He guys i got a ques ...i have rooted my atrix 2...now if we get an ota update i cannot do it because i have rooted and maybe some files have been modified by sulercharger script or some other app....so it i clear my user data from the settings-privacy then will it remove my root and make my phone like stock new...i have never installed any custom rom
hemanbond said:
He guys i got a ques ...i have rooted my atrix 2...now if we get an ota update i cannot do it because i have rooted and maybe some files have been modified by sulercharger script or some other app....so it i clear my user data from the settings-privacy then will it remove my root and make my phone like stock new...i have never installed any custom rom
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Wiping won't unroot I don't think, but root should not affect the update. You will lose it when you update, but there will probably be a way we can make some changes before the update to avoid that.
The supercharger script might be an issue but probably not. It should have an option to unsupercharge anyways, but you should be fine without it.
The update will check to make sure you have not deleted any of the bloat that is not removable without root. so if you have done that your best bet would be to fxz back to stock if it will not update.
Nopes....didnt remove any bloatware....ok so wont that brick my phone as uts rooted...i read somwhere in xda forum that an atrix 2 was soft bricked because the guy rooted
Normally if you are rooted and download and install an OTA update you will lose root. I always have. However, this handy free app has been tested and it says it will preserve your root if you OTA update. Check it out here: OTA Rootkeeper
Fall of Enosis said:
Normally if you are rooted and download and install an OTA update you will lose root. I always have. However, this handy free app has been tested and it says it will preserve your root if you OTA update. Check it out here: OTA Rootkeeper
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that won't work for the ICS update. at least with the leaked international ones. No it won't brick you, you will just loose your root. If you wan't the updated to stay rooted, don't do it right away and give us a few days to figure out how to keep it.
Even if you did softbrick you could almost certainly fxz back to stock.
Thanx alot sir..... i wont update until an official update or till we get a fully working ics custom....no hurries
Hello Everyone,
I'm fairly new to rooting phones and ROMs so if this question dosn't make sense please destroy my inner child I have a rooted sgs3 using odin and factory verizon build but the problem I am having is with ClockwordMod I think. The samsung update restarts the phone but ClockworkMod starts up right away and won't let the update go through. Is there a setting I need to change to allow all updates to bypass ClockworkMod or is there another way for me to get the update?
Any help is much appreciated.
Justin
Sounds to me like cwm just saved you from an auto ota update.
I use twrp so i dont know the answer to your question but if you're rooted, why would you want an ota?
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maniac2k said:
Sounds to me like cwm just saved you from an auto ota update.
I use twrp so i dont know the answer to your question but if you're rooted, why would you want an ota?
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Hello and thank you for the reply. I'm not sure that I need/want it though it continues to ask me to update so it's either keep saying defer or just let it update.
Of you download and flash one of the latest and greatest roms, you wont get asked to update. There is a way you can stop the ota but i dont remember off the top of my head. Im sure google knows. I would just flash a newer rom that includes the update.
hmmmm
maniac2k said:
Of you download and flash one of the latest and greatest roms, you wont get asked to update. There is a way you can stop the ota but i dont remember off the top of my head. Im sure google knows. I would just flash a newer rom that includes the update.
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What would you say is the latest and greatest ROM and can I use odin to flash it? Also, if I flash a new ROM I lose everything that is on my phone right??
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What would you say is the latest and greatest ROM and can I use odin to flash it? Also, if I flash a new ROM I lose everything that is on my phone right??
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Well I have beans 12 and woke up and my phone also was booted into recovery and stopped the update.
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ndjustin20 said:
What would you say is the latest and greatest ROM and can I use odin to flash it? Also, if I flash a new ROM I lose everything that is on my phone right??
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It is going to keep rebooting into CWM if you don't tell it to until you tell it to stop rebooting to recovery, which is an option in the menu system after flashing. If the OTA update installation is being intercepted by CWM's presence on your phone, then I'm not sure if there is a way around it other than flashing a ROM. Someone with more experience will have to chime in.
With that said, should you choose to install a new ROM, there are a plethora of ROM options on XDA, at least some of which have OTA updates disabled. See the following link for a guide (I'm assuming you are on Verizon):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32079760#post32079760
You can flash the stock, rooted ROM back on with ODIN, and then download EZ-Recovery (which has CWM) and load a custom ROM that way.
I use aokp but jellywiz is a nice stock like rom. Just download a rom and flash in cwm.
ndjustin20 said:
Hello Everyone,
I'm fairly new to rooting phones and ROMs so if this question dosn't make sense please destroy my inner child I have a rooted sgs3 using odin and factory verizon build but the problem I am having is with ClockwordMod I think. The samsung update restarts the phone but ClockworkMod starts up right away and won't let the update go through. Is there a setting I need to change to allow all updates to bypass ClockworkMod or is there another way for me to get the update?
Any help is much appreciated.
Justin
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If you want the update you should flash back to stock and restore the stock recovery. You can reroot and unlock the boot loader after you update.
Im having same issue. Verizion trying to force my phone to have less features. I was able to ignore it 2 weeks ago but now it keeps trying to force the update and I can keep delaying it. Any good tools you all know of to just block ota updates all together? Pretty happy with stock rom as is no need to fix it minus the copy and paste bug.
You can use Titanium Backup to freeze SDM 1.0 and the update will quit downloading. I'm not sure if freezing apps is supported in the free version but the paid version is well worth it of you plan on switching ROMs.
