Hey all,
Not that i want to, but i was wondering how if possible, to unroot the samsung captivate. I got it rooted and installed the JH2 rom, but i don't know how to revert if i can.
I see the odin one click downloader to go back to the stock rom, but i don't know if that will unroot and make my phone as it was.
I would also like to know if i'm rooted and running the jh2 rom, what would happen if i click the reset button in the privacy menu of the settings.
It's called a one click tool for a reason. It reverts you entirely back to the original "out of the box" feeling. I'm pretty sure even att or samsung could figure out it had a different rom on it.
Also, rooting and flashing a rom are not the same thing
Sent from my Samsung i897
Kaik541 said:
It's called a one click tool for a reason. It reverts you entirely back to the original "out of the box" feeling. I'm pretty sure even att or samsung could figure out it had a different rom on it.
Also, rooting and flashing a rom are not the same thing
Sent from my Samsung i897
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Hey thanks for the reply.
I know that rooting and flashing a rom are not the same thing which is why i was confused about that one click tool. I was unsure if it would just revert a rom and not a root or if it would do both.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Hey thanks for the reply.
I know that rooting and flashing a rom are not the same thing which is why i was confused about that one click tool. I was unsure if it would just revert a rom and not a root or if it would do both.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Odin will perform a full flash of whatever ROM (the one-click just happens to do JF6 for AT&T) you want. This will replace everything, including partitioning even (that's what the .pit file is, if memory serves). Basically, I'd be willing to believe if you were to use Odin with the JF6 ROM and drop it off at AT&T, they would be none the wiser. You can also, of course, use this tool to flash the i9000 ROMs with our captivate kernel (buggy at best) or even use the new JH2 ROM (as you obviously know by saying you're on JH2).
A factory reset will only put you back to "factory" settings, I don't even know if it will restore missing AT&T apps, but I doubt it. But it will keep you on your current ROM. So factory reset on JH2 will keep you on JH2, while flashing with the one-click tool on JH2 will put you on JF6. Sorry if this is repetitive and long-winded, but I figured any additional clarification for others couldn't hurt
Edit: I should also add there IS a way to unroot somewhere on this forum, too lazy to do the search right now. There's a one-click root/unroot that I believe SHOULD work with JH2.
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Odin will perform a full flash of whatever ROM (the one-click just happens to do JF6 for AT&T) you want. This will replace everything, including partitioning even (that's what the .pit file is, if memory serves). Basically, I'd be willing to believe if you were to use Odin with the JF6 ROM and drop it off at AT&T, they would be none the wiser. You can also, of course, use this tool to flash the i9000 ROMs with our captivate kernel (buggy at best) or even use the new JH2 ROM (as you obviously know by saying you're on JH2).
A factory reset will only put you back to "factory" settings, I don't even know if it will restore missing AT&T apps, but I doubt it. But it will keep you on your current ROM. So factory reset on JH2 will keep you on JH2, while flashing with the one-click tool on JH2 will put you on JF6. Sorry if this is repetitive and long-winded, but I figured any additional clarification for others couldn't hurt
Edit: I should also add there IS a way to unroot somewhere on this forum, too lazy to do the search right now. There's a one-click root/unroot that I believe SHOULD work with JH2.
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Haha, i had to read this a couple times but i learned more in that post than i ever knew about these phones. I thank you for that. This definitely clarified allot of questions that i probably would have plagued the forums with.
(sorry if i put this thread in the wrong section, i see it was moved)
Thanks for the help =)
Alright, well today I finally decided to make the switch from the Atrix to a Skyrocket. I heavily modded the atrix and I'm used to having absolutely no freedom with my phone, so I have to hack my way through everything. With a bit or trial and error, I succeded. Anyway, to avoid soft-bricking my phone in less than 12 hours, I want to know everything I need to do in order to flash ROMs, kernals, and all that other good stuff. So far, all I've done s root and flash CWM. Am I done?
Thanks. Oh and before I leave, has anyone tested out that 1.89ghz OC kernal?
