I have the stock T-Mobile simply rooted.
What is the best procedure for me to retain root once ICS drops AND be able to use titanium to restore all my apps and settings?
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If I download ICS, I will lose root but retain my apps and settings.
When ICS is eventually rooted I can then root my Nexus S but that wipes all my data. I won't be able to backup first, because that required the root I lost when I updated a while before. Assuming a week or month until root is released, this means my pre update backup will be outdated.
So should I wait until a root is discovered before even accepting the OTA update? Then I can backup, update, root, restore, all in one day?
Or will there be a root that doesn't wipe the device?
Any better ideas? Thanks!
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Wait for a stock rooted ROM..
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Then just flash it and I will keep all my settings and apps?
No, if you flash a new rom, you will have to use Titanium to restore app and data. As far as settings, I think you'll have to reset.
How come? Flashing an updated ROM OTA doesn't usually wipe apps and settings. Why would flashing a stock rooted ROM to an already rooted device behave differently and wipe them?
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Because while an ota is built to deliberately avoid a wipe, most roms require a good old wipe to run well because ur coming off a possibly very different rom whereas ota is coming from a cleanly stock rom or it wouldn't accept update. Make sense?
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I rooted my phone but haven't flashed any roms yet. Will I be able to get the 2.3.4 ota update when it becomes available. Or will I have to unroot my phone.
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I rooted my phone but haven't flashed any roms yet. Will I be able to get the 2.3.4 ota update when it becomes available. Or will I have to unroot my phone.
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as long as you have stock recovery it should flash over just fine
If you've rooted and installed CWM I dont think you will be able to update with the OTA update because you aren't using the stock recovery. Also, once you update OTA I think you will lose root anyway. Why don't you just flash a custom rom? That way you can run android 2.3.4 without losing root..
I'm running stock with s-off and I have cwm installed. And I get my its notification. Every other day I just decline. So the answer is yes u will get it as to what will happen if u accept and sl Idk. U prolly loose root.
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OTA Update Works with Root
I downloaded the OTA, copied it to the root of my sdcard, renamed it to update.zip and applied it using recovery.
If you're using the super user app, the apps that have preferences saved will continue to gain root access. Apps that do not have a preference stored will be denied root no matter what. So it's 1/2 way there. Unforunately I didn't save this preference for my shell.
So do not do this if you need root to work flawlessly right now. I will try to re-root and report back later.
Sorry I've been out of the loop for a bit. I have my phone rooted but on stock GB rom. If I try updating the stock ICS rom OTA I believe I will get an error. What is the easiest way to update and still keep my current data? I don't mind if I loose root. Can I unroot then instal the update OTA? Any suggestions welcome, please help!
I actually unrooted and then updated to ICS. After keeping stock for a couple of days I ended up rooting the phone so I could add the tap-to-focus feature to the camera.
Or you could just flash the stock ICS rom that's available in the development section.
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bruce wayne, if I update from the development section i don't need to wipe data? i thought i saw that in the directions? thanks again.
jojo08 said:
bruce wayne, if I update from the development section i don't need to wipe data? i thought i saw that in the directions? thanks again.
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Ideally you should wipe data. But if you're already rooted, just create a backup with whichever recovery you normally use. Then try to update with the stock ICS rom update posted by swampgoblin. You should be ok. But I do recommend that you wipe cache and Dalvik cache.
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U could make a nandroid, wipe, update, & selective restore data only. at least this way, if it all goes wacky, u got a current nandroid to restore...
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Okay so I'm stock rooted and unlocked and your not supposed to apply future otas because it'll brick the device.
Since there are no stable versions of jelly bean that's kinda outta the question for me.
If there is ever updates. Radio. Rom. Etc. Can I just download and directly flash through cwm? Will I have to wipe cache and dalvik? How do I reinact a ota updates through cwm
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Okay so I'm stock rooted and unlocked and your not supposed to apply future otas because it'll brick the device.
Since there are no stable versions of jelly bean that's kinda outta the question for me.
