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I woke up this morning at 5am an found that my Thunderbolt was running very hot. 60 degrees Celsius to be exact and the phones charging led was flashing from amber to green very quickly. I pulled the phone off its stock charger and pulled the battery to find that the battery its self was very hot and even producing and odd smell. I let the phone cool for five mins an once cold to the touch, I installed my spare battery and with heavy use, I am back to running temp of 34c and not sure what caused this??? Phone is rooted an running Bamf 1.6.2 overclocked to 1.4 and has been running like this since may 5th with no issues. I have noticed in the past two days, so very rapid battery drain but haven't installed anything new and i have all HTC sense apps not syncing... Any ideas?
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Do you use SetCPU to overclock? I would recommend it, as I think it would've prevented your phone from overheating.
I have 3 profiles set up, and then have the overall max set to 1.4ghz and min set to 245mhz using Smartass. I've found it's always a good idea to have a profile set up to limit the overclocking when the temperature is >50C, to prevent damage to the CPU. I have a profile to limit the max OC when the phone is charging, to help prevent it from overheating. I also use a profile to limit the max when the screen is off, since you don't need the extra speed then, and it helps on battery life. My profiles are:
Temp > 50C - Max=768; Min=245
Screen Off - Max=368; Min=245
Charging - Max=1024; Min=245
Just set up all these profiles and even added another. Thanks for the tip! I hope this helps with battery life also.
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Just set up all these profiles and even added another. Thanks for the tip! I hope this helps with battery life also.
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No problem, man. Hope it helps!
My battery life is night and day different! Thank you again!
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Are any of the governors better than the others for handling this?
The goverer used really depends on your own personal usage of the phone. Experment and see which works best for you. FWIW I use interactive and am pretty happy with it.
Ill try that one out. I found Ondemand to waste too much battery, and smartass to be passable.
i just had something weird happen myself. i just installed NONS3NS3 rom and then 'adownloader'. had it downloading a file then all of a sudden the phone locked up and was completely unresponsive. i pulled the battery and it was incredibly hot. waited for it to cool down and now everything is normal again. bizarre, because i could use adownloader just fine when i was on CM7.
My phone gets warm to when i charge it but not 60c. The kernel can cause this too.
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I woke up this morning at 5am an found that my Thunderbolt was running very hot. 60 degrees Celsius to be exact and the phones charging led was flashing from amber to green very quickly. I pulled the phone off its stock charger and pulled the battery to find that the battery its self was very hot and even producing and odd smell. I let the phone cool for five mins an once cold to the touch, I installed my spare battery and with heavy use, I am back to running temp of 34c and not sure what caused this??? Phone is rooted an running Bamf 1.6.2 overclocked to 1.4 and has been running like this since may 5th with no issues. I have noticed in the past two days, so very rapid battery drain but haven't installed anything new and i have all HTC sense apps not syncing... Any ideas?
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I would probably not use that battery again. Sounds like it crapped out on you. 2 days of decreasing battery life, than that...
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I would probably not use that battery again. Sounds like it crapped out on you. 2 days of decreasing battery life, than that...
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I don't think the battery has any issue. When a Li-on battery fails, it will create a lot of heat, but it will also alter the resistance and voltage characteristics in ways the phone will detect.
If SetCPU resolved the issue, then you've got an issue with your ROM. It shouldn't do that under normal circumstances, and even if you're using SetCPU, something is still trying to use resources abusively. I'd try a different ROM or radio and get SetCPU off of there. It's actually abusive in itself with resources. It's great for testing OC settings, but for long term implementations of settings, a script is the ideal tool for the job as it implements setting directly to the kernel with no further intervention.
As someone who was looking to extend battery life, I downloaded "Battery Widget". After 9 hours off the charger and maybe 2 1/2 hours with the display on, I looked to see what was using up the battery the most. Everything from the OS to web to Wi-Fi was at no more than 2% but the display was at 95%. I know its a huge display and its going to use a lot of battery but is this much normal? The battery was dead in about 10 hours.
