Guys,
I've been following the Epson and Novatek threads and it looks like good progress is being made on the fps cap. After playing with my friends Droid Incredible and seeing how silky smooth swiping and games are compared to my Evo, and with lack of 4G in my area, I am considering canceling and returning my Evo in 2 days while I am within the 30 day window. I'm sure other non-devs are in this boat and would really appreciate knowing what confidence level the devs have that they can break the 30fps cap AND keep the camera working once the appropriate drivers/source is out there. In other words, based on the latest information does it appear that the hardware is able, but the software isn't willing (yet)?
FWIW, I have a 003 w/Novatek and it has otherwise been pretty solid. But without 4G, and with this irritation, it is worth it to me to return the device and try Sprint again in 3-6 months if the alternative is to get "stuck" with a device with these limits. As an original G1 owner I know how crappy it can be to have a limitation that caps the capability of an otherwise very capable device (negligible onboard memory was a problem from day 1).
Thanks for helping me and others who may have the same question.
vettejock99 said:
Guys,
I've been following the Epson and Novatek threads and it looks like good progress is being made on the fps cap. After playing with my friends Droid Incredible and seeing how silky smooth swiping and games are compared to my Evo, and with lack of 4G in my area, I am considering canceling and returning my Evo in 2 days while I am within the 30 day window. I'm sure other non-devs are in this boat and would really appreciate knowing what confidence level the devs have that they can break the 30fps cap AND keep the camera working once the appropriate drivers/source is out there. In other words, based on the latest information does it appear that the hardware is able, but the software isn't willing (yet)?
FWIW, I have a 003 w/Novatek and it has otherwise been pretty solid. But without 4G, and with this irritation, it is worth it to me to return the device and try Sprint again in 3-6 months if the alternative is to get "stuck" with a device with these limits. As an original G1 owner I know how crappy it can be to have a limitation that caps the capability of an otherwise very capable device (negligible onboard memory was a problem from day 1).
Thanks for helping me and others who may have the same question.
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One has nothing to do with the other. The camera will be working once HTC releases the source, and it appears they have broken the cap and are probably gonna tweak it little by little.
People stop posting these threads!
Also, yes. It will be fixed and still have camera, but it won't be until we get the real HTC source. There is nothing devs here can do to make them release it faster. It's entirely up to them, but once we get it then we can have a fully working kernel along with fully working AOSP builds.
others may have the same question, but they:
1. read forum rules
2. have common sense
3. use the search button
Admin, move this thread to Q&A please.
Should be in the Q&A
The only reason the camera breaks is because we have to use a custom kernel to remove the FPS cap(and overclock). The custom kernel doesn't have the drivers for the camera because HTC is currently breaking the law and not releasing the source code, once that is released many amazing things will happen with this phone, including but not limited to the cap being removed with the camera and other things working.
HTC's track record on this source code release issue is starting to become fairly worrisome. That said. Yes this should be in the Q&A but at the same time I think you guys need to chill out a bit. He's not just posting another one of those threads, and this one is worded concisely enough that should someone choose to answer it, maaaaybe they could just sticky it over in the Q&A forum and be done with it.
Just saying, reserve the smackdowns for the obvious infractions of laziness.
Oh and as much as we all say use the search, I think it is worth noting that the forums search feature sucks and often still leaves you hooting through fifty pages of the same post just being quoted by someone else but still showing up as it's own result.
I cant help but feel like the fact that with SO many threads going way over the 300 post mark, eventually someone is going to need to write/use something better than off the shelf forum software, or we will forever be stuck tilting at windmills in regards to the "use the search" issue.
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HTC's track record on this source code release issue is starting to become fairly worrisome. That said. Yes this should be in the Q&A but at the same time I think you guys need to chill out a bit. He's not just posting another one of those threads, and this one is worded concisely enough that should someone choose to answer it, maaaaybe they could just sticky it over in the Q&A forum and be done with it.
Just saying, reserve the smackdowns for the obvious infractions of laziness.
Oh and as much as we all say use the search, I think it is worth noting that the forums search feature sucks and often still leaves you hooting through fifty pages of the same post just being quoted by someone else but still showing up as it's own result.
