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Rumor is around that HTC are prepping for an upgrade to HD2 with WinMo 7 .. http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12268
I like amoled screen after seeing the Nexus One vs the HD2's but I would prefer it being the size of the HD2's. The screen on a phone that size is a gigantic plus of the HD2. I also like the 4gb internal memory and micro sd card feature.
Good looking phone. My hope is the HD2 can be upgraded to WM7 so I can have a honest choice when my wallet catches up to my desires.
The phone mentioned in that story is reported to have a 3.7" screen.
Since the HD2's biggest statement is its screen size, I would not call anything an upgraded HD2 if it has anything less than a 4.3" screen.
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I like amoled screen after seeing the Nexus One vs the HD2's but I would prefer it being the size of the HD2's. The screen on a phone that size is a gigantic plus of the HD2. I also like the 4gb internal memory and micro sd card feature.
Good looking phone. My hope is the HD2 can be upgraded to WM7 so I can have a honest choice when my wallet catches up to my desires.
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if Nexus one that size I would get it in a heartbeat!
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Since the HD2's biggest statement is is its screen size, I would not call anything an upgraded HD2 if it has anything less than a 4.3" screen.
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Anything less than 4.3 would be a downgrade!
I think a 3.7" display would be fine..I love my HD2, but if it was a touch smaller, I wouldn't grumble either!!
Yeah, not just because screen it´s not bigger you can´t call it an upgrade.
Personally I prefer a screen of 3.7"
They're releasing an HTC HD2 with a smaler screen but AMOLED and better drivers.
Wow.
Amazing like a broken PC... lol.
IMHO this isn't a better device only because it has got 512MB RAM.. the HTC HD2's 4.3" screen is simply the better thing never seen. If only it would be AMOLED.........
Anyway, I think that I'll stay with my HTC HD2 for more than a year if they're releasing devices like this as a successor.
The only good thing to have is WM7 on the HD2.
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IMHO this isn't a better device only because it has got 512MB RAM.. the HTC HD2's 4.3" screen is simply the better thing never seen. If only it would be AMOLED.........
Anyway, I think that I'll stay with my HTC HD2 for more than a year if they're releasing devices like this as a successor.
The only good thing to have is WM7 on the HD2.
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I read somewhere that the screen of HD2 is capable of displaying 16 million colors but is limited to 65K because of WM 6.5. If this is true, we should be able to get 'near Amoled' experience with HD2 running WinMo 7.
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I read somewhere that the screen of HD2 is capable of displaying 16 million colors but is limited to 65K because of WM 6.5. If this is true, we should be able to get 'near Amoled' experience with HD2 running WinMo 7.
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Hardly. You won't even get close to OLED black levels on the HD2 screen, nor will you get the kind of smoothness of motion and lack of blur/judder that an OLED display gives you, nor will you get the major battery-life-extending benefits of OLED.
Even if the HD2's display is theoretically capable of >65k colours, it quite possibly still can't do 24-bit colour - most phone LCD displays are only 18-bit.
On the other hand, thus far most OLED screens seem to deliberately over-saturate the colours. My HD2's white point is a bit pushed to blue, but otherwise the colours are quite accurate. OLED sunlight readability is also often poor (although it has to be said the HD2's is pretty bad because the screen is so glossy).
Heh, well, the AMOLED display saturation is somehow superior in some images and it's not good while exposet at sunlight, but the battery life of an AMOLED screen device is really, REALLY SUPERIOR, because AMOLED simply powers down the pixel if it is pure black and it consumes less power because it plays on the voltage/amperage of an AMOLED pixel for "colouring" it.
Anyway, I'm just happy with my HTC HD2 and with his pretty BIG screen.... we can only wait and see if WM7 will use 24bit colors with the HD2's screen!
