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Hey guys, just got my G2X whooo!!!
Loving it so far, got it home, immediately rooted and put ADW EX on it. I've noticed, however that ADW seems to bog when doing certain multitasking, like live wallpapers for instance. This is relative to the stock launcher that seemed to not be bothered at all by running a live wallpaper.
So my presumption is that ADW is yet to be dual core optimized and is probably using the same core as the live wallpaper and I'm wondering if anyone knows of another launcher that may be better suited to our ivory (dual core) needs.
Thoughts?

I've noticed the same with mine, the stock launcher is BLAZING and smooth but ADW and LauncherPro both stutter and are slow and painful. Just give it time for updates I would imagine.

Yeah I'm sure they'll come in time.
Just wondering if anyone knows of one that's already got the dual core treatment. Was a touch disappointed to try launcher pro and adw and go slower though i guess in this case it speaks to the insanely fast performance of the phone when optimized.
I wonder how the CM guys are going to handle this, since one of it's performance boosters is ADW.

Anyone try Zeam yet? That always seemed to be the quickest one on all of my devices.

Never heard of it.
Gonna try it out now though.
Really though, I think the problem is more so with the dual core optimizations than anything else.

well now im bummed. i love adw. damn it.
and how long does the delivery guy take?
damn. it.
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Marcus Ryan said:
Never heard of it.
Gonna try it out now though.
Really though, I think the problem is more so with the dual core optimizations than anything else.
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Man, Zeam is the best launcher I have ever used. It just got a update too. It doesn't have as many options as ADW or LP but it's much faster.

how does go launcher perform on this phone ?

zeam runs pretty well, but not as quick as the stocker.

I had allot of force closes w/ LP+ on my dual core Atrix, I had to play with the memory usage settings to stop them. If you do, be careful and only change one setting at a time. I had to uninstall/reinstall LP once during my testing because of constant FC. I rarely ever see a FC now, maybe once a week. Its very smooth now also.

When I first used the phone I was mildly impressed. For some reason stock launcher was laggy, but once I installed go I was happy. Only thing that bothers me about the ui now is the white task bar, but hopefully there'll be an update soon (woohoo ginger).
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I've had no problems with stock, so there's where I am now. With my SGS4G I switched to Launcher Pro, but with my G2X I don't feel the need at this point.

My stock launcher was around 30fps and it bugged the crap out of me.
I installed launcher pro and everything is 60+fps and buttery smooth.
It slows down a bit with the 3d app drawer though.
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diablos991 said:
My stock launcher was around 30fps and it bugged the crap out of me.
I installed launcher pro and everything is 60+fps and buttery smooth.
It slows down a bit with the 3d app drawer though.
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Also using Launcher Pro, and I'm having no problems with speed whatsoever. I did notice some lag when I used the homescreen transition effects that LP offers, but I never really used those anyway so it doesn't make a difference to me.

twoeleven99 said:
how does go launcher perform on this phone ?
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i've been using go launcher for the last 3 days with no lag or other issues.

kingpongg said:
i've been using go launcher for the last 3 days with no lag or other issues.
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Same here, i have been using Go Launcher and i have to say i like it much better than ADW have not tried Zeam yet though. but Go is very smooth and i like the customization better.

I'm using ADW but don't use live wallpaper. The 4D app drawer and move wall paper background when sliding home pages, both of which are resource heavy, are really smooth. It might be a combination of ADW and something else you have installed that's slowing you down.

Just Horrible

Wow i came from the thunderbolt. I like the weight and screen of the Charge. But the software is just horrible!!! Another Fascinate in the making. And holly cow is the browser complete garbage. Even if i use a 3rd party it has the same problems.
I called verizon and they say its not an issue haha. I might get the incredible 2 instead.
Also 4g as of now is way overrated!! Well because works sporadically.
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I'm with you on the software, but who really uses the stock browser?
4G is definitely sporadic, but its pretty amazing when it works, IMO.
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Fascinate was a great phone for me.. This one not so much. I'm probably going to return this thing today

I just came from the Thunderbolt, for a reason. My Thunderbolt has been a nightmare since day 1. Battery issues, multiple reset issues, no data found issues. don't get me started on the Thunderbolt. The only thing I like more about the Thunderbolt is the solid build. However, the Thunderbolt software is ten times more flawed than the Droid Charge. Very happy I ditched the Thunderbolt in time to do a straight exchange for the Charge.

What exactly are your issues with the stock browser? I have yet to see a problem.

