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New Idea for helping save battery...

I have a friend that sent me this message today, which sounds like a great idea:
I've been messing with setcpu and trying out some underclocking profiles. Underclocking while the screen is off as well as reducing the CPU power has gotten me 75% battery left after 8 hours. This is with constant emails but no wireless, bluetooth, or gps. This is better than I was getting under windows mobile.

Using a complete black background as your desktop background screen also helps with battery life. The black areas dont use battery power.

If you install one of the cpu meters, it will show that there is automatic underclocking... mine says it has been running at 100MHz for 76% of the time (1 day uptime).
Android System Info will tell you this.
Now, I'm not sure if this is the same as what you are doing though.

You know, I believe that is correct. I don't know if he is getting any advantage or not. I'll forward the info to him and see what he thinks.

ConceptVBS said:
Using a complete black background as your desktop background screen also helps with battery life. The black areas dont use battery power.
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That only helps if you spend a significant amount of time on your phone's home screen or hit buttons a lot when the phone is in your pocket.

I've found that the best way to save battery life is to use manual brightness. Auto brightness is just too bright. In fact some newer firmware hidden on samsung's site does make auto brightness a bit dimmer.
Using manual brightness I get about one hour and fifteen minutes of screen time per 10% of battery. I get about an hour per ten percent at work, where it's brighter. I get about half that with auto-brightness.

I think one good way to test which i am going to do to tonight is charge your phone and right before you go to bed unplug it and let it run through the night and in the morning see what sucks the most battery. i'm going to assume it should be "phone idle" but if its cell standby then something is sucking data, someone correct me if im wrong .

Just flash to jh2 out jh3. I'm on 16 hours and have 50% left
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I know my 8525 (a precursor to the tilt) had excellent reception. It was far better than average. This captivate is not as good. In my experience the captivate has average reception. I've had much worse.

Well, my buddy that told me about the topic I used to start this thread just stopped by.
He is playing with an Android 2.2 ROM that has been installed on his HTC HD2, which also is undervolted a bit. And of course, tweaking with SETCPU>
He said he is getting email and messages etc as normal; has full CPU and good power when using it (BTW...the Quadrant readings on his phone is coming in at over 1700). His phone has been up for 24 hours, 15 minutes when he stopped in, and he had 58% battery left. Before he started tweaking (and I think before the undervolted ROM), he was getting 11-12 hours on a charge.
Sounds pretty good to me.

Battery is absolutely garbage

Am I the only one?
I upgraded to a native android device from a modded HTC HD2 to hopefully have a longer battery experience.
This battery is absolutely trash. My 2 year old HTC HD2 running Sense Android Non-Native ran at almost exactly the same.
I tested my HTC HD2 side by side with a close friend who has an Evo 4g.. Both Devices still being HORRIBLE in battery life performed almost IDENTICAL.
HTC HD2 is TWO YEARS old, why is it so close in performance to our device..
I love the phone in general, it's snappy (once i removed all bloatware).. Boots fast, runs nice.. i have very few complaints about it.
But how does an 1100 MaH battery run the SAME as an 1600 MaH battery?
I thought technology is supposed to improve, but my non native android phone ran almost the same as this one. Took longer to restart/boot up, but general speed is the same, larger screen size.. similar settings, and same battery life. Pisses me off frankly.

That's how I felt. hopefully we will get rom's or gingerbread on this phone soon that will improve battery life. And by gingerbread I mean the leak from Samsung for the i9000. I've been reading reviews and it seems like it Greatly improved battery while speeding up the phone a lot.
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I have to disagree. I've owned may android phones including the evo. This phone has the best battery life in my opinion. I can easily make it almost all day with use without charging
Sent from my DAMN Galaxy 4G¡!

Well like I said, i admittedly abuse the phone.. but I'm comparing to other phones getting equal abuse. It stands up about the same, better yes, but not by much.
If I'm barely using it however.. let's say, mainly just texting, yes it will last all day. But that never really happens.

