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[Q] Difference Between HTC (Z710e) Sensation V.S. HTC Sensation (WW Version)

Can somebody tell me what is the difference between HTC (Z710e) Sensation versus HTC Sensation (International Version) in terms of specs? I can't seem to justify why there is a very big difference in price. The Z710e being much cheaper.
Thanks in Advance.

I have the Z710e model and it's the generic European unbranded handset (running 1.35.401.1)

EddyOS said:
I have the Z710e model and it's the generic European unbranded handset (running 1.35.401.1)
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No Carrier Logos out of the box? Factory unlocked? No custom firmware?

100% stock - so long as you get x.xx.401.x (European) FW on it

i have Taiwanese Z710e (running 1.35.709.1)
it's stock ....

Z710e here... No problems, unbranded, S-ON.

Okay..that settles it then. I think I'm going for this Z710e.

redlinux said:
Can somebody tell me what is the difference between HTC (Z710e) Sensation versus HTC Sensation (International Version) in terms of specs? I can't seem to justify why there is a very big difference in price. The Z710e being much cheaper.
Thanks in Advance.
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Links please? Are you talking about european version and us (4g) version?

william31518 said:
i have Taiwanese Z710e (running 1.35.709.1)
it's stock ....
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Yes but it's from a different region. Depends where the OP is from really

If you are talking about the price difference you see in the US, that's because
- for the US version, most people selling it bought it from tmobile at a discount price with contract. In order to sell it, they have to lower the price to slightly cheaper than the full price, which is 550
- for the international version, it is not available in the US officially. People imported it from Europe or Asia, at full price. To cover cost, they sell it at above the full price of the device.
Hence the price difference. There isn't any difference between the specs of the two. The Us version has tmobile logo on it and tmobile branded software. But once people can get s-off, that would eliminate any software difference between the two. The US one is branded as a 4G device, and the international one isn't. But that's only because only carriers in the US brand HSPA+ as 4G....

just a quick question also only this time regarding the australian z710a telstra model. are they still 4g etc or are they of lesser spec.

boofhead said:
just a quick question also only this time regarding the australian z710a telstra model. are they still 4g etc or are they of lesser spec.
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http://www.htc.com/au/product/sensation/specification.html
According to HTC Aus website, its 3G speed is capable of 14.4 Mbps so it is a "4G" device by AT&T/T-Mobile standard...
Looking at the bands that this phone supports, it seems to have the same hardware as the Canadian Bell model. Bell also brands its as a 4G device, btw.

So, did I understand correctly that ALL Sensation versions are absolutely identical from the point of view of hardware and they all support HSDPA+, just some operators call it 4G and brand the device correspondingly while others do not?

The 4G supports different frequency bands to the normal GSM model
Network*
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
*Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location. Please check with your mobile operator.

EddyOS, thanks for your reply but now I'm even more confused
You say that:
HTC Sensation 4G is for 900/AWS/2100;
HTC Sensation Z710e is for 850/900/1800/1900, right?
Does this mean that HTC Sensation Z710e doesn't support UMTS (and, hence, HSDPA/HSDPA+) at all???
My operator works in 900/1800/2100(UMTS with HSDPA) bands. Does this mean I should choose Sensation 4G to be able to use high-speed Internet?

I have a Z710e and can connect at HSDPA

Then, the difference is that 4G just doesn't support 850/1900?

mine Z710e works on Tmobile US HSDPA. Full bar usually get 6M down 2 M up.
people say Tmobile Sensation 4G has faster data speed than Europe/Asia in US. like how much faster?

william31518 said:
mine Z710e works on Tmobile US HSDPA. Full bar usually get 6M down 2 M up.
people say Tmobile Sensation 4G has faster data speed than Europe/Asia in US. like how much faster?
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It does not! it is exactly the same!
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3875&idPhone2=3922

Sensation z710a and z710e
Hi Friend this is my first answer, the difference is simple but at the same time complex.
HTC Sensation like other phones has variants like this.
z710a:
GSM Quadband 850/900/1800/1900 MHz so you can use 2G networks with all carries but...
UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz only and if your carrier doesn't support this bands you can't use 3G or 3.5G with them.
z710e:
UMTS 900/1700/2100MHz here the same if your carrier doesn't support this frequencies you can't use 3G or 3.5G with them.
These are the main differences, and it's the same like happend with other brands like Samsung
S5360 work 3G with 900/2100
S5360L works 3G with 850/1900
S5830 work 3G with 900/2100
S5830L works 3G with 850/1900
I don't know why this differences because i thinks that it's cheap and easy to simply make phones that work 3G in pentaband 850/900/1700/1900/2100, but for any reason and i don't know why is like that for now.
I hope helps you and other people too.

[Q] How distinguish HTC Sensation 4G from HTC Sensation?

