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Screen washed out on Sensation?

I am deliberating on whether to get a refund or ask for a replacement. Along with overheating(or just getting a little too warm) and reboots(twice a screen has come up and stated that "the device has done an improper reset please send info on to HTC) and non responsive screens and lags(My G2x has some of those too.) I now have noticed that the screen on my Sensation is really washed out. I put it on the same live wallpaper on the sensation as the G2X and it just looks really washed out on the Sensation. The viewing angle is extremely small.It reminds me of theMT4G fiasco a while back. I really do like the Sensation and I can put up with the battery running hot etc. but not with washed out screen. Has anyone else had this issue? I am looking for reasons to get a replacement and not just turn it in for a refund. The Sensation is sweet in many areas but I just cannot tolerate a washed out screen. I had the G2x and went through 4 of them before I got a screen that was tolerable. I do not want to go through that again. Any and all input and info is appreciated.

I have compared my Sensation side by side with my G2X to see the difference in screen and I would hardly call the sensation "washed out". The G2X screen is slightly brighter but that's about all the difference I really see. It sounds like (and no offense is intended with this statement) you're one of those people that are going to find a reason to have a complaint. I don't mean that to be offensive I mean that to say, the screen is what it is. If you feel like the screen is washed out, then there is no need for you to waste Sensations that other people could be getting. Just return it and move on to another phone.

doesn't G2X have IPS screen? It's kinda like comparing apple with orange there, you just can't compare the awesome viewing angle (170degree-ish?) on IPS screen with Super LCD.

The screen to me seems washed out, but NOT in comparison to other LED panels, but rather the fact that I was using a galaxy s before and not used to a back light on my phone.
After using it a few days out it hasn't driven me nuts like it has, and I know the only phone that I may like the screen on is the galaxy s2, and that's just the deep blacks, and I prefer the cool color temp vs the warm I notice on this phone.

tenbeau said:
I am deliberating on whether to get a refund or ask for a replacement. Along with overheating(or just getting a little too warm) and reboots(twice a screen has come up and stated that "the device has done an improper reset please send info on to HTC) and non responsive screens and lags(My G2x has some of those too.) I now have noticed that the screen on my Sensation is really washed out. I put it on the same live wallpaper on the sensation as the G2X and it just looks really washed out on the Sensation. The viewing angle is extremely small.It reminds me of theMT4G fiasco a while back. I really do like the Sensation and I can put up with the battery running hot etc. but not with washed out screen. Has anyone else had this issue? I am looking for reasons to get a replacement and not just turn it in for a refund. The Sensation is sweet in many areas but I just cannot tolerate a washed out screen. I had the G2x and went through 4 of them before I got a screen that was tolerable. I do not want to go through that again. Any and all input and info is appreciated.
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I had the same problems with the reboots. I've contacted HTC support and they advised to replace the phone as they don't have any fix for that yet.

Washed out due to the 4.3inch factor.. desire S has the highest contrast for SCLD since its TINY. I feel colours are accurate on the sensation compared to desire s and incredible S
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I agree the screen gets washed out quickly due to narrow viewing angles. However besides this issue it's an excellent screen, both colours and resolution.
I haven't had any touch issues (not able to move the circle etc) after uninstalling laucher pro and other alternative launchers.
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wouwout said:
I agree the screen gets washed out quickly due to narrow viewing angles. However besides this issue it's an excellent screen, both colours and resolution.
I haven't had any touch issues (not able to move the circle etc) after uninstalling laucher pro and other alternative launchers.
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Is this lockscreen issue happening because of installing other launchers? Are you sure of that? There are people on this forum suffering from that.

Figure_desire said:
Is this lockscreen issue happening because of installing other launchers? Are you sure of that? There are people on this forum suffering from that.
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Yes, I had terrible touch and unlock issues, after moving back to sense and unnstalling it has been fine. For about a week now.

Many HTC phones have the issue where there are Good/Bad screens, hope that is the only problem it has and hopefully no Bad Emmc Chips like on Current htc phones.

