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Well, I saw a Rogers user posting his comments after a week of use so I figured I'd post some opinion as well, especially since I disagree with several of his opinions.
First, I've noticed the wi-fi issue as well. As with some other posters my router is not known to be super reliable, so that could have some impact. Also, it seems that some folks are having success switching to G instead of N and that may also help as I believe I am on G at work and I haven't had any issue with wi-fi at work. Hopefully this can be fixed with a software update.
I first reported some disappointment with the warm hue of the screen, and either it is growing on me or it is burning in a little bit and the tans, greens, and oranges are starting to look better. The screen as a whole looks fantastic. Several people have remarked how it looks like a sticker on the phone or like the image is sitting on top of the glass. The resolution is fantastic and everything looks crisp vibrant. Reds, blues, and yellows look fine too. White seems pretty white to me. When comparing a white screen on the HOX to an AMOLED screen the HOX looks white and the AMOLED looks blue.
Battery life is about what I was expecting and seems to be on-par with the international version. I've not had any trouble making it from 8AM to 11PM even with pretty heavy usage. It's not as good as my Captivate on AOKP which could make it ~30 hrs under my normal usage which is relatively light. Because the HOX is such a great phone and it's brand new I've been using it a lot more so the most I think I've gotten is 18 or 19 hours which most people would consider fantastic in consideration of the usage.
Camera is by no means average and it absolutely smokes the iPhone 4S. I took some test shots with my wife's iPhone and the HOX just blows it away. The flash is much better, but even in low light without the flash the HOX looks better, has less grain to the photos and generally focuses better and has better color reproduction. The speed of the camera is incredible and using the burst mode to capture a moment is a stroke of genius if you have a dog or a kid that you want to take a pic of them doing something cute.
I've not had any status bar icon issues or in call volume adjustment.
My biggest complaint is not being able to turn off LTE since I'm not in an LTE area. I tried using a different APN and I didn't notice any difference and it didn't improve my battery life at all. I only had the new APN for ~2 days but I felt I may have been getting worse battery life, but certainly wasn't getting better battery life so I just went back to the stock APN.
I guess the Rogers poster was coming from an iPhone and remarked on a slight lag moving between homescreens. This is exagerated to say the least. This phone with sense 4.0 is the fastest UI I've seen on an android phone and the only phone that is more fluid is the iphone and that is due to apple putting realtime priority on UI rendering computations while Android puts industry standard normal priority on rendering. No matter how good the code is, no matter how fast the processor is, it's just never going to look like the iphone because it's never going to have realtime priority. That said, this phone responds instantly to all touches in virtually all parts of the phone. The only times I've seen lag is either app related or network related. It's a great user experience.
Another concern I saw in some other threads that I completely agree with is that the white smudges easily. In addition, the polycarbonate shell may be very durable in that it protects the phone, but it's basically the same material as a LEGO and as such can be dented with a drop as I've unfortunately experienced already. As far as the smudging the phone wipes back to a bright white easily, but probably needs to be cleaned every few days to keep it bright white and not getting dull. The white looks fantastic, best looking white phone out there, but I'd have to reluctantly recommend the grey if you aren't going to use a case in order to hide some dirt and dings more easily.
Overall, this is a fantastic phone. HTC has lived up to the hype and produced THE top android the device out right now. If you want the best in basically every area, you want an HOX right now, and it doesn't look like Samsung is going to beat it and it's going to take quite some time for the S3 to come to the US. If you've got an ATT upgrade in the next 2 months, you'd be crazy not to drop it on the HOX.
Hey since your on the AT & T version and you don't have the setting to turn LTE off. Type *#*#4636#*#* go to phone information and you can switch it to GSM/HSPA only. Let me know if that works for you!
My two biggest concerns right now are the wi-fi performance (which seems to be real and potentially fixed with a software update) and the battery life. In a few days we should see professional reviews for the AT&T model that will be able to compare the international and LTE editions under equal usage.
I know the white is harder to keep clean but I really prefer the look of it over the grey. Maybe I'd just make the effort to keep it clean.
