I'm suprised how little I've been able to find on fast charging the Touch Pro?
There is a mod where the battery.dll (or battdrvr.dll?) file can be replaced to trick the phone into thinking it is charging from the wall charger rather than the USB socket which can increase the current by nearly 3 times based on my testing, despite the usb limit!
The mod I'm referring to is the nuebattery one which is only available for CDMA versions and not as a CAB.
Could anyone shed any light on this, from what I've read the dll file limits the current in USB mode and all it takes is a change of a few bits to unlock the full 900mA limit, currently I get about 160mA via USB but when I shorted the data lines mimicing the AC charger I got 370mA charging current.
Thanks
If I need to fast-charge for whatever reason, I just shut the device down. I think it charges quickly via usb or a wall-charger when it's shut down, but I can't honestly say if that's the case.
What do you mean by "not as a cab"? Have you checked the SITE lately? Keeping in mind, I have yet to attempt to install the cabbed version but if that is all you were really looking for, it might prove beneficial to try installing it first. I've considered it once or twice but never made it to the actual implementation phase yet...
Though the more I think about it, the more I am tempted to install it on my testing device (raph100-GSM version)...
The only cabs's are nuePowerCPL which seems to imply it would only work with the older HTC Touch and Mogul, (I don't think this includes the usb mod anyway), and nueBattery for CDMA Touch pro 2 /Diamond which I would try if my device wasn't GSM. If you do try attepting to install it though please let me know the results.
I've tried usb charging with it turned off but I don't think it charges much faster also I'm trying to get a fast charge going as I have it in a USB dock sync'd.
I'd imagine someone somewhere will have ported it over to Touch pro GSM but I've searched for a good few hours online and haven't been able to find anything suggesting this.
So am I understanding this correctly; the file called "nuePowerCPL-152-v1.52-cab" found on the site does NOT work/is NOT compatible with our devices? Reason I ask is because I'm about to install it on my TP/RAPH100...
Additionally, I also see a battery driver available for the TP2/Diamond2, specifically for the GSM versions. I wonder what the difference is here...
Anyone would know where to put said .dll/battery.dll?
Weird, it (the program, which installs a shortcut to "start - settings - system") seems to actually "work" but for the life of me, I just don't see the difference. There again, I did just plug it in to a USB cable that I have connected to a wall adapter... :/
Ok, apparently I can't read.. I did see the cab and everything else but missed the part saying that it included a GSM compatable nuebattery - I thought that this cab was useless to what I was trying to do.
I've installed it along with the driver which states only Titan/Vogue but as expected it doesn't work, I'm still getting around 160mA reading.
battery.dll goes in the Windows folder but I don't have a battery.dll, I seem to have a batterydrvr instead. I would try renaming the battery.dll to this and pasting it in but I have a feeling I'll end up with a paper weight until I reflash, unless someone is brave enough to try. This was actually suggested in a thread on here but the discussion ended there.
The full current is allowed to flow when the data lines are shorted. The lines are shorted internally in the adapter, so yes any usb lead can work for "usb mode" and high current "AC mode".
I'm still looking to unlock high current mode for tough pro GSM ...
Need to figure out how to overwrite battdrvr.dll it won't replace it much less rename. Might need to be cooked in perhaps?
Hm is there a way of getting raw access to the files on the internal flash memory, perhaps from a bootable app on the memory card?
Actually, if this program/app/mod supposedly works with the TP2(among others), one would only need to figure out how or where to place the dll. Something tells me it isn't the windows directory; or else it would've worked (logic thinking here). Not saying it's impossible just thinking that if the file was available in this manner, one would think it would be a fairly painless process, right? Keep in mind, I've already copied the file (battery.dll) over to the windows directory with the program installed via cab and I still can't tell a difference. Am I missing something/over looking a step, perhaps?
Going to start over from a fresh flash and copy over the dll then install the cab and see if there is any difference.
The main thing I don't understand is why we don't have a battery.dll, it is a hidden file in the Windows folder according to lots of places and sounds like a critical part of WM6. Hidden or not if it existed though I wouldn't have just been able to paste battery.dll in without any conflict surley as it would still state another file with the same name existed.
I was thinking of emailing nue from the contact link to ask as like you said, there is no doccumentation for whatever reason. If you download Tbattery it shows you the current as +xxx (charging) or -xxx (discharging) so you can see if the driver is working
Bump c'mon I know others here must have something useful to contribute and would really like to get this mod working?