I have the Sensation and Galaxy S II here and head-on the difference isn't that huge.
Obviously the colours pop more on the AMOLED and the blacks are very deep, but to be honest I wasn't disappointed with the screen on the Sensation, its certainly sharper, which counts for a lot.
If you look from a tight angle the screen does look extremely washed out, but in real world use you probably are going to be looking at it head-on most of the time.
It could be worse on yours though and your phone could be faulty, so I'd get it replaced and see if the new one is an improvement.

mysterioustko said:
I have compared my Sensation side by side with my G2X to see the difference in screen and I would hardly call the sensation "washed out". The G2X screen is slightly brighter but that's about all the difference I really see. It sounds like (and no offense is intended with this statement) you're one of those people that are going to find a reason to have a complaint. I don't mean that to be offensive I mean that to say, the screen is what it is. If you feel like the screen is washed out, then there is no need for you to waste Sensations that other people could be getting. Just return it and move on to another phone.
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I have experienced washed out screens with the HTC MT4G and after 4 I got one that was not washed out or had screen issues.If you check back in the MT4G thread you will see it was quite an issue and was widespread. I merely was attempting to see if others had the same issue or if it was just the way the screen is(head on fairly good, at an angle not good) so I could make an informed decision as to whether to just send it back or try one more. It appears(no offense intended) that you may be a fan boy who dislikes anyone bringing issues(or questions) to the forefront. I do not mean that to be offensive. I was not complaining but just gathering information concerning the screen so that I would not waste any of your Sensations. I am sure there will be more than enough to go around.

Robboftw said:
I have the Sensation and Galaxy S II here and head-on the difference isn't that huge.
Obviously the colours pop more on the AMOLED and the blacks are very deep, but to be honest I wasn't disappointed with the screen on the Sensation, its certainly sharper, which counts for a lot.
If you look from a tight angle the screen does look extremely washed out, but in real world use you probably are going to be looking at it head-on most of the time.
It could be worse on yours though and your phone could be faulty, so I'd get it replaced and see if the new one is an improvement.
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I find this extreamly hard to belive.
MANY PEOPLE who have the Desire S and the Inspire S have commented about how much worse the Screen on the Sensation is.
So then how can the SAMOLED screen not have a large difference when Comparing the Infuse (which has a crappier quality SAMOLED screen then the GS2) is a HUGE improvement over the Inspire 4g ?

Maedhros said:
I find this extreamly hard to belive.
MANY PEOPLE who have the Desire S and the Inspire S have commented about how much worse the Screen on the Sensation is.
So then how can the SAMOLED screen not have a large difference when Comparing the Infuse (which has a crappier quality SAMOLED screen then the GS2) is a HUGE improvement over the Inspire 4g ?
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You can believe what you like. There is no doubt that the SAMOLED screen is the best around (except maybe for the iPhone screen), but the Sensation screen is perfectly acceptable. The benefits of it are the extra resolution which is very noticeable in portrait operation and it is generally sharper and smaller text is much easier on the eye.
The Sensation has worse viewing angles than the non qHD SLCD screens, but head-on there is nothing wrong with it at all. I don't think most people are going to be too concerned about what the screen looks like at a fairly harsh angle. I'm certainly not. If you are, you want AMOLED.

Actually, I find the viewing angles really strange on this phone. I find that in some cases the screen actally performs better slightly off from a perpendicular angle.
For example, when viewing video in landscape on HTC watch. Dead on, the contrast is not great in dark scenes and detail is hard to make out (particularly in faces), but rotated a couple of degrees up or down is much better. I find that lowering the backlight (or using auto-backlight) makes things better for landscape video - note that the battery saver feature likes to disable auto brightness and neglects to re-enable it (i would not be surprised if this is to blame for many people reporting washed out colours, due to backlight being stuck at full power)
I'm not saying the screen is bad - it most certainly is not - but the incredible s has much better (but lower res) screen viewing angles. However, compared to the UK Desire HD screen (which is stardard lcd), the sensation screen is infinitely better.
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Maedhros said:
I find this extreamly hard to belive.
MANY PEOPLE who have the Desire S and the Inspire S have commented about how much worse the Screen on the Sensation is.
So then how can the SAMOLED screen not have a large difference when Comparing the Infuse (which has a crappier quality SAMOLED screen then the GS2) is a HUGE improvement over the Inspire 4g ?
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What he said is absolutely correct. There is not much difference. If you compare them side by side you will see what he means. But yes he is correct.

I've had a MyTouch 4g with the crappy Sharp screen and a Mytouch 4G with the superb Sony screen. The Sensation screen, as far as viewing angles go, is between the two. It's a good screen, but not as good as they Sony screen in the MyTouch. The G2X has better angles and better colors (the G2X is actually a very nice screen, save for uniform black levels) but the Sensation has uniform blacks! I returned my G2X because of the light bleed and so far I'm very pleased with the sensation.

