Hi,
The link below mentions that rooting prevents OTA updates.
businessinsider.com /best-android-security-apps-and-tricks-2011-3#dont-root-your-android-device-8
Is it possible to root the phone and still enable the updates? Are these the same updates as seen under Settings-> About Phone ->System Updates.
word of advice is once development really takes off for this phone it will be just like all the others in regards to ota updates. Never take ota updates as it might break root ability let the devs get the updates and explore them first they will almost alsways make a flashable zip of the updates later with any crap motorola or att might have slid in the update just wait and be patient
ok so how do I disable the OTA updates to prevent them from getting installed?
Also I haven't seen the individual app updates in a few days. They used to appear in the Notification area. Is this coz of rooting the phone?
(Still new to Android)
The phone will not auto install the OTA files. It will ask you to download to ask at a later time. If you download them, it will still ask to install or remind at a later time.
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Excuse my complete noobishness, but I have to know.
If I root, but keep the stock ROM (basically, I just want root to get MarketEnabler at this stage) will I still be able to get OTA updates from Google?
The way I understand it, the answer is yes, but I'd like some confirmation from someone who definitely knows more than me.
no.....no.....no.....
Why ? There is any limitation for unlocked devices ? I think problems with ota only for custom rom.
I think so long as your on stock rom you get updates despite su and root. However if it is a major update you will lose root.
Once you root, you won't WANT the OTA update because you will get it from the forums long before it hits your device from Google.
This is a common question asked but its really irrelevant. Just root, the instant the update is released everyone gets it long before Google pushes it to you. Sure you could load a stock ROM and sit there waiting for a week till it pushes meanwhile everyone else just manually grabs it
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
MANTI5 said:
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
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Follow steps one to three on the first post of this.. and that is it
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
Jackos said:
Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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If you are running the stock ROM you can just update OTA right? I'm not running a stock ROM so i dont have any OTA at all, but just curious...
I'm running stock rom, nothing changed except it's rooted. Are you saying I won't get any OTA updates from HTC? Would I get them if I took the phone in to a T-Mobile store, say when ICS is released or would it still not update because it's rooted?
MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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what video did you follow?
Not sure of it's exact location because I didn't bookmark it, but it was on youtube.
Anyone know the answer to my last question?
to find your answer boot into recovery on your phone, if you see it orange or blue with lots of options and on top it says CWM custom recovery, then no you will not receive OTA's, but to be honest thats ok, usually we root users get OTA leaks before its even released, expamle ICS some one is already working on ICS port so we will see ICS before even official release is even out
and if your rooted i found best way to remove bloat is to use titanium backup
back up the apps you want to remove in there and from the same app there is an option to uninstall it
Ok, got TB. Is there a list somwhere of apps that are safe to remove from the sensation? Also, when ICS is released, will putting it on my phone myself erase anything I currently have or not work at all if I start removing apps? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first smartphone.
Where is the file or the setting or etc, that triggers the P3113 to tell me it has an update and ask me if I want to update now or later?
I am rooted and from what I have read there is no way to update with CWM/Root.
I don't wanna flash the update with Odin, or CM 10 till i get back from a business trip in a few weeks (when we might have an OTA JB leak by then anyway).
So what is the best way to get rid of that annoying pop up?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't seen it, but then again I am sure there isn't a lot of people on here with this issue.
FlynnErik said:
Where is the file or the setting or etc, that triggers the P3113 to tell me it has an update and ask me if I want to update now or later?
I am rooted and from what I have read there is no way to update with CWM/Root.
I don't wanna flash the update with Odin, or CM 10 till i get back from a business trip in a few weeks (when we might have an OTA JB leak by then anyway).
So what is the best way to get rid of that annoying pop up?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't seen it, but then again I am sure there isn't a lot of people on here with this issue.
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Download Root Uninstaller: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=name.dohkoos.rootuninstaller&hl=en
Open Root Uninstaller and uninstall software update. If you don't want to uninstall it, then open Settings, go to Applications (or Application Management if you are on 4.0.4) then scroll down to Software update and tap on it. Then, hit clear data, and then hit disable.
FlynnErik said:
Where is the file or the setting or etc, that triggers the P3113 to tell me it has an update and ask me if I want to update now or later?
I am rooted and from what I have read there is no way to update with CWM/Root.
I don't wanna flash the update with Odin, or CM 10 till i get back from a business trip in a few weeks (when we might have an OTA JB leak by then anyway).
So what is the best way to get rid of that annoying pop up?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't seen it, but then again I am sure there isn't a lot of people on here with this issue.
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hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
No you dont need to be unrooted to update your android version.
You need to have the stock recovery and rom. The update isnt available for everyone yet
you will get a update notification just wait
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hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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You technically voided your warranty when you rooted. But no big deal.
You can download the update and sideload on your own, or wait for the OTA to come to you. If all you have is root, stock recovery and no system mods it will update on its own.
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Hi do not worry. Those posts really do not apply to you yet. You have a phone that is stock meaning, you bought it and using it. If you keep it like that you never have to worry about update. Google will automatically push the update to your phone by next week. Incidentally the phone is also a developer phone, so people usually play around with it. Root, custom roms, kernels etc. Now for these enthusiasts to get the update, they have to unroot, ,to stock just like your phone. After getting the update they will start messing with it again:laugh: this forum being the developers forum of the Internet is the reason why you are seeing all those posts.
Now you are sitting on a Ferrari phone, using it as a Honda. Some day in the future you will let it run at indy500
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Did you mean to ask "do you need to root to get the 4.4.1 OTA"?? If not, your question doesn't seem to add up....
You definitely do NOT need to root to get the OTA. You can wait for the update to be pushed out, or, if you are impatient, you can sideload using ADB or install from recovery.
If you are rooted, as the other folks explained, you may need to get back to stock before you can install 4.4.1
To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
I'm quite happy with everything stock and don't plan on doing any mods.
Also, I sideloaded 4.4.1, but would I have gotten the OTA with TWRP?
mmmmBACON said:
To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
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Yes, get the recovery.img from the factory image and: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img. That'll put the stock recovery back on your device
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thnks alot you guys!!
this really helped me out!
i know i am new to android right now and dont know the ins and outs of this os completely... i really liked a reply which said i am sitting on a ferrarri and using it like a honda..lol...i will run it like a veyron in some time but for now my car comes with a "L" sign and a speed limiter on it
thnks again you guys!
Just wondering when the update to 4.4 would come. It says its available but my device still hasn't gotten it. What's the right way to download the update without flashing. Just making sure my phone isn't messed up in a way that I cannot receive the update
rangerforces83 said:
Just wondering when the update to 4.4 would come. It says its available but my device still hasn't gotten it. What's the right way to download the update without flashing. Just making sure my phone isn't messed up in a way that I cannot receive the update
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the right way to get it without flashing is to wait patiently until it decides to go to your phone or constantly nag your carrier to give you the update or you will leave them for a better company instead of asking a question that has been asked a billion times and the post are all over the place but you can't take to the time to search for them and read