[Q] 4G stalling? - Thunderbolt General

When I'm browsing the web, about every 10 minutes or so, my 4G connection stalls. I still have 3-4 bars lit up green but there is no activity showing in the arrows. It comes back after about 30 seconds to a minute later. It's extremely annoying. Is anyone else seeing this? Could this be a problem with my SIM card?
I'm running CM7 with the latest radios but I'm about to revert back to stock GB to see if it happens there.

I constantly had issues with CM7 and data. It would do exactly as you described. I ended up changing to MIUI and have never been happier. I havent had weird drop outs of data.

its been a complaint will all of verizon's lte devices. Guess it comes with the new tech. Hopefully it will get better over time.

I've had the issue with any and all roms this last 2 months + in specific locations. Mind you, these aren't fringe coverage areas or anything, either. When at home I'm constantly stalling but usually at work all good (1 mile away).
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Bad Radios I say
Everything past:
From the 2.10.605.1 RUU:
CDMA: 1.48.00.0726
md5: 704404fd7a7bd0958936a32527c06172
LTE: 0.01.78.0802
md5: d77c7fee8bb598c20d5d37f4a2e28d48
Is rubbish.
Although I prefer gingerbread interface I ran into all sorts of data dropping and LTE issues. It's not Verizon towers. Rather garbage radios and roms. As soon as I fell back to 2.10.605.1 and used these radios, everything is back to normal. Speeds are far better.
I noticed just after the gingerbread updates all of these threads on rootzwiki and here in regards to similar issues. Everyone saying stuff such as replace the SIM, call up Verizon etc. I just went back to Froyo and that is where I will stay.

i've been having the issue where i'd click on a link on a webpage(regardless of browser) and occasionally it won't appear to be doing anything.. and i'll click another 1 - 2 times before it's magically appeared(fully loaded) on the next page.

siggins said:
Everything past:
From the 2.10.605.1 RUU:
CDMA: 1.48.00.0726
md5: 704404fd7a7bd0958936a32527c06172
LTE: 0.01.78.0802
md5: d77c7fee8bb598c20d5d37f4a2e28d48
Is rubbish.
Although I prefer gingerbread interface I ran into all sorts of data dropping and LTE issues. It's not Verizon towers. Rather garbage radios and roms. As soon as I fell back to 2.10.605.1 and used these radios, everything is back to normal. Speeds are far better.
I noticed just after the gingerbread updates all of these threads on rootzwiki and here in regards to similar issues. Everyone saying stuff such as replace the SIM, call up Verizon etc. I just went back to Froyo and that is where I will stay.
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Running CM7.1.1,
I had 906w_1 and 906w_2 radios from 2.11.605.3...
Had the same problems of "stalling" 4G
I went back to the GB radios for 2.10.605.1... and it was much worse. 4G stalled even more, and when toggling back to 3G only mode, I got no data at all (even with bars).
I think it is like most experts are saying... each device is different. Some radios work for your device and some won't.

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[Q] Lousy Signal: Anyone Else?