You could also flash Scotts stock rooted Rom with the latest update, then your phone status will say up to date. I flashed the zip right on my phone through cwm but I'm sure you can use Odin too
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I was in the exact same situation as you. The phone will not update with Clockwork Recovery installed. I simply flashed back to the stock ROM via ODIN (stock.vzw_root66 which a quick search should locate), accepted the OTA update, and then used the beginner's guide in the Android Development forum to get back root.
I use Titanium Backup to freeze SDM 1.0. Like JBO1018 wrote, the PRO version is well worth the price, if only to freeze bloatware. Everything else it offers is gravy.
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Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
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Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
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A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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usmaak said:
A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
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You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
The big reason I rooted was to uninstall all the bloatware and the ability to back everything up. That right there should be enough for anyone. As far as the ota, you should be able to, just expect to lose root as I've seen in other cases.
OnceAMatrixMan said:
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
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You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
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I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
usmaak said:
I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
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No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
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I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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usmaak said:
I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
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You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
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You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
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So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
usmaak said:
So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
nufan said:
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
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Doesn't the counter only get tripped when you flash a ROM? Just rooting won't trip it, will it?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
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One more question, and I am off to give it a try. Is there any way to uproot the phone once it is rooted? You know, just in case I need to bring it in for service if something goes wrong with it.
rooting S III 4.1.1
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
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so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
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Nope they both are ics only. Here it's the only way right now for jb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35418324
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So, since the JB update for my Samsung Galaxy S2X is due for April and seeing as my device is rooted I was wondering if I can perform an update via Samsung kies while retaining my root? I also noticed that while looking around super user I noticed a feature that said "OTA Survival" and this leads me to believe that before the actual update I will be able to check that option and update and after the update I can uncheck that to have it back to root? I'm sorry this is just my assumption and I only recently rooted my device last month. I haven't done anything major with my rooted device besides download free games off google *cough*. If my assumption is incorrect, may someone provide me with a way to keep my root while updating to JB?
Thanks to those who reply
*edit* I just realized that the S2X has no option to update over wifi and that I must connect my usb to manually update.. which makes OTA survival mode pointless. Now I am totally lost on how to keep my root.
You don't. You will have to reroot. Also if running a custom ROM you can't update that way
Wayne Tech S-III
You could just flash it like any other ROM instead of OTA. If people do root injected stock ROMs for your device they will probably be posted pretty quickly after release.
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You don't. You will have to reroot. Also if running a custom ROM you can't update that way
Wayne Tech S-III
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thanks for the reply! I am using a Koodo S2x t898d and I'm not running any custom roms or anything on my device. The only thing I've installed on my device after rooting it are root required applications on Google play and APKs off google. Does that mean I can just update my phone via samsung kies without any further required steps? At this point I'm more keen on updating to JB.
I am running stock 4.1.2 rooted and froze SDM 1.0 with titanium backup to avoid the constant update reminders.
I am now curious can I accept the updates and keep root somehow?
Is something like OTA root keeper worthwhile?
You can still root but cannot unlock the bootloader. I'd recommend reading the 4.3 sticky thread before taking the ota even if you want to stay stock.
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dpeeps74 said:
You can still root but cannot unlock the bootloader. I'd recommend reading the 4.3 sticky thread before taking the ota even if you want to stay stock.
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Are you saying that because of the 4.3 issues?
I would rather not mess with the phone but I just got a gear 2 neo and it will not connect. I think this is because of the older android version. The specs on the gear software say it requires 4.2 or higher
scottfarcuz said:
Are you saying that because of the 4.3 issues?
I would rather not mess with the phone but I just got a gear 2 neo and it will not connect. I think this is because of the older android version. The specs on the gear software say it requires 4.2 or higher
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Ya you need 4.3.
So you have options, since you're have a galaxy gear you're probably going to be running stock TouchWiz, so I would just take the upgrade.
You can root later, but the gear would never work with aosp anyway. Safestrap can make your phone run pretty well with a TouchWiz custom rom if you eventually decide you want one.
Or you can load a custom TouchWiz 4.3 rom right now and see if it connects, then you wouldn't lock your phone down permanently.
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Id like to go with a custom rom but don't have a clue what I'm doing.
Thanks for the help
scottfarcuz said:
Id like to go with a custom rom but don't have a clue what I'm doing.
Thanks for the help
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OK then read the sticky threads in the development section, everything there has guides available for rooting and installing roms, then ask more questions if you have them.
Make sure you're reading the older sticky thread, not the 4.3 one.
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I've been unable to even get the OTA to work. It downloads then fails on install.
I have reset the flash counter but thought that was all that would be required to repair/delete before running the OTA update.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Just to clarify the phone is currently rooted (casual method) on 4.1.2. I never touched the rom or bootloader after rooting i just installed titanium backup and froze all the bloat. Id like to get the OTA even if i lose root.
I reset the flash counter with triangle away and did a batch unfreeze with titanium backup.The OTA downloads then fails on install.
You would probably need to unfreeze everything for the update to work, at least thats what I have heard.
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scottfarcuz said:
I've been unable to even get the OTA to work. It downloads then fails on install.
I have reset the flash counter but thought that was all that would be required to repair/delete before running the OTA update.
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Just to clarify the phone is currently rooted (casual method) on 4.1.2. I never touched the rom or bootloader after rooting i just installed titanium backup and froze all the bloat. Id like to get the OTA even if i lose root.
I reset the flash counter with triangle away and did a batch unfreeze with titanium backup.The OTA downloads then fails on install.
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Use this thread to Odin flash 4.3. It's the exact same as taking the Ota.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586319
I'm sure you already know what taking the update entails, just be absolutely sure it's what you want to do before you flash it. There's no going back.
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