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I love the phone in everyway...but...Im disappointed with the screen. I had a Fascinate before it, and while everything about it sucked, the screen was beautiful! I guess i got spoiled with the amoled. Whats everyone elses opinion here. Im contemplating returning it, hoping the bionic has a better screen.
yeah, the Thunderbolt's screen doesn't even come close to the Fascinate. I had the two side-by-side last night and the difference especially at max brightness was quite noticeable. I also noticed that angry birds isn't as smooth and fluid on the Bolt as the Fascinate but other than that, the Thunderbolt easily outdoes the Fascinate.
I guess the amoled screens are too expensive to manufacture. I will not even consider the stealth from sammy. I have given up with them as a cellphone manufacturer...the fasc is STILL running eclair...A big FAIL on sammies end.
At least we wont get screen burn in's like amoled gets.
i went from an iPhone 4 to an evo, so dropped resoultion going to a bigger screen, and actually thought it looked great, to then this phone, and I have to say, the screen on this phone for me is fantastic. I think it is maybe a little to warm sometimes, as when showing flesh tones, but I would assume that like for the evo, we will be able to change that over time.
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I guess the amoled screens are too expensive to manufacture. I will not even consider the stealth from sammy. I have given up with them as a cellphone manufacturer...the fasc is STILL running eclair...A big FAIL on sammies end.
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cant really blame samsung. verizon is the final say and they usally are slow to approve/disapprove any updates. just like their phone releases
magneticzero said:
cant really blame samsung. verizon is the final say and they usally are slow to approve/disapprove any updates. just like their phone releases
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no, this happens among all the carriers. Samsung is the slowest cell phone MFG to release updates for their current phone models. Unless the list changed, and I would have to go find it on engadget, HTC was the highest, and above samsung by a good deal.
I know what you mean coming from the Incredible. But I've gotten used to the slcd just don't look at your other for a while. I think its pointless to look for perfection especially on a phone screen. You'd need a color calibrated broadcast monitor for perfection. One thing i noticed is the slcd is much better in direct sunlight. So a little less brightness and clarity keeping in mind I can't really notice at normal viewing distances and the fact that you can see the screen outside seems like an ok trade off. (Yes if you hold it really close to your eyes and study it you can but... Just my thoughts on it.
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i went from an iPhone 4 to an evo, so dropped resoultion going to a bigger screen, and actually thought it looked great, to then this phone, and I have to say, the screen on this phone for me is fantastic. I think it is maybe a little to warm sometimes, as when showing flesh tones, but I would assume that like for the evo, we will be able to change that over time.
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Went out for a walk yesterday w/the Bolt using Cardio Trainer, my god it was impossible to see the screen in the sun ... didn't feel like trying to tweak settings, make brighter, etc., while I was on the move - but will do so next time before I start the run just in case I want to see where I'm at.
I definitely notice a difference between the AMOLED Incredible (my wife's phone, formerly mine) and the TB. The colors are off - too brilliant in the wrong way. Blues are purplish and Reds are off too. Its even worse when comparing to the iPhone, which is what I have been carrying lately. Not happy with it - the crispness of the iPhone makes this look blown out. As my wife said "It's like the iPhone is HD and the Thunderbolt is SD." The additional real estate is nice, but definitely prefer the Inc AMOLED and the iPhone Retina.
Ooof.
Wonder if Verizon will follow suit with Sprint. An LTE Nexus S would be money.
Its not like its your living room featured TV. You guys must have some superb vision or something, but I am satisfied, but some people you cant just please.
Beggars can't be choosers. Either go with a company who don't update your software ever or go with one that does. Most important to me with my phone is properly functioning software.
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Wonder if Verizon will follow suit with Sprint. An LTE Nexus S would be money.
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No...its gonna be the samsung stealth.
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Its not like its your living room featured TV. You guys must have some superb vision or something, but I am satisfied, but some people you cant just please.
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I don't personally do video/photo editing on my phone or watch movies, which is the only reasons I could think of a screen truly mattering. I have the DROID Incredible currently w/ the AMOLED and well generally I can't really tell any functional difference between it and the Thunderbolt screen I played with in a Verizon store after ordering one for myself (arrives tomorrow).
I am a bit of a video/audiophile but only on things like my TV & computer monitors, but can't see why it'd matter for such a small screen either.
Has anyone had any experience w/ the Thunderbolt in direct sunlight? I can't see anything on my Incredible when it's in the sun. I could at least get a vague idea w/ my old iPhone 3G... which I find a more important factor than the color quality/pixel density on a phone.
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Its not like its your living room featured TV. You guys must have some superb vision or something, but I am satisfied, but some people you cant just please.
Beggars can't be choosers. Either go with a company who don't update your software ever or go with one that does. Most important to me with my phone is properly functioning software.
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I get what you are saying, but your cavalier dismissal ignores the fact that other devices exist that have superior quality. Its not like I am wishing for something ideal that isnt possible. One might expect that when paying top dollar for a "flagship" device you would get some good quality hardware. Not saying the device is flawed, just that the screen definitely isnt as good as phones that came a year before it.