...I think the battery (1230 mAh) is not enough for this specs.
the obsession is just another device from htc coming after hd2 doesnot mean it is an upgrade to hd2 if it was we would consider td2 as an upgrade to blackstone
and upgrade means huge different in specifications (like between hd1 and hd2 so the 64 mb more ram is not a really upgrade as they have the same processor running at 1gz )
cause its size i think its more diamond3 than hd3... looks like my next phone
this would be my next phone too....but..who knows when we will ever see it....at best it's still 9 months away!!!
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cause its size i think its more diamond3 than hd3... Looks like my next phone
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you are right it seems to be upgrade for diamond 2
Whatever devices come out next, I`m hoping they will have a TV out (or even HDMI).
It would be great, to have a mobile film player wherever we go ( for the kids of course), but also would not have to remote desktop using a tiny screen.
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It's being released awfully late if it's an upgrade to the TD2; the TD2 launched last April, but the Obsession isn't out till October - HTC doesn't usually leave that long between refreshes. And from a 3.2" screen to 3.7" is quite a jump, especially bearing in mind that the TD2 was positioned specifically as a smaller and lighter equivalent of the Touch HD and TP2.
Still, I agree that the consensus does seem to be that it's a Diamond 2 replacement (possibly originally intended to ship earlier but delayed by the late arrival of WM7).
Any news up on this? Waiting for snapdragon WM6.5 phone with no giant screen to replace my Diamond1.
looking at the thread i was just wondering is there anyone who loves small and sharp displays
Hello,
I'm seriously doubting what phone i should buy, and therefore i want to ask if any of you have some advantages or disadvantages and some things that are just for taste so i can get a good idea of what the advantages and disadvantages are of the phones and just the things people like or hate about it?
My main points are ofcourse The android versions and the speed of the phones and if they are strong devices so if they don't break easily.
Thnx in advance!
The X10 is the weakest of the three handsets you've listed.
It's only a 65k LCD screen and it has no multi-touch.
Obviously, a part of that is due to the version of Android it's running but it's unclear whether any of that will improve when (or indeed, given it's Sony Ericsson we're talking about, if) they get round releasing an upgrade.
Aside from that, as nice as the Timescape app is on the X10, it just doesn't match Sense on the Desire.
The only point the X10 has in it's favour is that it's an 8MP camera but in my first-hand experience it was very, very poor even in good light. SE have said they will be adding HD video recording by way of a software upgrade but that won't be until the end of the year at best (and, once again, this being SE there is a history of taking missing deadlines by months, almost years).
As for the Nexus One, personally I see no advantage ot it over the Desire but, equally, it's not really any worse either, so I suppose it's all down to price where you are.
Whichever one you go for, they're both that bit better than the SE.
It may also be worth considering the Samsung Galaxy S with it's 5MP HD video (but no flash!?!) camera, 1GHz 'Hummingbird' CPU and 4" WVGA superAMOLED screen (basically all the advantages of AMOLED but you can use it in sunlight).
That or the up-coming Motorola XT720 which will offer an 8MP HD recording camera with a proper Xenon flash as well as HDMI-out, along with a decent all-round spec inclduing a 720MHz OMAP 3430 CPU, 512MB of RAM and a 3.7" 480x854 multi-touch LCD screen.
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The X10 is the weakest of the three handsets you've listed.
It's only a 65k LCD screen and it has no multi-touch.
Obviously, a part of that is due to the version of Android it's running but it's unclear whether any of that will improve when (or indeed, given it's Sony Ericsson we're talking about, if) they get round releasing an upgrade.
Aside from that, as nice as the Timescape app is on the X10, it just doesn't match Sense on the Desire.
The only point the X10 has in it's favour is that it's an 8MP camera but in my first-hand experience it was very, very poor even in good light. SE have said they will be adding HD video recording by way of a software upgrade but that won't be until the end of the year at best (and, once again, this being SE there is a history of taking missing deadlines by months, almost years).
