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In protest

Seeing as the admins here are stubbornly refusing to create a dedicated sub forum for the x7510, I've set up a free forum which may be found here: http://htcathena.freeforums.org
Please note: I don't WANT to be running a seperate board and I'd prefer to have a sub forum here. However, for as long as the admins ignore our requests I'll keep that forum running.
Should a dedicated x7510 sub forum be created here I will close that forum down. Closing down may be deleting it, or if there were many useful posts simply preventing new posts, so that it dies a slower death over time.
This is NOT an attempt at blackmail, but rather me trying to avoid more devices being bricked.
PS: Please excuse the ads on that site - I've gone with the completely free option, so I'm saddled with the ads!

What's the big deal?
NanoRuler said:
Seeing as the admins here are stubbornly refusing to create a dedicated sub forum for the x7510, I've set up a free forum which may be found here: http://htcathena.freeforums.org
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What reason could the xda admins possibly have for not creating a sub-forum for the 7510? Or even an entirely new forum? Look at the Elf and the Vogue.
Anyone know the admins' reasoning on this?

Isn't in my mod powers to create a sub section... I am asking to the admins, again. I hope we will have some answers soon

sergiopi said:
Isn't in my mod powers to create a sub section... I am asking to the admins, again. I hope we will have some answers soon
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Thank you, although I have to say at this stage I'm quite annoyed with the admins, especially seeing as they cannot even be bothered to respond to any request!

elf and vogue are totally different devices which happen to look the same
one is cdma and one is gsm and they work in totally different ways. the vogue has 400mhz prcessor and the elf 201mhz
also to be perfectly honest, how can people not tell the difference between x7510 and x7500/x7501
you bought a device that cost £700 (according to expansys) so surely you know its model name. and because of the cost, if you see x7500/x7501 unlocker you will be wary of using it, even if you think its a typing error
and on the subject of the elf, the elf has 2 variants elf (64 ram and 128 rom) and elfin (128 ram and 256 rom)
both are different and only the elf has hard spl
flashing one rom for one onto the other will brick it
so the same probs as here
but they deal with it and have stickies saying how to distinguish between them and where to go for hat, and seperate guides for flashing roms onto the elf and elfin etc etc
so maybe thats whats neded here
i think the admins are probably fed up of people requesting fora only to have them empty:gene, pharos, juno, sedna are all pretty empty forums that were massively requested and yet not much comes out of them
and now i just counted the votes in the "we want an x7510 section" thread nd there are 33 in 3 months
yes 33
not exactly a huge number is it
But you may all think im just raining on your parade, but im not, I completely understand why you want a new section, but im just trying to highlight why the admins probably dont want it, there are so many new devices which have massive appeal, compared to a £700 device which is essentially an 18 month old device in new casing.
And so in conclusion, I think a sticky explaining he differences between x7510 and stuff is whats needed. Plus, cmones seemed keen to make (or try and make) you guys a hard spl, so why doesnt someone whose a senior (or old) member contact HER and see what she can come up with. she will probably need rom dumps and stuff, but I'm sure she can do it. after all she and others got custom roms on the shift.
night guys, and I hope it works out for you all, and nobody else bricks their devices...

rorydaredkign said:
And so in conclusion, I think a sticky explaining he differences between x7510 and stuff is whats needed. Plus, cmones seemed keen to make (or try and make) you guys a hard spl, so why doesnt someone whose a senior (or old) member contact HER and see what she can come up with. she will probably need rom dumps and stuff, but I'm sure she can do it. after all she and others got custom roms on the shift.
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Now THAT was helpful! Why didn't anybody else think about it!
But seriously, CMONEX confirmed she is working on a hard SPL/unlocker and happens to agree with the need for a seperate sub-forum, for a number of valid reasons.
The thing is that a sub-forum will not affect anybody else on XDA-Devs - it won't require more resources, nor more bandwidth. It takes a minute to set up and it may well save several devices.
So please tell me in great detail why there SHOULDN'T be a seperate sub-forum? Why SHOULDN'T things be better organised than the current "pile-everything-into-one-pot" mess? And how exactly will YOU be any worse off should a sub-forum be created?
You will be worse off, won't you? Why else would you be against it?