As for properly functioning software, I doubt you could argue that this is functioning perfectly - maybe for you it is and maybe my experiences are anecdotal but I and my coworker are experiencing random reboots, problems with calendar sync, and data transfer problems where you have to reboot to resume connection. I will also volunteer that our Verizon rep said she is seeing very high return rates on the Thunderbolt due to software issues. Again, maybe anecdotal and maybe "some people you just can't please" but sometimes good enough isnt enough in the face of alternatives that work better out of the gate.
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I love the phone in everyway...but...Im disappointed with the screen. I had a Fascinate before it, and while everything about it sucked, the screen was beautiful! I guess i got spoiled with the amoled. Whats everyone elses opinion here. Im contemplating returning it, hoping the bionic has a better screen.
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The amoiled screen has a amazing color saturation; however the low subpixel count makes text look very pixelated. I much prefer the slcd screen for viewing web pages. Makes the small text so much clearer. I had the Nexus S prior to this phone and I think the Thunderbolt is much nicer overall, including the display (for my usage).
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I love the phone in everyway...but...Im disappointed with the screen. I had a Fascinate before it, and while everything about it sucked, the screen was beautiful! I guess i got spoiled with the amoled. Whats everyone elses opinion here. Im contemplating returning it, hoping the bionic has a better screen.
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The bionic will have a better qhd screen but if it is like the atrix then it I'd using the pentile matrix and will more than likely look even more "fuzzy" than the bolt. Do a Google search for arstechnica pentile matrix they have a great article on it and after using super lcd on my incredible (I had the amoled version as well and the nexus one) I much prefer the super lcd to any amoled with pentile. Plus the bionic won't even have the better colors like amoled. That is a big fail on motorola for making their first qhd screens pentile. I have to believe the screen on the thunderbolt will have to look better.
OK, there is definately major variences between screens on different phones. I just got a replacement for a dead speaker, and well...the screen has much more contrast, and does not wash out much at an angle. Im suprised to see such a difference between the 2.
I actually love this screen. I came from the Nexus One AMOLED screen and I prefer the TBolt. The screen is brighter on the Tbolt and the colors are just ever so slightly less saturated than the AMOLED which is actually a good thing in some cases(movies and skin tones)
I'm with you, I miss the blacks of my amoled dinc.
Was out today and thought I'd stop by and check out the infuse...
I spent about 5 minutes goin over it...
The screen looks awesome....
Touchwiz looks cheap...
GPS could not lock on my location..but the Atrix and the Inspire on display had no trouble at all..
I may be a little jealous if the display and battery size of the infuse...otherwise I'm stickin with the inspire...
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good there really isn't a plus from other galaxy s phones. Sure there's a better camera, bigger screen, ffc, and a better screen but what's hardware without software?
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
I feel just like that whenever I look at my wife’s Galaxy Captivate’s bright screen, until I try to navigate that damn Touchwiz. Grass will always be greener on the other side when it comes to technical toys. But with all the things I can do with my Inspire 4G, I can do without the faster CPU, front facing camera, and the extra .2 inches of high def screen until next Inspire (something comparable to) comes out.
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
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if we sell enough of them, samsung gives us goodies, we win points that we can redeem for electronics and such...
so you're damn right its the best phone we have at AT&T right now..
(i still use my inspire and i think its way better than both infuse and atrix, much more solid built etc)
but yea.. when the next phone comes out that gives us salesmen something good in return, guess what.. it's gonna be the best phone you can buy for your money!! i guarantee it!! *wink*
The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
We'll be hearing about any defects or problems within a week if there are any.
I played with one too. Reminded me of my captivate just bigger. kinda cool, but eh. I still prefer my Inspire!
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The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
We'll be hearing about any defects or problems within a week if there are any.
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I love sense, and when I had my captivated, everything about it was HTC. notification bar, battery meter, signal meter, app icons, etc. I wasn't phone obsessed as far as updates until I got into Android. So that may change for them.
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Samsung's hardware is tempting, but I'll never forget the garbage I (we) went through with the Captivate. Dying earpiece and external speakers (both happened to me on different handsets), sleep death, no GPS, the OTA update that bricked stock phones...all of this and more, and the phone hasn't even been out for a year.
Not only that, but Samsung insulted us by releasing a GPS "fix" app in the market that "restored the GPS to factory settings"...you know, the ones that didn't work in the first place?
I'm not a fanboy and won't spend my money buying products from a company that is all to happy to ass-rape me for giving them business. Apple has the luxury for rabid fanboyism, so no matter what they do, people will still buy their products. Samsung doesn't have that, they just think they do for some reason.
The good side of the Infuse is his unlocked bootloader.
My wife has a Inspire and I have a captivate, I have to say the captivate is really easier to unlock. But I agree with most of you about the captivate, a stock captivate is really not perfect, but I'm running my cappy with Contiuuum 5.4.1 (Android 2.3.3) and I can say bye bye to all the problems, my gps is a dream and my battery time is amazing.
I have a SE Xperia X10 and I'm in the market for a new phone, so I went to my local AT&T store for the Sunday release of the Infuse. I played with it, and with the Inspire, for about an hour.