I love how people admit that they "abuse" the phone all day and then complain that the battery life sucks. If you're going to use your phone that much, bring your usb cord. Or strap a battery pack to yourself and plug it in for "all day" use and abuse.

It's the screen. If you want the super amoled you have to put up with the battery.

What i don't understand is that why the Droid x which has similar specs to our phone can go up to 10 hours of continuous web browsing when our phone/vibrant can only go up to 4 according to tests. Is it because of the screen? If it is then that's just stupid.
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It was horrible for me at first, but I then realized the system has to calibrate the battery first. I am getting about 16-20 hours with moderate usage now, which is better than the G2 I had before.

My g2 can go up to 28 hours with light texting and 2 hours of web browsing through wifi and 10 minutes of calls (manual syncs and low brightness also). Once I use the gps and browse through hspa, it's a different story. My sister has a SGS4G and her battery seems to drain faster than mine.
Oh, and if I keep my phone charged for a while after reaching the 100% mark, it stays at 100% even after 1 hour of heavy browsing and watching videos. I think we should all just assume that the battery meters are inaccurate.

I use juice defender and put my brightness setting on auto and I can literally go all day with "abusing" my phone.

DirtyPISTOLA said:
I use juice defender and put my brightness setting on auto and I can literally go all day with "abusing" my phone.
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WHAT? I have brightness on minimum with juice defender and all I get is 8 hours Max. All i really do on this phone is text and play words with friends so its not like i am abusing it or anything.
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How did you calibrate thee battery
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let the phone die, to the maximus. meaning once it turns off, turn on again until it doesnt turn on anymore. Now fully charge it, once again when fully charged restart the phone and charge it to 100 again. then let it die again, and full charge. should be fine then

i bought a 3500mah extended battery for my phone. the battery is designed to work with vibrant. it really made my life a lot easier.

I noticed if I set the phone to GSM only, battery lasts almost twice as long. If I'm on auto select (WCDMA/GSM), it lasts from 7AM till about 4PM.
But then again, I don't have a very good 3G/4G reception (or 2G connection for that matter), so my phone is probably working extra hard to find signal all day long.

The new Bali Kernel has shown tremendous battery improvement on my phone. I'm really impressed.

dualkiller said:
The new Bali Kernel has shown tremendous battery improvement on my phone. I'm really impressed.
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Same here.
I used to only have dark wallpapers and take all the other extra steps for my battery to make it through the work day, and as soon as i got home i had to charge it.
I'm now running fireflies live wallpaper, abusing the phone a little more then what i used to, and i still have battery to spare, not by the time i get home, but by the time i go to bed!!

i also have installed bali. seems to do well, as said its all about the brightness.

My problem with this phone is that wifi uses way too much battery. I have it to turn off when phone is asleep but i'll have the phone at 100% with wifi on. Put it on sleep. 4 hours later. battery is at 65%.
If i have wifi turned off. Battery will be at 98%.

Why do people say they get awesome battery life with the 1S?

Why do people keep saying that the battery life of the HTC One S is awesome?
I seriously get no more than 4 hours of screen time (although the standby time was 30 hours) and thats with very very aggressive battery saving methods. I just can't get more than that. Most of the time between 2-3 hours under moderate/heavy use with standard settings.
Same thing goes for AMOLED. Yesterday I was only using the stock browser with INVERTED colors, aggressive battery saving profile and nothing else. And still, still I only got 4 hours out of it. How is this even possible? I mean everything on my phone was pitch black. Wallpapers, themes, websites. But under normal use I basically get the same results?
Has this been a lie all this time?

I´d say 4 hours of screen time is pretty good.
At least assuming you havn´t had it to min. brightness.

I think people aren't comparing the same figures
screentime vs battery uptime

4 hours of screen time with 30 hours of total use is pretty damn good for any smartphone.

