Hi all, I'm using an unrooted HTC Wildfire and yesterday all of my texts just disappeared - about 8000 in total. I think it was after I recieved a text from someone. I reasoned that the messages have to still be on the phone somewhere due to the fact that data is just marked as overwritable, or am I wrong about that? Either way, I hunted through the SD card with some file recovery software (PC Inspector File Recovery, to be precise) and found a few files that may be useful - "com.gb.gosms-1.asec" in "android_secure" that's 4.09MB (about the right size for the data my messaging app was reading in the "Settings>Applications", and "40123", found in "LOST.DIR" that is 14.0MB, probably too large but the closest I could find as the other two in that directory were only a few hundred kilobytes.
I can't open any of them - I tried "40123" as .db and .xml files and the .ASEC file seems to be an encrypted Android file.
I'm looking for a few things, I guess - Where should I look to use the file recovery software to find the old SMS files? How do I open a .ASEC file, and might it be the right one? And does anyone know of any way to recover my texts? I just would quite like to recover my texts as there are some important ones on there!
Many thanks in advance, and sorry if I am repeating anything, I ran a search but couldn't find anything.
P.S., I am using GoSMS, but my stock messaging app is just as empty!
Why do you have 8,000 texts on your phone? Typically any SMS app you download will automagicly delete any texts once you collect a certain amount.
I like to keep all my messages so I can know what has been said and because there are some important texts in there, and I just double checked and couldn't find any settings like that in there, but I know it's disabled on my stock app and I had conversations ranging from about 5000 to 2 or 3 texts, but thanks for the suggestion!
I did, however, find a thing saying that I had sent 1900 messages in total, or thereabouts, which is a lot more than I sent since the messages went missing, a lot less than I have sent since I got the phone. Perhaps it is from when I started using Go SMS, but is it indicative of the messages still being on the phone somewhere?
Yes it is since you got Go sms because the stock messanging app doesn't count how many was sent. And no that doesn't mean that they are on your phone. It is simply a built in counter allowing you to keep track of your messages in case you don't have an unlimited messaging plan. Try downloading a file explorer and searching for your texts, that should all be backlogged onto your phone somewhere. Chances are though that the messages where deleted. Linux will overwrite information in order to better utilize your memory space. I recommend to back up any messages, or lock the ones you want kept to avoid this in the future.
Thanks very much, I'll do that
As per my original message, does anyone know how to open a .ASEC file?
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Hi
I have an xda 2.
I recently carried out a hard reset to clean up my xda 2.
Unfortunately when I tried restoring my back up (from active sync) there appears 2 be a problem with old sms messages.
I had created a number of sub-folders where I had moved my old messages.
I can see the old sms messages in the folder but I can not open, read or forward them. There are no problems with new sms messages.
Has anyone come acrosss this before and can you advise me on how to retrieve these please?
Thanks.
Salim
....No response...does noboby love me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I've had a look through the forums and have foubd similarish problems but nothing seems to help
This is wht I have done so far
1. Downloaded mobile vault to interrogate my back up - but this has proved futile as when I go to where I believe the sms messages are the ones I want are blank (even though I can see them in the sms folder but not expand them).
2. I downloaded Jeye Mobile companion and Jeyo Outlook extender
JMC did not help much
Jeyo Outlook Extender will let me read the SMS messages that are in my inbox (but not accessible via the XDA II). However, any stored in the other folders I have set up are not accessible (I don't seem to be able to see the folders I have set up on the XDA II).
3. I have performed more hard resets - and backups any sms in the back up (even in the inbox) suffer the same fate of not being readable (But I have now backed up mu more recent ones elsewhere).
Well I'm exhausting my options now.
Any help would be more than welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I have searched the forums but haven't had much luck - if anyone knows of a similar post that has had a reply then could they point me to it).
Any news
Has anyone ever found a way round this?
Similar problem - looking for a solution also.