I came away from the experience thinking my next phone will be an HTC...now if I can only hold out for the upcoming "Holiday." hee hee. Here's why-
1. I have owned Samsungs before, including a brief stint with the Captivate, and I'm unimpressed with the company as far as updates and support.
2. The HTC aluminum unibody case just says "build quality" to me. The infuse felt just like the Captivate in the hand - like flimsy, cheap plastic that should not be used for high-end phones. I know some people want light weight, but come on - few extra grams won't kill ya and it just might save your phone if you're a little rough with it.
3. The Infuse's screen was way too color over-saturated for me. It's bright and clear, but looks surreal to me. I would tire of that in hurry.
4. I could detect no speed or smoothness advantage for the Infuse. Heck, I could load up a custom rom on the Inspire, overclock it conservatively and just beat the snot out of the Infuse... which leads me to....
5. There seems to be a whole lot more developer time and interest in the HTC devices, which means loads more fun for me.
I have both phones with me right now and here are my quick observations between the two phones (Inspire running current version of LeeDroid 2.3.3):
Web browsing: Inspire – Seems to load pages faster and better scrolling.
Camera: Infuse – For some reason the pictures from my Inspire produce a redish look and are too soft, almost out of focus.
Build quality: Inspire – HTC = solid. I don’t notice much difference when carrying them in my pocket as the Infuse is lighter.
Screen: Infuse - However the Inspire is not bad. I could live with both. After looking at the Infuse I do notice a little bit of softness to the Inspire’s text.
Call quality/Handset speaker: Infuse – I have always had an issue with the call quality of HTC devices for my taste. I have to say that the Infuse has one of the best sounding speakers. I would rate it on par with the iPhone 4 or better.
GPS: Infuse – I get a lock in about 10 seconds. Inspire takes about 1 minute with current ROM/Radio.
Battery life: Infuse – But not by much (10 to 15% better).
Speedtests: Infuse – Speed tests seam consistently higher using Speedtest.net (between 4-5 download and 1.5-2 upload).
Battery charging: Inspire – for some reason the Infuse (and most Samsung phones) take forever to fully charge.
Reception: Still need a few more days with the phone but did have an issue with it the very first call. Called AT&T to make a change to my account and dropped the call five times. The lady at AT&T apologized and said that her land line has been dropping a lot of calls lately (WTF?!?!). I should have a conclusion within the next few days.
I’m not going to get into Touchwiz vs. Sense as there are several write-ups on this but based upon the above, I’m leaning towards the Infuse. Call quality is fantastic on my side as well as the other side. I travel a lot so being in airports and cars this is very important for me. The other item is camera quality. Images may be a little oversaturated by they look sharp and I’m no longer to grabbing my wife’s iPhone 4 to take pictures or videos.
Hope this helps anyone looking at both of these devices and let me know if you have any questions.
I may have to reconsider. I spent another day playing with the phones at the ATT shop. I loaded up speedtest on the Inspire, Attrix and Infuse and ran it on each phone about five times. The Infuse consistently beat the others on download and upload. It was close with the Attrix, but the Inspire got its clock cleaned every time.
The screen on the Infuse started to grow on me when I got out of the start screen and its surreal, over the top background and icon colors. When you look at web pages, movies and snapped pictures, it looks amazingly good. The blacks are so very black, even way off axis.
I also played around with the cameras and I have to say that the Infuse is outstanding. Very fast focus and snap and consistently better looking shots...well, could have been the better screen making them appear to be better.
With all the apps coming out now that utilize video chat with the front camera, I don't know if I could go another year or so without one and of course the Infuse has a nice one.
The only down side I had with the Infuse was the build quality. Now that I think about it, it was really the "feel" and the super light weight. Then it dawned on me...duh!...I'm going to put a case on it, so that can be easily corrected.
So now the only thing that I have left to quibble about is the lack of notification lights on the Infuse.....and yet, something tells me that there will be an app or fix that converts some of those other front lights to message notifications. And then of course there's the relative lack of developer input on Samsung devices.
Ok, so do you think I am talking myself into the Infuse?....maybe, just maybe.
Lmao u diss the infuse then come back and suddenly its way better? Little lost in denial
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
Yes indeed. This inspire has fallen off the back of the car and bounced and slid a goodways before realizing that on this narrow road here in mesquite. I picked it up after backtracking and had dust on the screen that's it. And even had it.upstairs and my nephew dropped the phone 1.5 stories and not one crack nor scratch. Btw had a platinum series casing on the whole time.
NO INSPIRES WERE HURT THRU THESE HORRID TIMES
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
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If I wanted a Captivate, I would buy a Captivate. The Infuse is just a stupid phone in my opinion. It's not bad, I'm sure, but it doesn't make sense to buy one with the Holiday and Ma Bell's version of the Galaxy S II right around the corner.
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I had an opportunity to borrow one from corp store rep.
Unfortunately, I am not impressed with this machine. The screen gets washed out if you watch more than 30 degrees off while G2x doesn't (it gets blue tint though).
The rep told me it gets 24xx on Quadrant, which is about same as my G2x.
Moreover, mine doesn't have much problem, so it may be wise for me to stay with G2x and wait for Samsung Hercules.
