http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/ex...lash-refocuses-efforts-on-html5-updated/19226
Adobe has announced that they will cease development of Adobe Flash for mobile platforms to focus on HTML5.
I'm not sure how I feel about this...One of the advantages my android 2.2 handset always had over Iphone was the ability to view Flash content exactly as they appear on my PC, no app required. They appear to be continuing development of Adobe flash for desktop focusing on games but this also means video/audio streaming sites that use flash aren't going away anytime soon. It's nice that they are focusing on HTML5 but until it replaces Flash this means your next Android handset may not even have full Adobe Flash capabilities.
I guess we'll have to wait and see if this spells the eventual death of Flash altogether which wouldn't be a bad thing.
Phrack said:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/ex...lash-refocuses-efforts-on-html5-updated/19226
Adobe has announced that they will cease development of Adobe Flash for mobile platforms to focus on HTML5.
I'm not sure how I feel about this...One of the advantages my android 2.2 handset always had over Iphone was the ability to view Flash content exactly as they appear on my PC, no app required. They appear to be continuing development of Adobe flash for desktop focusing on games but this also means video/audio streaming sites that use flash aren't going away anytime soon. It's nice that they are focusing on HTML5 but until it replaces Flash this means your next Android handset may not even have full Adobe Flash capabilities.
I guess we'll have to wait and see if this spells the eventual death of Flash altogether which wouldn't be a bad thing.
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I wouldn't worry about this, as what's there now, will be as good as it gets for Flash.
Adobe is moving from Flash to HTML5 as a broad strategy shift, across all platforms. This will move Flash to legacy in short time.
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Urgent Flash 10.1 not being release by Adobe: Youtube effected already. Urgent
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/suppor...n_us&loc=en_us
This is the site you need to visit to reqest flash 10.1 for windows mobile. Sorry no email is avilable to do this direct with Adobe.
Please register at adobe first so you can contact support. We need as many people as possible to request flash 10.1 beta to be released for windows mobile.
This is a big issue as youtube and many other video websites won`t work without it on windows mobile. This effects all windows mobile phones not just Toshiba TG01.
Please take the time to do this. The more request they get the better! Please also tell them how it will effect your browsing pleasure and that you hold adobe products in high regard.
Suggested wording for your request:-
"One selling point of the TG01 was its ability to run the Flash 10.1.
I am requesting they release this flash 10.1beta. To request that you please release it even if it is unstable. I understand this effect all windows mobile devices and request its release. Without this flash update my browsing pleasure will suffer and my use of my device will fall.
Please show your support for windows mobile by realeasing this update to flash. I have always looked to Adobe with high regard and would be dissapointed if this Flash 10.1 is not
released. Especially as Youtube is already being effected because of the lack of this update"
Yours faithfully.
arnookie said:
Urgent Flash 10.1 not being release by Adobe: Youtube effected already. Urgent
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/suppor...n_us&loc=en_us
This is the site you need to visit to reqest flash 10.1 for windows mobile. Sorry no email is avilable to do this direct with Adobe.
Please register at adobe first so you can contact support. We need as many people as possible to request flash 10.1 beta to be released for windows mobile.
This is a big issue as youtube and many other video websites won`t work without it on windows mobile. This effects all windows mobile phones not just Toshiba TG01.
Please take the time to do this. The more request they get the better! Please also tell them how it will effect your browsing pleasure and that you hold adobe products in high regard.
Suggested wording for your request:-
"One selling point of the TG01 was its ability to run the Flash 10.1.
I am requesting they release this flash 10.1beta. To request that you please release it even if it is unstable. I understand this effect all windows mobile devices and request its release. Without this flash update my browsing pleasure will suffer and my use of my device will fall.
Please show your support for windows mobile by realeasing this update to flash. I have always looked to Adobe with high regard and would be dissapointed if this Flash 10.1 is not
released. Especially as Youtube is already being effected because of the lack of this update"
Yours faithfully.