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The main thing I don't understand is why we don't have a battery.dll, it is a hidden file in the Windows folder according to lots of places and sounds like a critical part of WM6. Hidden or not if it existed though I wouldn't have just been able to paste battery.dll in without any conflict surley as it would still state another file with the same name existed.
I was thinking of emailing nue from the contact link to ask as like you said, there is no doccumentation for whatever reason. If you download Tbattery it shows you the current as +xxx (charging) or -xxx (discharging) so you can see if the driver is working
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Looking in a kitchen for the Fuze I see battdrvr.dll and not battery.dll
I think the problem was that there is no way to overwrite that file, less you cook it in. I also have no clue as to what the difference is between the two files. Without the censent of the developer of this driver, it would prove quite difficult to re-enineer a drive for the TP (since this was for the TP2, according to the site).
Ok, for anyone interested here is what I did in the end. I bought a £5 Expansys dock which is damn good for the money. I then took it to bits and added a double pole double throw switch.
I took the two data lines and soldered them in such a way that in one switch position the phone data lines would be shorted, allowing full charging current. In the other position the data lines from the phone are connected to those coming into the dock from the PC.
I'm pretty happy with the setup now, all that is required is a flick of a switch to put it in "fast charge" mode. I still don't get the full 900mA but get about 720 with a dead battery which is damn better than the 160 from USB.
If anyone wants any guidance doing this mod I'll be happy to help.
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Hi,
After a mounth of problem caused by my mini-usb connector, I weld it this morning. But, I cannot sync it by usb anymore. I have to sync it by bluetooth. Anyway do you think there is a possibility to upgrade it with an SD card or another solution?
I thank you.
Hi,
My first thoughts would be..
"how am I going to charge the battery",
pointless pursuing an upgrade in the circumstances?!
STI
I don't see charging being an issue, as he may very well have power even if not data running on his connector, and even if that's not the case, there's plenty standalone battery chargers on ebay. Not the perfect scenario, but grab a second battery if you don't already own one and it's suddenly way better than tossing you uni.
About the SD card ROM loading...
I've seen a few posts on it, but I reckon the SD image is always created by dumping the current loaded ROM.
So, I imagine you'll need someone else so make you an SD image of the ROM you need/want.
As for the actual dumping of the OS, I never did it, so I can't really help you there.
It's not about the uni, but here's this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=899768&postcount=8
Still, as I told you, I believe you'll need a third party to supply you with the ROM dump, and even then, be damn careful that you both have the some devices (i.e. both G3 or both G4) as it probably matters.
Take this as a hint in (what I believe is) the right direction. By no means I can guarantee that this is the only way to go about it.
Best of luck!
I have the same problem with my HTC prophet device...since i upgraded to wm6 , problem came when I activated Wm5torage
I can still charge it with my usb cable but nothing more...I`m looking to download an SD image backup from somebody
If somebody can help ...
I have the same problem, having replaced the socket it also just now charges and shows in windows as an unknown port. I have checked all the connection on the PDA motherboard and everything appears OK when measured with a meter. As windows recognises that there is a port there, it seems likely that the clock and data are available. If this is the case, it should be recognised. I can only assume that somehow the OS has become corrupt. This seems to be quite a common thing, and it would be nice if someone could throw some light on why this happens.
If the clock and data are available, meaning that the two computers can communicate, you should be able to reflash the device, since Bootloader mode circumvents the OS, and the RUU has it's own drivers for communicating with the device, evidenced by the fact that it shuts down ActiveSync to avoid interference.
Try putting the device into bootloader, then initiating a flash. If there's something, anything, wrong with the dataport, the RUU will be unable to flash. If the ROM Upload starts, the it will probably finish too without a hitch. And you'll have a new working Uni.
Also, it is not possible to flash via SD card, since the SD port can only be used with the appropirate drivers loaded, and that's done by the OS. Flashing is done while in bootloader mode, which circumvents all of the OS, and uses a separately stored on board program to access the main ROM, screen and dataport.
It is possible to flash a new Rom via the SD Card.
It does however require another device to dump the image onto the SD Card first.
Search the forum and you will find specific details on the procedure.
I believe Midget made a post about the process not so long ago.
Also could all peeps please keep these sort of issues in the upgrading section, you are more likely to get better answers there.
This forum is meant to be purely for WM6 on the Universal.
Cheers,
Beasty
Yep, here is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1822399&postcount=2
Whoops sorry am getting a little off topic here. Anyway boot load will not work so port is probably faulty. Got a version of WM6 on it anyway, so will use as is.