I also think the camera lens is an issue with respect to scratches. I don't plan on using a case 95% of the time, so I'd have to find a DIY way to cover said lens while not in use. (I was thinking a small piece of electrical tape or something along those lines.)
I'm also going to wait until the WWDC keynote next month to see what Apple has in store for iOS 6.
If the wi-fi issue can get settled, battery life is solid while using LTE, iOS 6 isn't leaps and bounds better than iOS 5, then I'll probably make the jump. Some things to line up first though.
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Camera is by no means average and it absolutely smokes the iPhone 4S. I took some test shots with my wife's iPhone and the HOX just blows it away. The flash is much better, but even in low light without the flash the HOX looks better, has less grain to the photos and generally focuses better and has better color reproduction. The speed of the camera is incredible and using the burst mode to capture a moment is a stroke of genius if you have a dog or a kid that you want to take a pic of them doing something cute.
I've not had any status bar icon issues or in call volume adjustment.
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I did some more testing with the camera and no doubt it is able to create some fairly high quality shots. I just find the camera experience a bit easier overall with the i4s. We have matte grey walls at home and for some reason they always show up weird and distorted, I'll take a pic after work tonight and post it to show you what I mean.. I'll also post a comparison pic off the iPhone camera.
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Hey since your on the AT & T version and you don't have the setting to turn LTE off. Type *#*#4636#*#* go to phone information and you can switch it to GSM/HSPA only. Let me know if that works for you!
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Tried this before and posted results in my first thread about it. Doesn't work.
Odd question, can you do time lapse videos? I know this is an ICS thing, just wondering if HTC left it in?
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Odd question, can you do time lapse videos? I know this is an ICS thing, just wondering if HTC left it in?
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I don't have the phone yet but i remember from reading a review from neowin that they left the time lapse feature out.
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My two biggest concerns right now are the wi-fi performance (which seems to be real and potentially fixed with a software update) and the battery life. In a few days we should see professional reviews for the AT&T model that will be able to compare the international and LTE editions under equal usage.
I know the white is harder to keep clean but I really prefer the look of it over the grey. Maybe I'd just make the effort to keep it clean.
I also think the camera lens is an issue with respect to scratches. I don't plan on using a case 95% of the time, so I'd have to find a DIY way to cover said lens while not in use. (I was thinking a small piece of electrical tape or something along those lines.)
I'm also going to wait until the WWDC keynote next month to see what Apple has in store for iOS 6.
If the wi-fi issue can get settled, battery life is solid while using LTE, iOS 6 isn't leaps and bounds better than iOS 5, then I'll probably make the jump. Some things to line up first though.
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I know a lot of user's are concerned about getting the white version dirty, eBay has some clear gel cases for 2$, figured I'd share since a clear case won't hide the beauty of this device
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rambo8987 said:
I know a lot of user's are concerned about getting the white version dirty, eBay has some clear gel cases for 2$, figured I'd share since a clear case won't hide the beauty of this device
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No clue if I'll end up getting the One X, but if I do, I'm only going to use a case when necessary (working around the house, etc). Love the way that polycarbonate feels in my hand. Camera lens needs to be covered with something though.
Has anyone messed with the APN settings and noticed a difference in battery life. You definitely can force HSPA/+.
I switched to T-Mo to get this phone because VZW pissed me off by releasing their bastardized version. I love the look and feel of the Z3. I love the water resistance. The screen is amazing. The interface is unobtrusive and actually adds some useful features on top of stock Android. All of that said, I have two major disappointments:
1. The camera. I was expecting a stellar camera experience. I can honestly say that the camera is one of the worst I've used on any phone in the past year. I have 10+ different smartphones, as I have to test them with software at work. Of all the flagship Android devices released this year, this is the worst camera experience I've had. I'm so disappointed, because I was really looking for a phone that would keep me from carrying an iPhone 6 around just for the camera. I'm sick of carrying two phones. I'm not trying to complain, rather ask if someone has any ideas to get better pictures out of this camera? It does just fine with anything that is standing still, but trying to take pics of a kid or animal in motion, even in decent light, seems like a losing battle.
