I would be willing to start a bounty for a auto text delete app... like delete texts for each person after 100 texts... is this possible?
Its not auto, but try SMS Quick delete
No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
I agree with this post. I think getting sms quick delete to do a nightly scheduled delete would be amazing.
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No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
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I think youre missing the point.
I agree, btw something like this would be great. Either running to deleted messages by scheduled task and or delete message based on a specified count.
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No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
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It's not that hard to mail a letter via postal service, but I'd still rather email.
I think it's a great idea, you could adjust it to purge anything over x number of messages or older than x number of days.
I'd love to see this happen.
OP I think you may have a better chance by emailing SMS Quick Delete because they already have the app started...
I haven't looked into what APIs the SDK offers for dealing with text messages, but just thinking this through real quick, this shouldn't be a hard app to write.
When I get a text, it appears in both the stock app and in Handcent. This indicates that the messages are stored in a central location. The existence of Handcent and Chomp also make it clear that third party apps can access and manipulate this storage.
Performing tasks on a schedule is easy to code.
What sort of features would people like to see in this? Delete by age? Delete by count? Exempt certain contacts from having their messages deleted? etc...
I've been looking for an idea for a simple app to write to get more familiar with coding for the Android environment. If there's interest in something like this, it seems like as good a project as any to practice with.
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I haven't looked into what APIs the SDK offers for dealing with text messages, but just thinking this through real quick, this shouldn't be a hard app to write.
When I get a text, it appears in both the stock app and in Handcent. This indicates that the messages are stored in a central location. The existence of Handcent and Chomp also make it clear that third party apps can access and manipulate this storage.
Performing tasks on a schedule is easy to code.
What sort of features would people like to see in this? Delete by age? Delete by count? Exempt certain contacts from having their messages deleted? etc...
I've been looking for an idea for a simple app to write to get more familiar with coding for the Android environment. If there's interest in something like this, it seems like as good a project as any to practice with.
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Issue is
1. You want to delete it when no one is sending you messages as to delete one you missed which would make you think that scheduled at night is best but...
2. Either count or time (i.e. middle of the night schedule) can screw you up if you get a message and the app then deletes it before you are able to check your messages...
I think it could be anything if you could prevent the deletion of new texts then I guess it wouldn't matter as much.
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Issue is
1. You want to delete it when no one is sending you messages as to delete one you missed which would make you think that scheduled at night is best but...
2. Either count or time (i.e. middle of the night schedule) can screw you up if you get a message and the app then deletes it before you are able to check your messages...
I think it could be anything if you could prevent the deletion of new texts then I guess it wouldn't matter as much.
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I see what you're saying, but if it's properly designed, neither one should really be an issue. If, for example, it's set to auto-delete anything over 30 days old, well, frankly if it's been sitting on your phone for 30 days and you haven't read it yet, then either it wasn't important, or you've been sitting in jail and likely have more important things to worry about.
Same with going by number of messages, you'd want the threshold set at a level where there's not really much chance of you not getting to it before it gets deleted.
Ideally, these thresholds would be user configurable. For me, deleting anything over 100 texts would easily retain a month's worth, but for my daughter, it would be blasting stuff that was only a few hours old. (I've honest to god seen this girl sleep with her phone in her hands, thumbs never leaving typing position....)
That said, it would definitely be a good idea to never, ever delete unread messages. Or, at least have separate criteria for unread messages.
isn't this a feature that's included in non-Sense messages app??? I much prefer that version, but I don't know how to replace the sense version with that one (if possible)
I think having delete by both age and number would be best... for example, if it could delete any message that is more than say 5 days old, up to the point where there is <10 messages left in the thread then stop deleting from that thread
and if you could adjust the two variables...
and:
adjust which persons messages get deleted...maybe even make it so that you could adjust the two variables individually depending on the person?
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maybe even make it so that you could adjust the two variables individually depending on the person?
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Ultimately, that's the idea. Let each user specify their own criteria.
To be honest, if I decide to take a crack at this, my initial "proof of concept" version would probably just have a couple criteria hardcoded in, and then I would add configurability in increments.
The actual "guts" of this program should be crazy simple to code, but being new to Android, I'm still getting used to designing UIs on the platform, so that would be the portion that slows me down (and also the part that I'm looking to get some practice with...).
the file for storing texts is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
and no that's not a typo, there is a data folder within the data folder
also, by the way, I tried messing with it once to restore some old texts from a previous rom, and kept force closing my handcent and the stock app until I just deleted the file and let it recreate itself
Yeah honestly i am shocked that no one has done this. My friend and i have had so many texts our phone slows way down. And then when we try to delete txts of the contact(s) with the largest amount of texts the phone will lock up for along time or untill we pull the battery. After the phone lock up the texts are still there. i would be happy if all my contacts where limited to 100 texts. this issue normally happens around the 1000 mark (for a single contact) from what i have noticed.
