Thunderbolt overheating? - Thunderbolt General

I woke up this morning at 5am an found that my Thunderbolt was running very hot. 60 degrees Celsius to be exact and the phones charging led was flashing from amber to green very quickly. I pulled the phone off its stock charger and pulled the battery to find that the battery its self was very hot and even producing and odd smell. I let the phone cool for five mins an once cold to the touch, I installed my spare battery and with heavy use, I am back to running temp of 34c and not sure what caused this??? Phone is rooted an running Bamf 1.6.2 overclocked to 1.4 and has been running like this since may 5th with no issues. I have noticed in the past two days, so very rapid battery drain but haven't installed anything new and i have all HTC sense apps not syncing... Any ideas?
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Do you use SetCPU to overclock? I would recommend it, as I think it would've prevented your phone from overheating.
I have 3 profiles set up, and then have the overall max set to 1.4ghz and min set to 245mhz using Smartass. I've found it's always a good idea to have a profile set up to limit the overclocking when the temperature is >50C, to prevent damage to the CPU. I have a profile to limit the max OC when the phone is charging, to help prevent it from overheating. I also use a profile to limit the max when the screen is off, since you don't need the extra speed then, and it helps on battery life. My profiles are:
Temp > 50C - Max=768; Min=245
Screen Off - Max=368; Min=245
Charging - Max=1024; Min=245

Just set up all these profiles and even added another. Thanks for the tip! I hope this helps with battery life also.
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tipsofme said:
Just set up all these profiles and even added another. Thanks for the tip! I hope this helps with battery life also.
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No problem, man. Hope it helps!

My battery life is night and day different! Thank you again!
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Are any of the governors better than the others for handling this?

The goverer used really depends on your own personal usage of the phone. Experment and see which works best for you. FWIW I use interactive and am pretty happy with it.

Ill try that one out. I found Ondemand to waste too much battery, and smartass to be passable.

i just had something weird happen myself. i just installed NONS3NS3 rom and then 'adownloader'. had it downloading a file then all of a sudden the phone locked up and was completely unresponsive. i pulled the battery and it was incredibly hot. waited for it to cool down and now everything is normal again. bizarre, because i could use adownloader just fine when i was on CM7.

My phone gets warm to when i charge it but not 60c. The kernel can cause this too.

tipsofme said:
I woke up this morning at 5am an found that my Thunderbolt was running very hot. 60 degrees Celsius to be exact and the phones charging led was flashing from amber to green very quickly. I pulled the phone off its stock charger and pulled the battery to find that the battery its self was very hot and even producing and odd smell. I let the phone cool for five mins an once cold to the touch, I installed my spare battery and with heavy use, I am back to running temp of 34c and not sure what caused this??? Phone is rooted an running Bamf 1.6.2 overclocked to 1.4 and has been running like this since may 5th with no issues. I have noticed in the past two days, so very rapid battery drain but haven't installed anything new and i have all HTC sense apps not syncing... Any ideas?
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I would probably not use that battery again. Sounds like it crapped out on you. 2 days of decreasing battery life, than that...

nrfitchett4 said:
I would probably not use that battery again. Sounds like it crapped out on you. 2 days of decreasing battery life, than that...
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I don't think the battery has any issue. When a Li-on battery fails, it will create a lot of heat, but it will also alter the resistance and voltage characteristics in ways the phone will detect.
If SetCPU resolved the issue, then you've got an issue with your ROM. It shouldn't do that under normal circumstances, and even if you're using SetCPU, something is still trying to use resources abusively. I'd try a different ROM or radio and get SetCPU off of there. It's actually abusive in itself with resources. It's great for testing OC settings, but for long term implementations of settings, a script is the ideal tool for the job as it implements setting directly to the kernel with no further intervention.

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Wth is with the battery drain?