2. The vibration motor is SO LOUD. Is this just me? Did I get a defective one? It's so loud that if it's sitting on the carpet two rooms away I can hear it vibrate. It kind of defeats the purpose of putting it into silent (vibrate) mode, because everyone sitting in a large conference room can hear it vibrate in my pocket.
Any feedback or suggestions on these two issues would be appreciated.
The camera works better once you go in manual mode and play with some settings there. As for your motor, my first Z3 was incredibly loud as well, and I exchanged it and this one I have now is much better. My other gripe is typing and not registering input... I've tried different keyboards with no luck.
I haven't had any of those problems. My Z3 catches every touch and the motor sounds normal to me.
Can't say I've ever known iphone cameras to be any good to be fair but the Z3 camera is one of the worst.
As for the vibration motor, mine is very quiet and not very powerful.
My keyboard is awful too and no keyboards fix it.
Auto mode for camera is not great, hopefully fixed in Lillipop update, but on manual it takes pretty great pics.
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Auto mode for camera is not great, hopefully fixed in Lillipop update, but on manual it takes pretty great pics.
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I'm going to go back to T-Mo today and compare my vibration to the display model. I think there's something wrong there. As for the camera, I've been diving into the manual settings. Sure, with 10-15 seconds of setting up a shot with all the right settings, it can take decent pictures. That said, I can pull out the 6 Plus in full auto and snap something just as good, if not better, almost every time. With a kid and pets, it's all about being able to pull off spontaneous shots without fiddling with settings for 10 seconds. By then, the moment has passed. It's super frustrating.
I'm strongly considering exchanging for a Note 4. The Z3 is just so gorgeous, but I think the camera is a deal breaker for me. As someone who has had every variant of Sony's excellent RX-100 line, it's disappointing to see such a poor photo experience on a phone that should be incredible. This camera ticks every check box and should be an amazing performer.
For any of you with a laggy keyboard try uninstalling the last Google Search update and reinstalling. That fixed mine.
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I'm going to go back to T-Mo today and compare my vibration to the display model. I think there's something wrong there. As for the camera, I've been diving into the manual settings. Sure, with 10-15 seconds of setting up a shot with all the right settings, it can take decent pictures. That said, I can pull out the 6 Plus in full auto and snap something just as good, if not better, almost every time. With a kid and pets, it's all about being able to pull off spontaneous shots without fiddling with settings for 10 seconds. By then, the moment has passed. It's super frustrating.
I'm strongly considering exchanging for a Note 4. The Z3 is just so gorgeous, but I think the camera is a deal breaker for me. As someone who has had every variant of Sony's excellent RX-100 line, it's disappointing to see such a poor photo experience on a phone that should be incredible. This camera ticks every check box and should be an amazing performer.
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Or you could keep your z3 and buy a sony qx100. You will have photos at rx100 quality from you phone...
Go to settings, language and keyboard, click the tools icon on the keyboard you are using, scroll down to sound and vibrate, vibration intensity
See if that also fixes the vibrate mode in general
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Or you could keep your z3 and buy a sony qx100. You will have photos at rx100 quality from you phone...
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Lol
Lol ? You have no ideea what are you talking about...Read more before post something
Is there a way to disable Selfie [Front Facing] Camera because the amount of times I swipe to get to Pro or Panorama and end up in Selfie mode is getting beyond ridiculous!
As a professional Photographer there are times we need to get the Camera out in an instant, else to miss that all important shot.
I find it utterly stupid the way you swipe is so closely similar to either brings you from Auto to Pro or bring up Selfie mode.
It is almost equally frustrating to try and focus a subject in Auto Camera only to toggle Brightness slider, but that's another subject…
The Phone Company said:
As a professional Photographer
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Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion. They also tend to offer crazy long optical zooms, as well.