NanoRuler said:
Why SHOULDN'T things be better organised than the current "pile-everything-into-one-pot" mess?
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I agree with you on that, NanoRuler. E.g. without the latest Athena ROM link by sergiopi (thanks for it), I wasn't even able to compare all existing ROMs for the x7500 at a glance, there are too many threads spread over the entire forum.
Regarding the x7510, a new sub forum would possibly give a better overview. It hasn't been of major importance until now, but it will become necessary very fast, once the x7510 can be unlocked...we should get prepared for that moment. ;-)

rorydaredkign said:
also to be perfectly honest, how can people not tell the difference between x7510 and x7500/x7501
you bought a device that cost £700 (according to expansys) so surely you know its model name. and because of the cost, if you see x7500/x7501 unlocker you will be wary of using it, even if you think its a typing error
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Yes, except there was no indication NOT to run various tools against the x7510.
rorydaredkign said:
but they deal with it and have stickies saying how to distinguish between them and where to go for hat, and seperate guides for flashing roms onto the elf and elfin etc etc
so maybe thats whats neded here
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My, what an excellent example of good organisation....NOT. Maybe what's required is a rethink in how the forums are structured, eh? And maybe having distinct sub forums for the different models of Athena will help a great deal.
rorydaredkign said:
and now i just counted the votes in the "we want an x7510 section" thread nd there are 33 in 3 months
yes 33
not exactly a huge number is it
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I suggest you go and count again, bearing in mind there are actually requests in different places (perhaps another fringe benefit of piss-poor organisation?)
rorydaredkign said:
I completely understand why you want a new section
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Sure, buddy. You have me COMPLETELY convinced that you have our best interests at heart.
rorydaredkign said:
And so in conclusion, I think a sticky explaining he differences between x7510 and stuff is whats needed.
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And that will sort out the mess how exactly?
rorydaredkign said:
night guys, and I hope it works out for you all, and nobody else bricks their devices...
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Let me re-phrase your sentiment: I don't want you guys to benefit from a seperate section (even though I'm not directly affected!) and I certainly don't want things to become more organised and anyway there's so few of you that your opinion doesn't matter, but hey, here's to no more bricked devices!
I'll be polite here and let you choose the 1st word, but the second word of my reply is certainly "OFF!"

will_990 said:
I agree with you on that, NanoRuler. E.g. without the latest Athena ROM link by sergiopi (thanks for it), I wasn't even able to compare all existing ROMs for the x7500 at a glance, there are too many threads spread over the entire forum.
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you think thee are lots of roms here, go look at damond rom development and then tell us there are loads of roms here...
I really dont mind or care if theres a seperate section, but I can see why you want one, and also why the admins havent made it
I think a seperate section would actually help dev for us, as we could use your roms and port between the two and stuff.. it would lead to a better dev community here

nano, don't take your anger out on rory. He's not a mod and undeserving of your "**** off".
How about you have a few drinks and relax?

techntrek said:
nano, don't take your anger out on rory. He's not a mod and undeserving of your "**** off".
How about you have a few drinks and relax?
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Yes, he's not a mod, but he also did not need to try and build a case against the wishes of quite a few members here using poorly thought out strategies.
He was dismissive without having any reason to be and essentially stated that our opinion doesn't matter (although he didn't quite put it in those words).
Finally, I specifically did NOT tell him to **** off, but gave him some choice in the phrase.
Either somebody's part of the solution...

fair play
hope it works out for you guys

Forum created. This thread closed.
Further discussion here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438035
Mike

Nexus 2 by Samsung ?

http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/nexus-two-rumors-return-is-this-the-samsung-gingerbread-phone/
http://www.cityam.com/news-and-analysis/google-and-carphone-mobile-deal

Trying to figure out why this is posted here?

s15274n said:
Trying to figure out why this is posted here?
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let me give you a hint.......lot of people switched from Nexus 1 to Vibrant......Vibrant made by Samsung.....and both phones are Android

They better get rid of/improve RFS before declaring it a 'huge success'.

kolyan said:
let me give you a hint.......lot of people switched from Nexus 1 to Vibrant......Vibrant made by Samsung.....
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But this still has NOTHING to do with the vibrant.
A lot of people switched from the iPhone to the Vibrant, but does that mean we post everything about the iPhone here? NO.