Maedhros said:
I find this extreamly hard to belive.
MANY PEOPLE who have the Desire S and the Inspire S have commented about how much worse the Screen on the Sensation is.
So then how can the SAMOLED screen not have a large difference when Comparing the Infuse (which has a crappier quality SAMOLED screen then the GS2) is a HUGE improvement over the Inspire 4g ?
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Maybe the Sensation having a higher resolution balances out the viewing angle. Here's something I just read earlier today in the engadget review of the Sensation:
In our review of the Galaxy S II, we opined that though its display was of superlative quality, its pixel density left a little something to be desired. The Sensation gives us that extra flourish with a 960 x 540 resolution (35 percent more pixels than on Samsung's 800 x 480 panel) on a Super LCD screen that fails to match the vivid output or viewing angles of its Super AMOLED Plus competitor, but at least maintains a similarly hyperbolic naming scheme. There are two significant advantages to moving up to qHD resolution. The first and most tangible is that you get more of everything: Gmail displays more missives, the browser fits more of your favorite blog's content at a time, the calendar includes more agenda items, and you get to see more of your contacts without having to scroll (11 on the Sensation versus 9 on the WVGA Incredible S screen). Additionally, though the user interface sticks to the standard 16 grid slots for your icons and widgets, having them all in higher resolution lends an extra layer of visual polish, if nothing else. The camera and gallery apps benefit from having more dots to display your compositions and resulting images.
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In terms of the Sensation's output quality, it merits noting that in spite of its 4.3-inch display bearing the same branding as the 4- and 3.7-inch ones on the Incredible S and Desire S, it is not up to the same standard. Viewing angles are the first giveaway, as they're nowhere near as expansive on the Sensation. At 45 degrees away from center, the Sensation's picture washes out, whereas the Incredible S maintains color fidelity until laid almost flat. Additionally, the smaller handset is brighter and better saturated than its newcomer buddy. None of this is to say that HTC has installed a poor LCD on the Sensation, we'd just refrain from calling it a Super one. As to our running tally against the Galaxy S II, the Sensation wins out on resolution, but loses by a big margin when it comes to quality and the sheer feeling of luxury that the GSII provides.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/

My Sensation Vs my Unbranded GS2 Screen

Very quick here I can say I'm in love with my Super Amoled plus Screen but having both Sensation and Gs2 right here I thing Qhd is the way to go I can see why people say the Qhd screens are true color vs Super plus via samsung what's your thoughts??
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720p Super HD AMOLED!
But if I had to choose between the two, qHD S-LCD. Yes, Super AMOLED+ has richer color and much better viewing angle, but Sensation's color and view angle is good enough for me. Higher pixel density makes a much bigger improvement for day-to-day use, although it doesn't give the immediate wow factor like the Super AMOLED+.

My thoughts? SLCD is absolutely worthless outside. Even when I pump brightness all the way up it isn't usable in direct sunlight, and it's hardly usable in moderate sunlight. Do I like qHD? Yes, but that brings me to the next point:
Get the best of both worlds with the Galaxy Nexus. High res AND not SLCD. Heck, even wait a bit longer if you want in order to get high res, SAMOLED, AND RGB if Pentile bothers you enough. I can guarantee that SAMOLED+ phones that are high res will start coming out early 2012, and personally I can't wait because I hate SLCD.

US is getting a SGS2 with 720P SAMOLED+ screen

Nekromantik said:
US is getting a SGS2 with 720P SAMOLED+ screen
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where'd u hear that from lol. sounds sick.
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my bad its South Korea not US
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s2-hd-is-a-super-powered-s2-50005350/
1.5ghz cpu
720P display

Doesn't LG already have a phone out with a 720p IPS display in South Korea? Uses the same processor as the Sensation.
Edit: Nevermind, it's coming out soon.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/17/lg-teases-lu6200-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-cpu-720p-hd-display-gin/

Yea, I had heard it was coming out in Korea, so surprised when I heard u say it was coming here. I don't think Samsung would cannibalize sales of their Nexus here in the states.
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If you had to change phones soon...