I've owned several android devices and the difference in battery life from all the others to the One S is ridiculous. I really don't see what you're complaining about.
Sent from my HTC One S.

I don't think that the Battery is that great. If i use it moderate i survive a day. That is okay but not great. My galaxy S lasted a half day longer...
But it is realy useless to discuss it. There is no standard for moderate or heavy use. If i use it very low because i am busy with something else it holds two days and more...
But 4h screen on and still 30h runtime sounds pretty good to me too

I did 2 hours of on screen time (browsing the internet over Wifi, downloading apps, etc.), and my battery went from 100% down to ~70%. I'm pretty happy with that.

stoneyjonez said:
I've owned several android devices and the difference in battery life from all the others to the One S is ridiculous. I really don't see what you're complaining about.
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I get a full days worth. And I'm a heavy user. Currently using leedroid 2.0
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One day is the most u get by heavy using a smartphone. This thread is non sense.

WCCobra said:
I did 2 hours of on screen time (browsing the internet over Wifi, downloading apps, etc.), and my battery went from 100% down to ~70%. I'm pretty happy with that.
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thats 6.7 hours of browsing while on wifi. I am not even getting 4 hours of browsing with inverted/black colors on 3G.
Guys, this phone has an AMOLED screen and I am browsing the web where virtually everything is pitch black except text while wifi/bt/gps/sync is disabled and virtually no other background processes are running except for the android stuff and one app called tasker. Auto-brightness enabled. The screen is basically off except for the text! I took it to the extreme but where are my power savings?
Even standby time is not that impressive. Anytime I am not using the browser the phone is in 2G mode, no wifi/bt/gps/mobiledata, auto rotate turned off, auto brightness enabled, no widgets, disabled all the status bar icons such as time/battery/signal icons, no wallpaper, no other fancy stuff. Just a grid of icons on my homescreen and tasker running in the background.
I had colors on my iphone and I get way more browsing time while not compromising at all with the other stuff.
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One day is the most u get by heavy using a smartphone. This thread is non sense.
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Thats true. But I guess I am not even getting 1 day or 8 hours of screen time

Set the brightness down to min and/or try a custom rom. I was on stock, but I hear the battery life improves quite a bit on some of the custom roms available.
Also, this phone is significantly faster (spec-wise) than the iPhone. If you want longer battery life, perhaps you should switch to a phone that allows you to swap out the battery (GS3), or go for a low-end phone like the iPhone.
I should also add that the updated firmware 1.70, 1.78 also extends battery life. Those updates have not been released to U.S. phones yet.

OP -- seriously? Are you complaining? Find me a smartphone with better battery life with a comparable specs-to-batterySize. Droid Razr Maxx doesnt count, as its battery is 2x as large.
I took mine off the charger at work @ 5pm yesterday. It's now 10:23am, and I'm at 72%. I did a decent amount of web browsing, calls, and texting, and some music.

OP can you send me the browser apk with the inverted colors?
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OP can you send me the browser apk with the inverted colors?
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Stock browser has it already. Settings -> Accessibility -> scroll down a bit and you will see inverted rendering. Basically makes every B/W and inverts the blacks and the whites.
I was btw running CM9 alpha6. And seriously I don't really know about the other smartphones since I have only used the iphone 4. I believe that smartphone gets more screen time. So probably the iphone 4s too. I think the 1X and 1XL gets better screen time when I read the reviews and with the latest updates.

" or go for a low-end phone like the iPhone."
LOL!