Master™ said:
But this still has NOTHING to do with the vibrant.
A lot of people switched from the iPhone to the Vibrant, but does that mean we post everything about the iPhone here? NO.
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please stop trying to act like a mod, this IS a GENERAL section and most people with vibrants only check the vibrant forum... Let a real mod decide if it belongs or not.
That being said i doubt Samsung would release a Nexus series phone. Those are supposed to be like developer phones where it is very easy to root, unlock the bootloader, etc.
Also I don't think google would want an RFS system on a "google" phone.

jz9833 said:
please stop trying to act like a mod, this IS a GENERAL section and most people with vibrants only check the vibrant forum... Let a real mod decide if it belongs or not.
That being said i doubt Samsung would release a Nexus series phone. Those are supposed to be like developer phones where it is very easy to root, unlock the bootloader, etc.
Also I don't think good would want an RFS system on a "google" phone.
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Please stop trying to act like a mod, let a real mod decide what people can tell other people.
This is a general section for things concerning the vibrant, not general as in go wild with random things.

Master™ said:
But this still has NOTHING to do with the vibrant.
A lot of people switched from the iPhone to the Vibrant, but does that mean we post everything about the iPhone here? NO.
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Let me give you another hint......
Samsung is releasing Galaxy S2 (or Vibrant2) which might end up beeing the so called "Nexus 2"
So I would strongly advice reading or searching before posting...... don't u have this in your signature ?

jz9833 said:
please stop trying to act like a mod, this IS a GENERAL section and most people with vibrants only check the vibrant forum... Let a real mod decide if it belongs or not.
That being said i doubt Samsung would release a Nexus series phone. Those are supposed to be like developer phones where it is very easy to root, unlock the bootloader, etc.
Also I don't think good would want an RFS system on a "google" phone.
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How the hell am I acting like a MOD?
I was saying this doesn't have anything to do with the vibrant.
Just because I know where stuff should go, and said this wasn't the right spot doesn't make me a wanna be MOD. However it makes you a.. nvm

^ not acting like a mod, more like a person who needs to learn to search before posting instead of posting useless posts......

kolyan said:
^ not acting like a mod, more like a person who needs to learn to search before posting instead of posting useless posts......
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Quit mixing your story. You called me a wanna be MOD, now your saying I need to search before posting?
How the hell do I need to search? Not my fault that YOU posted something about a diff phone here, get over it & move on. Quit blaming me

Master™ said:
Quit mixing your story. You called me a wanna be MOD, now your saying I need to search before posting?
How the hell do I need to search? Not my fault that YOU posted something about a diff phone here, get over it & move on. Quit blaming me
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are you seriously...well not that smart or just blind ? where did I call you a MOD ? And how is Galaxy S2 not related to Galaxy S (aka Vibrant) ?
That signature is really not working for you.......

kolyan said:
are you seriously...well not that smart or just blind ? where did I call you a MOD ? And how is Galaxy S2 not related to Galaxy S (aka Vibrant) ?
That signature is really not working for you.......
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Ehh, sorry that was JZ whatever who said that.
But the Galaxy S, isnt only the Vibrant. It includes the fascinate, I9000, etc.
So it isnt directly related to the Vibrant, it is a whole diff phone.

If this does turn out to be true.. could it mean that gingerbread would at least be somewhat optimisted for samsung's processors?

Master™ said:
Ehh, sorry that was JZ whatever who said that.
But the Galaxy S, isnt only the Vibrant. It includes the fascinate, I9000, etc.
So it isnt directly related to the Vibrant, it is a whole diff phone.
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I dont know about you man, but my phone has a big Galaxy S logo on the back

kolyan said:
I dont know about you man, but my phone has a big Galaxy S logo on the back
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*FacePalm*
Yes, it is a Galaxy S model. But so are the other phones (Fascinate, I9000, etc)
You are talking about Nexus 2, not the Vibrant.
So it should of gone here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=256

dezshiz said:
If this does turn out to be true.. could it mean that gingerbread would at least be somewhat optimisted for samsung's processors?
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Well.....it is just a rumor. ps. the rumor is based on the fact that S2 is getting released around the time Gingerbread is and S2 is supposed to be the first Gingerbread phone.....if S2 is the first to run Gingerbread, it must be the next "Nexus" i guess.