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while I haven't tested YouTube with Flash Lite 3.1 (stick with a non-Flas player to play anthing back from YouTube) to see whether it indeed doesn't work any more, there're far better alternatives for YouTube. See my dedicated roundup at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387986
i can access youtube videos on opera mobile 10 with flash lite...
shu8i said:
i can access youtube videos on opera mobile 10 with flash lite...
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about 40% still work .. yes
and m.youtube.com , is about 80%
Here ya go, guys!! This is a pre-release, not available on the market yet!!!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0844TTNJ
If this is considered warez, I apologize. Just let me know and I'll remove it
Tested by myself with 2.2, works on x10 perfectly!!!
Quoted text from adobe.com:
Today we are happy to announce that Flash Player 10.2 will be available for download via Android Market on March 18th. Flash Player 10.2 is a production GA (General Availability) release for Android 2.2 (Froyo) and 2.3 (Gingerbread) devices which meet the Flash Player hardware system requirements. It is initially a beta release for Android 3.0 (Honeycomb) tablets which requires Google’s 3.0.1 system update.
We have been working very closely with Google to ensure tight integration between Flash Player 10.2 and new OS and browser capabilities in Android 3.0. The March 18th beta release of Flash Player 10.2 in conjunction with Google’s first system update to Android 3.0 (version 3.0.1) currently underway for the MOTOROLA XOOM™ will deliver the first phase of our work together. This will be followed by subsequent updates, which will complete the optimizations and result in a production GA release of Flash Player 10.2 for Android 3.0.
Some of the new capabilities of Flash Player 10.2 for Android include:
Hardware accelerated video presentation for H.264 (Android 3.0.1+ only)
Flash Player 10.2 leverages the Stage Video rendering pipeline to enable users of Android 3.0 tablets, like the MOTOROLA XOOM™, to enjoy smooth playback of high-definition Flash video content on the web. Users will experience reduced CPU usage and higher frame rates for existing H.264 video content.
Deeper integration with the Android browser rendering engine (Android 3.0.1+ only)
Deeper integration of Flash Player and the enhanced Android 3.0 browser delivers faster and better rendering of rich, interactive web content resulting in a browsing experience similar to the desktop.
Flash Player can now render content as part of the web page along with other components such as HTML, images and gif animation. As a result, users will experience:
Improved scrolling of web pages;
Uncompromised viewing of rich, immersive content in the way intended by the page designer, including support for instances where HTML and other web content is composited over Flash Player rendered content. Flash Player rendered content will continue to be placed in a separate window on top of HTML in the Android 2.2 and 2.3 browsers, as these browsers do not support the new Android 3.0 browser rendering model.
Enhanced performance for the latest smartphones and tablets
Experience performance improvements designed to take advantage of the current generation of multi-core, GPU-enabled processors to deliver Flash videos, games and other interactive Web content on the latest smartphones and tablets. For a list of upcoming Flash-enabled devices which show off the latest performance improvements, including the MOTOROLA ATRIX™ 4G, MOTOROLA XOOM™ and LG Optimus 2X, please click here.
Automatic soft keyboard support
Users of touch screen devices will enjoy a more optimized experience interacting with rich content that requires keyboard input. This feature simplifies the development of multiscreen applications that require keyboard input, making it easier for developers to optimize desktop applications for mobile devices. A new ActionScript API enables developers to automatically launch and display the soft keyboard.
In addition to its availability on Android Market, the production GA release of Flash Player 10.2 will also be available pre-installed on many upcoming tablets and smartphones or delivered as an over-the-air (OTA) update to existing devices in market.
To see which devices are certified to support Flash Player, please visit http://www.adobe.com/flashplatform/certified_devices/.
To learn more about Flash Player for mobile devices, please visit http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer.html.
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lightyear420 said:
Here ya go, guys!! This is a pre-release, not available on the market yet!!!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0844TTNJ
If this is considered warez, I apologize. Just let me know and I'll remove it
Tested by myself with 2.2, works on x10 perfectly!!!
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Oh boy! Oh boy! Can't wait to try this on my Epic 4g running the current Viper Rom.......Thanks for the post Will post my results later tonight after work.