I had to restore after my SPV M2000 hard reset itself and I cannot view Old or NEW sms messages (apart from when the message bubble is shown as a new message arrives). My messaging inbox, drafts, outbox and deleted items all show the number of messages in them, but I cannot view or access any of them.
Is there any way these messages can be accessed or deleted?
Help!!
Any solution yet
Hi... has anyone figured a way around this yet?
I've spoken to someone at o2 and they said it had something to do with the way the inbox is recognised/linked.
After a hard reset the system is given a new id...but the old messages are linked to an older id....
There must be someway around this.
If I can see the message headers surely there must eb a way of reading the messages!!!!!
HELP PLEASE
A work around if you're stuck
I use Sprite backup which caused this problem after a restore. After raising it with their support team they supplied me with the attached file which allows SMS messages to be received and read.
BE AWARE that all messages on the device will be deleted, but new messages received will work. This will erase SMS, MMS & any emails that are on the device, so use with caution. Make sure you have a full backup!!!
'lo.
Apologies, I'm a bit of a noob around here. I asked about this in IRC and I got a few half-answers. Essentially, I'm one of those guys who keeps logs of most things. That said, I want to remove the text messages from my phone, but have them backed up and readable on my computer.
The reason for wanting to remove them has to do with the fact that someone suggested that the 1500+ text messages are (for some silly reason... text... of all things) slowing down my Fuze. This would make sense, since I noticed that using Mystic Series, my phone has slowed down over time... and since text messages (non-graphical in nature) are all that I've gained, this theory would make sense.
I've used PIM Backup... but how do I backup text messages to my computer where I'm able to read them?
Many thanks!
if you have a mac you could use missing sync which has that option while on the pc side i believe theres another software for it. But you could also use vito sms chat to make a complete backup of each conversation thats readable by a computer...
hey im looking for this too, but for windows
ive already researched jeyo mobile extender and pocketexport
which one of those is better and is there anything else?
tried out pocketexport, wasn't able to get it to function. Was going to do Vito SMS Chat, but didn't get around to it.
I ended up using Microsoft MyPhone. I happened to stumble upon the SMS "Archive to Internet" feature. Unfortunately, you can't just select "Archive All". You have to go by pages of messages (I had to "Archive All" 122 pages). However, everything is backed up in a readable format online, and it removes it automatically from your phone, giving you the option to restore later.
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tried out pocketexport, wasn't able to get it to function. Was going to do Vito SMS Chat, but didn't get around to it.
I ended up using Microsoft MyPhone. I happened to stumble upon the SMS "Archive to Internet" feature. Unfortunately, you can't just select "Archive All". You have to go by pages of messages (I had to "Archive All" 122 pages). However, everything is backed up in a readable format online, and it removes it automatically from your phone, giving you the option to restore later.
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One question. Does it put them back in there original threaded format?
Have you looked into Dashwire? It allows you to sync almost all of your phone content (or whatever you select) to a free online service. Text messages, contacts, pictures and videos, etc. I have been using it for a bit now and am pretty happy with it. If I can find a better option that will allow me to do this with a local machine I will take it as I would prefer to have everything on my own systems (I,too, am one who likes to keep copies of everything) and I have not yet tried to find a way to move the archives from the Dashwire service to my home systems.
The service definitely is not an ideal solution but it works for now.
myphone.microsoft.com. its awesome. use it.
I would be willing to start a bounty for a auto text delete app... like delete texts for each person after 100 texts... is this possible?
Its not auto, but try SMS Quick delete
No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
I agree with this post. I think getting sms quick delete to do a nightly scheduled delete would be amazing.
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No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
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I think youre missing the point.
I agree, btw something like this would be great. Either running to deleted messages by scheduled task and or delete message based on a specified count.
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No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
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It's not that hard to mail a letter via postal service, but I'd still rather email.
I think it's a great idea, you could adjust it to purge anything over x number of messages or older than x number of days.
I'd love to see this happen.
