bandwidth excessively they will notice it and based on using DPI/SPI techniques they can determine which service and protocol is being used. They would never want people to use free bandwidth when they can get people to pay money for same exact thing. Talk about milking the cow for all its worth lol.

Before the mytouch I had a hd7 and before that the first 4g I had was the g2..download were massive and big..never got caught...I was always using the stock T-Mobile tether option..I guess cus I'm on an old unlimited android web plan...
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Yes I did milk it, downloading the os for the iphone probably did it, will wait till cycle is over and do basic tethering again. Im going to my iphone and switch back to see if that works as well.

keepitfashion said:
T-m0 said that?...
ok one are you using hotspots...if so stop im sure thats how they are monitoring your data...
try one of these
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
i personally use
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list?can=2&q=Stable
try one of these it should help
otherwise call t-m0 and tell em #&***& 2^^ with a *!!!! !#*(& in your !(*&$*( so they$&!!!
and they understand fine
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tried the other iphone and switch back , no luck . Im on cm7, and have been for awhile, tethered for over a year and now its being stopped. What are the links to and which one do I need for the mytouch? As for carrier its a local one , cbw,

Just got the text. Now down to edge less speeds
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paczek said:
Just got the text. Now down to edge less speeds
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Edge has a speed? What? Oh yea, Slow . I can't do anything on edge other than check email
osugsxr said:
tried the other iphone and switch back , no luck . Im on cm7, and have been for awhile, tethered for over a year and now its being stopped. What are the links to and which one do I need for the mytouch? As for carrier its a local one , cbw,
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I downloaded 2.07 and it seems to work. Temp-Rooted.

hkbladelawhk said:
Edge has a speed? What? Oh yea, Slow . I can't do anything on edge other than check email
I downloaded 2.07 and it seems to work. Temp-Rooted.
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Yes I do use the tethering hotpsot often for internet at home. I downloaded the app you recommend, will test it out for awhile to see if itll make a difference and still allow me to tether.

I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
Update-June 1: If you have a Android data package Tethering is FREE.
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RootUserDWR said:
I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
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I'm not with tmobile, I have been using android phones for over a year plus, starting with the nexus one. I have always been tethering and kept my data around 5-6gbs per month. Last month I hit the 11 or 12gb mark, and within the first week of the new month I was already up to 3.5gbs. Mainly from downloading the Iphone OS, and other tools I needed.
Over the past year, I never once was charged for tethering nor was I warned about it. You shouldn't need to worry about tethering with tmobile, if you hit the 5gb of data they will cut your speeds. I download the tethering app from the first page of this post, and it seems to be working fine as of now.

RootUserDWR said:
I'm having conflicting information put my way about tethering. Is T-Mobile charging for using the WiFi Tether feature in froyo, or are they charging for the Wired Tether feature.
I can't even get a straight answer from store reps or customer service. It's like they don't even know themselves.
Trying to basically find out if I need to go back to using barnacle.
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Yea. I've wondered this as well. I wonder at what point they charge us for tethering and how they prove it. Staying around that 5gb per month.
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No more tethering on T-Mobile

I'm using the latest cm7 nightly and whenever I tether either over wifi or through USB on my x64 windows 7 machine, the internet dies after a couple minutes. Is anyone else having this issue?
I thought it might be an issue with the nightly build so I switched back to the stock rom and the internet tethering behaved exactly the same way. I also tried tethering to my laptop which is 32-bit windows 7. Because it didn't work on my laptop either, I think its either a hardware issue with my phone or T-Mobile is blocking the tether now.
I've also noticed that voip calling with the gingerbread sip client only works on wifi. I suspect that T-Mobile is starting to enforce some of their policies finally :/
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I wi-fi tethered to my Nook Color last night for a about 30mins and didn't have a problem at all.

T-mobile terms of service prohibits you to tether. Most people don't realize it but they can mess wit ur connection as they please if they find u using ur device in way that conflict with every user receiving equal service. Do u tether a lot and if u do way kind of activities do u do

illthrill said:
T-mobile terms of service prohibits you to tether. Most people don't realize it but they can mess wit ur connection as they please if they find u using ur device in way that conflict with every user receiving equal service. Do u tether a lot and if u do way kind of activities do u do
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T-Mobile does say it's against their TOS.
Bottom line is my data is mine. regardless of what device i use it on.
Now i will say that i only tether to other Android devices (IE Tablets), but still....