The screen size makes me want the sensation. The screen quality keeps me at the g2x
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Timely thread for me. I'm returning my 2nd one and was really studying that Sensation a little while ago....."Should I cut my losses and get this"? Looks pretty good, it really does, but I'm staying with the G2X.
Hopefully the third one works without the reboots. But it is so nice I think I'd likely try a fourth. This after much thought.
It definately needs replacing.....hell it disconnected w/ black screen WHILE I was talking to the T mobile rep today LOL and while it did not reboot in the night, it did lose the bookmarks.
But my daughters is still running perfectly. Not one problem.
And man, this phone is just like her. When its good, it's very very good, but when it's bad....
I really love this phone.
How often are you getting these reboots? I've had a total of 3 G2X's in my household, and none of them suffer from reboots. I had to replace mine today because of USB issues, but other than that the phones have been great.
1st locked up twice and the flashlight went on (?) and I had to pull the battery. Frankly that wasn't enough to return it but two days later was when they mysteriously disappeared fron the shelves and I had an Ick attack. It was on my 14th day and I exchanged it, just in case.
This one as I said elsewhere has been resetting in the night. Every morning I wake up to the phone wanting my sim password. I accidently activated that and like it. But seeing it tells me it has reset, which I would not notice otherwise I don't think. And I have been interupted three or four times on my calls with the phone shutting off. And it reboots randomly and frequently during the day. This is not good.
The first day (friday) it locked up with a very loud buzzing sound, not like the vibration but a loud buzz. This is my main reason for sending it back. I do believe the reboots issues will be fixed with the update.
In retospect I probably should have kept the first one. It was problem free other than the two incidents.
I really don't know which way to go.I'm a die hard invidia fan and the tegra 2 IMO will outperform the Snapdragon anytime but due to all the build issues with the G2X I just don't know where to look.
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Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78
Big toss up. Screen size is very tempting. I loved HTC built devices and the LG kinda let me down with all its kinks, but the support is nice.
I've got a solid G2X, no freezing, rebooting, and minimal screen bleed (after 1 return). The sensation looks like a great phone to me but the size of the G2X is the biggest I'll ever go. And after 2 HTC phones I'll never go back until they replace that damn speaker phone speaker with something you can actually hear.
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Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78
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In all honesty, that second link was mostly garbage. If you're going to compare 3 devices, at least do it in a common and neutral environment. It seems a bit silly to judge text clarity when you're looking at several different examples on different backgrounds and text effects.
Angle of view is also useless after a certain point. If you're viewing your phone at a 20 degree angle, it might be best to worry about untying yourself and getting away from your kidnappers first.
wasnt the screen on this thing supposed to be abit concaved? certainly didnt look that way in them pics on one of them links!
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Reviews of the Sensation coming out fast now.....this is a good one....love the brit chick
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-sensation-943466/review
the screen part: HTC has long had a problem with screen visibility in direct sunlight, and it seems that issue has continued somewhat with the Sensation. It's definitely a step up, as at medium brightness you can make out what's on the screen, but compare it to the iPhone 4's Retina Display or the Super AMOLED Plus of the Galaxy S2 and it's miles behind. However, the resolution is definitely a step forward, and the sharpness of the text is impressive.
Samsung Galaxy S2 vs HTC Sensation vs iPhone 4 Screen Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgDpwaDh78
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Yet another example of how HTC made such a huge profit. Cheaped out on decent hardware parts.
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speedbreaker said:
wasnt the screen on this thing supposed to be abit concaved? certainly didnt look that way in them pics on one of them links!
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Yes, or atleast its supposed to sit a bit inside the housing so that when you set it face down it doesn't touch the surface.
booch137 said:
I've got a solid G2X, no freezing, rebooting, and minimal screen bleed (after 1 return). The sensation looks like a great phone to me but the size of the G2X is the biggest I'll ever go. And after 2 HTC phones I'll never go back until they replace that damn speaker phone speaker with something you can actually hear.
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I thought the same thing, go look at the specs compared to the G2X
http://androinica.com/2011/04/t-mobile-g2x-vs-htc-sensation/ scroll down a little.
G2X Dimenions
4.90 x 2.50 x 0.40
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4.96 x 2.57 x 0.44
and only weighs .22oz more for the aluminum feeling.
I remember reading people really liked the metal strip the G2X has, that they would avoid putting a cover on it cause it looked so nice!!! I agreed but still bought a case since I'm selling the G2X for this aluminum sexy model called a phone, haha. I just love the feel of HTC phones prefer Sense overall as well... sucks for those with all those issues and still want to keep the G2X I feel bad as I have no issues and am still selling this phone.
Good luck peeps.
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I thought the same thing, go look at the specs compared to the G2X
http://androinica.com/2011/04/t-mobile-g2x-vs-htc-sensation/ scroll down a little.
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4.90 x 2.50 x 0.40
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4.96 x 2.57 x 0.44
and only weighs .22oz more for the aluminum feeling.