I recall when I first got my G1, all I had to do to connect it to the computer was plug it in. Since RC29, I've had to click "mount" every time, which I know was an intentional change Google made. Why did they make this change, and is there any way to create an auto-mounting app?
Don't quote me on this, but logically this makes sense to me:
If you were to leave the phone charging via USB (with automount) and you had a virus/spyware on the computer... it would/could easily transfer over to the SD card and possibly mess up the phone's firmware.
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Don't quote me on this, but logically this makes sense to me:
If you were to leave the phone charging via USB (with automount) and you had a virus/spyware on the computer... it would/could easily transfer over to the SD card and possibly mess up the phone's firmware.
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I can see the thought process in that... however, and I'm not certain, but I believe in order for that to happen, they would have to write a virus specificaly for an android phone. What I mean by that is a windows virus you would get from say a porno website for example would not to anything to the phone. If that's the case then that's a pretty farfetched theory. Anyone out there who can prove us wrong? Or have there own theroies lol?
Either way, it'd be nice to have the option to auto-mount. If you're willing to take the risk, then you should be able to check a box, and if not, you can leave that box unchecked.
I think it's because it won't let you access the card from the phone while it's mounted.
I'd have to agree with mastaworm, as the card can't be used by the phone when it's mounted you might just be charging via usb with some apps accessing the sd card and suddenly it's unmounted from the phone. I can see that it'd be nice to have an option to automount, though.
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I'd have to agree with mastaworm, as the card can't be used by the phone when it's mounted you might just be charging via usb with some apps accessing the sd card and suddenly it's unmounted from the phone. I can see that it'd be nice to have an option to automount, though.
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I definitely see how this could be a problem for some; I personally only use my USB when transferring files and such, not for charging. So, the option would be very nice, since people have different preferences.
What's so frustrating is that I recall auto-mount being present way back in October. I don't believe there was an option to turn it on or off, but if it is possible to have on, why not give the user that option?
i do believe RC28 or 29, can't remember which, had this enabled. along with the really big battery charging icon. i well miss those
i know the big battery images are still in the drawable folder so i'm guessing all it would take would be a change in an XML somewhere, probably the same for auto-mount too.
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i do believe RC28 or 29, can't remember which, had this enabled. along with the really big battery charging icon. i well miss those
i know the big battery images are still in the drawable folder so i'm guessing all it would take would be a change in an XML somewhere, probably the same for auto-mount too.
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Totally forgot about that big battery icon.
I liked that.
i haven't bothered to test this yet, and have been watching this thread since you created it and was really hoping akapoor would through in what i found the other day. there is an option if you use anycut to auto-mount. download and install anycut and set up a new shortcut to sd card, it's under activities in the anycut menu. after doing that go back to the desktop and click on said shortcut and enable usb mass storage. like i said i haven't tested it yet, and i use linux so i don't know what it will do in windows but give it a shot. the worst that can happen is it doesn't work. here's the link to the instructions i found
http:/rivviepop.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/mount-your-g1-android-sd-card-automatically-rc29-rc30/
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i haven't bothered to test this yet, and have been watching this thread since you created it and was really hoping akapoor would through in what i found the other day. there is an option if you use anycut to auto-mount. download and install anycut and set up a new shortcut to sd card, it's under activities in the anycut menu. after doing that go back to the desktop and click on said shortcut and enable usb mass storage. like i said i haven't tested it yet, and i use linux so i don't know what it will do in windows but give it a shot. the worst that can happen is it doesn't work. here's the link to the instructions i found
http:/rivviepop.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/mount-your-g1-android-sd-card-automatically-rc29-rc30/
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Nope, doesn't seem to be working on my Windows XP. Has anyone had success with this method?
Hi, first time poster hoping for some help with my first encounter with Red Eye at bootup. I have a stock phone. I don't really care about the phone but my wife really wants the pictures off it. It doesn't have an SD card or cloud backup and the pictures are on internal memory. I am able to get into the boot options (like AP fastboot) but I do not know what the options will do for me exactly. Can I choose an option that may fix the phone but will not wipe the memory? Is there any possiblity a PC can see the phone at the Red Eye screen if I connect with USB(would a certified Verizon data cable help?) Would actually opening the phone and doing some sort of mod get me any closer to retrieving pictures? I am a complete novice at this kind of thing and only have experience with PC hardware and software and the like.