Hello fellow atrix user. I to came from the atrix . But have had samsung galaxy then sgs2 now sgs2 skyrocket. You rooted and installed cwm so your done. You can flash roms and kernels with cwm totally different world.then that pita atrix. For now best bet is to stay on stock rooted. People were havong some problems with alien rom. I have used the oc kernel. Up to 1.83ghz and got over 4200 quadrant with that ( not that quadrant really matters) but my phone did heat up alot while over clocking, and anything over 1.83 i got instant shutdown so i flashed stock rooted back. And im happy with it. And with sammy odin is your friend if u run into problems keep this thread handy it has easy to use directions how to odin back to stock and how to use odin to flash the tar and fix a soft brick http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348
Perfect! thats exactly what I needed... a heck of a lot easier to do too! And i've already done my research for the crash course I take it the TAR/ODIN stuff is the Skyrockets equivalent of RSD Lite? Looks easy (enough) to use and I have everything I need incase something bad happens. Anyway thanks again for the help! I guess I'll wait it out before flashing alien. Oh and one more question (yeah I do that a lot), whenever I flashed themes on my atrix, it NEVER worked, but I never found out what was wrong with it. Is there anything special I need to do aside from rooting/CWM? Or once I have that, I have the power to do ANYTHING posted in the dev section (that applies to my phone model and all that)?
Nothing special you need to do after root and recovery. But some themes cause problems on some roms as im sure you know. Some work some dont .
I have been seeing MANY threads lately involving questions such as, "How do I get on ICS?", "Should I update to ICS?", "I think I am bricked, how can I fix this?", and "How do I FXZ back to GB?" So I am creating this thread as an information only thread to answer these questions and more with links to proper threads that have already been posted for your benefit. Unless otherwise noted by the OP's or myself the following threads apply to the AT&T MB865. So without further ado....
What you need to know about ICS and your Atrix 2
The first link you need to look at is the Noob thread. I am going to be using terms like "Bootloader", "Soft-Brick", "Hard-Brick", "FXZ", "Fastboot", "OTA", and the like and user/developer JRW28 has posted a FANTASTIC thread to help you familiarize yourself with certain Android terminologies and certain HOWTO's that will help you understand and accomplish much of what I am going to be referring to. So with the Atrix 2, if you are confused with something. START WITH THE NOOB THREAD. Find it here: JRW28's NOOB Thread
Done? Well read it AGAIN.
Oh, what's that? You read it twice and memorized it? Okay, moving on....
The first question that needs to be answered is:
SHOULD I UPDATE TO ICS?
Well, we have all been waiting for ICS to come out, and it has officially been running on the Atrix 2 for a while via a find through Cheesecake. The initial leak is NOT the final OTA that is still trickling out. You need to first understand that. Is ICS better than GB? Of course it is. No one will argue that here, but what we are tackling is, should you upgrade to it?
When it comes to XDA, we are always looking for ways to improve our phones. That's why we're all here right? This is a DEVELOPERS site. With developing comes trials, and with trials comes ERRORS. Now when it comes to the Atrix 2 (A2 from here on) we have a locked bootloader. This means that recovering from developing, and/or modding errors is not as easy as recovering from errors and mistakes with phones that have unlocked bootloaders. Normally, on phones with unlocked bootloaders, it is easy enough to jump into Clockwork Recovery and restore a previously saved nandroid backup, because with unlocked phones the modified recovery REPLACES the original. Poof. Back to normal.
On locked down phones such as the A2, we have to depend on either a bootstrap recovery or the like to make up for the lack of our locked phones. Do we have recoveries? Sure, but they DO NOT replace the original stock recovery and therefore we depend on things such as Bootmenu and Safestrap to makeup for this. While this works it is definitely not ideal. So what happens when the recovery get's borked, ROM goes belly up, or your phone is stuck at the splash screen and won't boot into recovery?
Well this is where the ICS upgrade question comes into play. This phones DEPENDS on FXZ's (see noob thread for more info). If the above scenario(s) happen then we depend on being able to jump into Fastboot (FB from here on) and reflash our phone back to stock. With Gingerbread this was easy enough as we had an FXZ for GB.
With ICS, ONLY THE FIRST LEAK IS ABLE TO REFLASH BACK TO GB! WE HAVE NO WAY TO REFLASH BACK TO GB WITH THE LATEST LEAKS AND THE SOON TO BE OTA UPDATE!!!!!!
Only when we find an ICS FXZ will this be possible!