Master™ said:
*FacePalm*
Yes, it is a Galaxy S model. But so are the other phones (Fascinate, I9000, etc)
You are talking about Nexus 2, not the Vibrant.
So it should of gone here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=256
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Lol, its obvious that when/if a galaxy s2 is released, the vibrant section will be renamed, thays why iys being posted here. Just like the captivate, epic facinate and so on are all mixed in the same section, all the same phone.
Haha jz, you are funny

Master™ said:
How the hell am I acting like a MOD?
I was saying this doesn't have anything to do with the vibrant.
Just because I know where stuff should go, and said this wasn't the right spot doesn't make me a wanna be MOD. However it makes you a.. nvm
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by posting you dont think it belong is an certain forum. if you really just felt that youd ignore the thread and let it die because no one replied, however, you had to add a post, giving this thread a bump, and more people saw it.
I know you are a developer for the vibrant and i respect you a lot for that. I honesty am really grateful for people like you who are willing to take their time to help everyone, however, I am frustrated by people posting in threads in this section like they are mods trying to regulate the forum.
If you look at most of the junk threads someone asks something they could of easily found, most of it is people flaming for OP which also happens to keep the thread alive. Don't people understand that if no one replies the thread dies? If you disagree with this thread, just let it die...

jz9833 said:
by posting you dont think it belong is an certain forum. if you really just felt that youd ignore the thread and let it die because no one replied, however, you had to add a post, giving this thread a bump, and more people saw it.
I know you are a developer for the vibrant and i respect you a lot for that. I honesty am really grateful for people like you who are willing to take their time to help everyone, however, I am frustrated by people posting in threads in this section like they are mods trying to regulate the forum.
If you look at most of the junk threads someone asks something they could of easily found, most of it is people flaming for OP which also happens to keep the thread alive. Don't people understand that if no one replies the thread dies? If you disagree with this thread, just let it die...
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Just because I said "This is the wrong section" doesn't mean I was acting like a MOD.
I was simply stating that it was posted in the wrong section, so hopefully the OP will not make the same mistake next time.
Also, I didn't "Flame" the OP. Someone started coming at me. Just FYI

[Req][Port]Doctorz Rom XXJVT

Hay guys it Dr.Ali here i know this is not a right place to post this thread but i need someone who can port the our Doctorz Rom to Captivate......we made this rom for Samsung Galaxy S and S2(coming soon) and we ported this also on Samsung Infuse 4G and now i need someone who can port this.
here is my original thread for Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263994
if anyone interested plz let me know.

IlluminatedOne said:
Why not? Its his own ROM and he is looking for Devs who are willing to port his ROM to captivate!
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And this is a rom I'd be most willing to try out.

b-eock said:
Switch the modem, kernel, and use the button fix.zip
Sent from my I897 using xda premium
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how do you expect someone who doesnt even own a captivate to know this? its good that captivate is still getting some love from devs. you could avoid scaring them away..
@OP what have you done in your rom to give it "long battery life"?

First of all sorry i also know thats annoying and for those i have no captivate phone so i didnt test it and i am also busy with 3 phones rom......so thanks and appreciate the efforts guys......thanks

also don't forget the buttons light up on screen touch fix. Optionally for the extra mile, remove traces to video calling. for kernel, pick a jvt kernel from this forum and it handles 180 and home key button mapping. that leaves you to apply haptic fix on home key and the above functions.

You get this rom worked out and i will try it. We need all the captivate roms we can get. Thanks
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using xda premium

Thread closed until I can get to a desktop and really see this.
Ok, now I've seen it. Really? This guy wants to have someone port his ROM to the Captivate, he asks for development help in the development forum (I'm moving it to General, where it really belongs until actual development takes place) , and he gets bashed for it? All you would have had to do was report the thread as being in the wrong forum, I would have moved it. Really, there's no need for the flaming, namecalling and insults I see here. If your post is gone, think about it....there were a few defenders whose posts are also gone to remove the discussion. Now carry on on topic.
Thread moved and reopened.