As for the Nexus One, personally I see no advantage ot it over the Desire but, equally, it's not really any worse either, so I suppose it's all down to price where you are.
Whichever one you go for, they're both that bit better than the SE.
It may also be worth considering the Samsung Galaxy S with it's 5MP HD video (but no flash!?!) camera, 1GHz 'Hummingbird' CPU and 4" WVGA superAMOLED screen (basically all the advantages of AMOLED but you can use it in sunlight).
That or the up-coming Motorola XT720 which will offer an 8MP HD recording camera with a proper Xenon flash as well as HDMI-out, along with a decent all-round spec inclduing a 720MHz OMAP 3430 CPU, 512MB of RAM and a 3.7" 480x854 multi-touch LCD screen.
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Thnx for your reply!
I will have a look at those phones you mentioned! I currently possess the HTC Touch HD (Hate WinMo) and i find the screen a bit to small but the touchkeys are really nice! So i'm looking for a phone that has quite a large screen like the Evo 4G with Android. I like the X10 because of the larger screen and Android but i'm already rethinking buying that device. Something like the HTC HD2 would be really nice only with android operating on it! Which seems to me would be the Evo 4G but i cannot buy that phone since i live in the netherlands.
Do you know some upcoming devices or devices out now that i might like?
Thnx for your help!
Right, well, the Touch HD has a 3.8" screen so if you want larger than rules out the Desire/Nexus One and the Motorola XT720 as they're all 3.7".
The Samsung I mentioned has a 4" screen, so it'll be a bit bigger than the Touch HD's but you're talking 5mm difference diagonally, which isn't exactly huge. That said, if you were considering the X10 then the Galaxy S is the same size of screen.
Other than that, there's the Dell Streak but it's a 5" screen so it's a whole order of magnitude larger than the likes of the HD2/Evo 4G.
Moving on from phones that are already or about to go on sale, there's the on-going rumours of the Motorola Shadow/Droid Xtreme which is supposed to have a screen between 4.1 and 4.3" but it's very much a rumour and if it's anything like the last Droid, it'll be released in the US first and the rest of the world a fair while later.
And you won't even be able to buy it from the US to get it sooner because it's almost guaranteed that it'll be a CDMA handset on Verizon.
Looking at the handsets that GSMArena lists as running Android and having a screen larger than 4", apart from the ones I've mentioned there's the leaked Dell Thunder which will be a 4.1" but there's no confirmation of when or where it's going on sale; the Samsung 7" tablet which isn't really designed to be a phone at all; and some handset from a brand called 'i-mobile' that I've never even heard of.
I'm very surprised the Nexus S didn't come out with a higher resolution Super Amoled screen. Apparently, 2.3 supports higher resolution according to wikipedia. I'm just waiting for a new android phone with a higher resolution/pixel density to put the iphone 4 to shame.
Imagine, a Super Amoled screen with a 1024x768 or 1280x720 resolution would be the best mobile phone screen in the world.
When do you think we will realistically see android phones with higher resolution displays?
The current Super AMOLED screen already trades blows with the Retina Display. I'm sure there will be higher res screens at some point but whats the rush? Wouldnt a higher resolution screen be more of a burden on battery than the current screens already are anyway? I'd see resolutions that high being more relevant for tablets and PMP than phones.
Why? It will drain battery more and more, and higher resolution don't need for still small display. Just imagine, MP3 player with Desktop resolution.
Haha? Try push sensor button, wtf it's so small...
U wanna get more ability to use sensor keyboard? (sarcastic)
Well, android definitely needs to match or better the 640x960 resolution of the iPhone 4 to maintain feature parity.
The current SuperAMOLED screens are less battery consuming than old LCD and Retina, so bigger resolutions shouldn't be a battery problem.
But what's the point of having 1280x768 on a 4" screen?
I'm pretty satisfied with 480x320 on 3.2" and 800x480 on 4" looks also awesome.
