How does the iPhone Save Old SMS Messages? - General Questions and Answers

Okay I was wondering how the iPhone handles old text messages. Like, after a certain amount of texts, usually 200+, Android automatically starts deleting them to save space on the phone. How the iPhone do this? Does it store every text message on the phone or what because I had a friend who was able to scroll back pretty far in his conversations and I'm not exactly sure if they were being retrieved from a server or if they were stored on his phone? I am asking because I wanted to know if the 8gb iPhone 4 would get all its space taken since I usually text 2000-3000 messages per month.
Any help would be appreciated, Thanks.

YoungBloodz said:
Okay I was wondering how the iPhone handles old text messages. Like, after a certain amount of texts, usually 200+, Android automatically starts deleting them to save space on the phone. How the iPhone do this? Does it store every text message on the phone or what because I had a friend who was able to scroll back pretty far in his conversations and I'm not exactly sure if they were being retrieved from a server or if they were stored on his phone? I am asking because I wanted to know if the 8gb iPhone 4 would get all its space taken since I usually text 2000-3000 messages per month.
Any help would be appreciated, Thanks.
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The iPhone stores SMS messages on the phone's internal flash memory. Unless you text a lot... to the tune of 15 million text messages you won't run out of memory. Old text threads can be deleted. I'm not sure on this, but I'm somewhat certain there's an option to delete messages past a certain # in threads somewhere in the settings. It's been a while since I held an iPhone in my hand.

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Storage concerns regarding SMS - thousands of them

I'm really interested in getting one of these phones, I currently have a Blue Angel which has about 15000 sms messages on it. I'd like to transfer these onto the device so I have a copy of my texting past (thoughts on the possibility of this would be gratefully recieved). I also get a good 2000 texts or so a month - Is this going to be an issue on this phone? Can it handle the storage of so many texts? Is there anyway to change the settings to allow the storage of the messages on the miniSD card?
Anyone know the answers to any of these questions?
Thanks in advance
You get around 70 texts a day?! :shock:
Carumba.
Maybe some kind of teleprinter would be a better option than a new phone? :lol:
Give or take, most of my texts are 2 or 3 texts long - i.e. well over the 160 limit hence the amount.
I think that will probably change a bit now i have a smaller screen and don't have a qwerty keyboard - I get into the mindset i'm sending emails.
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Just adding now that i've just read the review on mobiletechreview (http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/imate_sp5m.htm) and noticed it says that you can only send texts up to 640characters (4 texts) this would also be a problem, any ideas if this can be modified with a registry edit or something?