If there is ever updates. Radio. Rom. Etc. Can I just download and directly flash through cwm? Will I have to wipe cache and dalvik? How do I reinact a ota updates through cwm
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I'll take a stab at this:
I tried the JB roms but a little buggy for now, I'm sure they'll be stable as soon as the stable version of CM is released. For now I run Bean's custom stock rom build 10.
Root your device, unlock boot-loader and flash CWR 6.0.1 or 2 as you recovery. Now you can flash any roms you want. My method is as follows :
1- make a Nandroid back up, either from CWR menu or rom manager. Then use tit backup to backup all my downloaded apps.
2- go to recovery and wipe cache,data, system, and dalvik
3-pick a zip file from sd card
4- flash bean's rom
5- restore all my downloaded apps
6- profit
Going from Bean ver 9 to 10 I only wiped cache and dalvik. Wipe all if dev is asked for it or going from rom to rom, but only these two if you are going to a different version on the same rom.
+1 for beans.
+2 for beans as well. And don't worry, there will be stable builds of JB wayy before verizon sends out an ota of JB.
I just donno if verizon will make another ota for ics or release radio updates to fix some issues.. All I know is since my phone is like this I can't take any updates haha.
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I just donno if verizon will make another ota for ics or release radio updates to fix some issues.. All I know is since my phone is like this I can't take any updates haha.
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And how, pray tell, are you controlling whether or not you get updated? My understanding is a stock ROM will automatically accept OTA updates without prompt. sounds like a brick waiting to happen.
Stock roms have always prompted me in the past to update. Is it true they no longer prompt and auto install? Idk I really doubt that.
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If you have a custom recovery, an ota will fail
And another vote for Beans!
Stock rom will not force ota without me being able to decline though. Right?
That's my main concern...
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I'm sure this is discussed already but I can't seem to find it so if someone can help me or point me in the right direction.
I have a VZW GS3 that I have rooted, unlocked the boot loader and flashed CWM recovery. I then made a nandroid.
The main reason I did this was because I wanted Jelly Bean, and since Verizon is the slowest, I didn't want to wait so I installed custom ROMs.
Now that Verizon has released JB, I want to go back to my nandroid and then use the OTA firmware update service to upgrade.
Am I missing anything along the way that's essential for this to work?
Will the updated software re-root and/or relock my bootloader?
Will this automatically update the Baseband from my current VRLG7 to whatever the new one is?
One other thing, Will I still have CWM recovery after this happens? or will it revert back to stock recovery? or do I need to manually do anything to the recovery?
You're doing this to ultimately stay stock? Do you intend on flashing roms again or no? If you did a nandroid just after ONLY rooting and unlocking bootloader then restore it. Here's a step by step:
1) boot into CWM, restore your rooted, stock nandroid
2) Download EZ recovery, flash stock recovery
3) Wait for OTA
The OTA will relock your bootloader and unroot your phone. The JB OTA will also update your modem, and everything else, to VRBLK3.
One other thing, Will I still have CWM recovery after this happens? or will it revert back to stock recovery? or do I need to manually do anything to the recovery?
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No, you will lose CWM if you do what I detail above. The OTA will fail if you still have CWM installed.
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You're doing this to ultimately stay stock? Do you intend on flashing roms again or no?
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For the time being I intend on remaining stock, but I still want to root. Maybe once CM10.1 becomes stable, I'll go back to it, as of now I've had too many bugs with 10 nightlys and stable and 10.1 nightlys.
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If you did a nandroid just after ONLY rooting and unlocking bootloader then restore it
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I don't recall, but it's possible I did it after flashing CWM recovery, would that make a difference?
Thanks for your help!
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For the time being I intend on remaining stock, but I still want to root. Maybe once CM10.1 becomes stable, I'll go back to it, as of now I've had too many bugs with 10 nightlys and stable and 10.1 nightlys.
I don't recall, but it's possible I did it after flashing CWM recovery, would that make a difference?
Thanks for your help!
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Nah I was just verifying to see if you modified any system settings or apps while on ICS TW. You should be in the clear as long as you reset CWM to stock recovery if all you did was root, unlock, then perform a nandroid.