I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?

bossku69 said:
I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?
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TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)

I have the Galaxy Nexus right now and its the best phone I've ever had. Sure they're some minor problems with it like with any new device. But nothing at all that makes it unusable or annoying.
I wouldn't wait for phones that come out at CES 2012 because they won't be available until Q2 at least. Plus all the Quad Core phones will all have problems working the kinks out since they'll be brand new. Much like the Thunderbolt, Charge, Revolution, and the (first) Bionic.
So my advice is to go with the Nexus. Better experience, faster updates, best phone I ever came across. Makes the iPhone 4S look puny and not fun at all IMO of course
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If you have to change now, go for the Nexus. If you can wait some months, then wait.
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Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...

blarrick said:
Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...
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Why do you say the RAZR is better than the Rezound for stock users out of curiosity? I could have had either as my displacement and went with the Rezound because it appeared to be the better phone overall based on what I read.
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The Nexus is still better for stock users because it's the only one with ICS. The OS is far more intuitive and coherent than Gingerbread, and that's exactly what matters the most for those users.
The only pluses in general for the Razr versus the Nexus are its thinness (and it's not even a huge difference compared to the Nexus, it's much more noticeable compared to the chunktastic Rezound) and less-plasticky/more durable build (kevlar back, splash-proof coating, not made by Samsung).

With what I know from reading -- I'd go for the Nexus. ICS cannot be ignored, and couple that with the amazing AMOLED screens Samsung uses and you have a winner.
I believe ALL the phones have some quirks, you just have to make sure you can live with them.
The Charge was not considered a successful phone, it was the baddest mama jama when I bought mine in early June and though its not perfect, it got a breath of life when GB was released for it. Fixed most of my issues!

anoninja118 said:
TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)
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Hes actually right. If youre getting a new phone just wait for the next big phone. We have Tegra 3 coming to smartphones in Q1 and just look at the 12mp camera/quad-core phones running ICS coming just in the first 3 months of this year. Wait it out bro.

Nexus is the best phone out there right now. As for the issues you're having, if you want full Exchange support, get a Windows Phone, otherwise get Touchdown as that is the only way to have reliable Exchange support on Android. Really though, I think you'll find problems with your next phone too just based on the OP.
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).

ambrar12 said:
I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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beats audio is garbage unless you like rap/hip-hop (thankfully the beats 'technology' doesn't kick in unless you plug in those craptastic beats headphones), the Rezound *might* have the Nexus beat in processor and camera but Nexus wins IMO screen-wise, its also unbloated/unskinned, will have first dibs on updates and with the zero lag shutter... meh its a toss-up I think, both are solid phones but I'd kinda lean toward the Nexus
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ambrar12 said:
I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.

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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.
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Also it took the rezound like 2 months just to receive root so their Dev community is probably pretty bare
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.

ambrar12 said:
Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Hooray for an ICS ROM that is very buggy, I know I'll use that all the time Can't wait to get a Sense'd version with as many useless apps as Verizon and jam into it. Glad to see you ignored the AOSP comment completely as well.
The screen statement is somewhat untrue as well. The issue with battery life comes when you're using bright colors or video. If you use black, you get excellent battery life as black pixels use 0 power for AMOLED screens, how much power does a black pixel use on an LCD panel? Inaccurate colors are one thing, as that depends on several factors, but it can be corrected, as can the over-saturation. Are there issues with the technology? Sure, but I'll take a SAMOLED screen over an LCD panel every day. Oh, and how about contrast ratio comparison between the two? How about comparing the thickness of a full screen assembly (touch sensor, backlight, and display) between AMOLED and tradition LCD? There are reasons that it's being used, despite how bad you think the technology is.
No MicroSD slot, now we're just nit-picking. Is it a bad thing? Kinda. However, how often do people change them? I only ever changed it out to get a faster card. The only thing I miss about having one is that I could just copy over my backed up data easily to the Nexus. Other than that, it's pointless and I don't see anyone having issues with the lack of a microSD card.
Oh, you also forgot to comment about the GPU tests and the camera. Is the Rezound a bad phone? No, but if you want long term support, I don't think you're going to beat the Nexus as it will see several updates in the future, and even if Google stops updating it, the community will keep it going. Plus, any issues you see can be fixed by the community before Google gets around to it, so you can see fixes faster if there are problems. The Rezound? It will probably see an OTA to ICS, then probably two more OTAs for bug fixes, after that, probably not much. Good luck getting AOSP on it, as that will take a long time, if ever; just see the Thunderbolt as an example. Community driven fixes? When's the last time HTC took bug fix advice from the public if it wasn't a security issue?