My phone is charging and it's draining...-_-. Using VMax Kernel 1.2 @ 1ghz with CM7 Nightly #34. How is this happened?
Also my phone gets really HOT at the top. I'm just doing normal stuff on it too.
Trying Bionox v1.3 with Trinity Max 1.1 @1ghz and it's still happening.
Do I need a new battery or is this a whole hard ware problem?
Having everything on gps, Bluetooth,wifi, max screen brightness, as well as using it at the same time will give very little charge if not drainage. If the above is true, you're just draining more mA than your charger can keep up with. Which is completely normal.
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peeturr said:
Having everything on gps, Bluetooth,wifi, max screen brightness, as well as using it at the same time will give very little charge if not drainage. If the above is true, you're just draining more mA than your charger can keep up with. Which is completely normal.
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Only thing that's on from the things you mentioned is the brightness (which is at highest level) , but bluetooth and gps is off.
James_Caliber said:
My phone is charging and it's draining...-_-. Using VMax Kernel 1.2 @ 1ghz with CM7 Nightly #34. How is this happened?
Also my phone gets really HOT at the top. I'm just doing normal stuff on it too.
Trying Bionox v1.3 with Trinity Max 1.1 @1ghz and it's still happening.
Do I need a new battery or is this a whole hard ware problem?
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You're overclocking and complaining about battery drain? Try stock and see if the same thing happens first?
I believe the stock wall charger is rated at 700 mA. If you're consuming more than that with your screen on then you'll see drainage. You can check your drainage with the battery monitor apps on the market. If you have a lot of bright colors as well as max brightness then yeah, you,really probably draining more. Vmax kernels use more power as well.
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You're overclocking and complaining about battery drain? Try stock and see if the same thing happens first?
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I was running at stock though. No overclock, I'm not an idiot lol. I tried stock, I reverted back to stock Kernel and Rom and the battery draining stopped, I have to now figure out which kernel and rom are the best for my phone :/ Phone runs REALLY hot though doing normal stuff, is that normal?
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I was running at stock though. No overclock, I'm not an idiot lol. I tried stock, I reverted back to stock Kernel and Rom and the battery draining stopped, I have to now figure out which kernel and rom are the best for my phone :/ Phone runs REALLY hot though doing normal stuff, is that normal?
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Use setcpu to see how hot your phone actually is and post here.
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peeturr said:
Use setcpu to see how hot your phone actually is and post here.
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Okay nvm the battery still drained by 1%, it was charging for about 40min, with the screen off and everything with stock kernel and stock rom, I feel like this is either a battery problem or a hardware problem. WTF I'm mad.
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Having everything on gps, Bluetooth,wifi, max screen brightness, as well as using it at the same time will give very little charge if not drainage. If the above is true, you're just draining more mA than your charger can keep up with. Which is completely normal.
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lol I frequently run like that while I'm driving somewhere new. Always have my BT in, of course I have GPS on, and the screen might be a little bright. Usually, I leave on WiFi just out of laziness. I always charge my phone while I'm doing this using a $4 charger I got off of Amazon and it always shoots up very quickly. An hour or two long drive will give me almost a full charge.

Think Gingerbread will improve Thunderbolt Battery Life?