The Meizu M9 have a 960x640 display, but (even if you are in china) this little boy is still difficult to find.
The next Meizu (M9ii) will have a 1280×854 or 1280×800 4" screen, and should be animated by a Tegra2 with 1Gb of RAM. They said that the release date will be on middle 2011, so maybe we will be able to grap it in the late 2011.
The two phones are running on a custom android 2.2 (the UI is very different from the classical Android).
For the battery, it's more backlight that drains power.
A higher resolution will only put a little more stress on the GPU, but if the OS is well coded, it should not consume a lot more.
DPI, its all about DPI
You can have all the DPI in the world, but all its gonna mean is LAG and Battery if we're still relying on the CPU to push pixels.
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Why? It will drain battery more and more, and higher resolution don't need for still small display. Just imagine, MP3 player with Desktop resolution.
Haha? Try push sensor button, wtf it's so small...
U wanna get more ability to use sensor keyboard? (sarcastic)
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You have absolutely no comprehension of what resolution is. Look at the iphone going from 480x320 to 960x640. Did the icons get smaller? No I didn't think so. You simply put more pixels into an icon the same size. Because it seems you're under the impression that pixel count determines image size.
however, there is no need for a higher resolution because the display is that too small. better resolution would look like the same as the resolution looks on current phones.
I can see several reasons to be interested in higher screen resolution (but IMHO you will need at least a 3.5" display):
Games
ok, that's not for today, but with ports like the unreal engine on android, phones will become more like a mobile console (PSP phone, for example). A better resolution sounds like a better playing experience, but will still need more powerful hardware (and that's on the way with multi core SOC)
Video
isn't that obvious? and it's essential if you're watching videos with subtitles
Internet
I don't know for you, but on my 800x480 handset, i have to zoom out to have the full page, and zoom in, etc...
With a better screen resolution, the navigation will be easier
It's not interesting for everybody, but I think clivo360 and I are not the only guys looking for a higher resolution screen
Although 4.3" is probably the upper limit for what you'd consider "pocketable", I'd still be attracted to bigger screens and more powerful phones because there are things that can take advantage of them, such as video. Imagine 1080p screens on a phone!
At some point though, phones are probably going to suffer the same problem that PCs did - that hardware outdoes all user needs. Imagine a point where the hardware has reached such a point where for the average user, they don't need the most potent phone anymore. We're already well on the way there. It happened with PCs, where the average user needs office software such as word processing, a spreadsheet, and the Internet, but nothing that demands crazy hardware (the average user is not a high end gamer we're talking here).
A better resolution makes even more difference on an SAMOLED screen compared to an LCD/SLCD - due to the PenTile matrix configuration of pixels a 800x480 SAMOLED screen doesn't really have as many pixels as an 800x480 standard LCD.
Just take a close look at the screen of a Nexus One or Nexus S at some text and you'll see it's slightly fuzzy. See here for more info
Better resolutions aren't available yet because a) it's a relatively new technology and b) manufacturers are having a hard enough time making enough just to cover the existing devices that use them.
AFAIK, there is only one Android device with a larger screen resolution that, as long as you don't live in the good old US of A (and even there it can be done), can make calls: the Samsung Galaxy Tab. But not exactly small enough to fit in your trouser pocket (although it does slip easily into a jacket pocket).
PS: The Tab is fantastic for video (1080p MKV supported), games and general browsing (with plugins set to on-demand) plus the odd short book, although you do look very strange if you answer calls on it without a BT headset (very Trigger Happy).
Ugh, I won't flame people saying we don't need higher resolution, though I wanted to...
Here is one basic application where the higher resolution really does make a difference: Reading text .PDFs.
I tried reading PDFs on my 800 x 480 Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and I wish the text was a little smoother. Sure, I'd like a slightly larger screen (no more than 4.3") but if the screen was larger I'd be even more desperate for higher resolution. I'd like to see 1024 * 640 on a 4" Android.
