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I have searched everywhere and I am not sure if I can change the baseband (or if its doable at all) of my HTC Sensation to 850/1900. My carrier use those and I am stuck with a great phone but with 900/2100.
On a defy thread I found Fix_3g_850.1900Mhz-signed.zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-944258.html) but I am not sure if it will work for a Sensation.
Thanks for your help...
As far as I know you can't change the baseband frequencies as it is dependent on hardware.
valamer said:
As far as I know you can't change the baseband frequencies as it is dependent on hardware.
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This.
You need the Bell Sensation for AT&T bands. It's hardware only.
Or the Telstra version.
Thanks for the replies. Yes, effectively, I just hang up with HTC and its Hardware based the baseband so no luck to ever fix this issue. Such a bummer, I love this phone but I'll have part away from it. Its only 3 weeks old.
Thanks again for all replies.
soapbox73 said:
Thanks for the replies. Yes, effectively, I just hang up with HTC and its Hardware based the baseband so no luck to ever fix this issue. Such a bummer, I love this phone but I'll have part away from it. Its only 3 weeks old.
Thanks again for all replies.
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Ironically I am in the exact opposite situation .. I got a Z710a from the local Thai HTC authorised reseller and AIS uses 900MHz for 3g ..
Sidewindr said:
Ironically I am in the exact opposite situation .. I got a Z710a from the local Thai HTC authorised reseller and AIS uses 900MHz for 3g ..
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ummm....do i see a trade in the works?
Doubt it logistically a bit of a pain...
thats too bad, seems much easier than trying to sell an out of region fone or hope for local trades of the same fone w/ diff bands
either way, hopefully you guys stick with the sensation in the long run
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thats too bad, seems much easier than trying to sell an out of region fone or hope for local trades of the same fone w/ diff bands
either way, hopefully you guys stick with the sensation in the long run
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It's not out of region actually, I purchased it from HTC Thailand .. It's just my carrier decided to use 900MHz band for their 3G
shazbot, well good luck on the flippety flop fone swap
Sidewindr said:
Ironically I am in the exact opposite situation .. I got a Z710a from the local Thai HTC authorised reseller and AIS uses 900MHz for 3g ..
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why on earth would they sell you a Z710a? i even wonder why the HTC reseller would even have one in stock!
sup with that?
Because it is the official Thai model. All the other carriers work fine with it for 3G.. just AIS uses 900MHz. I bought it from a HTC shop not a carrier.
Still better than UK where we only got 900mhz 3g in January
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Sidewindr said:
Ironically I am in the exact opposite situation .. I got a Z710a from the local Thai HTC authorised reseller and AIS uses 900MHz for 3g ..
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i have 2 htc sensation z710e from t-mobile and i need a z710a.
if you want we can swap , if you need a z710e.
i am from chile, here the 3g is 850/1900
Regards
Pablo
I know this is an old thread but I am from thailand and I have the Z715e (Sensation XE supporting 900/2100 but would have liked 850MHZ). Moving from an iphone, which is quadband, i did not know there was an issue with frequency band and now I cannot use 3g on my network and am looking for some solution.
I see that Samsung Galaxy S and S2 also had this problem earlier regarding frequency band but with some internal unlock, they were able to use all bands. So, is there no similar way with the HTC Sensation XE or is it absolutely hardware only?? Would HTC invest in making two seperate radio ship for different phones?
Sincerely,
Ravit
holypiston said:
I know this is an old thread but I am from thailand and I have the Z715e (Sensation XE supporting 900/2100 but would have liked 850MHZ). Moving from an iphone, which is quadband, i did not know there was an issue with frequency band and now I cannot use 3g on my network and am looking for some solution.
I see that Samsung Galaxy S and S2 also had this problem earlier regarding frequency band but with some internal unlock, they were able to use all bands. So, is there no similar way with the HTC Sensation XE or is it absolutely hardware only?? Would HTC invest in making two seperate radio ship for different phones?
Sincerely,
Ravit
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It's only hardware...there's no way to change it.
Hi everyone,
sorry for a noob question.
I have a HTC HD2 running an android rom (Typhonn), and tomorrow, i'm going to buy a new HTC, the Htc Sensation. The store says it is a HTC Sensation 4G (T-MObile version).
I have been reading a lot of stuff about, but untill now i'm still unable to distinguish a 4G model from other sensation ( i don't know how it used to be named - maybe vanilla whatelse).