ambrar12 said:
Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Haha Rezound. You can keep that fat, whored-out (Beats scam, bloated up, Sense..), cheesy red colored locked-down brick. HTC is really becoming like Motorola by locking down their devices which creates delays and frustration for people like us. It will receive an update sure.. once. Until they release their new Super Amazing Incredible Orgasmic Deluxe 4G.
Also I hate the volume and power buttons on that phone, they are pretty much flush and have no tactile feel (mushy), don't even start on the horrendous battery life of HTC phones.
Sure the GNEX might not be ideal in every way, but neither is the Rezound. Just because you prefer it doesn't mean everyone else does too

I'd take SAMOLED Plus over LCD, but my personal experience with Pentile (browsing at Verizon store) has been pretty negative.
My point with the SD card was for the sake of extra storage. This is one of the most irritating aspects of the iPhone. These days there are 64 GB microSDXC cards out. The 32 GB card price keeps falling.

I'd wait too. I would want something with dev support like the Galaxy Nexus, but at least 8 MP rear-facing camera and hopefully >2 MP front-facing.

Go with the Nexus if you need a phone now....I have it and I love it. There are almost too many developers on that phone, which is a nice change coming from the charge.
The thing that annoys me most about the Rezound is the power button is on the wrong side of the phone. I use either my thumb or pointer finger of my right hand to push the power button. It's pretty awkward doing that on the rezound. Maybe it's just me lol

[Q] Screen, PenTile, Thoughts?

Hello,
I've been reading these forums for ages and decided it was time to actually share some thoughts.
Since my HD2 broke a few weeks ago I am looking for a new phone. I wanted to buy a GSII or HTC Sensation but after hearing about HTC's One line I decided I could wait another month.
Now I am considering both the One S and the One X.
My thoughts about these phones:
I do not really care about the processor as long as the phone runs smooth, I expect them both to be fine at this point
The lack of a SD-card slot doesn't really bother me as well
A non-removable battery will be something I have to live with
Now the real differences to me are:
Size/form: The one S looks like a way better sized to me. I doubt I could like a phone beyond ~4.5". I also think the black ceramic looks really beautiful. The One X looks good as well, but the vulcano-shaped camera is just ugly to me.
Costs: the One S is a bit cheaper
Display: reading the reviews I think it's easy to conclude the One X is definitely way ahead of the One S
Now my question: Is the qHD Super Amoled Pentile display on the One S really that bad? Sure it might not look good when viewing at 15cm distance. But that won't be the way I will be using the phone. I read about the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus One having a PenTile Amoled screen as well. Though a lot of people complain about the Nexus One, I do not hear that much complains about the Galaxy Nexus' screen. Is this due to the higher resolution?
How would the One S' display look compared to, say, the HD2 800x480 WVGA display?
Can't wait to test them in real life!

Advantages of qHD Pentile SAMOLED:
- Excellent contrast
- True Black
- Colors that pop out of the screen
- In 4.3" is a decent PPI but not best, meaning it will sharp but it could be better (coming from HD2 you shouldn't notice that much difference unless you compare it side by side with a higher resolution screen)
- Longer battery life IF using a lot of black (which ICS uses, but webpages don't)
Disadvantages:
- Not so sharp text (because of Pentile Matrix and not so high resolution combined)
- "Dirty Whites", no matter how well calibrated is the screen white is one of the colors that usually suffer more with Pentile Amoled screens
- Shorter battery life IF surfing the web a lot or using applications with predominant white color
- Poor outdoor performance in shiny days compared with many LCD screens
I'm sure I'm missing some others, but that pretty much sum the pros and cons of SAMOLED screens with Pentile.
And you're right about Galaxy Nexus screen, the only advantage that alleviates the sharpness problem is the higher PPI, but even so the problems are there just less noticeable.

Compared to the HD2s 64K only colors screen I think you will be delighted with any of the newer screens, pentile or not.
I had an Amoled Desire and indeed the pentile layout is a little less sharp but it didn't bother me at all and I will be happily buying a One-S when it becomes available.