Higher resolution does not nesc. need more battery/CPU power: it's the brightness that uses the battery most.
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I tried reading PDFs on my 800 x 480 Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and I wish the text was a little smoother. Sure, I'd like a slightly larger screen (no more than 4.3") but if the screen was larger I'd be even more desperate for higher resolution. I'd like to see 1024 * 640 on a 4" Android.
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Doesn't your phone's AMOLED screen use the PenTile matrix? If so, that's a huge factor. I have 2 Droid Incredibles, one AMOLED w/PenTile matrix, the other SLCD. The SLCD has MUCH smoother text despite both being the same 480x800 resolution. AMOLED w/PenTile matrix has a "screen door effect".
Anyway, Toshiba might make your dream come true, and even exceed what you'd like to see.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/toshiba-enters-pixel-density-fray-with-367ppi-lcds-for-cellphone/
its true about the screen door effect. texting the g2x is very smooth dispite the resolution being the same as the vibrant.
Not sure I could put larger than 4.3" in my pocket
Hi,
I am looking for a replacement phone for my Galaxy S and I am doubting whether to buy the SGS II or the HTC Sensation, the most important thing is the screen!
And since the SGS had an aweful Pentile Matrix Layout RGBG, I would never buy another phone with a PM layout.
So straight to the point does the htc sensation have a Pentile Matrix layout?
Thanks in advance
Screen is an LCD and therefore has a RGB stripe subpixel layout. Pentile is used for oled screen technology.
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Screen is an LCD and therefore has a RGB stripe subpixel layout. Pentile is used for oled screen technology.
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Then, what is that?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4
Wow, I wonder why they did that, I'm not buying the blue phosphor stuff as how many lcd screens have you seen noticeably affected by this. Is this the only pentile lcd screen?
I wouldnt have thought that the Sensation would use pentile as none of the new HTC models with S-LCD screens have pentile as far as I'm aware.
I don't think this one is pentile matrix, but I don't have anything solid to back that up.
The SGSII is definitely not pentile matrix.
The screen on the sensation is super LCD qhd I'm pretty sure the super amoled plus screen on the sg2 is pentile matrix
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The SGS II doesn't have a pentile matrix that's for sure, since the plus in super amoled plus, stands for the extra subpixel (compared to Super Amoled)
Now I was wondering whether the HTC Sensation has a pentile matrix because the Atrix 4G has a pentile matrix aswell and that's qHD too!
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The SGS II doesn't have a pentile matrix that's for sure, since the plus in super amoled plus, stands for the extra subpixel (compared to Super Amoled)
Now I was wondering whether the HTC Sensation has a pentile matrix because the Atrix 4G has a pentile matrix aswell and that's qHD too!
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qHD is only a spec of resolution, not of screen type. qHD is one quarter of full HD resolution:
1920/2= 960
1080/2= 540
The qHD notation could be use on amoled, samoled, lcd, slcd or any type of screen, as long as it is 960 x 540 resolution.
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The screen on the sensation is super LCD qhd I'm pretty sure the super amoled plus screen on the sg2 is pentile matrix
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The sgs2 is NOT a pentile matrix.
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Wow, I wonder why they did that, I'm not buying the blue phosphor stuff as how many lcd screens have you seen noticeably affected by this. Is this the only pentile lcd screen?
I wouldnt have thought that the Sensation would use pentile as none of the new HTC models with S-LCD screens have pentile as far as I'm aware.
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Has nothing to do with the blue. The white pixel lends brightness. I'm sure its cheaper for them and easier to make. Ideally it should increase battery life.
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The screen on the sensation is super LCD qhd I'm pretty sure the super amoled plus screen on the sg2 is pentile matrix
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I see others have corrected you, but since your post my in reply to mine I felt irked enough to reply anyways. The SGSII screen is definitely NOT pentile. Samsung made a big deal about that at the launch, and its been widely publicised since. Using Google occasionally, before posting, is a great way to avoid espousing fictions publicly.