Is there a specific serial number or a simple test or any sign or place in settings or configurations i can go to confirm if it is the genuine 4G model?
Once again, sorry for my bad english, for my noob question, and thanks in advance for your attention.
p.s. yes, i've already googled for it, but find lots of confusing pictures and reviews.
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Hi everyone,
sorry for a noob question.
I have an HTC HD2 running an android rom (Typhonn), and tomorrow, i'm going to buy a new HTC, the Htc Sensation. The store says it is a HTC Sensation 4G (T-MObile version).
I have been reading a lot of stuff about, but untill now i'm still unable to distinguish a 4G model from other sensation ( i don't know how it used to be named - maybe vanilla whatelse).
Is there a specific serial number or a simple test or any sign or place in settings or configurations i can go to confirm if it is the genuine 4G model?
Once again, sorry for my bad english, for my noob question, and thanks in advance for your attention.
p.s. yes, i've already googled for it, but find lots of confusing pictures and reviews.
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Youll probably see the T-Mobile logo on it somewhere near the top front of the screen. Also, if this is any sort of reputable dealer, they ought know what they have.
Matt
Easy, the unbranded one has HTC logo in the middle, and 4G version has HTC logo on the left and T-mobile logo on the right (below the top speaker)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
As both are HSPA+ capable, they are both "4G."
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Youll probably see the T-Mobile logo on it somewhere near the top front of the screen. Also, if this is any sort of reputable dealer, they ought know what they have.
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idavid_ said:
Easy, the unbranded one has HTC logo in the middle, and 4G version has HTC logo on the left and T-mobile logo on the right (below the top speaker)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Thank you guys. But i've already read about 4G distributted by canadian Bell, then this 4G model comes with a Bell logo in the upper right instead of T-Mobile logo?
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As both are HSPA+ capable, they are both "4G."
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Thank you Rod3, so the only difference is the T-Mobile (or Bell) logo in the right side, just below speaker? Because there are some sites talking sensation is 3G dual band, and 4G is 3G triband. This all based on this comparation.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3922&idPhone2=3875
look at both 3G network line, 4G additional 1700 Mhz capable. This is right?
Maybe it has a sign in the battery like HTC HD2. Can u tell me if your sensatio battery has the model of phone type printed?
Once again thanks.
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Thank you guys. But i've already read about 4G distributted by canadian Bell, then this 4G model comes with a Bell logo in the upper right instead of T-Mobile logo?
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I've never seen a Bell version, but I think it looks the same as unbranded
Edit: I just found pics of Bell version, and yes, it looks the same as unbranded
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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I've never seen a Bell version, but I think it looks the same as unbranded
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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You are correct. Just the HTC logo under the speaker.
Done.
T-Mobile 4g model bought.
Everything is ok. Actualy no real difference from sensation unbranded (technical specs), just only the T-Mo logo.
Thanks you all.
See you on Sensations subforum.
p.s. Time to read a lot about starting rooting, s-off , mods, roms and other things about this beauty.
There is a difference that is more than cosmetic and that as you already mentioned is the data bands. Where are you and what bands does your provider use for 3G/4G data?
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moto211 said:
There is a difference that is more than cosmetic and that as you already mentioned is the data bands. Where are you and what bands does your provider use for 3G/4G data?
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Bands are the same on both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Bands are the same on both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Really? They might be the same on the tmo and the bell mobility versions but the OP didn't mention bell mobility. And I could be mistaken, but doesn't the tmo version have different bands then say the unbranded european version?
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Really? They might be the same on the tmo and the bell mobility versions but the OP didn't mention bell mobility. And I could be mistaken, but doesn't the tmo version have different bands then say the unbranded european version?
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Bell and tmobile are different bands.
The bell version has support for 850/1900 wcdma.
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Bands are the same on both
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Sorry to raise this again, but, really? I bought a T-Mobile unlocked Sensation 4G, and on the website I bought it from (newaci.com) the UMTS bands were listed as 900, 1700, 2100. The box, however, had the following on it - 1700, 2100, 1900 (in that order). Now I am using this beauty on Wind Mobile, with is UMTS 1700, so that's fine, but what I'd like to ascertain is whether my phone will work AS 3G (that's crucial) on Bell or Rogers (they both use UMTS 1900 as 3G band).