OP I think you may have a better chance by emailing SMS Quick Delete because they already have the app started...
I haven't looked into what APIs the SDK offers for dealing with text messages, but just thinking this through real quick, this shouldn't be a hard app to write.
When I get a text, it appears in both the stock app and in Handcent. This indicates that the messages are stored in a central location. The existence of Handcent and Chomp also make it clear that third party apps can access and manipulate this storage.
Performing tasks on a schedule is easy to code.
What sort of features would people like to see in this? Delete by age? Delete by count? Exempt certain contacts from having their messages deleted? etc...
I've been looking for an idea for a simple app to write to get more familiar with coding for the Android environment. If there's interest in something like this, it seems like as good a project as any to practice with.
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I haven't looked into what APIs the SDK offers for dealing with text messages, but just thinking this through real quick, this shouldn't be a hard app to write.
When I get a text, it appears in both the stock app and in Handcent. This indicates that the messages are stored in a central location. The existence of Handcent and Chomp also make it clear that third party apps can access and manipulate this storage.
Performing tasks on a schedule is easy to code.
What sort of features would people like to see in this? Delete by age? Delete by count? Exempt certain contacts from having their messages deleted? etc...
I've been looking for an idea for a simple app to write to get more familiar with coding for the Android environment. If there's interest in something like this, it seems like as good a project as any to practice with.
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Issue is
1. You want to delete it when no one is sending you messages as to delete one you missed which would make you think that scheduled at night is best but...
2. Either count or time (i.e. middle of the night schedule) can screw you up if you get a message and the app then deletes it before you are able to check your messages...
I think it could be anything if you could prevent the deletion of new texts then I guess it wouldn't matter as much.
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Issue is
1. You want to delete it when no one is sending you messages as to delete one you missed which would make you think that scheduled at night is best but...
2. Either count or time (i.e. middle of the night schedule) can screw you up if you get a message and the app then deletes it before you are able to check your messages...
I think it could be anything if you could prevent the deletion of new texts then I guess it wouldn't matter as much.
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I see what you're saying, but if it's properly designed, neither one should really be an issue. If, for example, it's set to auto-delete anything over 30 days old, well, frankly if it's been sitting on your phone for 30 days and you haven't read it yet, then either it wasn't important, or you've been sitting in jail and likely have more important things to worry about.
Same with going by number of messages, you'd want the threshold set at a level where there's not really much chance of you not getting to it before it gets deleted.
Ideally, these thresholds would be user configurable. For me, deleting anything over 100 texts would easily retain a month's worth, but for my daughter, it would be blasting stuff that was only a few hours old. (I've honest to god seen this girl sleep with her phone in her hands, thumbs never leaving typing position....)
That said, it would definitely be a good idea to never, ever delete unread messages. Or, at least have separate criteria for unread messages.
isn't this a feature that's included in non-Sense messages app??? I much prefer that version, but I don't know how to replace the sense version with that one (if possible)
I think having delete by both age and number would be best... for example, if it could delete any message that is more than say 5 days old, up to the point where there is <10 messages left in the thread then stop deleting from that thread
and if you could adjust the two variables...
and:
adjust which persons messages get deleted...maybe even make it so that you could adjust the two variables individually depending on the person?
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maybe even make it so that you could adjust the two variables individually depending on the person?
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Ultimately, that's the idea. Let each user specify their own criteria.
To be honest, if I decide to take a crack at this, my initial "proof of concept" version would probably just have a couple criteria hardcoded in, and then I would add configurability in increments.