Installed perfect for me, now to test and see if there is some performance gains
I can wait 4 days...good find anyway.
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Will it install onto SD or onto phone mem?
Installed. Thanks
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If adobe 10.1 was working great, imagine how well abode 10.2 is gonna be! thanks a lot, downloading now.
Already a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=990054
Anyone know of any websites using HTML5 to stream music? Pandora is going to update their website to HTML5 soon, but was just wondering if there are any good legal websites streaming using HTML5 for the time being.
something like this>>
http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/mobile/HTML5/Audio/Default.html
There is one MS used to demo HTML5 on IE9 - don't recall what it was, but since it wasn't in English, it was pretty much unusable to me. I got it to play something though, and it worked as promised.
But right now I am dissapointed with the lack of HTML5 content on the web. And also it looks like some sites have odd implementations of it. Vimeo HTML5 player, for example, does not work on WP, but does work on the desktop version of IE9. I think the problem is on Vimeo's end - checking for browsers, and not allowing HTML5 to work on browsers not explicitly supported by Vimeo.
The one which MS demoed is already linked in my OP, was just wondering if there were websites using that tech.
I just figured there would be plenty of html5 websites since the iOS devices so not support flash, but I guess flash still rules the web.
https://droptun.es/ has a html5 version of their service (you'll have to link your dropbox account, if you have one, with it, or create one)
Haven't tried it on mango yet but in theory you'll be able to listen to your music while multitasking.
Its no HTML5 support in: 7661.WP7_5_Trial.
Are your just going to test it on your pc ?
to answer you question found this site:
http://myousic.me/play/#playlist
Pyls said:
Its no HTML5 support in: 7661.WP7_5_Trial.
Are your just going to test it on your pc ?
to answer you question found this site:
http://myousic.me/play/#playlist
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Ehm there is HTML5 support, http://beat.no/ works pretty well, but don't think u can listen to full songs.
Saw some Swedish guy demo this site a way back on wmpoweruser.
Pyls said:
Its no HTML5 support in: 7661.WP7_5_Trial.
Are your just going to test it on your pc ?
to answer you question found this site:
http://myousic.me/play/#playlist
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IE9 Mobile on Mango beta supports HTML5 and IMO is better than even the desktop version of IE9 Try the Mobile IE9 test drive site, its amazing.
Pandora if you're a One subscriber all users within a couple weeks. Just pin it to your start screen and you're good to go!
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You can view youtube vids in your browser. Just enable html5 on youtube, works perfectly for me.
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jango on mango
try Jango.com .. its working in mango.. and im loving it
guys can you tell me a browser with flash player for lumia 800!
i want full of flash like puffin on android and iphone or skyfire!
anyone?thank you!
Not possible on Windows Phone 7.x devices (i.e. Lumia).
When Windows Phone 8 is released, with its new programming model, there is always the *possibility* that Adobe or a 3rd party might implement flash on the platform. Although my personal opinion is that its highly unlikely.
i know UC browser can paly video
On the way down
You could say that Flash is on the way down. A few days ago Adobe announced that there will be no Flash player for Android 4.1. They are much too busy to prepare for a post-Flash Internet, I would say.
So indeed it is unlikely that somebody will care enough to write a player for WP8.
I can't quite get whats the difference between the two.
Someone else may be able to give you a much more detailed explanation but I will try to make it simple. Adobe Flash is a proprietary plugin for browsers, this plugin does enable a lot of rich browser content. But at the same time because it is proprietary it hinders web development by somewhat limiting what you can do and just how you can do things with web browser, websites, and some applications.
HTML5 is not proprietary and is also something that is included in the native code of browsers, websites, and other applications. This means it is not a plugin so it can work more fluidly with whatever software it is being used in as well as being able to allow developers to have more control over their work. Also just as Adobe Flash, HTML5 encompasses a lot more than just playing video content.
If you have not already looked it up I suggest you take a minute to have a read at the two links below as well as doing further research of your on.
Adobe Flash
HTML5
Flash is a proprietary plugin from Adobe that implements various advances animation and video features. For a long time it's been really the only reasonably standard way to do this sort of sophisticated content on the web. It however has a long history of security problems and other quality problems.