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Hi, first time poster hoping for some help with my first encounter with Red Eye at bootup. I have a stock phone. I don't really care about the phone but my wife really wants the pictures off it. It doesn't have an SD card or cloud backup and the pictures are on internal memory. I am able to get into the boot options (like AP fastboot) but I do not know what the options will do for me exactly. Can I choose an option that may fix the phone but will not wipe the memory? Is there any possiblity a PC can see the phone at the Red Eye screen if I connect with USB(would a certified Verizon data cable help?) Would actually opening the phone and doing some sort of mod get me any closer to retrieving pictures? I am a complete novice at this kind of thing and only have experience with PC hardware and software and the like.
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none of those options will be of any direct help, however fastboot may be used to try and fix it later.
first,
- do you know what caused it to become like this?
- is it bootloader unlocked? if you dont know what that is, there will be some dialogue on the fastboot screen. status code=0 locked or similar.
- do you know what version it was on? if you dont know, did you always update when available? would likely mean latest version.
- do you have a windows pc available, with a usb 2 port, and a cable to connect the phone to it?
edit,
ultimately, this is where we are headed, if you want to take a look at it. specifically the "rsd flasher". i was going to go another route, but this is probably a more direct option.
the rsd flasher will take you to another site, and is made by samuri. im not real familiar with his tool, but know its good. just will save me time in having you tear the fxz apart and flash certain things.
**note, im not sure if this phone was made for multiple carriers, this will only be relevant when getting the correct fxz file. samuri will know more about this than i would.
bweN diorD said:
none of those options will be of any direct help, however fastboot may be used to try and fix it later.
first,
- do you know what caused it to become like this?
- is it bootloader unlocked? if you dont know what that is, there will be some dialogue on the fastboot screen. status code=0 locked or similar.
- do you know what version it was on? if you dont know, did you always update when available? would likely mean latest version.
- do you have a windows pc available, with a usb 2 port, and a cable to connect the phone to it?
edit,
ultimately, this is where we are headed, if you want to take a look at it. specifically the "rsd flasher". i was going to go another route, but this is probably a more direct option.
the rsd flasher will take you to another site, and is made by samuri. im not real familiar with his tool, but know its good. just will save me time in having you tear the fxz apart and flash certain things.
**note, im not sure if this phone was made for multiple carriers, this will only be relevant when getting the correct fxz file. samuri will know more about this than i would.
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First off, thanks your reply! I've been to other sites that were not helpful even to this point! To answer your questions:
bweN diorD said:
- do you know what caused it to become like this?
- is it bootloader unlocked? if you dont know what that is, there will be some dialogue on the fastboot screen. status code=0 locked or similar.
- do you know what version it was on? if you dont know, did you always update when available? would likely mean latest version.
- do you have a windows pc available, with a usb 2 port, and a cable to connect the phone to it?
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Not exactly sure what happen to the phone. My wife tells me one minute it was charged at 26% and working fine, the next moment it was 'dead'.
It is locked with a status of 0
My Wife says if the phone had automated updates(if stock phone is configured that way) then yes she has all the updates. If updates require manual intervention then it's probably not updated.
Yes, I have a Windows PC with 2 USB ports and a generic data cable that fits the phone.
I'm looking at the post you linked too now... Thanks again for your help!
GLE3 said:
First off, thanks your reply! I've been to other sites that were not helpful even to this point! To answer your questions:
Not exactly sure what happen to the phone. My wife tells me one minute it was charged at 26% and working fine, the next moment it was 'dead'.
It is locked with a status of 0
My Wife says if the phone had automated updates(if stock phone is configured that way) then yes she has all the updates. If updates require manual intervention then it's probably not updated.
Yes, I have a Windows PC with 2 USB ports and a generic data cable that fits the phone.
I'm looking at the post you linked too now... Thanks again for your help!
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no problem
its likely your phone is fully updated, but since we arent 100% sure, its going to be best to go with the most current file. reason being, because you are locked, you can only flash = or forward. if you try to flash back, it will either not work, or bootloop. usually not work.
it would probably be best if you continued this in @SamuriHL's thread for the rsd flasher. he is very helpful, will likely be able to quickly point you to the most current file, and will be able to answer any questions about the tool where i wouldnt.
Ok, so I have someone's Kyocera Kona S2151 flip phone. Now when I plug it into my pc in device manager there shows two "modems" and a serial port without a driver. Even after installing the specific driver for this phone from the Kyocera website it still says there is no driver. I tried to manually select the driver from the folder that was created during the install, not a single one of the 6 worked. Now all of this might even be a moot point as I don't even know if this device will allow me to pull the pictures off of it using a USB cable attached to a pc and everything on the web says I should be able to but there's also a Kona android smart version. I also can't find anything that says I can't either lol. Now I would Bluetooth but there are no options for sending photos via Bluetooth and whats worse is the antennae for the cell service is going out so it won't stay connected to the tower (I assume its the antennae, I'm not gonna try and fix something this old, also its sprint which just got absorbed by Tmobile which could also be the issue bc its pre sim card).