I remember reading people really liked the metal strip the G2X has, that they would avoid putting a cover on it cause it looked so nice!!! I agreed but still bought a case since I'm selling the G2X for this aluminum sexy model called a phone, haha. I just love the feel of HTC phones prefer Sense overall as well... sucks for those with all those issues and still want to keep the G2X I feel bad as I have no issues and am still selling this phone.
Good luck peeps.
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Have no issues with my G2X either but I feel the Sensations aluminum body isn't enough of a upgrade over the G2x but I can tell you what is a worthy upgrade. A SGSII variant. It's still the phone to beat and is still called the best Android phone that exists. Engadget even said in the Sensation review that the SGSII was more responsive and had more power. Myriam on Engadget said it wasn't enough to get rid of her SGSII and Sense was holding it down. I think I'll pass since I won't have enough app storage available to even store 2 of my Game Loft games. It's 2011 and HTC is still giving us 1gb of app storsge.
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Have no issues with my G2X either but I feel the Sensations aluminum body isn't enough of a upgrade over the G2x but I can tell you what is a worthy upgrade. A SGSII variant. It's still the phone to beat and is still called the best Android phone that exists. Engadget even said in the Sensation review that the SGSII was more responsive and had more power. Myriam on Engadget said it wasn't enough to get rid of her SGSII and Sense was holding it down. I think I'll pass since I won't have enough app storage available to even store 2 of my Game Loft games. It's 2011 and HTC is still giving us 1gb of app storsge.
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ya I dont want plastic at all... and launcher pro will take care of the sense hogging down if it does slow it down... doubt it will. The Sensations resolution helps with pixels... I've seen a couple captivates, and a vibrants that had weird looks to the text stuff... Sure they are bright and vivid but clarity is awesome...
Besides that Samsung has a well bad rap when it comes to phones, lol... just saying the G2X is awesome but I prefer HTC and Sense.
Let us know how you feel when its not so great in sunlight.
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the sensation has most likely been sitting in boxes with those encrypted bootloaders.
and the benchmarks i see do not score 2400 on the sensation.
But it should be a decent phone, also the sensation has the mhl connection not a seperate hdmi and i hear it doesnt come with the cable. and they are hard or imposible to find.
also the mhl standard does allow charging but no hardware out at this time knows that standard so no charging while using hdmi out.
It did take 3 tries but i think i have a good g2x finallly it was dated april 30th for anyone that cares
So i would wait and see whats said once they come out.
Im sure it will be a fine phone but if you are into modding id wait and check out that bootloader first.
Sense ui eats so much ram!
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No way would I touch a sensation after I researched it for my buyers remorse period when I bought the G2x. Glad I made the right choice in choosing a phone. I never had a problem with any of my G2x phones. I traded the first one because of the backlight but never had any reboots or issues. The second one is near flawless.
The Sensation looks like a sweet phone and all but it is just to much of a step back in too many departments coming from the G2x.
Less powerful CPU/GPU
1Gb of Storage vs 8Gb
Lower Front Cam Res
MHL HDMI Out - Power
Encrypted Bootloader (which may or may not be unlocked) (HTC said "future phones would be unlocked")
Ram Killer aka Sense
Sure you can opt to run Launcher Pro and not use Sense... but that doesn't mean that Sense just vanishes. All those graphic files have to be stored somewhere. I cooked many Sense roms to know the difference in weight between a Sense and Non-Sense rom.
I used my upgrade almost a month ago (coming from an infuse 4g) and initally i was wondering if i did the right thing. The SR is faster, has LTE (i dont live in an LTE area) however adding on another 2 years to my contract seemed questionable for such a small upgrade (at least from the Infuse). Ive been here for 3 weeks now and was thinking (just like some of you are) of switching to the SGS II simply because of the lack of dev support the SR seemes to have. Well 3 days ago i got an SGS II. I used it for about a day,did some tests, and i can now say with confidence that compared the the Skyrocket the SGS II doesnt even feel like it should be a part of the Galaxy family. The problems i had with it.
1. Build quality - The build quality was terrible! the back cover felt like a thin piece of cardboard, the speaker was horrible and it had that same ugly bump at the bottom of the phone my infuse and most other samsung phones have. It felt like if i dropped it that would be it. Not to mention the terrible backlighting of the capcative buttons on the front. The Skyrocket has the LED backlit... SGS II looks yellowish and just plain ugly
2. Network speed - I live in a crappy area. An hour north of fresno CA. With the Skyrocket i get about 3-7MBPS on "4g non LTE". With the SGS II in the same area same bars same everything i only could pull at the most 1-2.5mbps... Terrible!
3. Last years technology! - I purchased my Infuse 4g on launch day. I can honestaly say without a shadow of a doubt the SGS II feels and looks JUST LIKE the Infuse 4g. The only real difference is the Infuse 4g has a single core processor and a slightly larger screen. If im going to be under contract for another two years why would i want the same technology i could have gotten almost a year ago?
All in all NOW i can say im happy with my SR. It may not be a huge upgrade but its a hell of a lot better than the Infuse 4g/SGS II. The SGS II feels like something is missing, as if it were rushed to the market and compared to the Skyrocket is just feels plain slow in every aspect (browsing, gaming, daily tasks,) It felt just like the Infuse 4g!!! I dont look at it as the Galaxy S II. I look at it as a smaller Infuse 4g or a slightly upgraded Infuse. Please if your considering jumping ship make sure your thuroughly spend your time with that phone first. Glad I did.