Also this has happend on sevral roms that i have used so its def not a rom issue
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the file for storing texts is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
and no that's not a typo, there is a data folder within the data folder
also, by the way, I tried messing with it once to restore some old texts from a previous rom, and kept force closing my handcent and the stock app until I just deleted the file and let it recreate itself
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Yeah, that's a database file. Probably not a great idea to edit it directly, you would want to make changes through the sqlite interface....
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Ive seen MS chose to combine IM and SMS and to me this looks really messy.
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
Certainly if somebody just left his/her pc on or IM on accidently....
They should have added facebook private messaging as well and IM/SMS seperated like it was and just added a chat pivot in the messaging hub.
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
Its kind of short sighted implementation, the idea is good but the reality will be very annoying the way it works now.
you will get a ton of sms like notifications for every IM which can be annoying since on a chat conversation people send much more messages per minute than trough sms. Having to toggle online offline all the time will be a pita
am i the only one who thinks this will be garbage? Instead they should have allowed third party apps like whatsapp to use this on user permission. I hope I can switch off the live messenger. Or just revert back to the original sms screen
I like the idea to have an overview of my messages regardlessly whether they come via SMS, Windows Live or Facebook. Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming. But I can imagine Microsoft changes the way the tile works. So it still shows the number of SMS, but in addition to that shows an icon or something when you recieve a chat message from Facebook or Windows Live.
In my opinion.. the best feauture ever, of every OS. Loved that!
I love it as well, and think its nice not to have to go to 4 different places for my facebook, text, wlm & (eventually skype).
While I hope they either have a toggle setting for separate 'rows', or add it soon after Mango for those who really don't like it, I honestly doubt they want to mess it up by having too many places for messages. It fits in pretty perfectly with their vision for the overall UI design imo.
For me,M$ thread is not a new idea,it just copying the messaging app in the HP webos...however HP webos messaging is better,they can download apps that support HP connect and integrate into the messaging app(so,this means they can have more than 1 im clients in 1 messaging app).
Feel so sorry to HP webos,always being copied by others,even the UI design of playbook has been copied
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First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
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Threading will be the beginning of the end for SMS IMNSHO. Most people still use SMS because it's what they know and are used to.
My wife is a great example, she keeps sending me SMSes while I'm out because that's what she's used to. Even though I've had email (and to some extent IM) on my phones since forever. With a "messaging hub" it takes all the guesswork out of the equation - she'll write the message as she normally does and the phone will decide whether it should deliver via FB, Messenger, Skype or SMS.
Now, if you don't want to continue the conversation if the user has moved to a different device you don't have to. The phone will tell you how the message was sent as well as what services the recipient is currently logged on to.
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to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
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This just proves my point - you're used to SMS. And again, you can choose whether to send as SMS or IM.
Personally I find this feature great. Two things should be done to make it even better though;
1. Implement a industry-wide protocol so it doesn't matter if you're on a crackberry, iphone or windows phone. Sure, Skype and Messenger goes a long way towards achieving this but there are still people who use smaller IM services only.
2. Allow third-party apps to hook in to the messaging hub - there's a few apps out there today that are not chat apps as such but still implement messaging. Being able to receive (and reply to) these messages from the same place would be great. It would also make it easier for other IM services to integrate with the OS.
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Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming.
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But why? Are you less likely to want to read a message coming in thru Messenger than one delivered via SMS? I for one don't care how my messages are delivered, I just want to be notified. It's a bit like having three post boxes outside your house - one for deliveries by DHL only, another for Deutsche Post and a third for everyone else - i.e. pointless
I really like this new feature as well. I am confident that any replies you send to someone will use the same service they used to "text" you, unless you choose to change it. People on non-WP7 phones won't suddenly need to be jumping all over the place.
On the other hand, when other people send you messages from multiple sources (SMS, FB, WLM, etc), you will be able to get all of the messages in one convenient place. I like that.
I want to know why some Apps read my SMS...
Downloaded "Go Keyboard" from the market and I think it is a nice App. But when I read the (German) comments, some people complaint about that this App can read your SMS.
What do you think?
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If the keyboard should be smart it needs to learn from your typing. One way is to read your SMS/texts or emails.
So you think this is important for the app to work properly and can be neglected?
Maybe sounds like a stupid question but I am still an Android beginner.
Anyway there is nothing important in my messages that I should worry about...
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So you think this is important for the app to work properly and can be neglected?
Maybe sounds like a stupid question but I am still an Android beginner.
Anyway there is nothing important in my messages that I should worry about...
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As nothing is save on the internet... it's up to you. The app isn't unknown and widely spread/used, I'd not worry about giving the requested permission.
Other apps however... different story. Rethink your decision everytime an app requests permissions.