I was confused about this for a moment. I think you think that the battery time left is what your screen shot says 4 hours and change. That's the time it has ben off the charger blnot what's left on battery. That seems normal to me for it to be @ 60
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I can get almost two days of moderate use, including tethering on the stock Rom. I'm sure not every phone is equal but the battery life on this phone's exceeds my HTC Aria, iPhone's and my G2x.
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micxploed said:
I was confused about this for a moment. I think you think that the battery time left is what your screen shot says 4 hours and change. That's the time it has ben off the charger blnot what's left on battery. That seems normal to me for it to be @ 60
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His first screen shot tells us he got 4 hours and 7 minutes of screen on time and it accounted for 65% of his battery usage.
Which it way better then I get I only get about 2 hours of screen on time out of a full day of usage.
And the OP is right that IOS is the king of battery live when it comes to web browsing.

dc211 said:
His first screen shot tells us he got 4 hours and 7 minutes of screen on time and it accounted for 65% of his battery usage.
Which it way better then I get I only get about 2 hours of screen on time out of a full day of usage.
And the OP is right that IOS is the king of battery live when it comes to web browsing.
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Wrong my battery was at 6% (actually even lower like 3% but I didn't take a screenshot). And the display accounts for 65% of that battery drainage. Don't you guys use android at all?
Btw according to that graph its getting 5-6 hours. But why am not even getting 4 hours max? When I did as much as possible to reduce battery consumption. Going as far as to invert the colors. I was expecting major savings. After all isn't the screen suppose to be off when its displaying blacks? I am very skeptic about amoleds now and the claims that it saves battery life when displaying dark colors. And how this is all the time used as a pro. I think its phony.
No one is going to browse the internet like me and it didnt even work

let's talk battery..

so as it may be known, i came from an iPhone 4S and traded that for an HTC One X, i've had it for a little over a week and i really like it a lot BUT (you knew that was coming i think..) the battery is below par, i get about 3, on a real good day 4 hours of usage from a full charge. i only auto sync mail, screen is on 25% (also tried auto for a few days), when at home it's connected to WiFi, data off and when i go out the other way around, GPS and Bluetooth are off at all times. the main thing i do on my device is Twitter, Google+, Facebook and Instagram, + some light browsing the Internet. i understand the screen and processor take quite some battery but it's not cool to only be able to use the device about 3-4 hours before running empty. emailed the guy i traded with and he said he got about 7hrs, which would be awesome after dealing with 3-4 ;}
i am using Nova Launcher Prime, but prior to that when i ran Sense the battery was about the same. may just revert to stock to see how that will affect the battery, even though i will miss my widgets and setup. i also emailed HTC and was considering going to AT&T but since i traded the device i doubt they'll be much help.
what do you guys get... and what if anything did you do to improve it ?
thanks.

How much screen on time? 4 hours is nuts. I easily got 24 hours on stock, with light usage, maybe even a day and a half. The 2.2X versions firmwares seem to get better battery life. Just this morning I had just under 50% battery left after 24 hours, with 1 hour screen on time.
If screen brightness in on "Auto" turn that off, and set it to something like 40-50%. That should save you some, but doesn't account the type of battery drain you are talking about.
Might be some runaway processes. Or any possibility you are in a fringe LTE area?

on screen time is what i was reporting, round about 4 hours -which yea is pretty horrible i'd say. i even have the screen brightness lower; 25%. checked the processes and for what i know nothing out of the ordinary, but i'm a novice Android user so.. prior to yesterday i only used 4G when out, so at home i stayed on WiFi.
battery stats now:
- 76%
- 5h 8m 54s on battery
- screen on 59m 28s

Screen on time of 4 hours very normal, and its good for a smartphone. Everyone uses their phone differently, of course. But 4 hours of screen time gets most people through a day, and charge overnight. What type of screen on time did you get with the iPhone?