I beg to differ. There are a few things i dislike about the skyrocket, but they are not enough to send me back the SGS2.
1. The screen is crap. The extra .2" is nice, but the color calibration and the line/blob issue makes everything look terrible. Compare the skyrocket to an SGS2 or an Infuse and you will see exactly what i'm talking about.
2. I'm not a big fan of the rounded corners on the Skyrocket. I wish samsung would had made the phone similar to the infuse with different internals. Also, I wish the battery cover was a textured finish. The smooth finish IMHO feels cheap.
3. Developer support. The sgs2 is virtually the same exact phone as the european version and that means it gets the latest roms quicker. It is something i definitely miss after moving to the skyrocket.
The reason I won't go back to the SGS2 is I want LTE. But I do agree on the buttons on the SGS2. They are yellow and ugly.
Hopefully samsung will fix the skyrocket's screen defects and then I have no reservations in keeping it.
The lines/ blob are only visible on low brightness and on dark grey background. Manually set the brightness and you'll forget is there. There's nothing wrong with the screen is beautiful.
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Nice comments... I was wondering if there was support and development of rom, manly to ICS dev to this sgs II lte, because I have the sgs I9000 and there is a lot of support, for example, I am running ICS already.
In resume, SGS II LTE there's a great hardware but poor support, am I correct?
How are your thoughts right now?
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The lines/ blob are only visible on low brightness and on dark grey background. Manually set the brightness and you'll forget is there. There's nothing wrong with the screen is beautiful.
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This is far from the truth. I was using the same wallpaper on the gs2 as I was on the skyrocket, the chroma ICS wallpaper, and the first thing I noticed when I booted up the skyrocket is how horrible the wallpaper looked. Colors were not blended well and the black parts looked blotchy.
And who wants to keep their brightness up all the time. I like having a battery that lasts all day and to do that I need to keep the brightness down. Regardless the screen quality on the skyrocket is not even close to the skyrocket.
Glad to see I'm not the only one having trouble deciding between these phones. I actually have both, and find myself swapping between the two.
1. I think the GSII is probably the best feeling phone in my hand. love the textured back, perfectly thin. I agree that the rounded corners on the SR piss me off. I've dropped this phone 3 times because it slid out of my carpenter pocket. I have never dropped the GSII in this manner and I attribute it to this design. I also prefer the power button on the GSII (location, click-feel). Petty, I know, but when you can hold and play with both for weeks at a time, you notice these things.
2. Apps. I'm actually liking the stock feel (for now) and noticed that the GSII has better apps. I get a kick out of the Voice Command/Talk App on the GSII (I want to port it over), the movie edit app, little things, ya know?
3. I do love the screen, the extra .2" makes a difference. Colors seems a bit on the washy side, but side to side I believe it is because the SR tends to be brighter than the SGII. i'm sure I could manually adjust it, but then I lose the AutoBrightness, but it still looks gorgeous. I'd give the SGII a 10, and the SR a 9.5, very negligible.
4. LTE, that's it. This is probably the only reason I bought the SR. It was faster, cheaper, and LTE is so close to my market I can smell it.
I don't think I'll ever settle until either LTE is in my market, or the wife steals the GSII from me.
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the extra .2" makes a difference
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That's what she said. Sorry I just had to.
OMG...
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I beg to differ. There are a few things i dislike about the skyrocket, but they are not enough to send me back the SGS2.
1. The screen is crap. The extra .2" is nice, but the color calibration and the line/blob issue makes everything look terrible. Compare the skyrocket to an SGS2 or an Infuse and you will see exactly what i'm talking about.
2. I'm not a big fan of the rounded corners on the Skyrocket. I wish samsung would had made the phone similar to the infuse with different internals. Also, I wish the battery cover was a textured finish. The smooth finish IMHO feels cheap.
3. Developer support. The sgs2 is virtually the same exact phone as the european version and that means it gets the latest roms quicker. It is something i definitely miss after moving to the skyrocket.
The reason I won't go back to the SGS2 is I want LTE. But I do agree on the buttons on the SGS2. They are yellow and ugly.
Hopefully samsung will fix the skyrocket's screen defects and then I have no reservations in keeping it.
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Screen/color calibration has been beaten to death, give it a rest. If you got blobs, take it back and get it replaced. My SGSII had the lines issue, but AT&T was totally understanding when I was able to reproduce the problem. Then I took the leap because most of North Texas AT&T is LTE and went for the Skyrocket. I will NOT go back. The potential of a blisteringly fast phone is much more realistic with this phone, and I can wait for CM9 or MIUI or one of the others to show up to play with. And face it, that is what we are talking about.. PLAYING with the phone.This is my daily phone and I travel all over a four county region repairing computer hardware, and, the GPS in this under 2.3.6 syncs sooo much quicker than any other phones I have used. It just is not a contest PERIOD.