If the app works w/o that specific permission is something I don't know. There's an app that can restrict specific permissions, requires root and I sadly don't remember the name right now.
Of course an app can work without certain permissions. But those permission make it more powerful and add functions. If you chopped off your arms, you couldn't entertain someone with juggling could you ?
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Of course an app can work without certain permissions. But those permission make it more powerful and add functions. If you chopped off your arms, you couldn't entertain someone with juggling could you ?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lleKvepxp5E
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I wondered the same thing! I recently switched to KelLMSKing MIUI Mod and now when I get an SMS, I get two notifications. One is Car Locator wants to read my SMS. It is a GPS App where I can save my car's position in a parking lot and find it easily again. I have no idea why it would want to intercept my SMS messages, so I Deny it.. I looked it up and apparently in some countries, you can pay for parking by text message, and receive reminders that time is running out. That's a feature I'll never use, so I'll just tell it to remember to always Deny that request. The other notification is from Touchdown, which gets my Exchange Server emails for work.. I'm not sure what SMS it would be looking for, so I'll deny them, too
As for the keyboard, I have no idea why it would want to read incoming messages or how that would help it to learn your style.
I think it's more of a perusal of the messages for commonly typed words so that it knows the best words to recommend and predict. Like a scan, to add your speech to the dictionary.
I don't believe any developer is sitting up at night reading my texts. If he is, he should hit me back and help me out with some of my problems. <_<
What is Facebook's excuse then?
edit SMS or MMS
Allows application to write to SMS messages stored on your device or SIM card. Malicious applications may delete your messages.
receive SMS
Allows application to receive and process SMS messages. Malicious applications may monitor your messages or delete them without showing them to you.
read SMS or MMS
Allows application to read SMS messages stored on your device or SIM card. Malicious applications may read your confidential messages.
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praveenmarkandu said:
What is Facebook's excuse then?
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Facebook just blatently wants info to target you for advertising... but because theyre so big most people don't care
Facebook needs that permission to verify your account. Afair there's an option to add your mobile# to your fb account.
An application in the market that has been around awhile should be fine. Google will remove malicious software as soon as they know about it. It is new apps asking these permissions that I would be weary of. I use the Go keyboard myself and love it with royal purple neon theme.
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Okay I was wondering how the iPhone handles old text messages. Like, after a certain amount of texts, usually 200+, Android automatically starts deleting them to save space on the phone. How the iPhone do this? Does it store every text message on the phone or what because I had a friend who was able to scroll back pretty far in his conversations and I'm not exactly sure if they were being retrieved from a server or if they were stored on his phone? I am asking because I wanted to know if the 8gb iPhone 4 would get all its space taken since I usually text 2000-3000 messages per month.
Any help would be appreciated, Thanks.
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Okay I was wondering how the iPhone handles old text messages. Like, after a certain amount of texts, usually 200+, Android automatically starts deleting them to save space on the phone. How the iPhone do this? Does it store every text message on the phone or what because I had a friend who was able to scroll back pretty far in his conversations and I'm not exactly sure if they were being retrieved from a server or if they were stored on his phone? I am asking because I wanted to know if the 8gb iPhone 4 would get all its space taken since I usually text 2000-3000 messages per month.
Any help would be appreciated, Thanks.
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The iPhone stores SMS messages on the phone's internal flash memory. Unless you text a lot... to the tune of 15 million text messages you won't run out of memory. Old text threads can be deleted. I'm not sure on this, but I'm somewhat certain there's an option to delete messages past a certain # in threads somewhere in the settings. It's been a while since I held an iPhone in my hand.
Hello XDA community!
First, I am uncertain if I have the correct forum for this; I was debating posting it under Android Apps but it gave the appearance of being a place to get applications that have been developed, not to request for a particular app to exist. If it needs to be moved, please let me know.
Here is the problem: I've got 20,000 text messages on my phone. This is intentional. As ridiculous as it sounds to have that many text messages, I've found it to be a life saver. In one case, I saved an address from a few months ago that enabled me to bring comfort to a friend in need. In another instance, I was able to clear a dispute between my friend and my employer. Still other cases are simply nostalgic, and I know of other people who have used SMS threads as evidence in court proceedings. There is utility in keeping as many text messages as possible at hand.
The problem is that, once this many texts are on a phone, the messaging app slows down quite noticeably. Additionally, restoring from a Titanium Backup or similar can take nearly an hour to write the database back into memory. Having the texts is wonderful, but having them resident along with more recent discussions causes undesirable consequences.
What I'm looking for is an app that will copy messages to an archive and then delete them. For example, if I have 200 messages between myself and Alan, and he texts me again, I'd like message 201 to be archived and deleted. However, if Bill and I are only at message 28, that can grow without archiving until I hit 200, at which point *it* starts getting archived. Ideally I'd like this to happen in real time, but if it happened hourly or daily I can certainly deal.