You should see what people say about the Droid Razor because that has a qhd samoled pentile screen. Check reviews and stuff, from what I read (very little) the screen isn't that great according to theverge and engadget, but go check it out at the Verizon store and you will have a good idea of how the screen will look. IMO its just a small "issue" because the rest of it is pretty bad ass.
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Yeah, I have a friend who has the RAZR and the screen is pretty shoddy. Its not so much the sharpness, but it has a really strong blue tint if you look at it even slightly tilted. Its not even a tint, white turns into blue. Not sure if that just came from a bad batch but if that's the screen that the One S will have I have to be a bit concerned.
My Vibrant has a slight blue tint as well but its not nearly as strong. If the One S has a screen closer to the Vibrant than the RAZR then it's perfectly fine.

Nice to read your opinions! It's always nice to see how people have totally different opinions about the same thing.
I, really like a sharper, higher resolution screen. I kinda get annoyed when text gets blurred. Yet if it is only really noticeable when taking a closer look I won't mind.. The colored white is something I am a bit worried about though. I quite like the more saturated colors.
I think we can conclude that I (we) will just have to wait to see the device in real life. As long as it does not bother me when watching from a little distance I guess I will take it! Apart from the screen the specs are great and it just looks very very nice..

I didn't think there was anything wrong with the AMOLED screen on the One S when I had a play with it on Friday just gone, and colours were noticeable brighter than the One X's SLCD2 screen (as you'd expect)
The weight and thinness of the One S was nice, though - didn't expect it to be so light/slim

The Screen seems to be that same like the one in the motorola razzr. I did have the razzr for a few days and i can tell that i didnt like it. Colors were not accurate and in some circumstanced it looked really really bad (red backgroud with text on it)

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I didn't think there was anything wrong with the AMOLED screen on the One S when I had a play with it on Friday just gone, and colours were noticeable brighter than the One X's SLCD2 screen (as you'd expect)
The weight and thinness of the One S was nice, though - didn't expect it to be so light/slim
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Thanks for the impressions.
I think that this may be a Motorola thing. I had a look at a Droid 3 yesterday and despite it being qHD, it was noticeably more pixelated than my Vibrant at WVGA. I barely notice the pixelation on my phone unless I really look for it. Does Samsung provide these screens? Maybe they're sabotaging their competitors?

doesn't seem too bad even compared to the one x

stesa said:
doesn't seem too bad even compared to the one x
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You'll never notice a difference between two small screens from a far distance, remember you use a phone very close to your face, and even then not everybody see things in the same way and some people claim not being able to notice the pentile pixelation (others like me see it).

For me the pentile SAMOLED is good if not the best... I have a Galaxy S and I found the screen to be pretty good(Was using LCD droid before).. Anyways gsmarena reported the pentile screen of the One S to be better than earlier pentile screens.They said HTC used some of its tech on the screen resulting in better pentile SAMOLED.. Btw am also planning to buy the One S .. Very disappointed by Samsung support.
Here is the article on the One S screen
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_s_and_one_x_displays_detailed-news-3940.php

Yeah it's kinda weird how everyone is really positive about the One S' screen. It sounds like it has the same screen as the razzr, and a lot of people complain about Motorola's screen.
Anyway, maybe they improved the PenTile performances. We'll see soon enough!

I think Motorola just does a poor job calibrating their screens. I have no problem with the Pentile screen on the Vibrant. Its obviously no retina display but it's very sharp considering the screen size and resolution.
The only thing that sort of bugs me about the screen is how saturated everything is. Some people like that but I would prefer more natural tones. This is just personal preference though.

As an owner of AMOLED desire, i can say that its the best! It depends a lot on when and where you use your phone most. For me, thats in office and in my room at night.
Especially in a dark room, nothing can compare to the infinite contrast and excellent blacks of SAMOLED screens. Also very good for showing pictures to others, as they appear vibrant.
I guess my 2nd preference would be the IPS display from LG (like the one on Optimus 2X).

One VERY annoying aspect of SuperAMOLED is the burn in and wear.
I had an SGS before and the black statusbar got burned into the screen after 3-4 months of use.
It won't go away no matter what and it gets super annoying when holding the phone in landscape and watching video.
The wearing of the screen makes the colors less vibrant and not as bright.
I did love AMOLED before it burned in but after that I couldn't take it anymore so I got a sensation and passed my SGS down to my little sister.

I'm not sure that is normal.. though all screens can get some degree of burn in, it shouldn't be permanent.
Could be just a bad phone?
Both me and wife have amoled phones (me desire, her sgs) and don't notice any Burn in.
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It would be nice to know how the screen compares to say a SGS

I have a one s and my wife also, no issues with screen this is now my 9th HTC and clarity and colours are fine, you'd have to be very picky to complain that its not up to the job. This is one cracking phone, i'm sure i'll find some bugs but for now its great.