Sounds like you have the brightness up on it, I would turn it down a little if you have not done so already. Mine is on about a quarter brightness and it is only 79% and the battery lasts the entire day.
Are you on stock ROM? If so, you may want to consider flashing a custom ROM. When I flashed Infused ROM, my battery life significantly improved. And I am not exaggerating... I would drop 100 > 90% in about 5 hours before, now I can easily go 9-10 hours from 100 > 90% with light use.
Regarding display, please see this thread which may help with that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124102
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Are you on stock ROM? If so, you may want to consider flashing a custom ROM. When I flashed Infused ROM, my battery life significantly improved. And I am not exaggerating... I would drop 100 > 90% in about 5 hours before, now I can easily go 9-10 hours from 100 > 90% with light use.
Regarding display, please see this thread which may help with that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124102
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My screen was on 100%. I changed it to 50%. Hopefully I will see a difference.
I am on stock ROM, however, I've been looking alot into Infused. This is my first android phone and I'm a little weary of custom ROMs being buggy. But of course those fears are pretty much unfounded since I've never seen a phone with a custom ROM in use.
BTW, thank you guys, or gals, for such quick responses.
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My screen was on 100%. I changed it to 50%. Hopefully I will see a difference.
I am on stock ROM, however, I've been looking alot into Infused. This is my first android phone and I'm a little weary of custom ROMs being buggy. But of course those fears are pretty much unfounded since I've never seen a phone with a custom ROM in use.
BTW, thank you guys, or gals, for such quick responses.
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I understand your concerns and if you are not comfortable, do not do it. However, I can say that the Infused ROM works much better for me than the stock ROM and I highly recommend it. It is much faster and better on battery. I can tell you that the version of Infused ROM I am on is not buggy and much better than stock. Cannot say anything about the latest version since I decided to stay on a previous version because I am so happy with it.
with your brightness up to 100%, i'm not surprised your display eats so much battery.
i'm still on stock and i used to run my display at 50% all the time. then i turned it down to 0% and i still have no issues seeing the screen in any kind of light, even outside. i only turn the brightness up to 50% when i'm playing a game or watching a video.
try 0%, you'd be surprised!
I have the nexus S and the Infuse. You're right, for some reason the Infuse Display percentage is WAYYY high!! My brightness is usually at 50%. But the Display is the cause of 90% of my battery drainage. It's very weird.
Okay so an update.... I've had my screen on 0% for the past couple days and I installed infused a couple of days ago as well. I haven't seen any kind of improvment. ( display is still in the 85%-90% range of battery usage.) Is it possible I just have a defective phone? I love this phone and but im really frustrated with havung to keep an eye on how much juice I have left
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What activities are you doing on your phone? Are you watching video or just emailing?
Even knowing that, I'm not sure what percentage one should expect the display to consume
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I understand your concerns and if you are not comfortable, do not do it. However, I can say that the Infused ROM works much better for me than the stock ROM and I highly recommend it. It is much faster and better on battery. I can tell you that the version of Infused ROM I am on is not buggy and much better than stock. Cannot say anything about the latest version since I decided to stay on a previous version because I am so happy with it.
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+1 on Infused 1.5. Rock solid and amazing battery life.
Huh weird. Im running stock and I had brightness around 30 to 40 percent and my usage for the screen was 66 percent after like 6 to 7 hrs
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What activities are you doing on your phone? Are you watching video or just emailing?
Even knowing that, I'm not sure what percentage one should expect the display to consume
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No I'm not watching videos. Just using the web, words with friends, messaging, and messing around with the home screen.
A little more info...... last night I unplugged my phone from the charger at 4 am with 100% charge. When I woke at 8:30 am it had 97% charge and said the display was causing 37% of the drainage( I hadn't touched it since 4:00 am). At 8:40 I started playing around on XDA app and, starting at 97%, after twenty five minutes I'm now down to 88% battery with the display causing 80% of the drainage.