Anyway, looking through the settings myself, I don't see any option to do this. At least not natively. There's always third party camera apps like Open Camera than you can try out and see if that helps. Double-tapping the power button to fire up the camera app hasn't been fast enough? Or is it just an issue of what your last camera setting might have been that's causing the real issue?
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Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion. They also tend to offer crazy long optical zooms, as well.
Anyway, looking through the settings myself, I don't see any option to do this. At least not natively. There's always third party camera apps like Open Camera than you can try out and see if that helps. Double-tapping the power button to fire up the camera app hasn't been fast enough? Or is it just an issue of what your last camera setting might have been that's causing the real issue?
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This isn't a debate, I simply want to be able to use the in-built Camera, in Pro Mode, selecting Manual Focus/Shutter Speed/ISO using their sliders WITHOUT "accidentally" going to 'Selfie' camera.
How do I disable Selfie?
That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. Thank you.
Are you really not able to swipe sideways without swiping up or down?
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LoL :laugh: some ppl just have to go on like that instead of just saying nothing if they can't help.
Maybe something in ADB shell can help.
I don't think you can turn it off. You may have to install another camera app and use it with your phone rather than using the default camera.
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I stumbled across this site also looking to disable selfie mode. I DESPISE it and it's always getting in my way. To the idiots responding negatively, those are the douche bags taking pictures of themselves.
Re: to the guy condescendingly questioning why somebody would not use an actual dedicated camera. You may not one depending on what your photograhing. Often times you can get equally good results with lighting and a newer model cell phone in pro-mode. I personally have a decent DSLR and always use my phone out of pure convenience. Though with that said, if i was a photographer working with clients, i would never show up with only a cell phone.
If some Samsung suits ever read this, selfie mode sucks and is one of the most ridiculous and annoying features i have ever seen on a phone.
I fully agree that this is an annoyance, along with the brightness slider getting in the way when attempting to focus in that area of the screen. And the flash popout menu should simply be a toggle button in my view.
That said, there may be a couple of uses for these sticks that some people use to facilitate their grandstanding. I better not get into that, though.
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Is there a way to disable Selfie [Front Facing] Camera because the amount of times I swipe to get to Pro or Panorama and end up in Selfie mode is getting beyond ridiculous!
As a professional Photographer there are times we need to get the Camera out in an instant, else to miss that all important shot.
It is almost equally frustrating to try and focus a subject in Auto Camera only to toggle Brightness slider, but that's another subject…
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in short, yes. you can disable the FFC, but it wont help. Matter of fact itll probably mess everything up worse than you think. In order to disable it, youd have to mess with the kernel, as there is no toggle for the FFC. In addition, the app itself will always look for the FFC and offer you its respective options from within the app such as it being in the list of camera modes, which sounds like your ACTUAL problem. So, the long answer is no, not really. Not with the stock camera app anyways
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Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion.
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Have you ever worked with a DSLR? unless you already have it out and ready, there is no capturing of the moment with those. Point and shoots too. They have to boot every time you turn them on which takes time and causes people to miss the shot they wanted.
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This isn't a debate, I simply want to be able to use the in-built Camera, in Pro Mode, selecting Manual Focus/Shutter Speed/ISO using their sliders WITHOUT "accidentally" going to 'Selfie' camera.
How do I disable Selfie?
That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. Thank you.
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i cant begin to describe how incorrect this is. this is the internet, if you ask a question on it, youll perhaps get a barrage of answers, some of them you might find useful, others not, but you dont get to decide what is a debate and what isnt. If youre not a moderator of this forum and no wrongdoings have occurred, the "debate" will be allowed.
btw, to answer your question, reassign the bixby button to launch the camera. My S9 launches the camera on bixby press and is ready to take a picture in a second
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Have you ever worked with a DSLR? unless you already have it out and ready, there is no capturing of the moment with those. Point and shoots too. They have to boot every time you turn them on which takes time and causes people to miss the shot they wanted.
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Yup. Sure have. Several different kinds. Unless you already have anything out and ready, smartphone, DSLR, P&S, Walgreens disposable camera, there is no capturing of the moment (if it's something faster than you getting the cam ready).