Jazd71 said:
I have a one s and my wife also, no issues with screen this is now my 9th HTC and clarity and colours are fine, you'd have to be very picky to complain that its not up to the job. This is one cracking phone, i'm sure i'll find some bugs but for now its great.
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I am thinking about both One X and One S, but screen is really important for me, because I had iPhone 4S for more than a month and can say, that I see so many pixels now So the question is, can you see pixels on One S screen? Is it sharp and clear?

My Video Review - One S vs. iPhone 4

Hey guys, I did a lengthy review of the One S and iPhone 4 - Apologies for the lighting, the camera I was using wasn't functioning properly in bright light so I had to lower the lighting in the room. However the video is emphasizing the OS' on both handsets and YouTube will allow it to go up to 720p streaming quality.
Clearly, there can only be "One" winner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueGM716rVTA

I almost quit your video when you talked about the screens...
Under 1.5' you CLEARLY see the PenTile crap on the One S. There's no way to see a damn 1px line on that phone, it will display a dotted line...
Otherwise we have more or less the same thoughts about our phones.

NienorGT said:
I almost quit your video when you talked about the screens...
Under 1.5' you CLEARLY see the PenTile crap on the One S. There's no way to see a damn 1px line on that phone, it will display a dotted line...
Otherwise we have more or less the same thoughts about our phones.
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Yeah if you know about it, you'll notice it.
However most consumers aren't aware of what a Pentile screen is, so they'll hardly notice it unless they're being told to look for it.
Honestly it's only an issue with home screen icons and some text when zoomed out. Video and pictures look crisp and clear as day, as do games. The whites do tend to be unbalanced, but that's more or less the blending of S-Amoled and Pentile. The Amaze, which is non-pentile and sports an S-LCD qHD display, definitely is the sharper of the two displays. But the colors and lack of any screen bleed (which you get on the Amaze) makes the One S tops in comparison. I'm a fan of the retina display, I'm just not a fan of the screen size, and I emphasize that in the video.
Thanks for watching.

Can you explain more about pentile. I don't see what so bad about it.
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Can you explain more about pentile. I don't see what so bad about it.
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Err, well if you don't see a problem with your phone's screen you are better to not start looking to know why some have issues with it.

NienorGT said:
Err, well if you don't see a problem with your phone's screen you are better to not start looking to know why some have issues with it.
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It doesn't matter since ima get the Galaxy S3 anyways
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It still a PenTile screen lol... But if you don't notice something wrong with the One S you will certainly not see a problem with the GSIII since the resolution is much densier.

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It still a PenTile screen lol... But if you don't notice something wrong with the One S you will certainly not see a problem with the GSIII since the resolution is much densier.
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seriously? Then I guess ill go back to my one X. I was gonna switch back anyways since it has a larger display and more memory, but just wanted to know about pentile
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NienorGT said:
Err, well if you don't see a problem with your phone's screen you are better to not start looking to know why some have issues with it.
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Yeah I would advise that as well.
I never noticed it until I read up about it, then it was a never ending mission to analyze sub pixels. It got to the point where I had to de-program myself from noticing, and since the One S does have as vibrant of a screen as it does, I've been able to overlook it.
Though I agree that in comparison to a non-pentile like the Amaze, you will notice it. In comparison to Retina, you'll definitely see coloration issues with the way the pentile portrays whites.
With that said, I really don't think it's as bad as people make seem, specifically on a 720p screen. I never noticed it on my G-Nexus, though I did get quite annoyed with the yellow/blue tint/hue that the whites put out. That bothered me much more then pentile, bar none. To each their own, everyone has a different set of eyes and will see things differently. In a way, I'm beginning to like the pentile because it makes icons and text come out a bit sharper, and just seem more comfortable for my pair of eyes.
The Amaze, and even a display like the G2X's with IPS really had no problems with the jagged edges and such on icons, and though the SGS2 Hercules has a 480x800 resolution, it was non-pentile Super Amoled Plus, which imo was the best in the market for that specific resolution. But where the Amaze was good with rendering smooth icons/text, it was bad rendering blacks and dark colors, because of the S-LCD screen bleed that was prevalent with the capacitive button lights. Once you turn them off though, you won't notice it.