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No I'm not watching videos. Just using the web, words with friends, messaging, and messing around with the home screen.
A little more info...... last night I unplugged my phone from the charger at 4 am with 100% charge. When I woke at 8:30 am it had 97% charge and said the display was causing 37% of the drainage( I hadn't touched it since 4:00 am). At 8:40 I started playing around on XDA app and, starting at 97%, after twenty five minutes I'm now down to 88% battery with the display causing 80% of the drainage.
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It is all a matter of how much you are using your phone and how long the screen is on for. It is not unusual for the screen to eat up 75% or more of your battery power if you are contastly turning the screen on or viewing things on it.
My display is sitting at around 80% right now, and on my old Nexus One, it was usually around 78%.
I don't take personal calls while at work, so almost all of what I do with my phone while at work keeps the display on constantly. I do text and check websites that are blocked at work as well as conduct all personal or financial business using my phone.
Things like calls turn the display off and other things like streaming or playing music will let the display time out and keep working.
The things you are doing are not processor intensive, wifi intensive, radio intensive, but do work the screen.
Are you running a live wallpaper?
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No I'm not using live wall paper. I understand that the display is going to use a lot of battery. I guess what I'm asking is it normal for the battery to go down 10% points while looking at Xda forums for twenty minutes. If its normal ill deal with it but if its not I can still take it back and replace it. And thank you all for taking an interest in this thread.
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No I'm not using live wall paper. I understand that the display is going to use a lot of battery. I guess what I'm asking is it normal for the battery to go down 10% points while looking at Xda forums for twenty minutes. If its normal ill deal with it but if its not I can still take it back and replace it. And thank you all for taking an interest in this thread.
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Actually my experience is that the XDA app has some sort of memory leak. It takes a long time to load for me and crashes about 20% of the time for me. I use the browser most the time, and find it is very well optimized for smartphones.
And yes, your battery use is fairly normal if you aren't gaming, phone calling or downloading. In fact my use is at 87% for the screen. But still, I have 70% battery left and only an hour more of work.
I am not sure if I can explain this properly. I am not a word person.
What you see is a rolling average. If you were to not use the phone at all. Let it sit completely idle without firing on the display. You would see that the display is using a low to zero percentage (of course you could not, in fact, see that). You would find that wifi or 3g or android system (or some other task) are at 95% more or less.
The display being the most power consuming component on the device will make a dramatice change to these percentages the moment your fire it. Turning on the display simply to check the battery stats will have run the display's battery percent far higher than the others quicker than you can probably even get to the screen to check the stats.
Keep in mind this is a rolling average. It does not indicate fault or that the display is CONSTANTLY drawing 95% of the battery. It is just using 90% more of the the battery than something at 5% when it is in use.
One should chalk this up to completely normal. Make a poll if you want. You are likely to find near 100% of respondents will reply that display is highest in their stats (unless they have some kind of accessory or something that draws more power)
Nexus S = TFT LCD
Infuse = SAMOLED
To reduce battery drain from screen...use more blacks. Black on SAMOLED screens are actually pixels turned off...while TFT LCD and retina displays jave a pixel displaying black.
Hope this helps put more into perspective.
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I have the nexus S and the Infuse. You're right, for some reason the Infuse Display percentage is WAYYY high!! My brightness is usually at 50%. But the Display is the cause of 90% of my battery drainage. It's very weird.
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tell me you did not just say that the nexus s has an lcd display... its a galaxy s phone, made by samsung. it has an amoled screen!
well, in his defense there is a SLCD version of it somewhere in europe/asia.
What do you guys do to maximize your battery life? I just can't seem to get decent life. Average is probably 5 hours with heavy usage.
Any recommendations?
Sorry if there is already a thread, I don't have a computer right now and I don't think I can search on tapatalk.
Thanks in advance.
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The usual - brightness as low as you can stand, radios not in use turned off, screen timeout 15 seconds, 200-1400 conservative governor in SetCPU.