The two ways I've kinda found to do this were either to make daily backups with MyBackup Pro or similar, or make them on my computer using MyPhone Explorer. MBP is nice because it keeps it on the phone, but one of the core functions I'm looking for is to be able to browse the archive as if it were a regular set of text messages - still threaded, time-stamped, and categorized by sender - just not in the regular SMS database. With MBP, it makes the messy situation of having to restore messages until you find it, which gets very difficult after more than a few weeks. MyPhone Explorer is a better tool for this and it can be searched, but it does require my laptop to do it, which is a bit challenging as synchronization has to be performed manually.
I've tried most of the add-in applications to address this; neither Go SMS Pro nor HandCent nor Fusion nor Chomp nor Textra provide this functionality.
Yes, I'm willing to pay for an application that will allow for this, so if anyone either knows of a program that can do what I'm asking or feels like writing one, please let me know.
I appreciate your time and consideration in this matter.
Joey
I have an App Request too
An On-Screen Floating Object-Oriented Toolbar, with Back, Home, Menu, & Directional keys, + additional keys depending on active screen or current app
including a 'cycle-through elements' button then hit enter on the one you want to activate
things that can be done with your thumb from one small location.
then tap & hold contracts it into a smaller set of buttons
and you can select the number of buttons & their default positions for both the expanded state and the compacted state.
so it could be used to navigate around programs, select different elements, or used as a game controller, or keypad enhancement, or enhanced navigation etc
Am I the only one having problems transitioning to the People application for HTC? I again hate to be that guy who says, "On the Samsung", but, on the Samsung phones, I could edit the contacts to take individual ringtones AND message alerts. This does not seem to be a feature with People. People also seems to be separating out my contacts by individual phone number and email. I'm certain its a learning process for me, but if ANYONE has any help, or suggestions I'd really really appreciate it.
TIA!!!
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Am I the only one having problems transitioning to the People application for HTC? I again hate to be that guy who says, "On the Samsung", but, on the Samsung phones, I could edit the contacts to take individual ringtones AND message alerts. This does not seem to be a feature with People. People also seems to be separating out my contacts by individual phone number and email. I'm certain its a learning process for me, but if ANYONE has any help, or suggestions I'd really really appreciate it.
TIA!!!
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Sorry, I have no idea what kind of 3rd party app Samsung devices use, but I also only have the ability to assign an individual ringtone, not individual message alerts.
As far as it separating contacts by phone number and email, do you mean you have, for instance, one contact for your mom for her cell phone, and another separate contact for her email? Because that's not happening for me. If that's the case, Touchwiz may have stored contacts in an odd fashion that Google wasn't expecting, so when it pulled your contacts back down for your M8 it couldn't categorize them correctly? But that's just a wild guess. I came from a Galaxy Nexus, but before that I had a Droid X, and my contacts have been correct since day 1.
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Sorry, I have no idea what kind of 3rd party app Samsung devices use, but I also only have the ability to assign an individual ringtone, not individual message alerts.
As far as it separating contacts by phone number and email, do you mean you have, for instance, one contact for your mom for her cell phone, and another separate contact for her email? Because that's not happening for me. If that's the case, Touchwiz may have stored contacts in an odd fashion that Google wasn't expecting, so when it pulled your contacts back down for your M8 it couldn't categorize them correctly? But that's just a wild guess. I came from a Galaxy Nexus, but before that I had a Droid X, and my contacts have been correct since day 1.
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Yeah, that is exactly what I mean. and it appears to be all over the place. And this is just a personal feeling, but it doesn't feel clean. or intuitive. Not a biggie, I was just curious. I try to use stock applications, but if stock messaging won't let me assign specific message alerts, I'll just use something else.
Thanks for the reply.
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Yeah, that is exactly what I mean. and it appears to be all over the place. And this is just a personal feeling, but it doesn't feel clean. or intuitive. Not a biggie, I was just curious. I try to use stock applications, but if stock messaging won't let me assign specific message alerts, I'll just use something else.
Thanks for the reply.
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No problem, sorry I couldn't help more. I actually just went through my contacts, and though there were a lot of dupes, it's actually because I apparently had separate contacts for some people (in all the cases the names of the dupes were slightly different, or only the first name for one, then first and last for the other, etc). But I didn't see any that were obviously just separated by the HTC app. Try Go Contacts maybe? It's fairly popular I think. I don't know if it supports per-contact message alert tones though, but I haven't used it in over 2 years.
You got to go into settings within the people app (from dialer), bro. Then you can uncheck all the extra pulls you don't need, then 'link' contacts. If you check in there now, and look above your name, I bet there are some link/join suggestions waiting for you.
I know exactly what you're talking. It's the first thing I did on this phone and it was a mess. Got it all cleaned up doing what I said above.
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