So, yes. I have and it's not hard. Also, as you may already know, there's a wide range of quality between different cameras and with that various levels of speeds with their capturing abilities. Somehow, some cameras find a way to capture fast moments. I know, right? It's crazy. Like I said before, it depends on you. How you prepare. What you are doing. Where you are going. Event? You should be prepared? Random occurrence? Smartphone. I mean, it seems easy enough to me.
But that's just me, I guess.
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Yup. Sure have. Several different kinds. Unless you already have anything out and ready, smartphone, DSLR, P&S, Walgreens disposable camera, there is no capturing of the moment (if it's something faster than you getting the cam ready).
So, yes. I have and it's not hard. Also, as you may already know, there's a wide range of quality between different cameras and with that various levels of speeds with their capturing abilities. Somehow, some cameras find a way to capture fast moments. I know, right? It's crazy. Like I said before, it depends on you. How you prepare. What you are doing. Where you are going. Event? You should be prepared? Random occurrence? Smartphone. I mean, it seems easy enough to me.
But that's just me, I guess.
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to quote yourself from your previous post...............
"Wouldn't you have dedicated tools for whatever job you might be at? Like, if you're anticipating needing to capture important images depending on where you are wouldn't you have your dedicated camera on you and not be relying on a smartphone camera?
Personally, I see our phones as phones first, media players second and cameras third. Compact advanced P&S are always better than what our phone's camera can do, anyway. At least that's just my opinion."
you spoke of hardware in that post and preparedness in this last one. because theyre the exact same thing. "I know, right? its crazy"
of course it depends on you, thats the point
also, not everyone who owns a DSLR, P&S, film cam etc etc etc has them out while a moment you want to get a pic of occurs, what do you reach for? the moment is obviously not going to last long and you have your phone and a DSLR. You just had your DSLR out and taking pics of far away buildings, so you have a 70/200 mm lens on it and the exposure is long for the same reason. Oh, forgot to mention that the thing youre wanting to take a pic of is 15 ft from you and moving. Now what? Your phone is still just a phone? and i should have been "prepared" for this somehow?
oh oh oh, almost forgot. I love how you say "personally, i see our phones as blah blah" Nobody asked you what your opinion on how to use their phone. Best part is how you got defensive after having the durr pointed out on your first post in this thread.
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oh oh oh, almost forgot. I love how you say "personally, i see our phones as blah blah" Nobody asked you what your opinion on how to use their phone. Best part is how you got defensive after having the durr pointed out on your first post in this thread.
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I'm sorry my innocuous opinion got so deep under your skin. My fault. I didn't know how sensitive you were.
All the best, my friend. Take absolute care.
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I'm sorry my innocuous opinion got so deep under your skin. My fault. I didn't know how sensitive you were.
All the best, my friend. Take absolute care.
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You got me man. Boy do I feel sheepish. Troll on trollboy
Im a Home Inspector, I use my Samsung to run my report programs, bluetooth my moisture meters, fly the drone and take photos. I do not want the selfie feature and would love to turn it off. Hell, I barely use the phone feature on my Samsung.
Shoumard said:
Im a Home Inspector, I use my Samsung to run my report programs, bluetooth my moisture meters, fly the drone and take photos. I do not want the selfie feature and would love to turn it off. Hell, I barely use the phone feature on my Samsung.
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might be best putting a piece of tape over the aperture. youll likely need root to do this, but by now im betting that someone made a magisk module to disable the cameras. If youre still wanting to do this, id look at magisk nowadays. in yesteryear, it was a very specific thing, but nowadays i bet something thatll get ya where you need to be is out there. i just dont mess with root enough anymore to be knowledgeable about it.
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This isn't a debate, I simply want to be able to use the in-built Camera, in Pro Mode, selecting Manual Focus/Shutter Speed/ISO using their sliders WITHOUT "accidentally" going to 'Selfie' camera.
How do I disable Selfie?
That is all. Nothing more. Nothing less. Thank you.