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I really hope so. Even with custom ROMs, i am not seeing a major improvement in battery life. Phone looks very pretty though.lol
Ive been reading about the nexus Gingerbread update.. and the reaction has been mixed so far.
I'm not understanding everyone's issue with battery life.. Even stock.
I am running the seido 1600mAh battery but its only a tiny bit bigger so..
Yes it probably will. Gingerbread has features etc that will make it better. However, we will not see that until gingerbread kernel source is actually released from HTC. CM7 will be using the kernel from 2.2 until then.
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I really hope so. Even with custom ROMs, i am not seeing a major improvement in battery life. Phone looks very pretty though.lol
Ive been reading about the nexus Gingerbread update.. and the reaction has been mixed so far.
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A custom rom won't help battery life that much. What you need is a custom kernel and to tweak setcpu settings. I'm getting much bettery battery life on the 1.5 ghz oc kernel running @ 1.4 and 300 mhz with screen off then I was stock
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A custom rom won't help battery life that much. What you need is a custom kernel and to tweak setcpu settings. I'm getting much bettery battery life on the 1.5 ghz oc kernel running @ 1.4 and 300 mhz with screen off then I was stock
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Custom ROMs will help when we get closer to AOSP. Right now we are just kind of fading out Sense but, taking it out completely should help a little.
But getting back to what you said, right now, custom Kernels are the number 1 way to save battery.
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A custom rom won't help battery life that much. What you need is a custom kernel and to tweak setcpu settings. I'm getting much bettery battery life on the 1.5 ghz oc kernel running @ 1.4 and 300 mhz with screen off then I was stock
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Wait. You overclocked and are getting better battery life? Crazy. I just rooted yesterday, and this is my first day with my set CPU settings. Hopefully it helps, but we'll see.
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I don't understand how people think just because the Froyo kernel source came out that we should all be getting 3 days out of our battery now. The INC I had wasn't giving constant great battery life until about 6 months after I got it. It will take time for the battery life to improve. And these roms aren't highly modified at all, it hasn't even been a month, we are all learning about this phone and what it can and can't do. Give it some time and you will see battery life improve, it's not like GB will drop and everything will magically get better.
I don't think battery life is too bad. Better then my old EVO with a larger battery. But I suspect that is because of Sprint's network problems. Made that poor EVO work way too hard for data.
I flashed my kernel recently and created a setcpu profile for 245mhz min/max when the screen is off using "smartass" governor and over all i am using the smartass governor max cpu 768mhz. Battery still kinda crappy. Even just playing mp3s the battery drains fast. Ive been keeping the phone in exclusively 4g and now i am trying 3g. I get very solid 3g/4g coverage in NYC. I donthave many apps running in thebackground. Just have my google sync on and i think facebook... thats about it. Also keep my screen around 20-30%. Ive also done a few full discharge cycles on the battery info and deleted the battery from the CWM recovery menu.
**P.S.- Sorry if i am sounding impatient. I am new to the Android camp. I came from the iphone 3g.iPhone 4 camp. Battery is something i never really had to worry about. Just sucks i have to be more proactive to make my battery last me through the day. Luckily i have access to chargers everywhere... but i dont always want to have my phone plugged in.
Same here, came from the blackberry camp where 3 days per charge is normal. My battery life isn't bad to start with (9hrs) and is only getting better with the new kernel. Still, i think every little bit helps so i hope gingerbread comes sooner rather than later.
In all reality. The screen is what takes up most of the power. I think for me, typically the screen is around 60 - 70% of my battery power. This is a big 4.3 in screen. Having chargers is handy, and the faster the charger, the less you have to have it plugged in. Are there any reliable 2 amp chargers out there?