Just checking to see if anyone else with an Inspire on AT&T has experienced a signal dropoff in the last two or three days. One day I'm pegged at 4 bars WCDMA, now I can't seem to get out of GPRS/Edge. Seems it coincides with the rollout of the update. Anyone else getting crappy reception in the last few days?
No good reception
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Reception is all right for could always be better, still waiting for AT&T to get the 4g ball rolling
Folks, I'm looking for those of you who have had LOSS of signal in the last week. Please no "mine sucks" or "mine is ok" kind of posts, i only want to hear from those of you who have had a change.
Does anyone know how to check the status of AT&T's cell towers? Is there a website that will show where they are and what their operational condition is?
You can call att and tell them where you are. They will give you information on the towers in your area.
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Signal is crappy, but hasn't changed in the last few days. You should call AT&T and check with them
Well, just as I was about to call AT&T to find out what the heck might be going on, I now see my signal is very strong again, but with UMTS as the network type, though I'm showing 3G in my notification bar.
So, is UMTS the new 4G network and they were just changing the tower over the past few days?
They have been updating towers all over...So to answer your original question, yes I have experienced some bad signal at times, but has returned to a good signal after they finished updating whatever they were working on....
WC
maybe this explains my many dropped calls in the last few days..
Wild Child said:
They have been updating towers all over...So to answer your original question, yes I have experienced some bad signal at times, but has returned to a good signal after they finished updating whatever they were working on....
WC
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What are you showing for network type?
Actually it depends on where Im at in my house...i can move 15 ft and itll pick up an Edge signal....then switch to H+,which is still just 3G for now until LTE network is up and running...Ive only seen 3G once or twice since Ive had the phone...Also just a side note...Im on an unrooted, untampered with 1.84 ROM...Based on your posts, your rooted and using a custom ROM, issue may not be the phone or the towers, may be the ROM your using,unfortunately with the way ATT provisioned this software...you may have issues with certain things using custom ROMS....
WC
Wild Child said:
Actually it depends on where Im at in my house...i can move 15 ft and itll pick up an Edge signal....then switch to H+,which is still just 3G for now until LTE network is up and running...Ive only seen 3G once or twice since Ive had the phone...Also just a side note...Im on an unrooted, untampered with 1.84 ROM...Based on your posts, your rooted and using a custom ROM, issue may not be the phone or the towers, may be the ROM your using,unfortunately with the way ATT provisioned this software...you may have issues with certain things using custom ROMS....
WC
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I doubt that using the Custom Roms are the main issue. Many of the custom roms are using Stock Kernals and Radios. <- those are the two main contributing factors to cell strength and battery life.
I run MIUI on stock kernal now, with the new ATT Radio .26.06.06.30_M and have no issues. Denver CO Area and run full bars or -70 to -87 dcb at almost all times. Great download speeds.
Incorrect to a point....if provisioning isnt correct in the rom then there will be issues, att is trying to be slick in a lot of ways these days...
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I doubt that using the Custom Roms are the main issue. Many of the custom roms are using Stock Kernals and Radios. <- those are the two main contributing factors to cell strength and battery life.
I run MIUI on stock kernal now, with the new ATT Radio .26.06.06.30_M and have no issues. Denver CO Area and run full bars or -70 to -87 dcb at almost all times. Great download speeds.
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When i use Stock roms my signal is steady on H+ n a lil bit on Edge but mostly on H+.
On custom roms i stay on Edge.. H is rare or just dont stick
n yes im using the stock kernal n radio
Update: turns out they were working on the tower(s) in my area. Signal back to normal. Thanks for everyone's feedback.
this happened to me last month, and now today is happening again lol. seems like they are working on towers a lot recently in my area. if i go to another city i get full bar H constantly...oh wells hopefully they will finish all the tower work soon.

[Q] Problems with the Full MR2 leak - 4G radio instability

Very odd problem with this new full MR2, probably radio related. When i upgraded it obviously did the full wipe so I know it's not a software interfering. It's pretty much a fresh reset since 1pm.
Anyways i keep losing connectivity to 4g. it flickers to 4g, then 3g, then 1x. Then back to 4g for a second, then it just loses connectivity to the internet totally but shows full bars. Now i'm back at 1x.
I am sitting smack in the middle of NYC where there is always full 4g & 3g bars. Anyone else experiencing this problem? I've done numerous reboots, put my phone in/out of airplane mode, etc but i can't hold a 4g signal for the life of me. Didn't have this problem in the AM before i upgraded. It's now flickering between no internet connectivity and 1x as i type this. I wonder if this is network related or the new firmware?
I was having that issue before the updates (the first one) when I was in NYC. I honestly think it may be the 4g network. the way I solved it was putting my phone on CDMA(auto) and it just held 3g.
I was having that same issue running The Perfect Storm. I downgraded the radio and went back to BAMF Remix and have had NO 4G issues. Good connection, great speed, and it never loses the 4G connection.
4g has been fine for me running the MR2 radio with flyweight ROM. I'm in Florida though, not NY...
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I am in NYC and had the same problem....
I even flashed the first Ginger radio and still had the same problem...
10 min ago I reloaded the MR2 radio and I am getting 4g now....
I am 99.999999% sure it was the VZ network!
EDIT::: just went back to 1x.....I am sure it is the VZ network...just have to wait ait out
Interesting...I thought I would try this update again this morning with a different ROM (Das BAMF 2.0 - 5) and have had no issues at all. 4G is constantly connected with no drops. I'm not sure if something happened with the initial install or if it was an issue with the ROM I was using it with. Anyway, all is good.
Try powering down..pull battery and LTE sim. Reinstall them and power up.
ridin the lightning
sorry to necro, but this is the first relevant thread i found in search
i am in a similar situation, before rooting (stock thunderbolt), i could exaggerate and say i didn't even know what the 3G icon looked like, constant 4GLTE uptime in washington, DC
i'm using INJ3CT3DTH3ORY (pardon me if i have stylized the name incorrectly) with an OVA MR2, and now i'm constantly 3G. i've tried every setting under "set preferred network." if i do LTE only, it'll show 4GLTE for maybe half a minute, and then fall into 1X. if i do CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto, it'll show 4GLTE for a similarly short amount of time, then fall into 3G. all the other settings deal with 3G only if i remember correctly, so i'm not even bothering to mention those.
thinking it might have been the radio, i tried flashing MR2.5 and MR.627, both giving me the same result.
any ideas?
edit: found this thread, seems to be related as well (showing some effort here) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178285
I am not experiencing these problems with BAMF 1.86