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I discovered this problem whenever I try to close the camera app by swiping up--forgetting that the phone has different gestures than my old phone. I'm not sure why there is such an urgent need for a selfie, such that it has it's own gesture. Many people put tape over the selfie camera, so being able to disable it makes more sense than giving it its own gesture.
BTW, not to fan the flames, but the phone makers go through a lot of effort to market their phone cameras as high enough quality to be used by pros, so I'm not sure what prompted 'his' lecture about when to use a phone camera and when not to use a phone camera.
Here's something odd I have noticed with the screen.
Whenever I use the phone in direct sunlight or in bright lighting, the contrast of the screen will rise to oddly high levels. While having black colours on the screen I can clearly notice this contrast change. I've turned off auto brightness, but I have no idea how I could disable this "auto contrast" function.
Is this something Sony has purposely done to help the screens readability in bright lighting or is there something wrong with my device? Have you guys experienced this?
This has been happening on my Z3+ and Z5 Premium and I hate how it looks! Lux use to fix it but doesn't seem to work on this phone
Yup even I have this issue I don't understand why it happens
That's Qualcomms Assertive Display.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2...ay-power-efficient-technology-thats-easy-eyes
It works as intended.
so is there a way to disable this feature?
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so is there a way to disable this feature?
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Nope.
I had this same issue with my Z4 tablet till I flashed linage os. When in direct sunlight if I press over the light sensor it goes away and the brightness still stays high.
gawd, i thought i was the only one. so it's not an issue with the phone then? was almost ready to return my unit.
It's just another piece of technological fluff being thrust on us without our permission to supposedly fill a need that doesn't exist!
Quite frankly I am getting sick-and-tired of paying major $$$$ for a tool that may stop working as expected ( and needed ) just because of the latest update/patch. Now we are getting buggy crap built into the hardware itself! This has to STOP!
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It's just another piece of technological fluff being thrust on us without our permission to supposedly fill a need that doesn't exist!
Quite frankly I am getting sick-and-tired of paying major $$$$ for a tool that may stop working as expected ( and needed ) just because of the latest update/patch. Now we are getting buggy crap built into the hardware itself! This has to STOP!
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It's not a bug though, and works very well...
The whole idea is to max out the brightness, and increase the contrast to make things easier to see on the screen. It's so good, you can see text in direct sunlight because of this this technology.
It's also seen on high end laptops and iPads, too (I believe), but I've never seen it work as fast than the XZ P, it's really amazing, and well done to Qualcomm for developing it.
So calm down. It's a great usability feature that benefits everyone and has zero drawbacks. (You can't expecting to see perfect colours and contrast when you are standing in bright, sunny conditions)
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It's not a bug though, and works very well...
The whole idea is to max out the brightness, and increase the contrast to make things easier to see on the screen. It's so good, you can see text in direct sunlight because of this this technology.
It's also seen on high end laptops and iPads, too (I believe), but I've never seen it work as fast than the XZ P, it's really amazing, and well done to Qualcomm for developing it.
So calm down. It's a great usability feature that benefits everyone and has zero drawbacks. (You can't expecting to see perfect colours and contrast when you are standing in bright, sunny conditions)
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sony itself admitted it as a bug and collected bug reports from users to comeup with a fix and they fixed it with one of the MM builds for z4 & z5p . worst part is, it returned with nougat builds and has been reported by lots of users under nougat bugs ....which is all over there in support forums /// qualcomn assertive display tech must work in another way coz colors gets washed out upto an extent where it cant recover even after the device brought under normal lighting conditions //
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sony itself admitted it as a bug and collected bug reports from users to comeup with a fix and they fixed it with one of the MM builds for z4 & z5p . worst part is, it returned with nougat builds and has been reported by lots of users under nougat bugs ....which is all over there in support forums /// qualcomn assertive display tech must work in another way coz colors gets washed out upto an extent where it cant recover even after the device brought under normal lighting conditions //
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Huh?? I'm so confused.... This is not the Z4 or Z5P we are talking about here.