I cant help but feel like the fact that with SO many threads going way over the 300 post mark, eventually someone is going to need to write/use something better than off the shelf forum software, or we will forever be stuck tilting at windmills in regards to the "use the search" issue.
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Thanks for the consideration, Alcaron. I always love how the douches, most of whom have been here for about 3 years LESS than I have, scream "SEARCH" and "MOVE THIS TO Q&A" when, as you noted, the search here has its limitations and moving this to Q&A will GUARANTEE it won't get noticed and another person will follow right behind and ask the same question. Truth is, it is a legit question for devs and usually the crybabies aren't even qualified to answer dev questions anyway.
As you stated, HTC's delay in releasing the source is unacceptable and will probably cost them a RMA thanks to the censors who would rather squelch this discussion. Too bad, especially considering just how compelling the device would be if HTC would support the true wizards with this info.
Mods, move this, leave it, whatever you like, but I expect others want to understand what ffolkes and his peers think and it will be asked again.
The issue is posting this in the dev section, instead of the Q&A. That's what's inexcusable. Yes, the search function is subpar, but dammit at least re-post in the right section.
This keeps getting called "trivial" but the fact of the matter is when you see it 100 different times, the small annoyances add up to 1 big episode of rage! It's against the forum rules for a reason. Abide by them or leave.
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kluster1999 said:
The issue is posting this in the dev section, instead of the Q&A. That's what's inexcusable. Yes, the search function is subpar, but dammit at least re-post in the right section.
This keeps getting called "trivial" but the fact of the matter is when you see it 100 different times, the small annoyances add up to 1 big episode of rage! It's against the forum rules for a reason. Abide by them or leave.
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... stfu please ... so is trolling and filling the forum with your spam dictating what the mods need to do ...
MODS = Forum Police ...
YOU = Forum Douche ...
Solution = Mods Police... You just ignore all posts unless you can help out...
P.S. remember these words next time before you click reply: "THE FORUM DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND YOU..."
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... stfu please ... so is trolling and filling the forum with your spam dictating what the mods need to do ...
MODS = Forum Police ...
YOU = Forum Douche ...
Solution = Mods Police... You just ignore all posts unless you can help out...
P.S. remember these words next time before you click reply: "THE FORUM DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND YOU..."
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then you stop acting like it revolves around you. aren't you technically being "policing" this forum by teling him to stfu? seriously, these topics are coming way too often.
just ask yourself these questions.
does this thread contribute to development for the evo?
no. it's a guy who is telling us "thanks for your work, but i'm returning it cause there's too many problems. though i know you guys'll get it right eventually". look, there's nothing wrong with the post, just please put it in the right section!
wrx4memp said:
... stfu please ... so is trolling and filling the forum with your spam dictating what the mods need to do ...
MODS = Forum Police ...
YOU = Forum Douche ...
Solution = Mods Police... You just ignore all posts unless you can help out...
P.S. remember these words next time before you click reply: "THE FORUM DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND YOU..."
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I just felt everyone should read this twice, my advice is wait it out.
The EVO even without 4G is superior to the Incredible in my opinion and we will have it fully unleashed very soon.
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then you stop acting like it revolves around you.
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kluster1999 said:
The issue is posting this in the dev section, instead of the Q&A. That's what's inexcusable. Yes, the search function is subpar, but dammit at least re-post in the right section.
This keeps getting called "trivial" but the fact of the matter is when you see it 100 different times, the small annoyances add up to 1 big episode of rage! It's against the forum rules for a reason. Abide by them or leave.
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ROTFLMAO. "Abide by them or leave." Whatever, dude. Maybe you should take a chill pill - or leave yourself.
Again, at the end of the day if you can't handle these types of questions you are in for a lifetime of pain. This isn't a "how do I root my phone" question. This is a question, that in my opinion at least (and guess what, that matters at least as much as yours) should be here for two reasons:
1. it may actually get looked at by devs (versus in general) and
2. it is a legit dev question
Most of the 30fps threads have, at the moment, coalesced around three topics:
1. Which VPA settings give you the most FPS
2. Do we think the MDDI buffer has some hardware cap that is being fooled by some sort of RGB to MDDI bridge which is now either a) working great or b) a placebo effect, depending upon who you believe
3. How the various patches are effecting various hardware rev/panel combinations
At this point, without the source and the possibility of it not being released for months (see Hero), and based upon the discussions, I think it will be at least 3 months until we see a working 50-60fps solution, camera, and HDMI port solution - but I was giving devs a chance to agree or even disagree amongst themselves and to explain their position.