Now I can hear it now. Some might say at this point, "Well once I'm on ICS, I won't want to go back to Gingerbread." The point, my friend, is not WANTING to go back to GB, it is needing a way to fix your phone. I myself have a paperweight for an A2 for EXACTLY this reason. I was running the latest of the leaks (NOT the first, which we can go back with). I had made a couple of mods, as bootmenu was working for it, and I made a backup. Well, I flashed a mod, rebooted and BOOM. Bootloop. No biggie, I thought, I will just restore my backup. But apparently I had deleted my backup. I tried, with the help of Devs (whom will be named later) to FXZ back and quickly found that this was impossible to do at this point. Now I have a phone that is able to boot in FB, with no way of restoring it. Fastboot does us no good without a proper working FXZ to flash.
So upgrading to ICS at this point, is fine, but be warned, if you make just the littlest boo boo, you might have a paperweight on your hands. Myself, many of the other Senior Members, and many of the A2 developers are recommending to run the first leak, because it is the most stable and dependable as far as getting yourself out of a jam. Also, many of the the more stable leaks have been baked into the current ICS ROMS we have. Now once you are on the first leak, you will have no problems flashing these ROMS with the more stable versions on them, but you MUST be on the first leak beforehand!!!!! As always read carefully the install instructions from the developer and if you're unsure, ask a question in the ROM's thread before flashing!!!!
UDPATE 9/20/12 It seems as though Moto and AT&T are now releasing OTA updates to our leak! Remember the reasons as to why we are advising against them! IF YOU GET A MESSAGE TO UPDATE WHILE ON THE FIRST LEAK, COMPARE THE FIRMWARE INFO WITH THOSE LISTED IN THE THREAD BELOW BEFORE UPDATING!!!!!
THREAD WITH INFO ON OTHER ICS LEAKS AND WHY WE ARE ADVISING AGAINST THEM AT THIS POINT. Originally posted by alteredlikeness
The rest of this will mainly be references to threads as most questions have already been answered in other threads as I just felt we needed a place to consolidate all the info out there on this. Here goes...
In the following theads, PLEASE thank the OP's!
HOW DO I UPDATE TO ICS?
Other than the OTA method that has been trickling out at this point, I am ONLY going to refer you to the thread to get you onto the initial leak. Because at this point many of us see this is as the safest leak. As you have a way out. Because we want to do what is best for you and YOUR phone.
NOTE: The rest of these threads (unless otherwise specified) refer ONLY to the first leak, and to NOTHING ELSE!!!!
How to get your phone on ICS, and how to root it: Originally posted by Jimbridgman
Ok so now that you are comfortably running ICS and rooted.....
HOW DO I INSTALL A RECOVERY?
We currently have two recoveries for the first ICS leak. Both are very stable and work well, but are slightly different. Read each of the following threads for how to install and the differences between them.
BOOTMENU RECOVERY Originally posted and developed by lukensteinz and Whirleyes
SAFESTRAP RECOVERY Originally developed and posted by Recognized Developer Hashcode
And FOR PETE'S SAKE, now that you have a slick recovery working MAKE A BACKUP!. And then copy it and put one on your desktop!!!!
I MADE A MISTAKE, HOW DO I FXZ BACK?
You are ONLY going to be doing this if you somehow messed up a MOD, didn't make a backup, and now you are in a bootloop. REMEMBER, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE FIRST LEAK. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DID NOT READ THROUGH FAR ENOUGH AND BRICK YOUR PHONE. If you managed to try and FXZ back while NOT on the first leak, or your phone won't turn on or go into FB, then, well sorry mate, but you are HARD-BRICKED. But if you are on the first leak then the following should work.
HOW TO FXZ BACK TO GINGERBREAD FROM THE FIRST ICS LEAK Originally posted and developed by Jimbridgman
ROMS TO INSTALL BASED ON THE FIRST LEAK
NOTE: You must be on the first ICS leak in aforementioned post to properly install the following ROMS, unless otherwise noted by the devs! And as always read CAREFULLY the installation procedure as laid out by the developer!!!
ScV7 - ICSupercharged Originally developed and posted by rdavisct
De-odexed and De-bloated basic ROM Originally developed and posted by timmytim
ROMS THAT ARE STILL A WIP:
MIUI PORT FOR A2 V4 2.8.17 Originally developed and posted by rdavisct
CYANOGENMOD 10 - JELLYBEAN Originally posted and ported by wanggjghost with continued help and fixes by rdavisct and Jimbridgman
In closing, hopefully this will answer all your who's, what's, and how's of ICS on the A2. Please DO NOT post questions regarding the threads themselves here. Post those in the appropriate posted thread, as this is what this is for. TO KEEP THINGS ORGANIZED!!!!!