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I keep my screen very low.
coder_t2 said:
Wait. You overclocked and are getting better battery life? Crazy. I just rooted yesterday, and this is my first day with my set CPU settings. Hopefully it helps, but we'll see.
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Ya. Oc kernals usually undervolted and have other battery tweaks. Its setting run real low with screen off. I have my brightness kinda low. Screen off thirty seconds but that's about it. I work in 4g area live in 3g. 4g is tolerable now with this kernel
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Smartass is still kinda broke from what i can tell. I found luck using undervolted kernels specifically the 1.2ghz kernel from DAS BAMF and Adrynalyne's kernel too
gingerbread seems to have very good power improvements. idle power when phone is asleep seem to be extrremenly low, around 3mA. this is very good and will help you guys when you get GB.
possibly a parallel...
One year age, I bought the HD2 on T-Mobile. Guess what? Poor battery life, etc. Then the update came through and battery life was BETTER. Today, I now am with Verizon and the Thunderbolt. Battery life could be better. And Android 2.3 will be released soon to the Thunderbolt. Will that help battery life. Hope so. But if not, I can get a spare/bigger battery. Admitted, we have no 4G in my home area, so I do not know what impact that has, but my battery life seems like it is improving just because of the charge/discharge cycling that happens normally. And yes, I'm also aware that both are HTC devices but running different OS's, but an update is just that, an update.
I think that it's sad that HTC put in such a low capacity battery and I don't think software optimizations will cure a poor hardware decision. A true OEM 1600 or 1700 mAh battery will make some improvement which seems doable. My Droid 1 had significantly better battery life. If you use 4G as I do, it drains the battery quickly. I use my TB like a Blackberry for email, checking one account every 10 minutes which is far less than Blackberry. Still, using 4G for this, music for my 30 minute commute in both directions and a few other things puts me at below 50% battery life by the work day afternoon. I don't know why HTC put in such a small battery and I'm guessing it has some connection with why they had so many extended batteries to sell on launch day. I have one. Makes the phone noticeably larger, not as bad as I thought although unnecessary... but the phone does last a long time and no worry about battery life.
Android 2.3 is supposed to come to us in Q2, so in the next 2 months. It will more than likely have sense, so it will therefor still drain battery.
My girlfriend pulled 36 hours yesterday on her TB, completely stock. She stayed at a relative's house who didn't have a micro usb cable, so she couldn't charge it. I am pulling a consistent 22-24 hours. IDK what you guys are doing with your phones, but stop it.
I think a big issue with many people's battery life is this is their first smartphone, or first android device. You are going to use it much more than you need to... lol
Wow 36 hours that's unreal I can pull up to 16 hours Max
IISiDeK1CKII said:
Android 2.3 is supposed to come to us in Q2, so in the next 2 months. It will more than likely have sense, so it will therefor still drain battery.
My girlfriend pulled 36 hours yesterday on her TB, completely stock. She stayed at a relative's house who didn't have a micro usb cable, so she couldn't charge it. I am pulling a consistent 22-24 hours. IDK what you guys are doing with your phones, but stop it.
I think a big issue with many people's battery life is this is their first smartphone, or first android device. You are going to use it much more than you need to... lol
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IISiDeK1CKII said:
Android 2.3 is supposed to come to us in Q2, so in the next 2 months. It will more than likely have sense, so it will therefor still drain battery.
My girlfriend pulled 36 hours yesterday on her TB, completely stock. She stayed at a relative's house who didn't have a micro usb cable, so she couldn't charge it. I am pulling a consistent 22-24 hours. IDK what you guys are doing with your phones, but stop it.
I think a big issue with many people's battery life is this is their first smartphone, or first android device. You are going to use it much more than you need to... lol
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Are you in a 4G area? I think the 4g is what really eats us alive.