Search AutoKiller in the market -- choose "optimal" profile, so far has given me an extra two hours today over what I got yesterday.
5h of heavy use is good already.
You can tweak your idle batt life, 2g-only, undervolted kernel, avoiding power hungry rom.
Idle battery life is just amazing with stock... just test it over night, 6hrs get 2/3% for me.
I can get 30hrs with 4hrs with screen on, the screen is the key here, i can get 5hrs with 4hrs with screen on too. ;o)
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Idle battery life is just amazing with stock... just test it over night, 6hrs get 2/3% for me.
I can get 30hrs with 4hrs with screen on, the screen is the key here, i can get 5hrs with 4hrs with screen on too. ;o)
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Try a kernel that is made to optimise batt life with display active, like the XTEUV92 Trinity kernel.
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Try a kernel that is made to optimise batt life with display active, like the XTEUV92 Trinity kernel.
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I tried almost every single combination of rom + kernel. And for me, pure stock has the best battery life, by far.
But i'm getting bored and should flash something... )
Ps: afaik trinity doesnt work with stock. Did it change?
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thiagodark said:
I tried almost every single combination of rom + kernel. And for me, pure stock has the best battery life, by far.
But i'm getting bored and should flash something... )
Ps: afaik trinity doesnt work with stock. Did it change?
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See my signature, stock (rooted and removed soom Google apps) with Trinity, works together just fine
How would you define "heavy" usage?
Also, what does your "battery use" stats say? (Settings - About Phone - Battery Use)
5 hours of truly heavy usage (online gaming, for instance) is actually to be expected.
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See my signature, stock (rooted and removed soom Google apps) with Trinity, works together just fine
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i'm using the same stock 2.3.4 as your signature and tried the morfic kernel from yours, but got no lock at all, freezes and reboots...
that's a little strange for me, first time i see it in my device... =o\\
johnbibbs said:
What do you guys do to maximize your battery life? I just can't seem to get decent life. Average is probably 5 hours with heavy usage.
Any recommendations?
Sorry if there is already a thread, I don't have a computer right now and I don't think I can search on tapatalk.
Thanks in advance.
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You can create a custom prl setting. Turn wifi to never sleep when you're at home... Have the prl to auto *CDMA or GSM* Which ever your network is on. (This goes to all Nexus S. users). So you have wifi on with a signal and 3g off. The phone stays in 2g for calls and uses wifi for data. Turn off google location services while your at home, turn off roaming, turn all of that off. I get about 13 hours of battery life with heavy usage. People think wifi drains your battery but it doesn't if you have mobile data turned off. When you have 3g turned on it's constantly searching for a better connection. If you have wifi on and a strong connection it isn't constantly polling.
are there any charging habits that would help prolong battery life? I usually just charge my phone every night cause, if I remember correctly, these batteries don't have a memory or anything. anyone know if that is the smartest thing to do?
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are there any charging habits that would help prolong battery life? I usually just charge my phone every night cause, if I remember correctly, these batteries don't have a memory or anything. anyone know if that is the smartest thing to do?
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I hope you don't mean overnight. I don't know if phones have auto-cutoff feature (a la laptops), but it's safer just not to charge overnight.
I personally use an extension that has a timer built-in. Nifty. Set the timer, plug the phone in, it will automatically start and stop the charging at the predetermined times. I usually time the charging to end right before I wake up, so the battery doesn't stay fully charged for too long. I heard batteries corrode faster when they're fully charged.
When my battery life starts getting shorter than usual, I let them drain until the phone turns off automatically (well I actually try not to get to that point, but seldom succeeded ), and as soon as possible charge it until full.
Usually the battery holds longer then. It has something to do with teaching the battery about the true empty and true full.. or something.....
AFAIK. CMIIW.
doesn't the nexus s have a built in cut-off feature so it will only charge to 95% though? I figure that would take care of the full charge issue. i'm also not sure if lithium ion batteries have a memory, but you could always reset the battery stats if you're on root to compensate for the whole draining and fully charging thing.