Hi everyone,
sorry for a noob question.
I have a HTC HD2 running an android rom (Typhonn), and tomorrow, i'm going to buy a new HTC, the Htc Sensation. The store says it is a HTC Sensation 4G (T-MObile version).
I have been reading a lot of stuff about, but untill now i'm still unable to distinguish a 4G model from other sensation ( i don't know how it used to be named - maybe vanilla whatelse).
Is there a specific serial number or a simple test or any sign or place in settings or configurations i can go to confirm if it is the genuine 4G model?
Once again, sorry for my bad english, for my noob question, and thanks in advance for your attention.
p.s. yes, i've already googled for it, but find lots of confusing pictures and reviews.

piratashitzu said:
Hi everyone,
sorry for a noob question.
I have an HTC HD2 running an android rom (Typhonn), and tomorrow, i'm going to buy a new HTC, the Htc Sensation. The store says it is a HTC Sensation 4G (T-MObile version).
I have been reading a lot of stuff about, but untill now i'm still unable to distinguish a 4G model from other sensation ( i don't know how it used to be named - maybe vanilla whatelse).
Is there a specific serial number or a simple test or any sign or place in settings or configurations i can go to confirm if it is the genuine 4G model?
Once again, sorry for my bad english, for my noob question, and thanks in advance for your attention.
p.s. yes, i've already googled for it, but find lots of confusing pictures and reviews.
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Youll probably see the T-Mobile logo on it somewhere near the top front of the screen. Also, if this is any sort of reputable dealer, they ought know what they have.
Matt

Easy, the unbranded one has HTC logo in the middle, and 4G version has HTC logo on the left and T-mobile logo on the right (below the top speaker)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

As both are HSPA+ capable, they are both "4G."

mrg02d said:
Youll probably see the T-Mobile logo on it somewhere near the top front of the screen. Also, if this is any sort of reputable dealer, they ought know what they have.
Matt
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idavid_ said:
Easy, the unbranded one has HTC logo in the middle, and 4G version has HTC logo on the left and T-mobile logo on the right (below the top speaker)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Thank you guys. But i've already read about 4G distributted by canadian Bell, then this 4G model comes with a Bell logo in the upper right instead of T-Mobile logo?
Rod3 said:
As both are HSPA+ capable, they are both "4G."
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Thank you Rod3, so the only difference is the T-Mobile (or Bell) logo in the right side, just below speaker? Because there are some sites talking sensation is 3G dual band, and 4G is 3G triband. This all based on this comparation.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3922&idPhone2=3875
look at both 3G network line, 4G additional 1700 Mhz capable. This is right?
Maybe it has a sign in the battery like HTC HD2. Can u tell me if your sensatio battery has the model of phone type printed?
Once again thanks.

piratashitzu said:
Thank you guys. But i've already read about 4G distributted by canadian Bell, then this 4G model comes with a Bell logo in the upper right instead of T-Mobile logo?
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I've never seen a Bell version, but I think it looks the same as unbranded
Edit: I just found pics of Bell version, and yes, it looks the same as unbranded
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

idavid_ said:
I've never seen a Bell version, but I think it looks the same as unbranded
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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You are correct. Just the HTC logo under the speaker.

Done.
T-Mobile 4g model bought.
Everything is ok. Actualy no real difference from sensation unbranded (technical specs), just only the T-Mo logo.
Thanks you all.
See you on Sensations subforum.
p.s. Time to read a lot about starting rooting, s-off , mods, roms and other things about this beauty.

There is a difference that is more than cosmetic and that as you already mentioned is the data bands. Where are you and what bands does your provider use for 3G/4G data?
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA Premium App

moto211 said:
There is a difference that is more than cosmetic and that as you already mentioned is the data bands. Where are you and what bands does your provider use for 3G/4G data?
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Bands are the same on both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

idavid_ said:
Bands are the same on both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Really? They might be the same on the tmo and the bell mobility versions but the OP didn't mention bell mobility. And I could be mistaken, but doesn't the tmo version have different bands then say the unbranded european version?

moto211 said:
Really? They might be the same on the tmo and the bell mobility versions but the OP didn't mention bell mobility. And I could be mistaken, but doesn't the tmo version have different bands then say the unbranded european version?
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Bell and tmobile are different bands.
The bell version has support for 850/1900 wcdma.