Capped?
Sounds like you're being capped :/ T-mobile will cap your data if you're using too much of it.. I've heard this many times.. they cap after 5gb of data, or maybe its 10gb? I'm not really sure but that sounds like what's happening to you. Usually it will disconnect or kick you to EDGE to slow you down.. Sucksss
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I have a HTC Sensation and used to have a LG G2x and both of them came with usb tethering and Wifi hotspot out of the box. I think your hitting the 5gb cap.

Not really. It may be that he hitting his cap but my friend just got tmobile and he can't tether either. I tried it out and it didn't work. I could connect but the internet wouldn't work and I know for a fact he didn't hit his cap. I just tried it and my tether works and I dont officially pay for it. I'm running royal panache. Hopefully they won't start enforcing this...
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I know I'm not at my cap... I only used about 2/5 gb so far. And the 4g will work on my phone even after my tethering stops working.
I noticed that while tethering that Google Chrome says "resolving proxy" in the status bar. The connection works really well within the first minute of tethering and then gets slower and slower until it dies completely.
I have x86 and x64 windows 7 machines that both show the same symptoms when tethering. But when I boot into my x64 Ubuntu desktop the tether works indefinitely. I suppose that T-Mobile detects how windows handles its network and somehow disables the tether through proxys.
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neidlinger said:
T-Mobile does say it's against their TOS.
Bottom line is my data is mine. regardless of what device i use it on.
Now i will say that i only tether to other Android devices (IE Tablets), but still....
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I can still tether too, but I don't use it to often though, only when I need to get something important while i'm out. But I've been tethering since I had my G1 and when I had my g1 i would tether my ps3 to to lighten the load on my wifi router. I dont do that anymore but I still like tether since I do pay around 30bux for 5GB unl, I want to make use of what i pay for. But i end up using around 2GBs per month anyway.

I don't tether much at all. I only have been browsing the internet with the tether because my cable DSL has been out for a week. But that's another story
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I tethered last weekend for about 27hours. No problems.

Okay it's working fine now... maybe T-Mobile is beta testing some filters they plan to use in the future?
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Beta testing filters? Lmfao....come on dude...common sense check...he or she is using nightlies...THINGS WILL BE BROKE. Or it could be a hardware issue...either way I have no issues with tethering at all. Oh any rom.
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I have had to tether a few times with my laptop and had no issues, I don't do it often either though but I've yet to recieve a notice stating other wise. I would think that since they provide network service by means of usb network cards it would depend on the amount of data used in a yearly quater which would force anyone to upgrade their service for obvious reasons. My brother travels on business alot and he had to switch service for the same reason, not because he was doing anything wrong but because there was a better service provided for that specific use. If your on a laptop all day get a network card other wise tethwring should be for simple tasks ans periodic use only.

Sorry, Newbie to tethering, So when you hit the 5gb cap tmobile will shut off/throttle the data services?
Does that apply even if i have the Old school Even More plan with unlimited data? I could understand how new or plan changes where the option for fully unlimited is not available but not so much for old school plans.
I also realize post merger I may be out of luck but one can hope.

It's still unlimited, the new plan starts throttling at 2GB instead of 5GB. You still have data, just at edge speeds.

thenotoriouspie said:
My God you're literally stupid. Data for your phone. Not for your laptop but your phone. Go die in a fire please.
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are you ignorant and just cannot read. I'm sure you're just trolling hoping to get a troololololol our of someone. but i never mentioned LapTops.

cfnerd said:
Sorry, Newbie to tethering, So when you hit the 5gb cap tmobile will shut off/throttle the data services?
Does that apply even if i have the Old school Even More plan with unlimited data? I could understand how new or plan changes where the option for fully unlimited is not available but not so much for old school plans.
I also realize post merger I may be out of luck but one can hope.
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You're plan is 5Gb of data. period. after that the brakes are slammed on .

cfnerd said:
Sorry, Newbie to tethering, So when you hit the 5gb cap tmobile will shut off/throttle the data services?
Does that apply even if i have the Old school Even More plan with unlimited data? I could understand how new or plan changes where the option for fully unlimited is not available but not so much for old school plans.
I also realize post merger I may be out of luck but one can hope.
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He's right, if your using more than that you should be on another plan, 5gbs is alot for a phone no matter how you cut it, personally I can blow threw 5 in a day easily depending on what I'm up to obviously but anything over that should be on a USB wireless network card.
Example:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/?shape=lcards

ive been capped a few times and got a text message from t-mobile saying if i tethered any more that i would be charged. they have a monthly fee for tethering and hot spotting. its something insane like 25 bux a month. thats only happened once though and ive tethered and h spotted since with no problems. its accumulative i assume and you have to switch back and forth from each style of web connecting. try it and see if it helps at all.