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Has nothing to do with the blue. The white pixel lends brightness. I'm sure its cheaper for them and easier to make. Ideally it should increase battery life.
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Erm, there is no suchh thing as a white pixel. Red Green and Blue combine to make white light. The anandtech article explains it well.
I do acknowledge that the blue may shut down quicker, but no other LCD uses this, so i dont believe its the reason Motorola used pentile matrix. Possibly too reduce the cost of creating a screen with high resolution by reduction the number of sub pixels to cram in. (or wichever lcd manufacturer moto uses)
Anyone know the answer to the OP?
As with many other people I'm torn between the SGS2 and the HTC Sensation... For me this could be the deciding factor.
Erm, there is no suchh thing as a white pixel. Red Green and Blue combine to make white light. The anandtech article explains it well.
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I believe the Atrix uses a RGBW PenTile arrangement - you can see it in the Anandtech cloe-up.
The sgs2 is NOT a pentile matrix.
Repetition of what others have said but,
GSII has no pentile matrix, the PLUS in super AMOLED Plus stands for 50% increase i sub pixels SO when you look at the screen, it'll appear in it's FULL resolution! No pixelating due to pentile.
Link will tell you what you need to know.
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus
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Repetition of what others have said but,
GSII has no pentile matrix, the PLUS in super AMOLED Plus stands for 50% increase i sub pixels SO when you look at the screen, it'll appear in it's FULL resolution! No pixelating due to pentile.
Link will tell you what you need to know.
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus
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THANK YOU! That description is accurate without the implied hyperbole of making it higher res and stuff. Sorry, I just hate the propaganda spewed by all companies and think that its hyperbole has no place here. Saying it makes it look higher res than it is is wrong, while your statement of "it'll appear in it's FULL resolution! No pixelating due to pentile." is perfectly accurate.
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THANK YOU! That description is accurate without the implied hyperbole of making it higher res and stuff. Sorry, I just hate the propaganda spewed by all companies and think that its hyperbole has no place here. Saying it makes it look higher res than it is is wrong, while your statement of "it'll appear in it's FULL resolution! No pixelating due to pentile." is perfectly accurate.
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even thought you'd think they'd "bat for AMOELD" it's a VERY good website. Just lays the facts of AMOLED.
So have you made your mind up yet??
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even thought you'd think they'd "bat for AMOELD" it's a VERY good website. Just lays the facts of AMOLED.
So have you made your mind up yet??
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Best kind of sites, the ones that will speak the impartial truth.
And yeah, the Sensation is the one I'll get. The camera is better on the Samsung but the higher res screen is a godsend for me (the resolution closes in on that of the original Galaxy Tab, HTC Flyer, and BB Playbook). Plus, I am upgrading from a Touch Pro 2, I really don't think any dual-core phone will disappoint me (except maybe for a Tegra2 one because I want High Profile H.264 decoding). I don't like the ergonomics of the SII or their UI (though their browser is buttery smooth). The new zoom method on the SII seems interesting but also seems to lack the precision needed to really make it useful (it'll most likely improve with time). Also, HTC in general is great with updates (I'm not saying anything bad about Samsung), they had 5 different ROMs for my TP2 and the latest update was released February of this year.
In summary these are my reasons for choosing the Sensation:
Higher resolution screen: great for reading web pages, novels, comics and I assuming it'll be great for document editing/formatting/creation. The colours on SAMOLED+ might be prettier but not as functional for me.
Camera, I need the cameras in general for spontaneous moments and for reference. To show what I was talking about or documentation moments, things, etc. (or even just avoiding the wasted paper of photocopies). I do wish it had more detail but it's enough for what I need (though what DOES bug me about it is that from some shots/videos you can see that it IS capable of capturing finer detail which makes me think the blurry/pastel-y parts are due to compression or noise reduction algorithms that are just too aggressive).