idavid_ said:
Bands are the same on both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Sorry to raise this again, but, really? I bought a T-Mobile unlocked Sensation 4G, and on the website I bought it from (newaci.com) the UMTS bands were listed as 900, 1700, 2100. The box, however, had the following on it - 1700, 2100, 1900 (in that order). Now I am using this beauty on Wind Mobile, with is UMTS 1700, so that's fine, but what I'd like to ascertain is whether my phone will work AS 3G (that's crucial) on Bell or Rogers (they both use UMTS 1900 as 3G band).
I don't even know how I can check it. I have a Bell SIM, but as I ported my number, it is no longer able to log on to Bell network (and the plan that came with it didn't have data anyway). HOWEVER, when I put this Bell SIM card into the phone and ask it to search for WCDMA-only networks, it _does_ detect Bell network. But again, as my SIM is not registered at Bell anymore, I cannot register and so I cannot check properly.
Thanks for clarifying in advance.
EDIT: I just checked newayci.com, and it used to be listed on newayci.com as 900-1700-2100 two weeks ago, but now they've corrected the specs to 1900-1700-2100. _However_, again, in the carrier chart them guys claim that the phone, as far as mobile internet browsing is concerned, will only work as 2G on Rogers, and that it won't work on Bell at all - which doesn't add up at all, if UMTS 1900 band is really in the phone (for both Bell and Rogers use it for 3G).

nornore said:
Sorry to raise this again, but, really? I bought a T-Mobile unlocked Sensation 4G, and on the website I bought it from (newaci.com) the UMTS bands were listed as 900, 1700, 2100. The box, however, had the following on it - 1700, 2100, 1900 (in that order). Now I am using this beauty on Wind Mobile, with is UMTS 1700, so that's fine, but what I'd like to ascertain is whether my phone will work AS 3G (that's crucial) on Bell or Rogers (they both use UMTS 1900 as 3G band).
I don't even know how I can check it. I have a Bell SIM, but as I ported my number, it is no longer able to log on to Bell network (and the plan that came with it didn't have data anyway). HOWEVER, when I put this Bell SIM card into the phone and ask it to search for WCDMA-only networks, it _does_ detect Bell network. But again, as my SIM is not registered at Bell anymore, I cannot register and so I cannot check properly.
Thanks for clarifying in advance.
EDIT: I just checked newayci.com, and it used to be listed on newayci.com as 900-1700-2100 two weeks ago, but now they've corrected the specs to 1900-1700-2100. _However_, again, in the carrier chart them guys claim that the phone, as far as mobile internet browsing is concerned, will only work as 2G on Rogers, and that it won't work on Bell at all - which doesn't add up at all, if UMTS 1900 band is really in the phone (for both Bell and Rogers use it for 3G).
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I meant that Sensation 4G and unbranded Sensation have the same bands. The Bell version has different bands from both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

is it quad band?

hey guys, is there a way to see what bands my sensation has. i got a unlocked/unbranded one from expansys-usa. My carrier uses 850 and 1900MHz for the 4g network. would like to know if my sensation has those bands.
Thanks

Just had a quick look on the HTC product overview website and it says it is definitely quad band - htc.com/nz/smartphones/htc-sensation/#specs
However this is for nz.
Would link it but haven't posted enough.

chrisg1548 said:
hey guys, is there a way to see what bands my sensation has. i got a unlocked/unbranded one from expansys-usa. My carrier uses 850 and 1900MHz for the 4g network. would like to know if my sensation has those bands.
Thanks
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You need to find out if it's a Z710e (900Mhz) or the Z710a (850Mhz). I'm afraid I don't know how you tell one from the other. Mine is a Z710e and under the battery it says PG58130, possibly the 850Mhz one is PG58100 but I can't confirm. The box that mine came in also states Z710e and 3G 900/AWS/2100.
Phantogenic said:
Just had a quick look on the HTC product overview website and it says it is definitely quad band - htc.com/nz/smartphones/htc-sensation/#specs
However this is for nz.
Would link it but haven't posted enough.
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The quad band aspect is for Voice and Edge, 2G. The 3G (also branded as 4G) is band specific, e.g. a US based 850Mhz phone would not have 3G in the UK or Europe AKAIK.

to find out if you have the Z710e or Z710a
goto settings>>About phone>>Phone identity. Look at the model number at the top

brusko1972 said:
to find out if you have the Z710e or Z710a
goto settings>>About phone>>Phone identity. Look at the model number at the top
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Just had a look and mine is useful in that it says "Sensation" for the model number :-(( I do know it is a Z710e though.