If I need to update the OP, or have left something out. Feel free to post it here.
Enjoy ICS! And remember! ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP!!!!!!!
Special thanks to the following: Jimbridgman, rdavisct, alteredlikeness, Apex_Strider, DX2Trip, Mtnlion and any others I left out.
One quick question what does bootloader, hard-brick and fastboot mean. JK
Thanks for the write up. I hope this saves alot of question's from being posted.
Sent from my MB865 on ICS
Good post man. Answered alot of my questions
Thanks for this, plenty of good information.
rdhoggattjr said:
One quick question what does bootloader, hard-brick and fastboot mean. JK
Thanks for the write up. I hope this saves alot of question's from being posted.
Sent from my MB865 on ICS
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Consider your bootloader a prison warden. Nothing happens unless the bootloader says so. Pretty much plain and simple really. It's the partition on your device, which initiates first. And it checks to make sure the OS is a legitimate one. Ultimate security. If it thinks everything is in order (after communicating with the kernel), it boots the OS. This is the security most devs have to work at, to allow installation of custom recovery and roms.
There are 2 types of "bricks". A hard and soft brick. Soft bricks you can usually recover from. A hard brick, well, it's not impossible, but difficult. Typically with a hard brick, your device is basically dead. No response, or stuck at the logo screen forever more. forever more. forever more...... Edgar Allen Poe. You always want to avoid a hard brick. In essence, your device becomes nothing more than a ....brick.
Fastboot, is a part of the Android SDK. It allows some types of files to be "flashed" to certain partitions of the device, without a need for a custom recovery. For example a boot.img (kernel for easier terms), a recovery image, and a few other image files. Of course depending on the Bootloader, depends on what fastboot capability you have.
Some devices, Devs have been able to re-write the Bootloader to enable fastboot when it wasn't there from the factory. See Iconia A500. By virtue of patching, and re-writing, the bootloader was stripped of all security and features added. But you can't do this with all bootloaders.
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Hey Bro I have an Ics ota now. Will that unroot the phone? If yes how do I root it back? And is there gonna b any problem if I update with root?
Sent from my stock rooted Atrix2!
If you are stock 2.3.6 rooted, then yes you will lose root.
As far as rooting ICS goes you should be able to root it with Jim's script from the thread I posted in the OP.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
Just a question out of the discussion but not of the thread. Why does ATT gets last the ICS OTA?? I see Cambodia and India got it already while ATT phones are still on leaks!!! Isnt this weird considering that ATT is the biggest Moto fan?!
how is the battery life on ics? better or less than GB???
V1P3R92 said:
Just a question out of the discussion but not of the thread. Why does ATT gets last the ICS OTA?? I see Cambodia and India got it already while ATT phones are still on leaks!!! Isnt this weird considering that ATT is the biggest Moto fan?!
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Ahem, Viper? Did you not read my post man? TRUST ME. You want to be on the leak.
hemanbond said:
how is the battery life on ics? better or less than GB???
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When I was on the leak, I personally was getting better battery life.
However, remember that battery life is all subjective. What might be good for me might not be others!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
and what about root checker?
Yes there is a "Root checker" however, it will not hinder your installation, but as far as long term issues? We have no idea as to what Motorola is going to do with this.
its obvious for voiding our warranty
hemanbond said:
its obvious for voiding our warranty
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If you're rooting/modding/theming/tweaking/overclocking/underclocking/changing voltages/editing build.prop/etc./etc./etc. haven't you already thrown caution to the wind in regards to your warranty?
If you are concerned about it, they (Apple) just released a new iToy, so all you have to do is pull it out of the box and use it.. as is... unless you 'jailbreak it', in which case, warranty worries wander back into the equation, right?
once started how do i stop the ota download
You don't. You can download it, and then NOT install it if you like. Once downloaded it will be in your cache folder.
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it said update failed and now its asking me to download again....wth
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downloading was so slow that it took me 4 hrs...damn...and now it failed and asking me to download again
hemanbond said:
it said update failed and now its asking me to download again....wth
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If update failed because of checksum error, downloading again won't be of help. Most likely you have changed a file that the update is trying to patch. Better you go back to stock 2.3.6 and then apply OTA.
Same happened with me as to the person above. Downloaded the update. I but it says update failed? Do I have to unroot or something?
Sent from my stock rooted Atrix2!