Holy smokes people getting mad cause i said software sux? Wow
The browser is non responsive while scrolling or using pinch to zoom. Browser is dealbreaker especially cause of cost of data.
As fas 4g goes yes when its working its great. But the 3g to 4g handoff is bad vice versa.
Anyone else hate the browbish colors of UI?
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I came from the Incredible and so far the T-Bolt and Inc 2 are looking better every day. Aside from the screen and 4g (when working), I can't find anything redeeming about the phone so far. This coupled with my fears over Samsung's spotty update history are really pushing me towards returning my charge.

Install launcher pro. Its not hideous like the default launcher and it can hide the bloatware.

I put launcherpro on. I love it but its the browser thats garbage. And 3rd party browsers have same problem
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All browsers eh? Maybe its not the browser but the phone...
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adrynalyne said:
All browsers eh? Maybe its not the browser but the phone...
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Or maybe it's the user...

adrynalyne said:
All browsers eh? Maybe its not the browser but the phone...
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We need you here too Adrynalyne!!!

I agree that all other browsers suck. On everyone android phone I had when you double tap an article it auto formats it to fit the screen. But not with the Droid Charge! POS

Opera mobile is the best for the Charge, smooth scrolling and fast but wont load all images on large heavy sites.. Thats when I use Miren

Yeah i like 3rd party browsers...... I meant that none work well on the charge. But whats killing me is..... i like the design of the charge over the thunderbolt..... Just fix the Touchwiz man......
Samsung is the worst man!!!! Id wait for a dual core 4g but im scared if i do that ill miss on the unlimited data plan.
Ahhhhhh

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Or maybe it's the user...
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Right, blame the user. That's the first thing they teach you when you take Human Computer Interaction courses. /s

The performance of the phone pretty much sucks it seems. My question is. . is it a hardware or software issue?

I love my charge. Battery life is great, screen is awesome, and it is fast. I agree though that the colors are terrible. Here's what I modified and mine runs smooth as silk:
1: Install a rooted Rom.
2: install titanium backup
3: remove bloatware
4: install ADW Launcher
5: install and use Opera Mobile. Seriously, its wicked fast.

Opera mobile is my favorite. But touchwiz makes the phone slow and clunky. Also anyone notice that when you hit power button to shut screen on and off its a slow shuttery fade?
A true working asop or custom Working Rom never came to fascinate will it come to charge?
Theme / skin Rom. ... I don't count these if touchwiz is what Rom is based off of.
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Sherwood1 said:
Opera mobile is my favorite. But touchwiz makes the phone slow and clunky. Also anyone notice that when you hit power button to shut screen on and off its a slow shuttery fade?
A true working asop or custom Working Rom never came to fascinate will it come to charge?
Theme / skin Rom. ... I don't count these if touchwiz is what Rom is based off of.
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Extremely unlikely that a fully working aosp ever.comes to the charge

Only One Thing I Don't Like

Only one thing so far I don't like about HOX. Bone stock, non-root.
Sense 4 stutters in the app tray when swiping between app screens. I think my gnex with official 4.04 is smoother. With more powerful hardware on the HOX, you wouldn't think even Sense 4 could slow it down. But it is consistently laggy or stutters when swiping between app tray screens. Not bad mind you, just a little stutter step during the first 1/3 of the transition as you swipe side to side.
I actually find Sense 4 to be quite usable so have no complaints with it. Just wish it were smoother. Maybe one day I will use a de-sensed rom but that will have to wait until I've owned it a month. We'll see.

Just use another launcher like Apex and Nova and you should be fine.

Sometimes it takes a second for my app drawer to pop up if I haven't opened it for a while, but not once has it stuttered swiping between screens. You really should root, that's what xda is for ya know...

Thanks, I tried Nova and liked it. Smooth.
Sense is so pervasive throughout though I couldn't get over the idea that I was running one launcher on top of another so decided that the Sense 4 stuttering app tray bothered me less than using two launchers and the resources that might suck up. It's not that bad, just mind boggling that HTC can't get this one part right.
pl0xn00b said:
Just use another launcher like Apex and Nova and you should be fine.
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lol click the thanks button

I haven't had any issues with lag with mine.
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Describe your lag...

Mine was pretty bad, but after doing a factory reset twice now, I can report my lag is not bad.
I see a SLIGHT stutter in the opening/closing animations of apps. Definitely lag in the app drawer. The lockscreen is probably where I see the most unresponsiveness/lag. You hit the power button and you have to wait a second, then its fine. The animation from the lock screen to the home screen almost always stutters. The default browser seems about 95% zippy and responsive. Pinch to zoom stutters occasionally. But touchwiz seems very smooth and fluid for the most part. The camera takes perfect pictures. There also is some shutter lag, but not bad.
Overall, the phone is nice, but I am going to be calling Samsung/AT&T and do whatever it takes for them to fix this. This is unacceptable. I noticed that the apps I put on my phone, the more the lag grew. I disabled a lot of the AT&T bloatware and Samsung garbage. Right when I performed a factory reset my phone had ZERO lag. So those getting new devices are probably experiencing what I did. The lag slowly came back, but not as bad as before.
My only reason for not returning it is, once this device gets roms, its going to be a beast. But right now, its performing like a 2011 device.