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Nah I was just verifying to see if you modified any system settings or apps while on ICS TW. You should be in the clear as long as you reset CWM to stock recovery if all you did was root, unlock, then perform a nandroid.
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before I restore the nandroid in CWM, do I need to do any wiping? cache, dalvik or full wipe?
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before I restore the nandroid in CWM, do I need to do any wiping? cache, dalvik or full wipe?
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Absolutely.
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so which wipe(s) do I need to do?
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before I restore the nandroid in CWM, do I need to do any wiping? cache, dalvik or full wipe?
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No you do not, the nan will overwrite everything anyways. If you feel better then factory reset and clear caches, but it's not necessary.
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thanks
I followed the instructions above and I'm back on my rooted TW.
When i try and update i get the following message:
Service Unavailable
To check for system updates, go to Settings > About device when service is available
What's wrong, how do i fix that?
searched around on google and a lot of people had the same warning error, multiple solutions were offered but none of them worked.
in the end, I ended up installing from odin completely stock unrooted, locked bootloader etc 4.0.4 (as f i want to return my phone to verizon) and once i did that it automatically updated to 4.1.1
Hi.
I rooted my Note 8010 using Zedomax' method. All has been fine. My note has now downaloded the JB OTA update, but it fails to install.
I assume I need to restore 'stock' recovery to install the OTA update? But where can I get this from.
Also will installing the OTA remove root? And will Zedomax' method still work to re-root after applying the update.
Regards
Installing the OTA should not remove root but if it does just use the exynos abuse patch app to root that is the simplest and safest method.
Thanks Samir_a
Do I actually need to restore stock recovery? If so, where can I get that?
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Thanks Samir_a
Do I actually need to restore stock recovery? If so, where can I get that?
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Cf root method restores stock recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33298782 and yes to do ota udate you need stock recovery
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Thanks hoss_n2
Ok I ran the CF auto root to restore stock recovery.
But now I have downloaded the ota update 3 times, and on clicking install it fails immediately.
Previously it rebooted into CWM recovery.
Any ideas what's wrong now? I'm guessing I can download a full update and flash it another away, but I assume that will erase all settings.
Try to flash via odin or if u r rooted use mobile odin . Im now on jb 4.1.2 i flashed my note via mobile odin in 5 min
Thanks mexman_2010.
However if I use odin that will trash my settings won't it?
Is there no way of getting the ota update to work?
You dont need to retore stock recovery or fiddle with odin. Just use kies on your computer and it installs the update for you. All your data should still be intact after the process but it is recommended to backup first
Keep in mind that updating using kies removes root
The ota's are using the patch method;
effectively what they do is work out the difference between the new binaries and old binaries and just send a patch that changes the old into the new.. this is done to keep the ota as small as possible I presume.
so if the binary isn't identical to what was shipped with the rom its trying to update then it will have to fail, otherwise you'd end up with an almighty great mess of non booting or corrupted devices.
if they used the file method (complete apks etc like an cwm style zip) then it shouldn't matter, but as it is, the only way to ensure a patch will work is to make sure the files are identical to what the patch was generated against, root allows you to change system files, so root is the primary way of checking if the system has been altered.
ergo if you want otas then you're most likely going to have to run them from a stock rom.
Thanks for all the info guys.
Bizarrely though, having left the Note overnight. It downloaded the OTA update itself and this time when I clicked install it worked perfectly, so
all is well again.
Thanks for the help everyone.
Please every one. I need help with my n8000. Currently i am on stock ics rooted with zedomax cwm installed. Is it safe for me to install OTA update or can i just switch back to my stock recovery by flashing it through odin? I have downloaded the stock recovery so im waiting for your replies
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Why don't you just install the latest version from sammobile with Odin or Mobile Odin instead of using the complicate way?
Can i revert to stock recovery by flashing through odin and still keep root?
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Yes you can do that, install stock recovery using ODIN, you will need to use triangleaway to reset your binary count though.
Also make sure the stock recovery is for your devic