This is the last post I'll waste any time addressing the douches, if someone wants to contribute to the answer feel free to do so, and if you want to complain about the post then no one but the mods can stop you, but i won't perpetuate it.
You should return the device and get something else.
Wow. That all took an unexpected turn.
It's true that dev was the wrong spot to post, but oh well, get over it, they'll never learn..
Id keep it. Well I am, unless news of the epic comes verrrry quick.
Even then. Hard decision.
If you're willing to wait for a truly rewarding phone experience then hold out.
Sent from my Evo 4G
mrono said:
Should be in the Q&A
The only reason the camera breaks is because we have to use a custom kernel to remove the FPS cap(and overclock). The custom kernel doesn't have the drivers for the camera because HTC is currently breaking the law and not releasing the source code, once that is released many amazing things will happen with this phone, including but not limited to the cap being removed with the camera and other things working.
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On the contrary, the custom kernel does have the drivers for the camera--both cameras actually. I spent about an hour working on the camera last night, and it appears the problem isn't really with the drivers, but we probably have the wrong GPIO tables for it, since we're using the same ones the Incredible uses. I'm not sure how we can get the right tables without the official source, but me and maejrep have been working on it.
We'll update the custom kernel thread if it gets fixed.
Cicatrize said:
On the contrary, the custom kernel does have the drivers for the camera--both cameras actually. I spent about an hour working on the camera last night, and it appears the problem isn't really with the drivers, but we probably have the wrong GPIO tables for it, since we're using the same ones the Incredible uses. I'm not sure how we can get the right tables without the official source, but me and maejrep have been working on it.
We'll update the custom kernel thread if it gets fixed.
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Awesome Cicatrize, this type of info is exactly what I was looking for.....best of luck to you.
Ugh, the "something about my evo makes me mad so I'm going to get an <other phone>," threads get so old. Do it already, we don't need to hear about it. I personally like my EVO, I like being on Sprint with upgrades every year and good coverage and inexpensive monthly fees ($10 premium data addon be damned,) and I sure as heck know I don't want to lack those things and get tied into a 2-year contract with a $375 termination fee on Verizon or AT&T at the same time that said companies have started to tier data usage.
hi,
i have had 2 touchscreen cell phones that have bad the "ghost screen problem".
the screen becomes non responsive where you touch and sometimes when you touch a certain spot (icon) it responds somewhere else.
i am going insane trying to find an explanation to this issue!
could a techie/expert/electronic cell phone engineer explain this to me? please? i beg you!!!
i have made a video of my cell phone acting up and posted it on youtube. sorry i explained the video in portuguese... but you can still probably understand the video!
i cant post links yet... so... see my video under my username: emailyarabrandao (youtube.com/watch?v=j4l9PZJFe-Q)
i have tried everything: i am running stock android froyo, nothing is installed and i have done a hard reset. i have taken the battery off, it happens with the usb connected and not connected. i have tried another oem usb cable and even connected the darn phone to 3 different computers running different windows os systems. and no i am not using a screen protector. the screen is clean and i even have washed my hands before touching the darn screen.
like i said before, this has happened to two cell phones of mine! a htc g1 and a motorola droid 2.
i did some research on youtube and found various videos of people with the same problem. as i understood it is a touch screen issue, it happens in various makes and models of cell phones.
i thank you kindly for your time in reading this post! i hope you can help me understand this issue! thank you.
Didnt see the vid since i cant click on it. But if u are using dual touch on a phone with a cross axis issue it would do that.
If not and its single touch i guess its a faulty screen since u did mention the screen and ur hands are clean. (Water on the sceen can ccause that too btw.)
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^ i apologize moderator. i didn't due it on purpose! i will take a look at your forum rules. thank you. have a nice day
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kindred7 said:
Didnt see the vid since i cant click on it. But if u are using dual touch on a phone with a cross axis issue it would do that.
If not and its single touch i guess its a faulty screen since u did mention the screen and ur hands are clean. (Water on the sceen can ccause that too btw.)