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doesn't the nexus s have a built in cut-off feature so it will only charge to 95% though? I figure that would take care of the full charge issue. i'm also not sure if lithium ion batteries have a memory, but you could always reset the battery stats if you're on root to compensate for the whole draining and fully charging thing.
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Battery stats! That's the word I was looking for No I wasn't referring to the memory effect
I don't know what would happen when the cut-off feature kicks up. My Nexus S still shows a charging icon even a while after full, so I don't wanna risk it.
The best way is by touching the charger unit after a while and see if it's warm/hot. If it is, it's still charging. But you gotta give it time to cool down first (after it's finished charging) Haven't gotten around to it, though. Always forgot to check the charger
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Battery stats! That's the word I was looking for No I wasn't referring to the memory effect
I don't know what would happen when the cut-off feature kicks up. My Nexus S still shows a charging icon even a while after full, so I don't wanna risk it.
The best way is by touching the charger unit after a while and see if it's warm/hot. If it is, it's still charging. But you gotta give it time to cool down first (after it's finished charging) Haven't gotten around to it, though. Always forgot to check the charger
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lol, I know that my phone for sure won't charge to 100% from watching it, so even after a night of charging it's still at 95%. I've read a few explanations on this forum about the whole not fully charging thing too, so i'm pretty sure that it's like that on purpose.
I'm not too sure how to go about this, but when I try to charge my nexus 5, regardless of the cable or charger i use, it won't charge faster than 1a unless I blow into the micro USB port hard, and I'm not sure if it's dust, because if I unplug it and plug it back in again it will go back down to 1a charging, when i blow into it, it can charge as high as 1700mAh...
Sorry for the noob question, it's my first post.
What are you using to determine the mAh?
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I'm not too sure how to go about this, but when I try to charge my nexus 5, regardless of the cable or charger i use, it won't charge faster than 1a unless I blow into the micro USB port hard, and I'm not sure if it's dust, because if I unplug it and plug it back in again it will go back down to 1a charging, when i blow into it, it can charge as high as 1700mAh...
Sorry for the noob question, it's my first post.
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What are you using to determine the mAh?
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He's just going through throttling which is normal. My phone does the same when battery is higher than 80%. My phone charges at 1.7A from 0-80% then 1A to 90%, then 0.6A to 100%. It's all pre dictated by the onboard battery chip
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He's just going through throttling which is normal. My phone does the same when battery is higher than 80%. My phone charges at 1.7A from 0-80% then 1A to 90%, then 0.6A to 100%. It's all pre dictated by the onboard battery chip
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Yeah, or that. But if he's measuring the mAh from within Android its kinda inaccurate too anyways.
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Yeah, or that. But if he's measuring the mAh from within Android its kinda inaccurate too anyways.
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Yeah true, I find the estimation by current widget to be alright for general current usage when comparing chargers. As long as the battery doesn't take several hours to charge, there's no need to be concerned
It was below 80%, and i realize that current estimates aren't 100% accurate but I don't think they would be 600mah different to the original...
I'm using battery monitor widget, I'll post screenshots when my battery drops to about 70%.
I'm not sure if my micro USB port is faulty or maybe it's just dusty, even though it doesn't look dusty, does anyone else have this same issue?
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I'm using battery monitor widget, but it shouldn't vary so much just by blowing into the charging port, should it?
Here's before and after blowing into it, I'm using the nexus charging accessory from the play store with a 1.8a output.
I know exactly what you're going through, OP. This technique was the only way I could Legend of Zelda to work.
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I know exactly what you're going through, OP. This technique was the only way I could Legend of Zelda to work.
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Haha, which fittingly has been described by Nintendo to be a placebo effect. If you just took the cartridge out and placed it back in, apparently that had the same chance of working.
I think the same can be said for this situation.