How are the colours getting washed out to a point of no return? This is XZ Premium, and this tech has been built in and put on the spec sheets. It certainly doesn't seem like a bug, and if they ever removed it then that would be a step backwards.
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Huh?? I'm so confused.... This is not the Z4 or Z5P we are talking about here.
How are the colours getting washed out to a point of no return? This is XZ Premium, and this tech has been built in and put on the spec sheets. It certainly doesn't seem like a bug, and if they ever removed it then that would be a step backwards.
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Well I personally dislike it. You have some great points I cant fault. They all explain the pros of the feature. I just dislike it because blacks become grey. Thats what annoys me like they become very grey. It looks horrible. Thats something I will fault in terms of the feature. That irritates me when I see jagged text and super-bright greys in my quick settings panel. This shouldnt occur.
I used my Z2 with the brightness low and I used kcal to reduce it even more, I could still visibly see the display under sunlight, where I couldnt id just shield it away.
Yeah its not a bad feature but its not a good one either. Best thing is if they came up with a way to toggle it on and off. I remeber on my Z4 tablet when the sun would shine through the window it would activate the feature. At least it isnt this sensitive with the XZP, my Z4 tablet was on marshmallow back then though.
If this feature were to be toggled by the user under display settings then id understand its usage more. At the moment we have no choice but to use it. Were forced to use qualcomms feature the majority of us dont like.
is this the same as experiencing flickering on the screen when you put the phone from a brightly lit room to a dimly lit room? i've had that issue several times already while an app is open and i move from direct light to my room where the light is off.
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Huh?? I'm so confused.... This is not the Z4 or Z5P we are talking about here.
How are the colours getting washed out to a point of no return? This is XZ Premium, and this tech has been built in and put on the spec sheets. It certainly doesn't seem like a bug, and if they ever removed it then that would be a step backwards.
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Adaptive brightness bug has been there from z series!! I just wondered wen I heard about this with xz premium (as I planned to get one but Sony has already started their degradation procedures with this device) and how users got confused to consider it as a bug or a feature!! This tech has been using In other models too!! I never heard of this issue on Xperia x And on other qualcomn devices with this feature or bug! Search for Adaptive brightness bug or issue on talk forums!! U Wil find all the info regarding this bug!! The only solution is to disable Adaptive brightness!! this issue hasn't occurred only in xzp!! It was been there and Sony behaves non existent on some issues like distortion and this ad bug
If u see ---- increase readability under sunlight option under developer options.. Toggle it off.. It will fix!! But AFAIK no Z or X series hav this option for nw!!
Seems it was there from z3 _
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z3/Auto-Brightness-affecting-darker-color/td-p/913872
And here is the response from support wer they admitted that it's not a feature but an issue!!
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...htness-quot-generates-color/m-p/1053628#M1536
SamDH1 said:
It's not a bug though, and works very well...
The whole idea is to max out the brightness, and increase the contrast to make things easier to see on the screen. It's so good, you can see text in direct sunlight because of this this technology.
It's also seen on high end laptops and iPads, too (I believe), but I've never seen it work as fast than the XZ P, it's really amazing, and well done to Qualcomm for developing it.
So calm down. It's a great usability feature that benefits everyone and has zero drawbacks. (You can't expecting to see perfect colours and contrast when you are standing in bright, sunny conditions)
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No I am NOT going to calm down! I am not having the problem but many are because for whatever reason it is not working properly.
Just go to ANY smart phone forum...take your pick....and you will find numerous complaints about all sorts of issues. Many are about the camera but the camera is not essential to the functioning of the phone as it was originally designed...as a communications device. But when your screen goes haywire, or your wifi stops working, or your LTE signal is so weak that you have to use 3G, and this happens on all cell phones...... and we are paying major $$$$$ for these things. then EVERYTHING that is included in the phone MUST WORK AS ADVERTISED!