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on screen time is what i was reporting, round about 4 hours -which yea is pretty horrible i'd say. i even have the screen brightness lower; 25%. checked the processes and for what i know nothing out of the ordinary, but i'm a novice Android user so.. prior to yesterday i only used 4G when out, so at home i stayed on WiFi.
battery stats now:
- 76%
- 5h 8m 54s on battery
- screen on 59m 28s
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Your stats are very normal for this phone model. The One XL screen is gigantic, but isn't AMOLED and as such uses much more battery life to power than some other Android devices. I get ~3 hours of screen on time in a days use of battery, and that is about 10-15 hours away from a charger. From what I can gather of your usage, if you are looking to extend your battery life, the only thing to do is leave the screen off more.
Do you flash custom ROMs? If so, try a custom kernel that allows you to change the CPU governor and clock speeds. The processor in the One XL maxes out at 1.5GHz by default, but you can underclock it to 1.2GHz with no noticeable detriment to performance. Also you can set the minimum frequency to an even lower clock speed, which allows the phone to use even less power when idling. Finally, make sure that the CPU governor is set to Ondemand. Powersave actually doesn't save as much power as you would think!

my favorite part was when he compared a tiny 3.5" screen to a 4.7" screen and expected the same battery life, even though it is roughly the same

Firstly, 4 hours screen on time isn't bad at all. I'm sorry your only reference is an iPhone.
To get 6+ hours of onscreen time with this phone like I and many others get you will need to do two things. Firstly, flash a custom ROM. CleanROM 4.5 is a good one that's as close to stock as you're gonna get. The second thing you need to do is turn off auto brightness. Leave the brightness set at 35% - 40%. This will improve battery life immensely. And no, 40% brightness is not dim.
Happy flashing!

10-12 hours up
5hrs 15mins screen on
Everything synced
Sent from my HTC One X

redpoint73 said:
Screen on time of 4 hours very normal, and its good for a smartphone. Everyone uses their phone differently, of course. But 4 hours of screen time gets most people through a day, and charge overnight. What type of screen on time did you get with the iPhone?
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with my iPhone (GPS on always, WiFi always, screen on about 70-80%) i got an average of 6 hours with peaks of 7. 4 hours with the HTC One X is on a good day.

i did not flash a ROM since i can not unlock the phone (yet). where i compared, referred to the iPhone is based upon the previous owner who said he usually got 6-7 hours on screen per day. it's uncool that people not live by the rule if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say nothing... i'm only trying to get some help here (luckily most members are helpful... i'll try and ignore the others) and my other reference would be a BB Storm, which lasted very long, but the device wasn't very exciting
i'm following the thread where rooting is discussed but i believe there's little progress. AT&T is also not pushing Sense 4.1 (yet, mine has 4.0) and ICS 4.0.4.
just spoke with HTC and they agree it's too short and are willing to exchange battery... downside i would be w/o a phone for 7-10 business days. might swing by AT&T and discuss, "issue" is i was not the original buyer.. he (HTC rep) stated they might give you a loaner (i doubt it..) we shall see.
thanks to those with positive feedback.

so far..
click here for today's results --16% left.. slightly over 3hr on screen time.

roeiboot said:
just spoke with HTC and they agree it's too short and are willing to exchange battery...
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It really depends on how you use your phone, and not all screen-on time is the same. 4 Hours is screen time is pretty good, and pretty on par with what other users on here have observed. The phone is new to you, so I bet you are using it like crazy. If that use includes a lot of internet, playing video, or games, its going to use more battery than some other activities. I don't know if a replacment is going to make you any happier.
You also have to consider, aside from a much larger screen, its also much higher resolution than the iPhone. Pushing all those pixels by the GPU takes power. The CPU is also much faster than the iPhone (and just about any other smartphone except the Galaxy S3), again using more power. Screen time may be less, but its doing so much more in that time.

4 hours, if I made would be somewhat acceptable, yesterday I had a little more then 3. I do not play game, I manly do social media & a little surfing..
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my battery would last over 24hrs until the OTA 2.20 update now im lucky to get 12hrs out of it. Did they change something in the update?