Thunderbolt battery...lol

So I know this subject has been hashed a thousand times. But... My tb was actually getting fantastic battery. Ten hours without charging. Right now I'm on the latest thundersense, no OC, conservative scaling, juice defender ultimate with data off when the screen's off, and my battery went from 100% to 49% in two hours. Am I doing something wrong, or did I just not quite understand that one day my phone turns on and says "I'm going to have terrible battery life from now on"? Because that's literally what happened. One day I was bragging about how fantastic my battery life is, the next was like I got blindsided by a mugger.
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Charge it fully, calibrate the battery.
I will try that and post back if I have any issues.
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Sorry for being a newb, but I keep on hearing about calibrating the battery in these forums. How do I do that?
Battery Calibration
Xpiatio said:
Sorry for being a newb, but I keep on hearing about calibrating the battery in these forums. How do I do that?
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Download Battery Calibration from the Market. It's free. Open the app, it notifies you when you're charged to 100%, hit the calibrate button and you're done. Simple as that.
I had the same problem and set a profile in setCPU to have max and min cpu speed at 245 while the screen is off. Used onDemand at 1.28 i believe and I went from charging by 4pm to still at 50% by midnight. It really was night and day.
shawncrobbins said:
I had the same problem and set a profile in setCPU to have max and min cpu speed at 245 while the screen is off. Used onDemand at 1.28 i believe and I went from charging by 4pm to still at 50% by midnight. It really was night and day.
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One thing I'm having trouble with understanding is the governors. I'm using smartass right now with no profiles. Will it underclock the phone to 245 when the screen is off? I read an article that said it didn't need profiles so I assumed it did this automatically.
i never expected fantastic battery just equivalent to my Dinc which is 9 hrs, on average i get 8 with my TB so it works for me
I get quite good battery out of my Thunderbolt. I ran it on stock battery with light usage almost 60 hours before I needed to charge.
boythatkills said:
I get quite good battery out of my Thunderbolt. I ran it on stock battery with light usage almost 60 hours before I needed to charge.
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Thank you for the amazingly valuable contribution to the thread! We can all rest easy knowing that user 'boythatkills' has good battery life. Pack it up and close the thread, this guy gets good battery so therefore the OP is of no concern!
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I get quite good battery out of my Thunderbolt. I ran it on stock battery with light usage almost 60 hours before I needed to charge.
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I laughed when I seen this.. I get nearly the same in airplane mode or if I leave it plugged in it almost limitless
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To op first I would ditch juice defender never been a fan of that app plus it also takes resources to enable data again seems counter productive somewhat. Second it does seem these phones have days where they suck down the juice. Also I would use ondemand instead of conservative I have never seen one person even back to my Droid that said they had amazing battery on conservative scaling. I notice way to much lag with conservative as we its only supposed to scale up to the clock speed needed but it takes to long to scale up in my opinion. I've always gotten decent battery life from Droid to thunderbolt and I've always used ondemand with the min clock speed when screen off. Also if you dont have spareparts get it from the market it may have been a rogue app for some reason that day. I have Google voice act up on me from time to time. Hope this helps. Oh and I'm getting 20 to 30 hours out of mine. Whoever said 60 hours must have it hooked up to a car battery haha.
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I don't know about 60 hours on this phone yet. I have gotten 2 days with small usage, but not longer. This might be doable when CM7 starts getting nightly cranked out. Or when our AOSP kernels get better. That is when I started getting 3 days with my evo, but then again, that was with 3G only.
Ever since I did the battery calibration, it seems a lot better. I tend to flipflop back and forth between conservative and ondemand with my main profile- I wouldn't say conservative is a total waste, I'll reserve that for the powersave scaling. So in any case, was it just bad values were written to the batterystats.bin file? And if so, what steps can I take to keep it from happening again? Other than this little bump, I'd say the tb has been the best phone I've ever owned.
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[Q] How can I find what's draining my battery?