UI and HTC familiarity and product support (I honestly get the impression that Google's decision to ask companies to support devices for 18 months is going to affect HTC's practices and I mean that in a good way).
The processor might not be as good (MIGHT as it is still an ongoing debate and don't want people to jump down my throat) but it is better tenfold than the one I have at the moment.
And hey, I figure the "buttery smoothness" of the SII should be coming to all halfway decent phones, including the Sensation, when Ice Cream Sandwich comes out as Honeycomb supposedly supports GPU acceleration and so the Sandwich should too.
I am an informed shopper. I make sure I am aware of not only the advantages, but also the deficiencies, of what I buy but make the choice based on what's best for ME based on my likes/wants and NEEDS at the moment and near future.
Now I just have to do two things:
1) wait for reviews if they don't take too long to see if there's anything seriously wrong with the Sensation or something else that could change my decision (I doubt it).
2) Choose whether to buy an imported sim-unlocked version or import one from T-Mobile (This decision might be heavily influenced by the release date of unlocked versions and the programs pre-installed on the T-Mob version.
How about you Daivik? Make your choice? And don't worry, whatever it is I won't try to dissuade you
p.s. I read the Sensation manual and like that it has bilingual support for the keyboard/text prediction.. Something which is very useful for me (though for all I know the SII could have it).
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Best kind of sites, the ones that will speak the impartial truth.
And yeah, the Sensation is the one I'll get. The camera is better on the Samsung but the higher res screen is a godsend for me (the resolution closes in on that of the original Galaxy Tab, HTC Flyer, and BB Playbook). Plus, I am upgrading from a Touch Pro 2, I really don't think any dual-core phone will disappoint me (except maybe for a Tegra2 one because I want High Profile H.264 decoding). I don't like the ergonomics of the SII or their UI (though their browser is buttery smooth). The new zoom method on the SII seems interesting but also seems to lack the precision needed to really make it useful (it'll most likely improve with time). Also, HTC in general is great with updates (I'm not saying anything bad about Samsung), they had 5 different ROMs for my TP2 and the latest update was released February of this year.
In summary these are my reasons for choosing the Sensation:
Higher resolution screen: great for reading web pages, novels, comics and I assuming it'll be great for document editing/formatting/creation. The colours on SAMOLED+ might be prettier but not as functional for me.
Camera, I need the cameras in general for spontaneous moments and for reference. To show what I was talking about or documentation moments, things, etc. (or even just avoiding the wasted paper of photocopies). I do wish it had more detail but it's enough for what I need (though what DOES bug me about it is that from some shots/videos you can see that it IS capable of capturing finer detail which makes me think the blurry/pastel-y parts are due to compression or noise reduction algorithms that are just too aggressive).
UI and HTC familiarity and product support (I honestly get the impression that Google's decision to ask companies to support devices for 18 months is going to affect HTC's practices and I mean that in a good way).
The processor might not be as good (MIGHT as it is still an ongoing debate and don't want people to jump down my throat) but it is better tenfold than the one I have at the moment.
And hey, I figure the "buttery smoothness" of the SII should be coming to all halfway decent phones, including the Sensation, when Ice Cream Sandwich comes out as Honeycomb supposedly supports GPU acceleration and so the Sandwich should too.
I am an informed shopper. I make sure I am aware of not only the advantages, but also the deficiencies, of what I buy but make the choice based on what's best for ME based on my likes/wants and NEEDS at the moment and near future.
Now I just have to do two things:
1) wait for reviews if they don't take too long to see if there's anything seriously wrong with the Sensation or something else that could change my decision (I doubt it).
2) Choose whether to buy an imported sim-unlocked version or import one from T-Mobile (This decision might be heavily influenced by the release date of unlocked versions and the programs pre-installed on the T-Mob version.