I reset mine 20 times and it still lags
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drakeymcmb said:
I reset mine 20 times and it still lags
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How bad though, and where?

I've done one factory reset and things have improved quite a bit. However, it's still not performing anywhere near where it should be. Can't wait for AOKP..
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mine was sluggish too.. When opping application, can feel the jerk...

slight lag when opening messaging, and phone. also, the occasional stutter when swiping thru home screens and app drawer pages. samsung better acknowledge and release an update!!! im still contemplating on returning this!!! s2 was beast otb, s3 was better but s4 otb just feels unfinished to me.

sameer1807 said:
slight lag when opening messaging, and phone. also, the occasional stutter when swiping thru home screens and app drawer pages. samsung better acknowledge and release an update!!! im still contemplating on returning this!!! s2 was beast otb, s3 was better but s4 otb just feels unfinished to me.
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What about with the lockscreen?
The S2 was such a beast OTB, I actually miss it.
I just got off the phone with Samsung support and they took notes on this issue. Of course, this was the first he heard of it. We gotta inform Samsung there is a problem.
Call 1-888-987-4357

Why in the world would you start a new thread about this. We're the other 10 or 15 lag threads not worthy of this content?
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americasteam said:
Why in the world would you start a new thread about this. We're the other 10 or 15 lag threads not worthy of this content?
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I've read them all, trust me. Nobody exactly describes what is going on with their lag. Some are reporting minor lag, while others are reporting much worse lag. I was hoping everyone call describe exactly where the lag is and when its happening.

i guess i'm lucky. I dont experience any lag, whatsoever.

MattMJB0188 said:
I've read them all, trust me. Nobody exactly describes what is going on with their lag. Some are reporting minor lag, while others are reporting much worse lag. I was hoping everyone call describe exactly where the lag is and when its happening.
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Dude this is the 2nd thread you made about the lag, theres already 20 threads about it

To be honest I kind of agree with the OP. I've read many lag threads but nobody mentions what's lagging. The only lag I've noticed on mine is the gallery is super slow. At least 3 seconds to load from home. I haven't tried quickpic yet though. Mostly because I'm finding air view useful.
But really, other than the gallery, zero lag.
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When i got my wifi on i still seen the 4glte in use at the same time,,,and when i have a weak signal and then i make a call signal goes up immmediately ,,,after i finish the call goes down again but that happen when i got a weak signal....

Hmmmm is this like the homebutton lag like the first GS2 had ? or is it worst ?

Hey guys just wanted to say, I followed the trickster mod in the general section and my lag has been reduced by about 95%. My quadrant scores are also a bit higher.. Might wanna check it out
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sameer1807 said:
Hey guys just wanted to say, I followed the trickster mod in the general section and my lag has been reduced by about 95%. My quadrant scores are also a bit higher.. Might wanna check it out
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I deleted about 97 apps / processes and have another 4 frozen, turned animations to zero, forced enable GPU rendering, installed Nova launcher, and am running Trickster..
The entire phone is lightning fast now with the exception of the keyboard opening and closing. The Samsung KB is unusable.. Swiftkey works much better but it does still have very minor lag.
The steps I have taken are insane and should not have to be done on a phone carrying these specs. This phone should flat out scream right out of the box.

raqball said:
I deleted about 97 apps / processes and have another 4 frozen, turned animations to zero, forced enable GPU rendering, installed Nova launcher, and am running Trickster..
The entire phone is lightning fast now with the exception of the keyboard opening and closing. The Samsung KB is unusable.. Swiftkey works much better but it does still have very minor lag.
The steps I have taken are insane and should not have to be done on a phone carrying these specs. This phone should flat out scream right out of the box.
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Yea I reduced my animations to 0.5x and it definitely helped. Everyone should at least do that much. Most people do that on custom ROMs anyway.
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Go here for lag discussion http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263311

Insane launcher

I've recently been having lag issues with nova, so I decided to hunt for a new launcher. After trying a few, I discovered next launcher 3d. My mind is blown. I've never ever seen a launcher with so much freedom and so many options. I.e. You could place your home screen icons ANYWHERE if you wish... No grid alignment.
Yeah that could look messy, but it reminds me of the freedom in Windows to put icons wherever you want. Of course there's an option to align to the grid also. Also widgets can be sized to literally any odd size, No adhering to grids. Then there's 3d mode - it transforms the phone into an entirely different monster. It's crazy. There are too many other options to list.
Icing on the cake? Zero lag no matter what transition I pick, even 3d transitions. I'm in love.