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Thread closed until I can get to a desktop and really see this.
Ok, now I've seen it. Really? This guy wants to have someone port his ROM to the Captivate, he asks for development help in the development forum (I'm moving it to General, where it really belongs until actual development takes place) , and he gets bashed for it? All you would have had to do was report the thread as being in the wrong forum, I would have moved it. Really, there's no need for the flaming, namecalling and insults I see here. If your post is gone, think about it....there were a few defenders whose posts are also gone to remove the discussion. Now carry on on topic.
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Thanks Reinbeau........

that only for s2 and infuse

ali_khalid5518 said:
Hay guys it Dr.Ali here i know this is not a right place to post this thread but i need someone who can port the our Doctorz Rom to Captivate......we made this rom for Samsung Galaxy S and S2(coming soon) and we ported this also on Samsung Infuse 4G and now i need someone who can port this.
here is my original thread for Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263994
if anyone interested plz let me know.
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Its not a huge under taking to port it to captivate...grab a reoriented kernel.
Remap the buttons so the home key works, fix a couple smali's (one in services.jar to make the capacitive buttons light when you touch the screen, and one in the Android.policy.jar to fix home haptic feedback)
Video call references are optional, not usable on captivate but won't hurt anything if left in. (unless you try to use it then it will FC of course)
Shouldn't take too long to do it yourself... I'll give it a go but i'm busy til Friday, so if you wanna try first go ahead

I dont know why !!!!

I am really thinking why our device in the in the " Low and Lagency Devices " section.
And i saw that samsung galaxy 3 (applo) and some other phone in the main section. As applo has a ics and jb whice is more buggy than our phone. And it is a bit cheaper than our sl. Anyone has an idea of this. Or atleast ifour phone have a stable ics or jb and a kernel 3.X it must be on the main section.
Thanks.
And sorry if this thread should not be there

Mebin Robin said:
I am really thinking why our device in the in the " Low and Lagency Devices " section.
And i saw that samsung galaxy 3 (applo) and some other phone in the main section. As applo has a ics and jb whice is more buggy than our phone. And it is a bit cheaper than our sl. Anyone has an idea of this. Or atleast ifour phone have a stable ics or jb and a kernel 3.X it must be on the main section.
Thanks.
And sorry if this thread should not be there
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Our phone activity is low compared to the Apollo. I have been in the galaxy 3 community for very long and the activity there is easily twice of ours. It doesn't mean better development means you will not be in the legacy and low activity devices. This has been brought up many times and when the time is ripe(or in this case when we have enough activity), we will be moved out.

Does it means we need more devs...
DONT FORGET TO PRESS THE THANKS BUTTON IF HELPED YOU IN ANY WAY

^^ No. It means we need more people to buy this phone and then register and be active on XDA.

That is what i mean !!!
DONT FORGET TO PRESS THE THANKS BUTTON IF HELPED YOU IN ANY WAY

Mebin Robin said:
Does it means we need more devs...
DONT FORGET TO PRESS THE THANKS BUTTON IF HELPED YOU IN ANY WAY
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We need more member with more developers.

We need more devs BUT to get out of legacy and low activity what we need is more members, not devs

Noob on a op 7 pro ... Target practice or ...?

Ok.. firstly.. thank u in advance for any responses..
I'm completely in awe of this device.. has some potential but at this given moment I'd like to toss it up like a clay pidgon..
My goal is to at least have the thing run proper.
I'm very new to development self taught. Worked mostly with Samsung's.
My issue currently is
No voice available?
No camera always fails and reboots
Flashed to international version from T-Mobile
Bootloader locked
What is wrong here? I may not be smart in this area but at least I'm not super stupid..?
Comments welcome please

Shine4theh8ers said:
Ok.. firstly.. thank u in advance for any responses..
I'm completely in awe of this device.. has some potential but at this given moment I'd like to toss it up like a clay pidgon..
My goal is to at least have the thing run proper.
I'm very new to development self taught. Worked mostly with Samsung's.
My issue currently is
No voice available?
No camera always fails and reboots
Flashed to international version from T-Mobile
Bootloader locked
What is wrong here? I may not be smart in this area but at least I'm not super stupid..?
Comments welcome please
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Wrong Thread for this question. Try posting your own thread to get some help