OP, mA current as reported by Android jumps all over the place. I could take a screenshot of it showing 1600mA, 1000mA and 600mA all within 20 seconds of each other. The only thing that you can do to try and prove this is happening (which I seriously doubt) is to use a log to plot the charging level over time. Even then the results could be skewed by whatever the phone happens to be doing during that time.
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Haha, which fittingly has been described by Nintendo to be a placebo effect. If you just took the cartridge out and placed it back in, apparently that had the same chance of working.
I think the same can be said for this situation.
OP, mA current as reported by Android jumps all over the place. I could take a screenshot of it showing 1600mA, 1000mA and 600mA all within 20 seconds of each other. The only thing that you can do to try and prove this is happening (which I seriously doubt) is to use a log to plot the charging level over time. Even then the results could be skewed by whatever the phone happens to be doing during that time.
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No that's not it, it does junp a little but never that much for me, it might be a problem with your charger if you're getting that...
Changed the rom and kernel and the problem was solved, i still can't explain it but meh, I'm happy with it now, if only I could do something about battery life now...
You can only do so much with 2300mah in such a high powered device...
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No that's not it, it does junp a little but never that much for me, it might be a problem with your charger if you're getting that...
Changed the rom and kernel and the problem was solved, i still can't explain it but meh, I'm happy with it now, if only I could do something about battery life now...
You can only do so much with 2300mah in such a high powered device...
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This was with the stock 1.2A charger. It's actually just my phone's usage constantly changing that causes the spikes, if logs were able to update more than once per second it would be jumping even more as I'm able to see with manual refresh. This happens during charging, full load and idle situations but your issue might have had something to do with the USB fast charge settings in certain ROMs.
I find the 2300mAh battery can be pushed surprisingly far, depending on your usage. If you're willing to sacrifice certain settings it can make things easier. This is on stock and unrooted, 20% brightness. I disabled Locations, Auto Syncs only allowed periodically at preset times, and used apps that are fairly battery efficient.
That was mostly WiFi, but this was with more mobile usage. Two work days on a weak 3G signal, 40% brightness using mostly Hangouts, Feedly, and 2 hours of video. Check out the [Battery Life Help] thread for more tips.
That's pretty impressive, i usually get about 3 hours SoT, with a bit under an hour phone calls usually and occasional snapchat, usually just internet browsing, underclocked to 1.7 and i almost half an hour SoT improvement without any loss to performance, cause i don't use my phone for gaming...
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This was with the stock 1.2A charger. It's actually just my phone's usage constantly changing that causes the spikes, if logs were able to update more than once per second it would be jumping even more as I'm able to see with manual refresh. This happens during charging, full load and idle situations but your issue might have had something to do with the USB fast charge settings in certain ROMs.
I find the 2300mAh battery can be pushed surprisingly far, depending on your usage. If you're willing to sacrifice certain settings it can make things easier. This is on stock and unrooted, 20% brightness. I disabled Locations, Auto Syncs only allowed periodically at preset times, and used apps that are fairly battery efficient.
That was mostly WiFi, but this was with more mobile usage. Two work days on a weak 3G signal, 40% brightness using mostly Hangouts, Feedly, and 2 hours of video. Check out the [Battery Life Help] thread for more tips.
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Hello ..
I am getting amazing battery life since I got 6.0 .. Before with lollipop I used to get around 5 hours on screen time. Amazingly though I hit 6.30 hours on the first day after update, and this with wireless, mobile data and Bluetooth on. And no data saving and screen on 70% which is amazing.
Good job Motorola
Excellent I would say
Excellent batt life with this new update very impressive how a software help the hardware to accomplish that task.
I replaced my STYLE and got a new one two days back. The old one would be dead even though it has 80%+ battery.
The current one is pretty good compared with the old unit. I got 4+ hours of SOT and I was on 4G and WiFi all the time. Was using it heavily for browsing and chat.
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I replaced my STYLE and got a new one two days back. The old one would be dead even though it has 80%+ battery.