My sensation currently has a power drain that I can't seem to find the cause for. I'm using InsertCoin 3.4.2 with bricked kernel 1.5, using SPB shell 3D launcher, got an Anker battery, running tasker to cut data, wifi, gps, etc whenever the screen is off, setCPU running ondemand with max at 1536mhz and minimum 192mhz, etc, etc.
I fully charged my phone to 100% about two or three hours ago, and it's been pretty much left alone since. It's now down to 68%.
I've got BetterBatteryStats and SystemPanel, both showing nothing untoward, no active tasks, no wakelocks from what I can tell, etc. And according to the standard app for battery monitoring, it shows the various connections have indeed been turning off as intended, and the phone has been asleep nigh on all the time it's supposed to be.
Any ideas what's going on, or how I could look into it deeper?
I've just been playing with the phone pretty much non stop since I started this thread an hour ago, and the battery level is now at 60%. So that means it's actually consuming MORE power when it's not even in use!
StuartTheFish said:
I've just been playing with the phone pretty much non stop since I started this thread an hour ago, and the battery level is now at 60%. So that means it's actually consuming MORE power when it's not even in use!
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Hi,
There is a lot of talk about battery consumption,and it's causes.
Most people will suggest trying a different kernel,or downclock it to 1.2 GHZ.
I've tried different kernels already, and underclocking the cpu seems to make little difference. As I say, setCPU should be knocking it down to 192mhz whenever the screen is off anyway!
StuartTheFish said:
I've tried different kernels already, and underclocking the cpu seems to make little difference. As I say, setCPU should be knocking it down to 192mhz whenever the screen is off anyway!
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Hi,
Is your ROM a 2.3.4 base or 2.3.5 ?
2.3.5 mate. It's InsertCoin 3.4.2, with sense 3.5 (which I'm not using in favour of SPB).
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2.3.5 mate. It's InsertCoin 3.4.2, with sense 3.5 (which I'm not using in favour of SPB).
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Hi,
I was going to suggest bricked 0.9.1 with a 2.3.4 ROM,because my son has had great results on his Sensation.
I do not know IC well enough to help.
Sorry.
No problem, thanks for your input anyway.
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No problem, thanks for your input anyway.
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1)Try his new test version of bricked(beta4).
http://code.google.com/p/bricked/downloads/list
2)Charge to 100
3)Turn off, wait till green, unplug and plugin(bump charging)
4)Boot to recovery thru bootloader and wipe battery stats and then reboot unplugged
Drain you battery to 1, then charge up and repeat for a few days. And you can lower the clockspeed since you're using ondemand, you won't see a speed difference with 1.2 and higher. Oh and use ultra smooth rosie so the home will be faster...And see which apps are open in B/G.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302914
With the exception of trying the beta bricked kernel, I've already done all that when I first got my anker battery. It's not a calibration issue, it's that something is actually draining the battery even when it should be asleep.
And that rosie change isn't needed, as I'm not even using sense in the first place. I've got no real issues with how the phone actually performs as everything is already perfectly smooth. The only slight issue I have is since flashing the amaze camera, on rare occasions it can lock up when exiting it, requiring a battery pull to get going again.
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With the exception of trying the beta bricked kernel, I've already done all that when I first got my anker battery. It's not a calibration issue, it's that something is actually draining the battery even when it should be asleep.
And that rosie change isn't needed, as I'm not even using sense in the first place. I've got no real issues with how the phone actually performs as everything is already perfectly smooth. The only slight issue I have is since flashing the amaze camera, on rare occasions it can lock up when exiting it, requiring a battery pull to get going again.
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Oops missed the part about SPB, I have been having similar issues but with Faux's kernel after using Amaze cam, but I doubt that could cause sleep drain. I think you drain is caused by the phone not entering "Deep Sleep", some rogue app is keeping the phone partially awake and sucking up juice. I'm gonna go on a hunch and say the phone is running around 1.x GHz while screen if off due to the app.
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With the exception of trying the beta bricked kernel, I've already done all that when I first got my anker battery. It's not a calibration issue, it's that something is actually draining the battery even when it should be asleep.
And that rosie change isn't needed, as I'm not even using sense in the first place. I've got no real issues with how the phone actually performs as everything is already perfectly smooth. The only slight issue I have is since flashing the amaze camera, on rare occasions it can lock up when exiting it, requiring a battery pull to get going again.
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Hopefully mine can help you. I also noticed HUGE battery drain issues in the past using Bricked Kernel, so I then reverted to stock. Battery was GREAT, but the stock kernel blows. So yeah, I went back to bricked and using the 3rd? beta right now. My battery started dropping like crazy again, so I thought it was the kernel. Before, I used bricked and it was fine so again, I couldn't really blame the kernel. What I tried after that is deleteing my OC app (I've used both SetCPU and System Tuner) and since then, battery is great again! You can try this and hopefully it'll help!
Tried that already as I too suspected the OC app a few days ago. Made no improvements to battery life, so I've put it back on today. Not tried a different kernel yet though, as I'd read that the bricked kernel was the best choice with InsertCoin? I used faux123's kernel first of all, but found it ran hot and kept crashing...
Down to 30% now by the way.
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I think you drain is caused by the phone not entering "Deep Sleep", some rogue app is keeping the phone partially awake and sucking up juice. I'm gonna go on a hunch and say the phone is running around 1.x GHz while screen if off due to the app.
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That's what I'm suspecting too, but I don't know how to go about finding it. I've looked with SystemPanel and BetterBatteryStats and haven't spotted anything, but that could just be because I'm not 100% on what to look for. And why would setCPU not be overriding it and making it clock down to 192mhz whenever the screen is off anyway? Isn't that it's job?
Then try the stock and see if it's still draining. When I tried stock and everything was great, I just simply assumed that it wasn't an app. It was the kernel!
I'm not convinced it's the kernel though, as if it was then battery life would have been crap ever since I flashed it. It hasn't been, it's only been bad for the past few days. Are there any links to the stock kernel just in case I can't find anything else?
- mine is 24 hrs
- heavy use 16 hrs
. Used some aninations only
. Turn off wifi when not in use
. Used only 20% brightness
. Used juice defender
. Downclock to 1.2 ghz intellideman
And ofc my kernel and rom that im using right now!
Thank me if I helped
I use bricked and i actually got better batter out of it but itsn still not up to par.. However fauxs ran faster but my phone was getting up to 47C... Way too hot.. I don't know why mines running so hot.. Using coredroid 2.6. 1.5 bricked kernel. wiped dalv and cache and battery stats... blah.. any input? i had setcpu and deleted it.
SetCPU is uninstalled again now to see if it was causing anything, and there's still a drain on the battery when it should be sleeping. Does anyone have any tips on how to find what's keeping it awake? It's been fully charged again, been unplugged for just one hour and it's down to 80% battery. Not even been using it apart from me flashing the InsertCoin Bravia addition onto it, making it 3.4.3.
One thing I have noticed though, is that BetterBatteryStats says the RILJ dialler has been running for 5m 33s since it was last charged, 775 times, 8.9%. This is on the partial wakelocks screen, whatever they are. Everything else listed is under 1%, with the only exception being the alarm at 1.6%. What does this mean?