I don't even know how I can check it. I have a Bell SIM, but as I ported my number, it is no longer able to log on to Bell network (and the plan that came with it didn't have data anyway). HOWEVER, when I put this Bell SIM card into the phone and ask it to search for WCDMA-only networks, it _does_ detect Bell network. But again, as my SIM is not registered at Bell anymore, I cannot register and so I cannot check properly.
Thanks for clarifying in advance.
EDIT: I just checked newayci.com, and it used to be listed on newayci.com as 900-1700-2100 two weeks ago, but now they've corrected the specs to 1900-1700-2100. _However_, again, in the carrier chart them guys claim that the phone, as far as mobile internet browsing is concerned, will only work as 2G on Rogers, and that it won't work on Bell at all - which doesn't add up at all, if UMTS 1900 band is really in the phone (for both Bell and Rogers use it for 3G).
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Sorry to raise this again, but, really? I bought a T-Mobile unlocked Sensation 4G, and on the website I bought it from (newaci.com) the UMTS bands were listed as 900, 1700, 2100. The box, however, had the following on it - 1700, 2100, 1900 (in that order). Now I am using this beauty on Wind Mobile, with is UMTS 1700, so that's fine, but what I'd like to ascertain is whether my phone will work AS 3G (that's crucial) on Bell or Rogers (they both use UMTS 1900 as 3G band).
I don't even know how I can check it. I have a Bell SIM, but as I ported my number, it is no longer able to log on to Bell network (and the plan that came with it didn't have data anyway). HOWEVER, when I put this Bell SIM card into the phone and ask it to search for WCDMA-only networks, it _does_ detect Bell network. But again, as my SIM is not registered at Bell anymore, I cannot register and so I cannot check properly.
Thanks for clarifying in advance.
EDIT: I just checked newayci.com, and it used to be listed on newayci.com as 900-1700-2100 two weeks ago, but now they've corrected the specs to 1900-1700-2100. _However_, again, in the carrier chart them guys claim that the phone, as far as mobile internet browsing is concerned, will only work as 2G on Rogers, and that it won't work on Bell at all - which doesn't add up at all, if UMTS 1900 band is really in the phone (for both Bell and Rogers use it for 3G).
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I meant that Sensation 4G and unbranded Sensation have the same bands. The Bell version has different bands from both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
So the International Version has no 4G support that has been established; however, their could be a possible way to still get 4G. I have seen with the SG2 International and The SG2 Tmo if you flash the modem of the tmo one onto the international they got 4G on Tmo. I have also read that i think it was the nexus or galaxy note or something had a locked band that they unlocked.... I heard that a radio probably wont change anything but does anyone else have any ideas?
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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dislplin01 said:
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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Don't like waiting and I travel a lot.
Personally I think you should just wait you gaffe the s2 so it's not like you dying from a crappy phone and that way you would know it works properly I'm not sure about the one s but I know on my HTC sensation there is a extra antenna for the 4 g and we can't even buy a extra battery cover unless it had that antenna or we loose 4g
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I already HAVE the one s I came from the amaze for the record. Interesting thoughts.
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
TramainM said:
Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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So say its all over and theirs no changing it. Those of us who had no idea that it wouldn't work is their any way would could minupulate HTC or Tmo into giving us a version that will suport it. You could play the "It says hspa+ on your website"
The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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joshnichols189 said:
The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
TramainM said:
Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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htc fan89 said:
It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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So people wouldn't buy one to use it for a carrier it wasn't meant to be on? If the band is only in the T-Mobile version and people are on T-Mobile, their only choice is to buy it from T-Mobile if they want 3G.
T-Mobile probably doesn't want people buying their flagship off contract.
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Ok so i have a htc sensation from telstra with the next G network logo on the back, random as question if i bought a 4g sim and put in my phone..would it work? or does it need new hardware?
I guess it depends if it'a a Z710a or a Z710e and then depends on which network you want to connect to.
For example in Europe all the phones are Z710e. In the US the can be Z710e (T-Mobile) or Z710a (AT&T).
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I guess it depends if it'a a Z710a or a Z710e and then depends on which network you want to connect to.
For example in Europe all the phones are Z710e. In the US the can be Z710e (T-Mobile) or Z710a (AT&T).
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Yeah its Z710e and probs telstra as it seems they have the only decent 4g network in Melbourne.
Have a look at: http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html (or search for Z710a)
Put in the country and it "should" show the network compatibility.
Interesting, Z710e and Telstra != 3G compatibility.