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my battery would last over 24hrs until the OTA 2.20 update now im lucky to get 12hrs out of it. Did they change something in the update?
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The 2.20 OTA has an new radio. So its possible that the new radio happens to result in worse reception (and therefore battery life) than the previous one. Newer radios do not always get better results for all people, as its very geographically dependent.

redpoint73 said:
The 2.20 OTA has an new radio. So its possible that the new radio happens to result in worse reception (and therefore battery life) than the previous one. Newer radios do not always get better results for all people, as its very geographically dependent.
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Thank you for the reply and yes the radio looked like it was a new one and in PA i dont get that great of service everywhere.

Yeah, 4 hours of screen on time is normal so I definitely don't think you have any sort of defect. Signal strength also has a lot of impact on battery life. Keep brightness as low as possible while still being comfortable to your eyes (battery life isn't worth putting extra strain on your eyes). I use an app called display brightness that allows you to change brightness by swiping across the statusbar. I keep mine at the lowest level and just swipe a bit to increase it when I need it and then swipe it back down when I'm done. A custom rom could help some. If nothing else, root so that you can use something like better battery stats to give you more info on what's happening behind the scenes so you can make some adjustments. Although I'm not one to push using this, you might want to install something like juice defender to see if it helps. Verify you don't have some app running in the background unnecessarily chewing up cpu use. Note though that just because an app is running in the background doesn't mean you should kill it. As long as it's not doing anything, it's better for it to be running than to have to load it up (especially if it's an app you use frequently). A couple of other things to verify, don't use push notifications / syncing (I keep background syncing off a manually sync (well, I use Tasker to sync things at different times of the day)). If you can, use wifi. If wifi isn't available, turn it off. Also make sure wifi notifications are off and that you aren't using 'best wifi performance' (both under wifi advanced settings).
I'm sure there are some others I missed but hopefully these help and at least give you a starting place. No matter what though, enjoy your device and don't obsess too much with the battery. Once you've gotten over the 'new toy' syndrome, you should get a days use out of it. I pretty much take mine off charge in the morning and put it on charge before going to bed with around 30‰ left. Sometimes more, sometimes less. 3-4 hours average of screen on time, 30-60 minutes of calling.
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^^^^Thanks for the tip on that brightness app. Very impressed.
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Vendetta-NY said:
^^^^Thanks for the tip on that brightness app. Very impressed.
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Np. Been using it since early on and it continues to improve. One of those handy must have apps.
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update.
went to the AT&T Device Center (did not know it existed until the regular AT&T store told me about it...) they played with my phone and concluded that the battery was draining too fast while using it, so w/o discussion they exchanged it.
got a follow up question since AT&T did not know, with the iPhones i would let them drain all the way down at least and then fully recharge and leave it on the charger for an extra 2 hours after it being 100%, i *think* that helped condition the battery.. anything you guys can suggest anything for me to to now that i have a new device to maybe improve/condition the battery ?
thanks.

Expected SOT

Hi,
recently I bought N5 and I am very pleased with it. I could say that I love it. But I am worried about my battery. When I was buying it, the dealer at my carrier store, was hiding the box when opening it from me. I think that the box was not sealed any more ( i dont know if it is only in my country but here it's usuall that when buying a new phone they cut the sticker on the box infront of you). When I called at my store they said that they had only one more. And I am worried that the phone was used befor me for showcasing in the store. My battery usually lasts for two days ( I also have N7 so when on university i use N7 for heavy work) but barely get 3 hours of SOT. Wifi and 4G mostly off and brightness at minimum or max at 30% if on sun. Assistant of, gps of, ART on, using snapdragon BatteryGuru. I would really like to know what SOT should I get with this settings. And if you guys think I should go for warranty and hope that they replace my battery. Is there any way of seeing if the phone was already factory reset? Also I saw guys getting 5-6 hours SOT with wifi on here on XDA. Don't get me wrong I love the standby time but when using it (FB, twitter, messaging, browsing Chrome, 2 mail syncing) the battery drains like F1 car drains gas. If this is somewhere answered close the thread and point me there . Thank you
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screen on time is totally dependent on personal usage.
the best thing to do would be to root it and install 'better battery stats'. then you can analyze your battery properly. feel free to let this run for a full discharge and then post your screenshots