Icing is the price
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I usually stay away from anything GO team makes.

baste07 said:
Icing is the price
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Well yeah I agree, and while I don't condone piracy, there are always ways to "try" it out..

siciliano777 said:
Well yeah I agree, and while I don't condone piracy, there are always ways to "try" it out..
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I have no issues with nova, all animatios disabled , and it is still the fastest launcher for the note 3
I have tested the OP launcher extensively and its just a memory hog that uses huge animations sequences to mimick great responsiveness and lag free interface like an IPHONE does.
To me the time I spend watching icons dancing arround and homescreens panes traveling arround in a 3d universe , until they are of some use to me , that is lag.

What's wrong with go team?
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Chinese company, many rumors
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hightoohigh said:
What's wrong with go team?
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Their sms app used to constantly talk back to their servers and run literally hundreds of debug processes so they are both shady and terrible developers.

khaytsus said:
Their sms app used to constantly talk back to their servers and run literally hundreds of debug processes so they are both shady and terrible developers.
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Just because one app is weird doesn't make them bad developers. Could be bad management etc.
Plus, if I recall correctly, the Go team acquired Next launcher, because it used to be SPS Shell or something like that. (Note, the price stayed the same, just a rebrand).
But I guess it comes to personal preference, if you want to see nice effects that don't even lag when they are 3D, vs an uber fast launcher like Nova/Apex
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I found Next to be far too messy when I tried it. (Yes, 'tried'. It's €13,00 and my prepaid credit card does not do refunds.)
Oh yes, the 3D is very flashy, and the nifty little tricks with wallpapers is fun, but it's rather sluggish as a result. Not as snappy as Apex/Nova.
I've been using Apex Launcher Pro since day one. Not a single problem. Nova is known to have issues on the Note 3.

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I found Next to be far too messy when I tried it. (Yes, 'tried'. It's €13,00 and my prepaid credit card does not do refunds.)
Oh yes, the 3D is very flashy, and the nifty little tricks with wallpapers is fun, but it's rather sluggish as a result. Not as snappy as Apex/Nova.
I've been using Apex Launcher Pro since day one. Not a single problem. Nova is known to have issues on the Note 3.
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Just curious, what issues does Nova have?
I bought Apex Launcher Pro and love it!
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danieljamie said:
Just curious, what issues does Nova have?
I bought Apex Launcher Pro and love it!
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The only issue I had with nova is it would stutter slightly when swiping between home screens... maybe every 4 swipes I would notice it. I actually like to see the animations, so I prefer to keep the animations speed setting on "relaxed".
On the lightning fast animation speed of course there's no noticeable lag, but IMO on that setting it makes the ui feel older and too basic.

What functionality s-pen, air etc do you lose when you install a launcher?
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snoopycr said:
What functionality s-pen, air etc do you lose when you install a launcher?
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Nothing in that respect, just some Touchwiz Widgets are no longer accessible, like the big calendar one. But that's typical with every manufacturer, some stock launcher widgets can't be used on other launchers.
S-pen works fine on Nova.
Edit: BTW, with Nova (Prime?), you can make the status bar transparent on the homescreen.

There is one Launcher that rules them all. Action Launcher Pro from Chris M Lacy.
Dude it is tottaly wicked. It makes interactiin with your phone so much easier!
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I'm using nova prime on my note 3 and it's brilliant no lag at all used it n my note 2 aswell very stable no force closes over all highly recommend
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danieljamie said:
Just curious, what issues does Nova have?
I bought Apex Launcher Pro and love it!
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There were people who reported Nova kept crashing and lagging.

ShadowLea said:
I found Next to be far too messy when I tried it. (Yes, 'tried'. It's €13,00 and my prepaid credit card does not do refunds.)
Oh yes, the 3D is very flashy, and the nifty little tricks with wallpapers is fun, but it's rather sluggish as a result. Not as snappy as Apex/Nova.
I've been using Apex Launcher Pro since day one. Not a single problem. Nova is known to have issues on the Note 3.
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I "tried" next launcher but I found it too busy. The 3D was amazing but I simply just want to switch to another page I don't need some crazy fx. I also wanted to support the developer after I found a launcher I liked but I couldn't justify $17 for Next. I am happy with nova and haven't had any lag yet.
edit: can someone link me to the nova lag problems or explain what lags ?

I like aviate launcher.