Interesting findings on the newest OTA (MD3)

I read about all of the issues people are having with the newest OTA (MD3). I decided to give it a try anyway, because I love writing emails to Verizon pointing out their flaws.
I followed the instructions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709 to go back to stock, using the Official VRALG1 4.0.4 Firmware. I wiped the Data and Cache partitions after installing. After this, I applied each patch in succession BEFORE installing any other software or programs. When I was done, I immediately disabled the Caller Name ID app. I have NONE of the reported bugs:
* Texts send immediately on the first try
* Battery life is no different than it was on the last firmware
* Phone switches easily between Wifi, 3G, and 4G LTE
* 4G LTE speeds are normal
I am no stranger to unlocking, flashing ROMS and Radios, etc, but I am most certainly NOT a dev. I'm posting this information here so that someone with more knowledge than I may be able to glean some information useful to those that ARE having a problem from this post.
I was having issues with the ota and I went back to the oldest update then took the otas.
Then rerooted mb1 and flashed bonestock 2.0 with the mb3 radio/modem....still had signal issues. And that rom has all bloat removed. So I flashed the mb1 radio/modem and now I get better signal.
Ha thats my story.....definitely a mess up from Big Red.
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I wiped and then installed the stock deodexed MD3 ROM and firmware and had data issues...low signal, frequent drops to 3g or 1x, etc. Ran it for a few days and it was noticeable wherever I went. Restored my CleanROM nandroid and flashed the MB1 firmware and my signal has been much more consistent again.
I was weary of the rumored issues so I completely wiped my internal storage for a fresh install, and MD3 has been nothing short of amazing for my phone. If anything the only knock on it is that the signal has degraded about a bar in areas where I'd normally have full bars. Data connectivity is fine, data speeds are fine, the kernel with this update deep sleeps better than most that I've flashed in the past month. It's been nothing but good so far
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cvsolidx17 said:
I was weary of the rumored issues so I completely wiped my internal storage for a fresh install, and MD3 has been nothing short of amazing for my phone. If anything the only knock on it is that the signal has degraded about a bar in areas where I'd normally have full bars. Data connectivity is fine, data speeds are fine, the kernel with this update deep sleeps better than most that I've flashed in the past month. It's been nothing but good so far
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For a device that already had bad radios for low signal areas, the reception issue is bad. It is not like going from great radios to good radios, but going from barely okay radios overall to worse. Everything is relative and the radio changes absolutely suck in that regard.
rushless said:
For a device that already had bad radios for low signal areas, the reception issue is bad. It is not like going from great radios to good radios, but going from barely okay radios overall to worse. Everything is relative and the radio changes absolutely suck in that regard.
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I"d say this thread is now dead since Samsung / Verizon have now pulled the OTA and will release a fixed version later, That usually means 1 day for Samsung to fix it, and 3 months for Verizon to test and approve the release.
In comparing the S3 to two other Verizon Motorola phones in my family, I find the S3 signal to be as good or better to the Motos when running the current stock software, (not the broken MD3 OTA) . SO I'd say its pretty good as Verizon goes. Interestingly, I find that the Verizon S3 is not nearly as good in signal as my wife's Sprint S3 , Surprising because VErizon and Sprint often share cell towers.
rushless said:
For a device that already had bad radios for low signal areas, the reception issue is bad. It is not like going from great radios to good radios, but going from barely okay radios overall to worse. Everything is relative and the radio changes absolutely suck in that regard.
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This is exactly the thing. After using MB3 update a whole week, giving it a chance....my phone would still WORK in areas with strong signal, but everywhere else it went from ok to UN-usable!
There is a clear issue here but if you are in areas with only great signal you may not notice as much but it's there.
DigitalMD said:
I"d say this thread is now dead since Samsung / Verizon have now pulled the OTA and will release a fixed version later, That usually means 1 day for Samsung to fix it, and 3 months for Verizon to test and approve the release.
In comparing the S3 to two other Verizon Motorola phones in my family, I find the S3 signal to be as good or better to the Motos when running the current stock software, (not the broken MD3 OTA) . SO I'd say its pretty good as Verizon goes. Interestingly, I find that the Verizon S3 is not nearly as good in signal as my wife's Sprint S3 , Surprising because VErizon and Sprint often share cell towers.
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What they should do is release here first. There are no better beta testers then XDA members and we could probably find every flaw within a day, and heck our devs can probably fix most of them for Samsung anyway.
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What they should do is release here first. There are no better beta testers then XDA members and we could probably find every flaw within a day, and heck our devs can probably fix most of them for Samsung anyway.
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Samsung usually releases a test release on KIES for their own stuff, but Verizon of course won;t let them do that for Verizon phones because Verizon has their own professional way of doing things....hahahaha