Are you sure, as you said it's a Telstra phone, that it's not a Z710a.
Anyway look at that site, it might help a little.
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Have a look at: http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html (or search for Z710a)
Put in the country and it "should" show the network compatibility.
Interesting, Z710e and Telstra != 3G compatibility.
Are you sure, as you said it's a Telstra phone, that it's not a Z710a.
Anyway look at that site, it might help a little.
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Thanks man, but i was talking about 4G and it is is a telstra phone but we bought it outright and unlocked, (Then rooting soo!..No telstra boot)
rezkon said:
Thanks man, but i was talking about 4G and it is is a telstra phone but we bought it outright and unlocked, (Then rooting soo!..No telstra boot)
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Don't get too caught up in the 4G terminology (a.k.a. marketing bollocks), essentially it's all 3G (HSPA/HSPA+). You need to ensure that the phone z710e/Z710a works on 3G with your carrier, otherwise you'll just have EDGE and Voice only.
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Don't get too caught up in the 4G terminology (a.k.a. marketing bollocks), essentially it's all 3G (HSPA/HSPA+). You need to ensure that the phone z710e/Z710a works on 3G with your carrier, otherwise you'll just have EDGE and Voice only.
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Oh yeah its got 3G. i know that for sure. Same with my Xoom.
Hi guys, it's time to upgrade from my old Desire, and One S seems to be really the best replacement.
Unfortunately in my country there are just Z560e models, Z520e models are trading on much higher price
So I'm wondering can I get a T-mobile US version, flash an international RUU and use it with Europe 3G networks?
Here we use primary 900/2100 for 3G.
Sorry if this question is already asked, I searched a lot for the last couple of hours with no satisfying answer coming up.
Thanks
stavel said:
Hi guys, it's time to upgrade from my old Desire, and One S seems to be really the best replacement.
Unfortunately in my country there are just Z560e models, Z520e models are trading on much higher price
So I'm wondering can I get a T-mobile US version, flash an international RUU and use it with Europe 3G networks?
Here we use primary 900/2100 for 3G.
Sorry if this question is already asked, I searched a lot for the last couple of hours with no satisfying answer coming up.
Thanks
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Are all T-Mobile one s using the snapdragon s4? Or do some use snapdragon s3?
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chrikenn said:
Are all T-Mobile one s using the snapdragon s4? Or do some use snapdragon s3?
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All T-Mobile US One S phones come with s4 processor. s3 One S phones are made for Asian markets.
With T-Mobile branded version you have to super CID it in order to flash different region RUUs.
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how I can perform this procedure if I have a htc 3g band 900/2100 and I have the 1900 as I do I have an s4
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The One S is an awesome upgrade from teh Desire, trust me
Here is a table and some frequency info, but you should probably doublecheck with your carrier if you manage to find someone there who understands what you talk about;.)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/7
From the review:
What’s awesome about the T-Mobile HTC One S is that it supports 2100 MHz UMTS Band I and AWS alongside Cellular 850 MHz and PCS 1900 MHz. The result is that if you either can find one unlocked, or unlock your T-Mobile One S, you get a quad-band phone which supports DC-HSPA+. I managed to get T-Mobile to unlock my One S, and had no issue using it on AT&T. If anything, I wish AT&T would carry a device like this, since I find the smaller form factor very appealing.
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I checked already and my carrier is migrating from 2100 to 900 for the 3G.
T-Mobile doesn't support 3G on 900 Mhz, anyway GSM (voice) is quad-band and can work worldwide.
Hm.. I don't see working S-off or I'm wrong?
No S-off yet
I see s-off is not needed for SuperCID and people are changing their CIDs to flash the latest OTA update.
So everything about de-branding US T-Mobile version boils down to the question "is the hardware compatible with the international RUU and will it have working 3G in Europe?"
I still can not find a trusted answer of this question....
stavel said:
So everything about de-branding US T-Mobile version boils down to the question "is the hardware compatible with the international RUU and will it have working 3G in Europe?"
I still can not find a trusted answer of this question....
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Then you should PM torxx. As he did TrickDroid for TMO US and the international version as well, he could be able to answer this question reliable.
You may find answers as well in these Threads:
[ROM][FINISHED][S4/S3][11 AUG] TrickDroid v7.1.0
[ROM][T-MOBILE-US][S4][FINISHED] TrickDroid v6.2.0
Also searching there is a bit harsh...