Sensation 4g on AT&T

If I get my sensation unlocked, would I be able to get AT&T 3g/4g?
Sent from my $40 Sensation XE with Beats Audio

it depends on what kind of sensation you got. only bell and telstra versions of the sensation will work with at&t 3/4g. all others you will only get 2g

walkinhotdog said:
it depends on what kind of sensation you got. only bell and telstra versions of the sensation will work with at&t 3/4g. all others you will only get 2g
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Its the Sensation 4g TMO US... I tried my friends sim card and I only got edge with at&t
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Unfortunately, with the T-Mobile Sensation, you can only get EDGE working on AT&T since AT&T uses different frequency bands than T-Mobile for 3G/4G.

slvrhwk said:
Unfortunately, with the T-Mobile Sensation, you can only get EDGE working on AT&T since AT&T uses different frequency bands than T-Mobile for 3G/4G.
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I have realized that, since I tried my friend at&t sim card
Sent from my $40 Sensation XE with Beats Audio

I wonder if we can unlock all the bands. I'm imagining we could at least switch over to the other bands.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
Didn't realize the bell version had different bands until now.

ziddey said:
I wonder if we can unlock all the bands. I'm imagining we could at least switch over to the other bands.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618
Didn't realize the bell version had different bands until now.
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That's a good idea... How about you try and report back on how it works out... I would but this is my only phone at the time due to me just selling my G2x
Sent from my $40 Sensation XE with Beats Audio

I was told us version is missing hardware but I don't think so don't see HTC changing just for T-Mobile
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA

I will only work on edge now the amaze with work on at&,T's 3,4g service.
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DLittle2012 said:
I will only work on edge now the amaze with work on at&,T's 3,4g service.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA
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Yea, I figured that out.... A guy that offered me his Amaze told that it worked with at&t 3g/4g
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milton try this on att i dont have cell service but fix the firmware from that bell post to work radio is updated to bell south hboot will work i have it on mine but no att service or cell service i use wifi cuz i am broke lol
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i3r2d0hodyb8j29/PG58IMG.zip

I think you're going to need to explain what you posted

well from what i can tell nothing new lol
its bell south firm i seen someone had trouble with new hboot so i changed it to 3.32 what we have and rezipped it but i dont have a att sim to test this with
but i dont see anything different but worth a shot seeing how i am going to att or simple mobile soon

modem and the like aren't included in ruu files. you'd have to dump those partitions and flash manually
what are the supported umts frequencies for the bell sensation? if someone wants to dump a bell sensation's modem partitions, i'm sure someone would be willing to flash, possibly myself included, although any sign of it "working" would be if i lost tmobile umts (assuming it's not a quad/pentaband umts modem).

craven667 said:
well from what i can tell nothing new lol
its bell south firm i seen someone had trouble with new hboot so i changed it to 3.32 what we have and rezipped it but i dont have a att sim to test this with
but i dont see anything different but worth a shot seeing how i am going to att or simple mobile soon
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I'm using simple mobile now and my sensation works fine, because it runs off of Tmobile's towers... I was asking if the sensation 4g worked on at&t because I was trying to make a trade with someone for a Amaze but they had at&t
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4G Question

Ok so i have a htc sensation from telstra with the next G network logo on the back, random as question if i bought a 4g sim and put in my phone..would it work? or does it need new hardware?

I guess it depends if it'a a Z710a or a Z710e and then depends on which network you want to connect to.
For example in Europe all the phones are Z710e. In the US the can be Z710e (T-Mobile) or Z710a (AT&T).

gol_n_dal said:
I guess it depends if it'a a Z710a or a Z710e and then depends on which network you want to connect to.
For example in Europe all the phones are Z710e. In the US the can be Z710e (T-Mobile) or Z710a (AT&T).
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Yeah its Z710e and probs telstra as it seems they have the only decent 4g network in Melbourne.

Have a look at: http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html (or search for Z710a)
Put in the country and it "should" show the network compatibility.
Interesting, Z710e and Telstra != 3G compatibility.
Are you sure, as you said it's a Telstra phone, that it's not a Z710a.
Anyway look at that site, it might help a little.

gol_n_dal said:
Have a look at: http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html (or search for Z710a)
Put in the country and it "should" show the network compatibility.
Interesting, Z710e and Telstra != 3G compatibility.
Are you sure, as you said it's a Telstra phone, that it's not a Z710a.
Anyway look at that site, it might help a little.
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Thanks man, but i was talking about 4G and it is is a telstra phone but we bought it outright and unlocked, (Then rooting soo!..No telstra boot)

rezkon said:
Thanks man, but i was talking about 4G and it is is a telstra phone but we bought it outright and unlocked, (Then rooting soo!..No telstra boot)
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Don't get too caught up in the 4G terminology (a.k.a. marketing bollocks), essentially it's all 3G (HSPA/HSPA+). You need to ensure that the phone z710e/Z710a works on 3G with your carrier, otherwise you'll just have EDGE and Voice only.

gol_n_dal said:
Don't get too caught up in the 4G terminology (a.k.a. marketing bollocks), essentially it's all 3G (HSPA/HSPA+). You need to ensure that the phone z710e/Z710a works on 3G with your carrier, otherwise you'll just have EDGE and Voice only.
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Oh yeah its got 3G. i know that for sure. Same with my Xoom.