The current one is pretty good compared with the old unit. I got 4+ hours of SOT and I was on 4G and WiFi all the time. Was using it heavily for browsing and chat.
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This is not bad at all. What I am saying is after MM update battery life increased about 1.5 hours extra SOT
Perhaps the update fixed something else? Looking at the MM update from L, there appears to be nothing besides Doze, which only works when the device is still and not used. I notice perhaps 15% better battery life if using the device sporadically during the day (medium use for me). With heavier use, I notice zero difference so far.
I was hoping some kernel adjustments were made, but the device spikes with heat about the same. I first thought it was less, but notice the same apps get the device very warm to hot (the GPU is over it's head with 1440p). Standby time is a lot better though, but only a significant improvement if lighter use though the day (so Doze can be a factor).
Usage is relative only to the user though
How do you get such great battery performance? I barely manage to get 3 hours SOT.
When the device is idle there's no drain, i only lose 2-3% overnight. But when the device is active the battery drains very quickly.
Tried a lot of battery saving stuff, greenify, powernap, and so on, but no luck.
I'm on MM stock rooted. Having a lot of apps installed. May this be the culprit?
dyonissos said:
How do you get such great battery performance? I barely manage to get 3 hours SOT.
When the device is idle there's no drain, i only lose 2-3% overnight. But when the device is active the battery drains very quickly.
Tried a lot of battery saving stuff, greenify, powernap, and so on, but no luck.
I'm on MM stock rooted. Having a lot of apps installed. May this be the culprit?
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If 20% brightness or less, all you do is web surf and a little Youtube, with good LTE signal or wifi and VERY little use of apps that force the GPU to push 1440p, you can get five hours. Everything is relative to the user. That's it.
Counting stock apps, I have 395 apps and 5GB free (64GB model). based on MM battery report, I have no apps that are background battery demons.
rushless said:
If 20% brightness or less, all you do is web surf and a little Youtube, with good LTE signal or wifi and VERY little use of apps that force the GPU to push 1440p, you can get five hours. Everything is relative to the user. That's it.
Counting stock apps, I have 395 apps and 5GB free (64GB model). based on MM battery report, I have no apps that are background battery demons.
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Are you talking just 1440p video in general or are you talking 1440p games?
I'm lucky if I get 2 hours of SoT. I can't tell if Android Wear is eating my battery or if it's Sprint, despite having a decent signal. Bluetooth and Cell Standby are chewing up the majority of my battery power. I think the network management is trying to shuffle my phone between their three frequencies and while at work, I can only get on the 1900MHz PCS band due to having to use a repeater.
brholt6 said:
Are you talking just 1440p video in general or are you talking 1440p games?
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Some games and apps run at 1440p and choke the GPU. They stand out by running very warm to hot and drain the battery more quickly.
dyonissos said:
How do you get such great battery performance? I barely manage to get 3 hours SOT.
When the device is idle there's no drain, i only lose 2-3% overnight. But when the device is active the battery drains very quickly.
Tried a lot of battery saving stuff, greenify, powernap, and so on, but no luck.
I'm on MM stock rooted. Having a lot of apps installed. May this be the culprit?
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Yes the apps do drain battery.
I uninstalled one particular email app that alone would drain 6% daily!
Anyway this time I got is without gaming. Mostly chatting and browsing and a lot of movies (vlc). I think that day I watched not less than 3-4 hours of continuous movies on the phone.
The only thing I did differently than before is removing unnecessary app permissions and notifications. Other than that I have done nothing. Like I said I do not try to save battery because I always have power source near by, but this 6.30 hours SOT i s awesome I tell you.
Based on my little experience with Android some apps will screw up the phone for no reason. First time I got the phone I got around 3 hours SOT with so many unneeded apps, and I did not know which app is draining my battery so I formatted the phone, and started installing apps one by one and watching the battery. And I managed to hit 4-5 hours with lollipop. Now with the update I got this and I was shocked.