What do you do when your car, or TV, or any other item you bought for big $$$$$ doesn't work as advertised, just accept it as "that's ok, that's the way it goes"? Not me! If these manufacturers can't make all these features work together seamlessly and accurately, then they need to stop putting so much into one device! Clearly they do NOT care about us... all they care about is selling the next greatest phone and just throw the "old" one in the trash! If we just consider the reason for the cell phone to exist in the first place.... as a mobile communications device....which in itself is a marvel of engineering....then every cell phone in the last five years or more works just as good as any new one released today. Heck even the very first cell phones can still do email, texting, GPS, wifi, bluetooth, and even make an actual phone call. Granted, there have been improvements in many areas regarding speed and accuracy. But now we are worried about 4K screens with 4K videos, and virtual reality and watching movies.... None of these things should even be on a cell PHONE! But they are and now we are stuck with shoddy implementations that conflict with the basic functioning of the device. And then Google releases another new OS while the two previous ones still have bugs. It is out of control.
OK, rant over for today. That was fun. Now where did I put that flame suit?
On to another debate. :good:
jaseman said:
and we are paying major $$$$$ for these things. then EVERYTHING that is included in the phone MUST WORK AS ADVERTISED!
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Great news for you; it's working as advertised.
jaseman said:
MUST WORK AS ADVERTISED!
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Calm down. It's working as advertised and it is a feature. Don't like it? Get a new phone from a different brand; then watch how the same thing will happen. When that happens, rant again in that device's respective forum.
I can see why Sony would want it to tweak the contrast, but on my older HTC phones the colours aren't fiddled with when using auto-brightness, only the backlight's brightness. On the Z5 it was a bit buggy in the older software builds where it would appear too bright or washed out on the lockscreen but they appear to have fixed it. What doesn't really make sense is that the black backgrounds of Spotify or Poweramp appear grey/purple when it detects daylight. Wouldn't it make more sense to make the darker parts of the image darker to enhance the contast?
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It is great feature, but it don't work as it should. Why then contrast is changing while I'm reading same page under same conditions, so I'm not moving and light intensity around me is the same? For example, I have Nokia 1020 and this feature works flawlessly! If it is sunny, display is very bright, if is not it is opposite.
I know this device has just launched in the USA (I just got mine from ZTEUSA like 3 days ago), but I was hoping for more activity in this forum. I know the Axon 10 Pro launched internationally at the end of May so I figured more people would have picked one up and been contributing here.
At any rate, I'm enjoying the device so far. Lack of OIS kind of hurts the camera in my opinion, and there's a bug in the gesture navigation where if you swipe up to go home, the system overrides whatever launcher you have set as default and restores the factory launcher, which is annoying (doesn't happen with 3 button navigation or pill navigation). But supposedly, ZTE is aware of the problem and working on a fix (according to their forum). Also, the system settings menu is WHITE with no way to turn it dark. So global dark mode doesn't work correctly. Those are about the only complaints I have so far. Oh, and the night mode of the stock camera app is really kind of lacking. Often, the standard photo mode takes better low light pictures than the "night" mode. But I installed the GCam app, and the night mode seems to work great.
Hopefully ZTE will fix the gestures and improve the camera with a quick update. Fingers crossed.
I got mine's on Tuesday thru Newegg and I love it so far. Its definitely huge and has to stay on a flat surface and only in my pocket on travel. I'm in love with how fast it is and there's minimal bloatware associated. Accessories are good in the original package but its damn near impossible to find a decent case or even screen protector elsewhere. Disappointing seeing that the phone has been out for awhile. I did appreciate the headphones Newegg gave up as i was *this* close to getting BeatsPro's. Only problem i can see is in the camera. Its one of ZTE's selling points but there's no image stabilization, and low light usage comes out subpar. I also notice vertical gray lines when zooming in and out. Hopefully this can be solved with a software update. Battery life is excellent here: i make it home after a 12 hour shift of light to medium usage with 70% left over.
I got this phone on Friday. So far I like the stock feeling. The launcher is outdated in my opinion. The software need a lot tweak.
I don't know why the vibration setting is only off-on. It don't even have slider option.
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