[Q] Horrible reception-- new phone development

I've started having some horrible issues with my phone connecting to Verizon networks properly. I used to be able to connect to 4G networks at my house and surrounding area with no issue, but now I've been having the worst time getting it to lock. Currently I'm connected to 3G at -99dBm in my household.
I originally was running stock, but fully rooted, S-Off. I've since switched to trying AOKP and now I've settled on Sinless GPe 3.4.7. I have not seen any real difference between them as far as getting a good connection to the network. I started switching ROMs well after I've noticed an issue, and I have not done much of anything to my phone in the last few weeks that I could attribute to the change. I've never dropped the phone or damaged it in any way.
I just recently traveled across the state and would run speedtests next to my wife's iPhone 5c and 19/20 times she'd show full bars with LTE service while I was either on 3G or no service at all. My phone will connect to 4G sometimes though, it's just not that often.
I read that there may be an issue with my SIM card, so I stopped in and had it replaced. The guy seemed very confused about the state of my phone software, so he blamed any issue I was having on the software installed. Regardless I did get a new SIM card installed. It did not seem to help at all. Can anybody help me? I'd hope to not have to go through the hassle of attempting to get the phone replaced!
Bootloader information:
HBoot-3.16.0.0000
Radio-0.89.20.0321
After rebooting my phone, my phone locked to an LTE signal at -112dBm. It does not speed test at over 3Mbps. Testing my wife's iPhone shows her at -100dBm and she was able to pull 30Mbps down.
There is talk of poor signal reception/speed in gpe threads. Cm based Roms, dunno. Try flashing a sense ROM, do some tests and report back
I recommend clean ROM or any other ROM on Verizon base
I just received my M8 yesterday and am having the same issues (both wifi and LTE) running the latest PA. Going to try something with a VZW base and report back.
wtoj34 said:
There is talk of poor signal reception/speed in gpe threads. Cm based Roms, dunno. Try flashing a sense ROM, do some tests and report back
I recommend clean ROM or any other ROM on Verizon base
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I reloaded my backup of the Stock ROM and I am still seeing the same issues. It seems to connect sometimes but most of the time it will not. It seems like its just not getting a good lock. I am having trouble even using the phone at my house now whereas I've always had great service here. Doing a speed test now, the phone states 3G service, tested with 705 ping, download of 0.17, upload shot up to 58.19 (which obviously isn't true) and then froze while testing and has been here for over three minutes.
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I reloaded my backup of the Stock ROM and I am still seeing the same issues. It seems to connect sometimes but most of the time it will not. It seems like its just not getting a good lock. I am having trouble even using the phone at my house now whereas I've always had great service here. Doing a speed test now, the phone states 3G service, tested with 705 ping, download of 0.17, upload shot up to 58.19 (which obviously isn't true) and then froze while testing and has been here for over three minutes.
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I would run the RUU and try again, and just see if something got boogered
Confirming as well that the reception isn't the greatest with this phone/radio in the so so service areas.
I live out in the country. Never had good reception with Sprint no matter the phone. Switched to Verizon with an LG G2 and service was fantastic at home for the 7 months I owned it. I moved to the M8 and now phone service is spotty at my house. It's the radio for sure. Wifes verizon moto works great at home as well.
I've had the same issue, updated radios, flash back to stock, and everything else. The radio on this phone IMO is terrible, even when it does get 4G I get like 8 mbps down with 4 bars of 4g. Once in a great while i'll get 18 - 20 down with 5 bars of 4g.
I've been experiencing the same things recently as well. It also affects sending SMS messages. I am on stock too (with s-off). Nothing changed on my phone though, it just started dying.
Never had signal issues. I live out in the boonies too. Signal is strong and switching between 3g and 4g has been smooth. I've been able to download torrents as fast as 5mb/s. Speed test results have been just awesome. As far as signal goes, it's been better than my note 3, DNA, and my wife's droid mini. And this is my second m8. My son has the first and it is the same as mine.
I would look into exchanging them if they don't keep up with other phones. The radio in this phone is actually pretty damn sweet, so if u got a funky one, I'd exchange it. Def try the ruu first, then exchange if that doesn't help.
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[Q] anybody else having 4g connection issues?