The actual "guts" of this program should be crazy simple to code, but being new to Android, I'm still getting used to designing UIs on the platform, so that would be the portion that slows me down (and also the part that I'm looking to get some practice with...).
the file for storing texts is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
and no that's not a typo, there is a data folder within the data folder
also, by the way, I tried messing with it once to restore some old texts from a previous rom, and kept force closing my handcent and the stock app until I just deleted the file and let it recreate itself
Yeah honestly i am shocked that no one has done this. My friend and i have had so many texts our phone slows way down. And then when we try to delete txts of the contact(s) with the largest amount of texts the phone will lock up for along time or untill we pull the battery. After the phone lock up the texts are still there. i would be happy if all my contacts where limited to 100 texts. this issue normally happens around the 1000 mark (for a single contact) from what i have noticed.
Also this has happend on sevral roms that i have used so its def not a rom issue
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the file for storing texts is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
and no that's not a typo, there is a data folder within the data folder
also, by the way, I tried messing with it once to restore some old texts from a previous rom, and kept force closing my handcent and the stock app until I just deleted the file and let it recreate itself
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Yeah, that's a database file. Probably not a great idea to edit it directly, you would want to make changes through the sqlite interface....
any solutions?
Hi guys ... I have a really silly question .. I have an old Blackberry Curve 8700 which has some very important SMSs in it .. I would like to copy over all the SMS from this Blackberry Curve 8700 into my new HTC Desire Z ... Problem is I dont see any tool for the Blackberry which allows me to export SMS messages .. So my only option is to maybe somehow open up the SMS Database for my Android phone is some editor, and manually plant the SMSs from my blackberry by manually typing them in, and also setting the correct times as to when I received them, or when I sent them out .. There are only like 10-15 messages so I don't mind manually typing them in if I have to, but because they are so important, I have to somehow copy them over ..
Any suggestions ? Is there any tool available for the Androids which allows you to dissect and operate on the SMS database in an Android phone at low level ?
Any other suggestions are welcome too ...
What exactly is a "very important SMS" and why couldn't you simply just record the information in a text file or write it down somewhere? Email it to yourself? Why does it need to be loaded into the SMS database of another device? Why must it remain an SMS?
I hope that's not prying, but I just can't seem to understand why it would need to be kept in "sms format"
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What exactly is a "very important SMS" and why couldn't you simply just record the information in a text file or write it down somewhere? Email it to yourself? Why does it need to be loaded into the SMS database of another device? Why must it remain an SMS?
I hope that's not prying, but I just can't seem to understand why it would need to be kept in "sms format"
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Its actually a business related thing .. I have talks with clients and its very important you have a complete chronological record of all discussions in your phone .. So I would really prefer to copy them over if I can as this would make my life a lot easier later when referring to these conversations ..
By SQlite you can edit a sqlite file and put it back into
take pictures with your new phone of all the SMSes.
Use SMS Faker. It let's you put fake text messages on your phone at any time. To and from.
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Okay I was wondering how the iPhone handles old text messages. Like, after a certain amount of texts, usually 200+, Android automatically starts deleting them to save space on the phone. How the iPhone do this? Does it store every text message on the phone or what because I had a friend who was able to scroll back pretty far in his conversations and I'm not exactly sure if they were being retrieved from a server or if they were stored on his phone? I am asking because I wanted to know if the 8gb iPhone 4 would get all its space taken since I usually text 2000-3000 messages per month.
Any help would be appreciated, Thanks.
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Okay I was wondering how the iPhone handles old text messages. Like, after a certain amount of texts, usually 200+, Android automatically starts deleting them to save space on the phone. How the iPhone do this? Does it store every text message on the phone or what because I had a friend who was able to scroll back pretty far in his conversations and I'm not exactly sure if they were being retrieved from a server or if they were stored on his phone? I am asking because I wanted to know if the 8gb iPhone 4 would get all its space taken since I usually text 2000-3000 messages per month.
Any help would be appreciated, Thanks.
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The iPhone stores SMS messages on the phone's internal flash memory. Unless you text a lot... to the tune of 15 million text messages you won't run out of memory. Old text threads can be deleted. I'm not sure on this, but I'm somewhat certain there's an option to delete messages past a certain # in threads somewhere in the settings. It's been a while since I held an iPhone in my hand.