So, in summary, I am trying to retrieve the photos. You can't Bluetooth them, there's no SD card slot, I can't text or email them due to lack of wifi and cell service issues, Which leads to the only option left, PC USB transfer but I can't get that working either due to what I am hoping is simply driver issues. If I need to use an older Operating system that's fine I have another pc here I can mess with to my heart's desire.
I know this isn't android, rooting, modding, custom os, related but this forum is home to some of the smartest people, it's where I come to get all my instructions and files for phones. if anyone could help I'm hoping it's the community here.
Oops, just saw the "don't post questions here" my bad... sry
Update, I installed xp on an older pc I had sitting around. ALL drivers worked fine BUT it appears the only functionality this phone would have for a pc is to act as a modem. There doesn't seem to be ANY functionality in the way of file browsing or retrieving media. Furthermore, this specific phone lacks media sharing over any other connection aside from the mobile network. So if anyone has one of these old phones and it no longer has service/can no longer connect to towers your only option is going to be a data retrieval company.
Bummer, some older phones are very limited when it comes to retrieval. cheers
Ok, so I have someone's Kyocera Kona S2151 flip phone. Now when I plug it into my pc in device manager there shows two "modems" and a serial port without a driver. Even after installing the specific driver for this phone from the Kyocera website it still says there is no driver. I tried to manually select the driver from the folder that was created during the install, not a single one of the 6 worked. Now all of this might even be a moot point as I don't even know if this device will allow me to pull the pictures off of it using a USB cable attached to a pc and everything on the web says I should be able to but there's also a Kona android smart version. I also can't find anything that says I can't either lol. Now I would Bluetooth but there are no options for sending photos via Bluetooth and whats worse is the antennae for the cell service is going out so it won't stay connected to the tower (I assume its the antennae, I'm not gonna try and fix something this old, also its sprint which just got absorbed by Tmobile which could also be the issue bc its pre sim card).
So, in summary, I am trying to retrieve the photos. You can't Bluetooth them, there's no SD card slot, I can't text or email them due to lack of wifi and cell service issues, Which leads to the only option left, PC USB transfer but I can't get that working either due to what I am hoping is simply driver issues. If I need to use an older Operating system that's fine I have another pc here I can mess with to my heart's desire.
I know this isn't android, rooting, modding, custom os, related but this forum is home to some of the smartest people, it's where I come to get all my instructions and files for phones. if anyone could help I'm hoping it's the community here.
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Ok, so I have someone's Kyocera Kona S2151 flip phone. Now when I plug it into my pc in device manager there shows two "modems" and a serial port without a driver. Even after installing the specific driver for this phone from the Kyocera website it still says there is no driver. I tried to manually select the driver from the folder that was created during the install, not a single one of the 6 worked. Now all of this might even be a moot point as I don't even know if this device will allow me to pull the pictures off of it using a USB cable attached to a pc and everything on the web says I should be able to but there's also a Kona android smart version. I also can't find anything that says I can't either lol. Now I would Bluetooth but there are no options for sending photos via Bluetooth and whats worse is the antennae for the cell service is going out so it won't stay connected to the tower (I assume its the antennae, I'm not gonna try and fix something this old, also its sprint which just got absorbed by Tmobile which could also be the issue bc its pre sim card).
So, in summary, I am trying to retrieve the photos. You can't Bluetooth them, there's no SD card slot, I can't text or email them due to lack of wifi and cell service issues, Which leads to the only option left, PC USB transfer but I can't get that working either due to what I am hoping is simply driver issues. If I need to use an older Operating system that's fine I have another pc here I can mess with to my heart's desire.
I know this isn't android, rooting, modding, custom os, related but this forum is home to some of the smartest people, it's where I come to get all my instructions and files for phones. if anyone could help I'm hoping it's the community here.
**Reposted here bc I posted in the wrong area earlier.**
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It seems that now the only way is to have the driver work and then use PC USB transfer. In addition to the driver from the Kyocera website, have you tried the Google Android USB Driver for Windows? It's available on the Android Developer website. Have a try. Good luck to you.
Flip phone, not an anroid