How about you Daivik? Make your choice? And don't worry, whatever it is I won't try to dissuade you
p.s. I read the Sensation manual and like that it has bilingual support for the keyboard/text prediction.. Something which is very useful for me (though for all I know the SII could have it).
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Now that is a good reasoning!! Personally I think I'm swaying to the GSII.
1) I'm on T-mobile UK, who get all their phones late! :/ SO I don't think I could wait for the sensation (as it is the GSII is coming in in June...or later)
2) I prefer the sense look and feel, but I'm coming up from a Desire, so I feel as if I'm just buying a "Desire-pro"/"Desire-EPIC-HD" etc (you get the point?) and I'm the sort of person that likes change!
I also ended up just using launcherPro over sense on my desire also.
3) Watch is a big feature on HTC...but I have A RUBBISH 2mb internet speed, on a good day, so downloading movies is something that I haven't been able to do (without leaving my pc on over night!)
4)Being honest, I'm not totally happy about the TouchWiz messaging of contacts (it looks very "blocky/rectangular", but that's something I'll change/get over.)
5) the RAM, even though it is more that enough, it's just the sort of thing that will bug me, knowing that the GSII has 1GB. And internal memory, again even though 1GB is enough, I just fear running out, like on my desire.
And the GSII, should be coming on T-Mobile earlier than the Sensation, so it's the one i'll go for - But still will feel gutted that I won't be seeing qHD.
there's always next year...when hopefully, we'll be seeing 300+ PPI Super AMOLED plus panels!
My atrix 2 screen is very dark/black in shadows when looking at photos, compared to other phones when viewing the same photo the atrix 2 has no shadow detail, ive installed screen adjuster and lowered the contrast and its a bit better but that also makes the overall screen colour less vibrant (pale) any one else having this issue? Im on ICS leak but was the same on stock GB
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My atrix 2 screen is very dark/black in shadows when looking at photos, compared to other phones when viewing the same photo the atrix 2 has no shadow detail, ive installed screen adjuster and lowered the contrast and its a bit better but that also makes the overall screen colour less vibrant (pale) any one else having this issue? Im on ICS leak but was the same on stock GB
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The Atrix 2 does not have a pentile display like the Atrix 4G did. Therefore, it is far improved for certain colors such as green, yellow and black. However, a true black is difficult for LCDs of any variety. The color on the Atrix 2 is not as vivid when compared to other phones, especially the SGS series, however it should be noted that when you get down to it, the colors on the SGS line are actually overly vibrant, and as such are indeed further from the *true* color of whatever it is you are looking at vs. the Atrix 2. This is determined by doing color tests, however tests are really BS, because it's more about personal taste than anything else.
As to the Atrix 2 having a hard time with dark scenes, I have not experienced this to the degree you mentioned. I find the screen to be quite vivid, blacks/dark screens included. Even at low brightness it seems far improved over the OG Atrix. Other phones may have a better color definition in someone's opinion, however when tested against a color test, most are not as true as the Atrix 2, being slightly over vivid. I'd recommend exchanging your A2 for a different one given the description of the problem, assuming you have warranty or have recently purchased the A2, and are able to do so...
Thanks for your reply, i do like the screen apart from this issue, browsing and in the menus the screen is really nice, but when looking at photos they look un realistic (far to much contrast, black shadows) i dont think my hand set is faulty, i have seen a few others on a google search with this issue, it puts me off this phone, might sell it and get something else.
As the OP pointed out that yes there are a lot of people who echo this issue where any low light pic / videos are really dark to view despite full brightness maxxed of the display and I fully echo this too.
What really puzzled me was that I u/s HTC Evo 3D has exactly the same display tech spec as the Atrix 2 but when I compared my pals Evo 3D display against mine, HTC seems glorious to look at when viewing the display. Wonder what gives??
OP - what did you use to control contrast on your device? Also anyone if any 3rd party display control apps (incldng rooted) that could be advised of?