Horrendous Battery Life

Running ARHD 6.5.3 XE...noticing the battery is horrendous. Went to sleep and battery was at 48%. When I woke up 7 hours later battery was at 4%. The phone was idle the whole night. This seems like crazy battery drain. I have nothing to compare to because I got the Sensation about 4 days ago and the second I got home with it it was rooted and ARHD XE ICS was installed onto it. My previous phone was the T-Mo G2x which had terrible battery but nowhere close to the drain I am seeing with the Sensation running ARHD 6.5.3 ICS with Sebastian kernel at 1.6 ghz. Using SetCPU with ondemand governor 192 min and 1.6 max. Screen off profile with 192 min and 1 ghz max. Any idea or suggestions are greatly appreciated!!
Seems excessive, you could try battery monitor widget pro and/or system tuner pro to see what processes are running and record the state of your phone e.g. wifi on, awake, GPS, data etc.
What are the percentages if you look in battery usage in settings?
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Maybe it's the cause of overclock. I use hypernonsense (great rom, too bad its discontinued), and it has pretty good battery life until I installed the overclock kernel. I still keep it because it's a lot faster.
Still, the battery shouldn't drain that much. I would try to remove the overclock to see if it's still that bad. If not much improvement, I would try to install another rom.
I don't want to make a new thread about battery life, can I ask here ?
Previously I was running on 6.5.3 XE w/ Seb 1.6Ghz.
Check out the screenshots,during that time wifi and data plan is on,auto-sync with 2 gmails,twitter,FB and weather.Does it sucks or is this normal ? I'm using stock battery.
You want that screen off profile to be much lower - I have mine at 300MHz powersave governor (that way it isn't constantly polling) with no noticable loss of responsivity when I switch the screen on. Then fully charge the battery and reset the battery stats from within ClockworkMod or 4ext
Also, I'd highly recommend JuiceDefender Ultimate - it's really customizeable for things like only activating 3G when screen is on or when in certain apps, then switches it on for a min every so often when the screen is off to check emails etc.
Hope that helps/makes sense!
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manhquan2112 said:
I don't want to make a new thread about battery life, can I ask here ?
Previously I was running on 6.5.3 XE w/ Seb 1.6Ghz.
Check out the screenshots,during that time wifi and data plan is on,auto-sync with 2 gmails,twitter,FB and weather.Does it sucks or is this normal ? I'm using stock battery.
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If you haven't already, get SetCPU and create some profiles:
Screen off: 300Mhz governor powersave
I also have progressively lower clock speeds as the battery life diminishes.
pettigrew95 said:
Running ARHD 6.5.3 XE...noticing the battery is horrendous. Went to sleep and battery was at 48%. When I woke up 7 hours later battery was at 4%. The phone was idle the whole night. This seems like crazy battery drain. I have nothing to compare to because I got the Sensation about 4 days ago and the second I got home with it it was rooted and ARHD XE ICS was installed onto it. My previous phone was the T-Mo G2x which had terrible battery but nowhere close to the drain I am seeing with the Sensation running ARHD 6.5.3 ICS with Sebastian kernel at 1.6 ghz. Using SetCPU with ondemand governor 192 min and 1.6 max. Screen off profile with 192 min and 1 ghz max. Any idea or suggestions are greatly appreciated!!
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We have the same issue since i bought my phone few months ago (I even try insertcoin and ARHD because of the problem, but no changes).
I've read through the forum and i think the culprit is the stock battery. I'm ordering Anker 1900mAh (it has good feeback) for replacement and i'll let you know if there's any differences.
Can no frills do profiles? I heard to use that with ARHD instead of SetCPU.
i use no frills, for me its the best cpu app, you just set your desired speed, and thats it. no fancy stuff just plain and simple..
Im also on ARHD 6.5.3 with overclocking to 1.6, governer is on demand... I can get between 36-48 hours on a full charge...
Screen is using a high proportion, turn the brightness down some if you haven't already. Mine is rarely more than about 15%.
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if you have 4ext recovery you can go to the wipe settings an click on "wipe battery stats" but your battery has to be fully loaded.
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I have done all of the above mentioned things but still getting very poor battery life. Are you guys using the Anker extended battery or stock?
i have the stock battery and i heard that the anker batteries are ****.