Give the devs a chance, be very nice if you even mention download location and alpha in the same sentence, and, be very grateful when they roll one out. If I had the time, I would love to try my hand at it, but, I really need to get up to speed on the basics first..
Or, if you are still in AT&T buyer's remorse program, you can always swap it for the 4s and a pink rhinestone incrusted case...
BTW: Does anyone really plan to use the phone without some sort of case protection? I just ordered the Otterbox and was told give them about another week and it will be out the door. The iMoshi washable screen protector is great, but, it is not exactly correct, and iMoshi is replacing it for free as soon as the next shipment with correct specs hits.
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BTW: Does anyone really plan to use the phone without some sort of case protection? I just ordered the Otterbox and was told give them about another week and it will be out the door. The iMoshi washable screen protector is great, but, it is not exactly correct, and iMoshi is replacing it for free as soon as the next shipment with correct specs hits.
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What is wrong with your Moshi screen protector, do you mean the circles not lining up? How are you getting Moshi to replace it? Did you buy it from their website or the att store? I have heard nothing about this.. lol
I had the Infuse and it frustrated the hell out of me. It seemed like it wanted to be a fast and functional phone, but it faceplanted daily. I moved to the HTC Vivid and I am not at all a Sense friend. It's a fast hone and has great features, but that seems like everything it can offer. I miss the screen on the Samsung phones already. What I really want to know is how well does the SR stand up to everyday use? I use Touchdown all day for work email, text a ton and use GPS daily as well. My kids watch movies on the phone when we travel and love to play games (shoot the apple is the latest.. try it!).
I don't care about a smooth back, it's getting cased. Is the camera as good as ppl say? How about the video? I've seen it skip and look choppy in some reviews when panning as cars drive by. Is it worth the 2yr extension? I've got 21 days left out of my 30 day return policy.
ROM wise, we wil get them, I've learned patience since I had my old Magic
Just received the htc one s today,I must say im impressed even coming from a galaxy nexus which i still have.The one s is so smooth and i must say i like sense 4, stock android got a little boring after awhile.Hate it if you want but sense brings some useful features to the table and it looks professional unlike touch wiz and the cartoon icons.Even tho its pentile amoled the screen looks much better than the galaxy nexus hd amoled screen reason mostly because of the blobs and lines on the nexus.Im huge on music and htc seems to always have better sound cards/drivers than sammy.Overall im happy with both phones i will occasionally switch back and forth when im bored now all i have to do is order a micro sim adapter =( and root but ill hold out till dev picks up
I too came from a Galaxy Nexus, and thus far, I'm happy I made the trade (equal swap, Galaxy Nexus with box and accessories new condition for a new condition One S with box and accessories).
The main reason I made the trade was because my Nexus had the worst case of the blues (and yellows). It had the worst blue-ish/yellow-ish tint/hue I've seen on any S-Amoled phone I've owned. The SGS2 I have is a lower res, but the S-Amoled Plus made a big difference in regards to generating accurate whites without a yellow layer looming over.
Ultimately I'm happy I made the swap and I actually realized that I prefer the 4.3 inch display with the soft capacitive buttons over the 4.65. I'm also one of the rare folks who prefers the pentile qHD display due to everything looking a bit sharper, which has been much easier on my eyes.
Glad you like the One S, I'm completely satisfied with mines so far and for the first time in 6 months of switching back and forth between phones, I've got a keeper, and have found the "One".
I havent really found the right one yet there seems to be flaws with all the phones in the past 6 months iv'e owned (iphone 4) lack of hspa+ speed on tmobile (sensation 4g)dust under screen over heating(amaze 4g)horrible battery life(galaxy s2)blobs and lines on screen,call echo with case on(galaxy nexus)i got lucky had minimal lines on screen only on extremely low lights.And now the one s.I love both the nexus and one s maybe i'll sell both and get the galaxy s3 when it comes out.But for now im enjoying it while my nexus gathers dust.
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I havent really found the right one yet there seems to be flaws with all the phones in the past 6 months iv'e owned (iphone 4) lack of hspa+ speed on tmobile (sensation 4g)dust under screen over heating(amaze 4g)horrible battery life(galaxy s2)blobs and lines on screen,call echo with case on(galaxy nexus)i got lucky had minimal lines on screen only on extremely low lights.And now the one s.I love both the nexus and one s maybe i'll sell both and get the galaxy s3 when it comes out.But for now im enjoying it while my nexus gathers dust.
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Haha, we're all almost identical in the phone's we've owned in the past 6 months.
I had (still have) an iPhone 4 (I know, dirty right? The games are still great, despite the smaller screen), and I also couldn't use it due to lack of 3G and running on slow ass edge. Also had an HTC Amaze with HORRIBLE battery, SGS2 had blobs, but the colors were great and battery life wasn't as bad once I flashed a great ICS Rom on it (shout out to TDJ for Darkside Evolution ICS port), Galaxy Nexus, which I actually liked, but personally, thought it was a bit too big and the screen color issues killed it for me, and now the One S, which I have yet to put down to be honest. My wife has been berating me about the time I spend with this phone (or all phones for that matter) as opposed to you know, couple things, but I can't help it, there's just so many choices!