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^hummm... you spoke greek to me here; "But if u are using dual touch on a phone with a cross axis issue it would do that.".
can you be more specific?
i guess i should have mentioned on my 1st thread what phones i had. my 1st touchscreen phone was a HTC G1 and the other was a Motorola Droid 2.
but as i mentioned above, i have seen various videos on youtube from other users too.
the vids are not specific to make and model, they are all random.
i thank you for your response.
please... any help on this???
i cant find enough material on the net to help me understand the "ghost screen issue"... the inner workings of it...
thank you in advance!
bumping this up, hoping some high tech peep would help me understand this issue!
anyone knows anything in regards to my 1st post/question on this thread?
i really would like to hear some high tech guys on this touch screen issue!
thank you in advance!
hi everone,,,
I'm planning to buy a new phone and this phone comes up as one of the few that I am thinking of. I do need it to be unlocked and rooted...
Any developers thinking of picking up this phone? Or this phone is dead on the water?
Thanx.
I actually just bought one last night, and was wondering the same thing.
I'm a *nix guru (coming from an n900) and would be happy to start playing around, but I am new to Android.
I haven't been able to find the stock firmware yet, which makes me nervous; even if I (soft)brick, I'm hosed.
If anyone manages to find the stock Samsung rom (or even the Rogers one), let me know, and I'll get started rooting.
I picked up the Rogers version, Galaxy S Glide, and Im pretty excited to see some custom roms for it.
Also, where is the best place to post and find info about this phone? I dont think there is a dedicated section on XDA yet.
Update: I actually looked around XDA and found the "Request a Forum" thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301121
Anyone interested in this device should help out with a request!
We need to somehow get the mods to make a Samsung Captivate Glide forum before anything will happend...
Although for it to warrant a forum I'm guessing we need a lot of people (that has the phone) and developers that want to do something to the phone.
We have one person for developer here, I guess we need more?
And we need to contact a higher person on XDA....
Anyone knows anyone?
↑I love the pun (^_-)
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So a couple of months ago I purchased my first android phone (my nexus) to specifically root and flash. I tried many roms and have had a jolly good time here at xda.
Now here is the small dilemma that I'm facing with all this new found knowledge of rooting phones. Ever since I rooted my gfs inc2, she goes around telling everyone that her bf(me) is the one to call for smartphone tech.
Yesterday I just rooted and flashed miui on her coworkers Droid 2 global. Btw that phone was a ***** to work on, I had to go to read like 5 different forums to get the corrects steps to flash gb roms.
And now just today my gf is asking me if I could jailbreak her brothers new iPhone 4.
Yeah I'm in no way mad about people asking me for help but I guess I'm now the phone guru that everyone relies on. I do enjoy working on different phones, and flashing roms are always fun.
I'm wondering if anyone else on xda has turned into the go-to-guy for smart phone related tech?
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+1
And it all started with an hd2
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In the same boat... Ask for money and see how quickly the people will start to disappear haha.
Epic-ly tapped from my Galaxy SII
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Yes.
I have been in this position. Mostly due to my root and rom changing need. Always people asking me to jailbreak their iphone/ipod (Easy if you ask on google, aye?) Currently I am on ICS(Android 4.0) on Samsung Galaxy S2.
Thanks for your time.
So i have 2 lines with Tmobile. One which i currently upgrade to SG2. The other one is my wife who still has Mytouch 3G 1.5V. Her upgrade wont take effect until another 5 months, which sucks. She very much liked HTC Sensation, she has no need for Amaze or SG2, since they Sensation is powerful enough to handle her every day use. I was looking at EBay and noticed a few new going for $350, way cheaper if she was to buy them from Tmobile.
My question is, would this be a good idea? What are the steps i should take if I buy the phone to have Tmobile set up 4G and everything it needs? I know i wont get any warranty by Tmobile, only by the maker. But are there any other downside to this? upside?
The upside is you wouldn't be in a contract. I believe you would only need to pop in the sim and set up the APN settings to match the ones on your SII. Just make sure you are buying a T-mo sensation not an AT&T sensation
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Sorry to post it on wrong section, though i did. To Dark lord, thanks for the responce. I will make sure to do so.