Possible for auto text delete app kinda like mem killer

I would be willing to start a bounty for a auto text delete app... like delete texts for each person after 100 texts... is this possible?
Its not auto, but try SMS Quick delete
No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
I agree with this post. I think getting sms quick delete to do a nightly scheduled delete would be amazing.
ebartolon said:
No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
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I think youre missing the point.
I agree, btw something like this would be great. Either running to deleted messages by scheduled task and or delete message based on a specified count.
ebartolon said:
No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
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It's not that hard to mail a letter via postal service, but I'd still rather email.
I think it's a great idea, you could adjust it to purge anything over x number of messages or older than x number of days.
I'd love to see this happen.
OP I think you may have a better chance by emailing SMS Quick Delete because they already have the app started...
I haven't looked into what APIs the SDK offers for dealing with text messages, but just thinking this through real quick, this shouldn't be a hard app to write.
When I get a text, it appears in both the stock app and in Handcent. This indicates that the messages are stored in a central location. The existence of Handcent and Chomp also make it clear that third party apps can access and manipulate this storage.
Performing tasks on a schedule is easy to code.
What sort of features would people like to see in this? Delete by age? Delete by count? Exempt certain contacts from having their messages deleted? etc...
I've been looking for an idea for a simple app to write to get more familiar with coding for the Android environment. If there's interest in something like this, it seems like as good a project as any to practice with.
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I haven't looked into what APIs the SDK offers for dealing with text messages, but just thinking this through real quick, this shouldn't be a hard app to write.
When I get a text, it appears in both the stock app and in Handcent. This indicates that the messages are stored in a central location. The existence of Handcent and Chomp also make it clear that third party apps can access and manipulate this storage.
Performing tasks on a schedule is easy to code.
What sort of features would people like to see in this? Delete by age? Delete by count? Exempt certain contacts from having their messages deleted? etc...
I've been looking for an idea for a simple app to write to get more familiar with coding for the Android environment. If there's interest in something like this, it seems like as good a project as any to practice with.
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Issue is
1. You want to delete it when no one is sending you messages as to delete one you missed which would make you think that scheduled at night is best but...
2. Either count or time (i.e. middle of the night schedule) can screw you up if you get a message and the app then deletes it before you are able to check your messages...
I think it could be anything if you could prevent the deletion of new texts then I guess it wouldn't matter as much.
pipskicks said:
Issue is
1. You want to delete it when no one is sending you messages as to delete one you missed which would make you think that scheduled at night is best but...
2. Either count or time (i.e. middle of the night schedule) can screw you up if you get a message and the app then deletes it before you are able to check your messages...
I think it could be anything if you could prevent the deletion of new texts then I guess it wouldn't matter as much.
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I see what you're saying, but if it's properly designed, neither one should really be an issue. If, for example, it's set to auto-delete anything over 30 days old, well, frankly if it's been sitting on your phone for 30 days and you haven't read it yet, then either it wasn't important, or you've been sitting in jail and likely have more important things to worry about.
Same with going by number of messages, you'd want the threshold set at a level where there's not really much chance of you not getting to it before it gets deleted.
Ideally, these thresholds would be user configurable. For me, deleting anything over 100 texts would easily retain a month's worth, but for my daughter, it would be blasting stuff that was only a few hours old. (I've honest to god seen this girl sleep with her phone in her hands, thumbs never leaving typing position....)
That said, it would definitely be a good idea to never, ever delete unread messages. Or, at least have separate criteria for unread messages.
isn't this a feature that's included in non-Sense messages app??? I much prefer that version, but I don't know how to replace the sense version with that one (if possible)
I think having delete by both age and number would be best... for example, if it could delete any message that is more than say 5 days old, up to the point where there is <10 messages left in the thread then stop deleting from that thread
and if you could adjust the two variables...
and:
adjust which persons messages get deleted...maybe even make it so that you could adjust the two variables individually depending on the person?
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maybe even make it so that you could adjust the two variables individually depending on the person?
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Ultimately, that's the idea. Let each user specify their own criteria.
To be honest, if I decide to take a crack at this, my initial "proof of concept" version would probably just have a couple criteria hardcoded in, and then I would add configurability in increments.
The actual "guts" of this program should be crazy simple to code, but being new to Android, I'm still getting used to designing UIs on the platform, so that would be the portion that slows me down (and also the part that I'm looking to get some practice with...).
the file for storing texts is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
and no that's not a typo, there is a data folder within the data folder
also, by the way, I tried messing with it once to restore some old texts from a previous rom, and kept force closing my handcent and the stock app until I just deleted the file and let it recreate itself
Yeah honestly i am shocked that no one has done this. My friend and i have had so many texts our phone slows way down. And then when we try to delete txts of the contact(s) with the largest amount of texts the phone will lock up for along time or untill we pull the battery. After the phone lock up the texts are still there. i would be happy if all my contacts where limited to 100 texts. this issue normally happens around the 1000 mark (for a single contact) from what i have noticed.
Also this has happend on sevral roms that i have used so its def not a rom issue
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the file for storing texts is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
and no that's not a typo, there is a data folder within the data folder
also, by the way, I tried messing with it once to restore some old texts from a previous rom, and kept force closing my handcent and the stock app until I just deleted the file and let it recreate itself
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Yeah, that's a database file. Probably not a great idea to edit it directly, you would want to make changes through the sqlite interface....
any solutions?

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Why do you have 8,000 texts on your phone? Typically any SMS app you download will automagicly delete any texts once you collect a certain amount.
I like to keep all my messages so I can know what has been said and because there are some important texts in there, and I just double checked and couldn't find any settings like that in there, but I know it's disabled on my stock app and I had conversations ranging from about 5000 to 2 or 3 texts, but thanks for the suggestion!
I did, however, find a thing saying that I had sent 1900 messages in total, or thereabouts, which is a lot more than I sent since the messages went missing, a lot less than I have sent since I got the phone. Perhaps it is from when I started using Go SMS, but is it indicative of the messages still being on the phone somewhere?
Yes it is since you got Go sms because the stock messanging app doesn't count how many was sent. And no that doesn't mean that they are on your phone. It is simply a built in counter allowing you to keep track of your messages in case you don't have an unlimited messaging plan. Try downloading a file explorer and searching for your texts, that should all be backlogged onto your phone somewhere. Chances are though that the messages where deleted. Linux will overwrite information in order to better utilize your memory space. I recommend to back up any messages, or lock the ones you want kept to avoid this in the future.
Thanks very much, I'll do that
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