About 3 weeks ago after installing the update of liquidsmooth 4.4.4 i randomly started dropping to 3g service in places that i normally had full 4g available. It has slowly gotten worse to where if im not on wifi, than the phone is pretty much useless. i normally have full coverage everywhere. so i originally thought that maybe something had gotten messed up on the update, so i did a clean install of liquidsmooth 4.4, and blackbird kernal and same thing still occurred. also tried carbon rom and slimrom, and no luck. so for the fun of it, i went ahead and reflashed the phone back to stock from backups and rerooted it, updated the modems and reinstalled liquidsmooth w/ blackbird kernal, and same thing. i have went through all the mobile networks settings and tried everything and nothing seems to help, idk if that update screwed something up or if its an issue that others have been experiencing as well, or if im just screwed and my phone phone is dying.... any help is appreciated thanks
rideforlife7 said:
About 3 weeks ago after installing the update of liquidsmooth 4.4.4 i randomly started dropping to 3g service in places that i normally had full 4g available. It has slowly gotten worse to where if im not on wifi, than the phone is pretty much useless. i normally have full coverage everywhere. so i originally thought that maybe something had gotten messed up on the update, so i did a clean install of liquidsmooth 4.4, and blackbird kernal and same thing still occurred. also tried carbon rom and slimrom, and no luck. so for the fun of it, i went ahead and reflashed the phone back to stock from backups and rerooted it, updated the modems and reinstalled liquidsmooth w/ blackbird kernal, and same thing. i have went through all the mobile networks settings and tried everything and nothing seems to help, idk if that update screwed something up or if its an issue that others have been experiencing as well, or if im just screwed and my phone phone is dying.... any help is appreciated thanks
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I'm currently running OmniToad, and ran CM 11M8 for a short while. On T-Mobile at least, with the custom ROMs it's normal to see H+ only when data is being transferred; it will drop back to 3G otherwise. When I ran the stock ROM on the Relay, it would always say "4G" regardless of whether it was in UMTS (3G) or HSPA+ mode. Apps like SignalCheck or CellMapper will tell you which mode it is really in.
On the other hand, if data transmission is only going through as 3G, it could be a phone issue or a tower issue. Is LTE available in your area, or are they just getting it set up? I know when T-Mobile was upgrading the Chicago area to provide LTE, there were a few glitches here and there.
It was stupid for T-Mobile to brand HSPA+ as "4G" but that's a different rant.
Bobby Tables said:
I'm currently running OmniToad, and ran CM 11M8 for a short while. On T-Mobile at least, with the custom ROMs it's normal to see H+ only when data is being transferred; it will drop back to 3G otherwise. When I ran the stock ROM on the Relay, it would always say "4G" regardless of whether it was in UMTS (3G) or HSPA+ mode. Apps like SignalCheck or CellMapper will tell you which mode it is really in.
On the other hand, if data transmission is only going through as 3G, it could be a phone issue or a tower issue. Is LTE available in your area, or are they just getting it set up? I know when T-Mobile was upgrading the Chicago area to provide LTE, there were a few glitches here and there.
It was stupid for T-Mobile to brand HSPA+ as "4G" but that's a different rant.
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yea LTE has been in this area for quite a while now, i had it with my S4 and it worked perfectly, i never had a problem with the service on the relay either up untill a few weeks ago the internet speed and and data coverage was great, not quite as fast as the LTE on my S4 but it was still more than adequate, i used to use the hotspot and stream netflix on my laptop. now i can usually get a text to send but calls usually fail and if i try and use the internet its impossible. it almost seems like its doing the exact opposite of what it should be doing, as soon as i try and use anything (not while connected to wifi) than it drops coverage to 3g/edge/ or to nothing at all. Im leaning towards the hardware failing side, but i figured i might as well give it a shot and post it and see if maybe i wasnt alone. thank you for your reply.
small note of background on me: first time posting ever in this forum but have been using the tools and roms from it for a long time, so im not a complete noob, but i definitely still have a lot to learn.

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