[Q] Im rooted so can I tether for free?

And if I tether does the data go against my data plan?

Yes... All the data still need to come from your provider.

Yes and be careful though. U could use up all your **** and then get hit with the throttle
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You can tether for free on a stock sensation if you are on t-mobile.

I think why the one guy meant by free is that you don't have to pay for a tether plan. Like with T-Mobile it is 15 a month for tethering. But if you are rooted it is free to WiFi tether. Like barnacle WiFi tether is a free app that allows you to use you data connection to create a free ad-hoc WiFi connection to tether. But it does still go against your data and once you hit your limit you will be throttled.
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Roid much?
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ImHuge07 said:
Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face. Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
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This has to be one of the weirdest responses I've read here in a while.

Finland_2_Cupertino said:
That's got to be the dumbest question I've seen today. there is not a data fairy that just gives you free bandwidth. Sorry had to bash a little.
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^^ And he probably wonders why he still has 0 "Thanks"

RaDeN305 said:
This has to be one of the weirdest responses I've read here in a while.
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It was the weirdest one I ever read...
Back on topic: if you want to USB tether is there a way to do this without having the $15 a month tethering plan?

I'm on tmobile. And I only have the 2gb data plan. No tethering plan and I can still tether using the built in feature. I haven't gotten charged and I haven't gotten any notice saying it'll be added to my plan.
In fact, I don't think I've ever seen that plan on a tmobile store pamphlet
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Lte hotspot hack?

Coming from the epic 4g touch where there was hotspot hacks all over. Is there no hack for the skyrocket? With lte up I'd expect a lot of people would be working on it. With 50 megs down it would be epic
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Root your phone and install a custom ROM. Most ROMS for the SR have the hotspot hack preinstalled.

djrbx said:
Root your phone and install a custom ROM. Most ROMS for the SR have the hotspot hack preinstalled.
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I'm rooted with stock rom right now, I read through the roms and I didnt see hotspot listed on any of them. I guess I'll read again.

jermzz said:
Coming from the epic 4g touch where there was hotspot hacks all over. Is there no hack for the skyrocket? With lte up I'd expect a lot of people would be working on it. With 50 megs down it would be epic
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Read the freeze list and it will be blatantly obvious.

Use titanium back up app to freeze tethering manager and you can use the hot spot feature
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stepheng said:
Use titanium back up app to freeze tethering manager and you can use the hot spot feature
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^^this
And then download widget to one-click turn on hot-spot.
Because it takes like 4 clicks/menus to turn it on normally.

By enabling the above hotspot how does/can AT&T verify I'm tethering? I'm on the unlimited (throttled) plan and really don't want to be switched.

Freezing the manager and using the widget worked perfectly. Thanks guys. With 40 MB
down I have to make use of this speed somehow
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kronikwisdom said:
By enabling the above hotspot how does/can AT&T verify I'm tethering? I'm on the unlimited (throttled) plan and really don't want to be switched.
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Yes, they can, I got the nasty gram recently (actually the second one).
I was honest and told them I was tethering a laptop, I suspect that honesty is what got them to put me back on my unlimited.
We are not exactly sure how they are detecting tethering, there are a number of ways (using the TTL for example, it decreases as it passes each network device on the path to the destination, ATT expect a certain TTL value when it comes from a phone, when it comes from a tethered device, that value will be 1 less). Other methods involved deep packet inspection, where you can identify that network address translation is taking place.
Also, apparently the iphone tags tethered packets or something.
To get around this, run openvpn (you will need a vpn server somewhere as well), and tunnel all your traffic through teh VPN server... The only thing ATT will ever see is an encrypted tunnel between your phone and the vpn server and nothing else.
There is alot more to it, but it works.

I have not gotten one of these letters/texts/email and I teather ALL the time and stream
but i have NEVER been over 3gigs of data on my 2 gig plan. so its not just simply TETHERING......i think they are looking for data usage.

the2rrell said:
I have not gotten one of these letters/texts/email and I teather ALL the time and stream
but i have NEVER been over 3gigs of data on my 2 gig plan. so its not just simply TETHERING......i think they are looking for data usage.
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Your on a tiered plan, they would encourage you using data, because then they get money from you.
They watch unlimited data users like a hawk, but that's why I use a VPN to encrypt my data, have fun figuring out what I'm doing.

Longcat14 said:
Your on a tiered plan, they would encourage you using data, because then they get money from you.
They watch unlimited data users like a hawk, but that's why I use a VPN to encrypt my data, have fun figuring out what I'm doing.
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can you tell how u use vpn?