Fully back to stock, unrooted, bootlocker relocked.
Upgraded to MM via OTA.
Installed all my apps via Play Store. Until now, i always restored my apps via TiBu, including data/settings.
I'm curious if my battery life will improve.
Will post the outcome, if any
Cheers!
A lot of the time my phone is just sitting on my desk. It used to say I would get around 1-2 days battery life from it sitting there doing nothing. After MM it says there is 8 days left. I have had it unplugged all day and even with some moderate use I am only at 95%. The doze mode really makes a big impact in stand by times!
rushless said:
Perhaps the update fixed something else? Looking at the MM update from L, there appears to be nothing besides Doze, which only works when the device is still and not used. I notice perhaps 15% better battery life if using the device sporadically during the day (medium use for me). With heavier use, I notice zero difference so far.
I was hoping some kernel adjustments were made, but the device spikes with heat about the same. I first thought it was less, but notice the same apps get the device very warm to hot (the GPU is over it's head with 1440p). Standby time is a lot better though, but only a significant improvement if lighter use though the day (so Doze can be a factor).
Usage is relative only to the user though
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I think it did do something to the apps. The way you can block apps from getting access to location or other services is pretty impressive. I love that as I hated that apps would have access to everything on my phone and I cannot do anything about it. Now I can and this particular feature made me love Android even more after I switched two months back.
Is there something wrong with me. I only get 2 to 2 1/2 hours battery tops and actually I've tried amplify (paid version), and power nap and they don't seem to help much. I have only got 3 hours once since I got this phone. Is it just AT&T maybe?
I'd like to mention something else. Probably not related at all, but ..
My old MXS was a faulty unit (as I mentioned in my previous post). Once I got a new replacement, I have not yet charged the phone using Turbo Charger. I am charging it with Mi Pad charger (non-turbo). Yes, it took about 2+ hours to go from 30 to 100%.
Old MXS was always charged with turbo charger and I was getting pretty bad SOT and the baterry would drain as fast as it would charge. Does it have to do something with using a normal vs turbo charger?
I stop pretty much all background services and apps not in use. The only active applications are firefox, whatsapp and VLC.
My screen is set to 50% brightness with adaptive brightness ON. Moto X display and attentive display is ON.
Non-root (planning to root soon) and Moto ROM.
mohan_168 said:
I'd like to mention something else. Probably not related at all, but ..
My old MXS was a faulty unit (as I mentioned in my previous post). Once I got a new replacement, I have not yet charged the phone using Turbo Charger. I am charging it with Mi Pad charger (non-turbo). Yes, it took about 2+ hours to go from 30 to 100%.
Old MXS was always charged with turbo charger and I was getting pretty bad SOT and the baterry would drain as fast as it would charge. Does it have to do something with using a normal vs turbo charger?
I stop pretty much all background services and apps not in use. The only active applications are firefox, whatsapp and VLC.
My screen is set to 50% brightness with adaptive brightness ON. Moto X display and attentive display is ON.
Non-root (planning to root soon) and Moto ROM.
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Maybe if it is a faulty device. I use turbo and i t has nothing to do with battery life.
Notstewie said:
Maybe if it is a faulty device. I use turbo and i t has nothing to do with battery life.
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Probably yes. But i would charge on non turbo for two weeks so that I get definite data for comparison.
timde9 said:
Is there something wrong with me. I only get 2 to 2 1/2 hours battery tops and actually I've tried amplify (paid version), and power nap and they don't seem to help much. I have only got 3 hours once since I got this phone. Is it just AT&T maybe?
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Less than 3 hours is not good bro, really anything below 4 hours is just bad. You better figure out what is draining your battery, or maybe it Is a bad unit?
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Probably yes. But i would charge on non turbo for two weeks so that I get definite data for comparison.
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what difference does it make if it is charged slowly or not??
It should not matter, if the battery is not keeping the power that means it is defective, nothing to do with slow or fast charging.