sometimes they just explode and i think the 200 mah more dont bring much more batterie life with it.
BillyBohne said:
i have the stock battery and i heard that the anker batteries are ****.
sometimes they just explode and i think the 200 mah more dont bring much more batterie life with it.
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How long do you get on a full charge with stock battery? I actually just ordered an Anker =/ hope it's not ****...I'm running ARHD 6.5.4 with Bricked kernel 192 min with 1566 max using lagfree governor...battery life really leaves something to be desired...getting about 5 hours from 100% to 15% ...tried wiping batt stats and trying different profiles in SetCPU as well as underclocking. Any suggestions please throw them my way!!
Part of the problem IS because it is an Anker battery. I have heard many bad reviews about their batteries. Another issue is that most "extended" batteries really aren't any better than stock. A lot of times they are WORSE than stock batteries. If you tested the mA with a good digital meter I bet you would find between 1200-1400 on a full charge, with a supposedly 1900mAh battery. I hate to break it to everyone like this, but the only TRUE extended batteries you will find will be physically larger than stock. You can slap whatever damn label you want on a 1500mAh battery. Call it 3500mAh for all I care, you can't deny what it really is. A 1500mAh battery. You can't get more charge out of a battery unless it is physically larger that the original.
And I don't know about you guys, but I am skeptical about true extended batteries for the Sensation. The antenna contacts are on the battery cover! That means they would have to ship you a modified battery cover to fit the bigger battery. If they screw up one contact or don't put enough material on it from the factory, your sensation will be a signal-less paperweight.
Another thing I suggest is downloading BetterBatteryStats. If you have a bit of knowledge about how Android's OS works, you might be able to look at the Wakelocks section and see if something is preventing your device from entering Deep Sleep mode...the top four causes of battery drain are the screen, WiFi while on but not connected, GPS, and applications locking your device out of Deep Sleep.
Thanks for the reply. I am currently using the stock battery shipped with the phone. What do I check for in the app you mentioned to see if my phone is entering deep sleep?
I attached a screenshot of the wakelock section. Let me know if anything looks suspicious or if you need to see a different screen. Thanks!
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Thanks for the reply. I am currently using the stock battery shipped with the phone. What do I check for in the app you mentioned to see if my phone is entering deep sleep?
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Sorry, I tend to ramble on a bit
Best way to check would be to click the first drop down menu and look through Wakelocks and Kernel Wakelocks after your phone has been running for a bit. Start up the application for the first time, accept the changelog stuff, then close it out and lock your screen. 5-10 minutes later check that dropdown and see if anything says *Wakelock* by it. There should be a gauge under each item, it shows a percentage of time the process has been running since last boot, charge, or whatever option you pick in the second drop down menu. If any of the gauges are almost full or beyond 50%, there's the culprit.
Azothyran said:
Sorry, I tend to ramble on a bit
Best way to check would be to click the first drop down menu and look through Wakelocks and Kernel Wakelocks after your phone has been running for a bit. Start up the application for the first time, accept the changelog stuff, then close it out and lock your screen. 5-10 minutes later check that dropdown and see if anything says *Wakelock* by it. There should be a gauge under each item, it shows a percentage of time the process has been running since last boot, charge, or whatever option you pick in the second drop down menu. If any of the gauges are almost full or beyond 50%, there's the culprit.
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Check my post above I posted 2 screens with kernel wakelocks from the dropdown and partial wakelocks...don't know what either means thank you for your help!
From that screenshot I don't see any major partial wakelocks. The HTC Facebook sync doesn't seem to be helping, but it isn't causing too much of a drain at the same time...try peeking through kernel wakelocks and see if anything stands out
Holy crap, CNT is what is doing it! The device has been running for a full hour and it has locked your device into Awake mode 100% of the time. I will do some research and see what role it plays.
Kernel wakelocks is just 100% to "No reference since charged yet"

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