WiFi Tethering & PS3

Ok so ive searched countless threads trying to solve my problem but i cant seem to find any solutions. Im trying to wifi tether my g2x to my ps3 (not using windows) however i know that the ps3 cant pick up ad-hoc networks. Ive read that the wifi tether needs to be in an infrastructure mode or something like this. Ive tried using the wifi tether app v3.1 beta 11 and it works to wifi tether to my laptop and ipod touch but not to my ps3. Was anyone else able to accomplish what i am trying to do?
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Rom: CM9 ics beta
Kernel: faux123's ics beta kernel 0.49
thanks

So I'm guessing no one with a g2x has tried this???
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Did you try the built-in wifi tether?
It will work for cm7. Don't know about cm9.

theres a built in wifi tether in cm9?

BlazinHitman said:
theres a built in wifi tether in cm9?
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Yes, if you can't find it then you aren't looking hard enough. I'm actually USB tethered right now and that's in the same place (as usual) as WiFi tethering.

I've got a question, does T-Mo charge for me using the phone's build in tethering ability? I know that 3rd party apps have found ways around it if they do because I've been using a 3rd party app for tethering and have gotten no complaints from T-Mo, using the built in one would be much nicer though.

As far as I know, regardless of plan, no, they don't. I'm currently on a contracted 2GB/month plan and I don't get charged, that's one of the ways they get away with the song and dance of "unlimited" data.
Edit: for the sake of explanation, I don't know about Pay as You Go plans, so hence the "as far as I know"

Волк said:
As far as I know, regardless of plan, no, they don't. I'm currently on a contracted 2GB/month plan and I don't get charged, that's one of the ways they get away with the song and dance of "unlimited" data.
Edit: for the sake of explanation, I don't know about Pay as You Go plans, so hence the "as far as I know"
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Sweet I'm on the same plan.

Tethering uses your regular data. No they won't/can't charge extra for you to use the data you paid for.
The tethering counts towards your "limit" so be cautious.
I really do wish some people would look around and try things on their phone before asking questions.
Even a simple "cm7 wifi tether" in Google would come up with results...

I played 3 CALL Of duty's maps like this!!!
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buru898 said:
Tethering uses your regular data. No they won't/can't charge extra for you to use the data you paid for.
The tethering counts towards your "limit" so be cautious.
I really do wish some people would look around and try things on their phone before asking questions.
Even a simple "cm7 wifi tether" in Google would come up with results...
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What that gave me was the Wifi Tether app I was using, I was afraid that even from using the phones wifi tether that T-Mo would detect it and charge me as other companies charge for tethering.
I would assume hotspot is the same?

IRASadPanda said:
What that gave me was the Wifi Tether app I was using, I was afraid that even from using the phones wifi tether that T-Mo would detect it and charge me as other companies charge for tethering.
I would assume hotspot is the same?
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Weird.. well cm7 comes with it's own wifi tethering. It's in wireless settings. Give it a try, should work. Never tried on cm9 and not running it either.
T-Mobile doesn't do that. They might ask you to pay for it but it doesn't apply because cm7 has it built in. I think T-Mobile has an app you download for wifi tethering?

buru898 said:
Weird.. well cm7 comes with it's own wifi tethering. It's in wireless settings. Give it a try, should work. Never tried on cm9 and not running it either.
T-Mobile doesn't do that. They might ask you to pay for it but it doesn't apply because cm7 has it built in. I think T-Mobile has an app you download for wifi tethering?
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I figured it out, it comes on the phone stock and if you use it with the stock ROM t-mo has it set up to use their tethering APN which they make you pay for, CM roms and other Wifi Tethering apps use your default Data apn, thus T-mo only.detects it as data usage.
It's what I used to do when I had an iPhone w/ AT&T, just changed the tethering APN to the data APN and BAM undetectable.
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IRASadPanda said:
I figured it out, it comes on the phone stock and if you use it with the stock ROM t-mo has it set up to use their tethering APN which they make you pay for, CM roms and other Wifi Tethering apps use your default Data apn, thus T-mo only.detects it as data usage.
It's what I used to do when I had an iPhone w/ AT&T, just changed the tethering APN to the data APN and BAM undetectable.
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How did you change the tether apn settings?

Try foxfi, barnacle def won't work

feverlovesbeavers said:
Try foxfi, barnacle def won't work
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When I use foxfi it brings up the same exact symbol in the notification bar as when I turn on the wifi hotspot in the phone settings. Doesn't that mean t-mobile can see that you are tethering? I just want to do it so they won't make me buy a tether plan.