Yeah the problem with SOT is purely personal and that is why I posted here to see what you guys think. But still it is interesting to see how different the time can be from user to user. Will post screenshots in the evening.
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BombasMirko said:
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remove this. It doesn't help and if anything, it makes it worse

The battery drains whether the screen is on or off. If you're getting two days of use with 3 hours sot I would say that's ok. You might get 5 hours if you drained the battery in a day. Does that make sense? It does in my head!
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Ok so I removed Battery guru. And here are my stats from today (this was not my normal day of using it). Through the day the screen was almost constantly at the same level of brightness. And a lot of wifi and even 4g usage. But my battery could be draining a bit faster too because of not that good cellular coverage.
As pepdavies said with my normal use probably I would get closer to 4 hours if I would draind a battery in a day. .
Can I aske one more question? If I charge my phone over night and phone is off, will it overcharge my battery the same way as it would if it was on?

BombasMirko said:
Ok so I removed Battery guru. And here are my stats from today (this was not my normal day of using it). Through the day the screen was almost constantly at the same level of brightness. And a lot of wifi and even 4g usage. But my battery could be draining a bit faster too because of not that good cellular coverage.
As pepdavies said with my normal use probably I would get closer to 4 hours if I would draind a battery in a day. .
Can I aske one more question? If I charge my phone over night and phone is off, will it overcharge my battery the same way as it would if it was on?
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ive always charged my android devices overnight while they are on, nothing bad comes from it. you will be fine. i do it on my nexus 5 every night, yet still see at least 5 hours sot every battery cycle(5+ hours sot because i use lte exclusively, it gives better battery life than 3g/2g).

BombasMirko said:
... If I charge my phone over night and phone is off, will it overcharge my battery the same way as it would if it was on?
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You can leave the phone plugged in 24/7/365, on or off, and it will never overcharge, whatever that may mean. Nor will it overheat, slow down, melt, or explode.

I got 7 hours of screen on time by having the screen on a low brightness but that is only practical in a dark environment. I've also disabled a lot of google stuff and uninstalled google+ which was destroying 20% of the battery regularly. Generally 5 hours of screen on time using lux to lower brightness levels but to a point where the screen still looks nice

4 hours sot is typical for stock
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i dont really see how anyone can enjoy using there phone at minimum brightness unless its in a dark room i keep mine at 25% and it looks damn good using a tweaked gamma profile. Regarding battery i average 4.30 hours screen on time and 23 hours total with wifi only mostly web browsing and as said already there will be no harm in charging your phone overnight when i wake up its at 100% and battery temp is at around 24c

PhilipTD said:
You can leave the phone plugged in 24/7/365, on or off, and it will never overcharge, whatever that may mean. Nor will it overheat, slow down, melt, or explode.
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you are right that it will never overcharge, it is not optimal to keep your device with a full charge of battery for an extended period of time. by extended period of time i mean 5+ days
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fedor12 said:
i dont really see how anyone can enjoy using there phone at minimum brightness unless its in a dark room i keep mine at 25% and it looks damn good using a tweaked gamma profile. Regarding battery i average 4.30 hours screen on time and 23 hours total with wifi only mostly web browsing and as said already there will be no harm in charging your phone overnight when i wake up its at 100% and battery temp is at around 24c
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there are many people in this world and we all have our own likes and dislikes.
when im outside I enjoy being outside and do not use my device except to check a notification or two. so when im inside and in an average lit room, I can drop the brightness to about 15% and that is enough for me. remember, lighting the screen is the phone's biggest battery hog. any decrease to this will increase your SoT. I enjoy getting an extra 2 hours out of my device before i have to be tied to a power cord
that said, im waiting for my zerolemon battery case to ship and can't wait