The galaxy S2 wasnt bad at all i only jumped ship when i seen the nexus for 400.I ended up selling my white t989 for 450 and getting the nexus for 442 tax and shipping included..The t989 forums has little dev activity but they do have great devs most notably Eugene373 for his cm7 and muiu kangs..Since you've had the One S a bit longer than I is there any issues?And also hows the battery life so far.Its on par with the t989 on my end but i've only received the phone today..
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The galaxy S2 wasnt bad at all i only jumped ship when i seen the nexus for 400.I ended up selling my white t989 for 450 and getting the nexus for 442 tax and shipping included..The t989 forums has little dev activity but they do have great devs most notably Eugene373 for his cm7 and muiu kangs..Since you've had the One S a bit longer than I is there any issues?And also hows the battery life so far.Its on par with the t989 on my end but i've only received the phone today..
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So far battery imo has been better then the Nexus, and about on par with the SGS2, slightly better. I use Juice Defender to boost battery life, and it's helped. I've gotten up to 11 hours of very very heavy usage on the One S playing Temple Run for long periods of time, surfing the web, playing more temple run, texting, emailing, phone calls, navigation and gps, downloading apps, fiddling with the OS, etc, and this is all stock. I haven't rooted or installed a rom, I'm strictly stock as of right now. There's a few animation glitches here and there.
For example, when scrolling through the Gmail widget, the widget will think I'm trying to resize it, which gets annoying, but if you scroll slowly, you won't have that issue. I'm sure the carrier will send a fix for these minor mishaps.
Otherwise I've had a few data connectivity issues, and I live in a pretty good HSPA+ location where I get 15-22mb down and about 5-7 up. It sometimes goes into airplane mode on it's own only to turn back on, and I realize this because I'll get the notification for the same voicemail I haven't checked for 2 days. It doesn't happen very often and when it does, you probably won't even notice.
That's pretty much all I've spotted thus far, it's been great otherwise and I'm having fun playing with the stock build until I end up rooting it and flashing a rom (if I end up doing so, I'm enjoying stock enough to not feel it necessary to do so).
Plus, been getting great benchmarks, roughly 5000 on quadrant, which is much higher then stock ICS on the G-Nexus and the SGS2.
It's zippy, it's quick, it works well, Sense 4.0 isn't overbloated or cartoonish like TouchWiz, and it's thin enough to catch people's attention and ask me what it is.
So ultimately, I think you'll end up enjoying this device. It's really much cleaner and more fluid of an experience over the Amaze, and has just about the right battery life to get you through the day with moderate to high use.
Nice review ...How about cases,which do you have? I see they have the cruzer lite for the one s.
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Nice review ...How about cases,which do you have? I see they have the cruzer lite for the one s.
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Thanks
I haven't bought a case yet, I went to a kiosk in our local Galleria called "Gadget Guard", they went ahead and installed a complete body cover, great quality, perfect installation on the front and back, doesn't compromise the speaker grills, camera, or the flash. It also doesn't have the quasi-ridges that you see on Zagg protectors. So I'm content with this thus far until I see a nice case. Thing is, the phone is so elegant as is, so thin and feels great in the hand, that I feel somewhat bad casing it up. But on the other end, it's cash in my hand, so I have to protect my investment!
I hadn't seen those Cruzer cases, just googled it, those look sweet.
check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622006
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check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622006
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Ah man the clear one is nice, but so is the black one. Think I'm gonna order one of both. Thanks, I've been searching for cases, and I think I'm done searching now.
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check this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622006
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http://store.androidandme.com/cruze...rlite-androidified-a2-tpu-case/4A54A11361.htm
They have buy 2 get one free!!!
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Just received the htc one s today,I must say im impressed even coming from a galaxy nexus which i still have.The one s is so smooth and i must say i like sense 4, stock android got a little boring after awhile.Hate it if you want but sense brings some useful features to the table and it looks professional unlike touch wiz and the cartoon icons.Even tho its pentile amoled the screen looks much better than the galaxy nexus hd amoled screen reason mostly because of the blobs and lines on the nexus.Im huge on music and htc seems to always have better sound cards/drivers than sammy.Overall im happy with both phones i will occasionally switch back and forth when im bored now all i have to do is order a micro sim adapter =( and root but ill hold out till dev picks up
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I'm in the EXACT same position as you. Love both and will be switching between the two. Hate touchwiz and Samsung and love HTC. Oh well.
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It came down to the One S or the Galaxy Nexus for me and I am glad that I went with the One S. The design of the phone is just too beautiful. I've had the AOSP experience on ICS and I'm okay with Sense being on top. A phone that is 5 months ahead of another phone really proves what it can improve on and the One S is proof of that.
I too came from the Nexus Prime, and I like the screen of the one S better than the nexus, especially considering that the nexus had an HD screen. I also had the international one X and that screen is just AMAZING but unfortunately would not get T-Mobile 3G or 4G so I got the one S instead & I'm loving it. Slim design, excellent battery life and great screen. Only thing I would like would be a 32GB version like the one X and on screen keys like the nexus but overall I like it. The battery last way longer than the nexus.
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