HTML5 is a newer version of various standards that go into basic web pages. It adds certain advanced animation, content, styling, and scripting features that bring a regular browser without a plugin closer to the rendering capability of flash. However, it's not really 100% there as there's some key missing features.
Apple refused to support flash in iphone because they're assholes basically and now Adobe is abandoning mobile flash entirely. So HTML5 is going to be the future even though it's not really 100% ready yet.
html5 is coming with browser but adobe u should install on browser and flash make browser runing heavier and take more cpu usage but html5 its designed to be simple and avoid great effect on cpu usage, which is better to us as android users that many of us have cpu problem.
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html5 is coming with browser but adobe u should install on browser and flash make browser runing heavier and take more cpu usage but html5 its designed to be simple and avoid great effect on cpu usage, which is better to us as android users that many of us have cpu problem.
Sent from my HTC Sensation.
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readams said:
Flash is a proprietary plugin from Adobe that implements various advances animation and video features. For a long time it's been really the only reasonably standard way to do this sort of sophisticated content on the web. It however has a long history of security problems and other quality problems.
HTML5 is a newer version of various standards that go into basic web pages. It adds certain advanced animation, content, styling, and scripting features that bring a regular browser without a plugin closer to the rendering capability of flash. However, it's not really 100% there as there's some key missing features.
Apple refused to support flash in iphone because they're assholes basically and now Adobe is abandoning mobile flash entirely. So HTML5 is going to be the future even though it's not really 100% ready yet.
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T-Macgnolia said:
Someone else may be able to give you a much more detailed explanation but I will try to make it simple. Adobe Flash is a proprietary plugin for browsers, this plugin does enable a lot of rich browser content. But at the same time because it is proprietary it hinders web development by somewhat limiting what you can do and just how you can do things with web browser, websites, and some applications.
HTML5 is not proprietary and is also something that is included in the native code of browsers, websites, and other applications. This means it is not a plugin so it can work more fluidly with whatever software it is being used in as well as being able to allow developers to have more control over their work. Also just as Adobe Flash, HTML5 encompasses a lot more than just playing video content.
If you have not already looked it up I suggest you take a minute to have a read at the two links below as well as doing further research of your on.
Adobe Flash
HTML5
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Thanks for the responses. I did look into it but I still couldn't get what the difference so that was why I asked here. Now I understand. Last question, with HTML5, will we be able to view flash videos?
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Thanks for the responses. I did look into it but I still couldn't get what the difference so that was why I asked here. Now I understand. Last question, with HTML5, will we be able to view flash videos?
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You can't view "flash videos" but there are HTML5 videos. The problem with this is that there's no standard video codec which is implemented in all HTML5 browsers which has limited adoption of HTML5 video. Also, there are still some major missing elements like fullscreen support that are starting to trickle in. The Onion for example is using HTML5 video on its site, however.
HTML5 and Flash are two completely different things, HTML5 is markup language you are writing webpages in, Flash on the other hand is a Rich Internet Application you can "fancy/enhance" your webpage with (yet you still need HTML to implement it) but:
Theres no difference in either of these by video managing, Adobe (originaly Macromedia) Flash is ONE OF MANY ways how to embeed video for online streaming, due to its popularity it became kind of standard (even for RIA), in HTML5 W3C came with own - sort of embeeding - of video formats for online streaming with a <video> tag (eventhough the initial purpose was completely different), both these solutions have same goal, embeed a video online, HTML5 has one, lets call it advantage, its a worldwide standard for everybody (W3C compliant), unlike Flash (RichInternetApplication), furthermore, some (we all know which) browser/s, are incompatible with it. So HTML5 embeeding and Flash embeeding is basically the same, Flash embeeds videos using action/lua scripts, whereas HTML5 embeeds videos using HTML tag, both of these video embeeding styles will die under the wheels of crossbrowse supported jQuery sooner or later anyway.
Analogy: Its like comparing Mercedes and Audi, they have different engines, but both have same purpose, to transport people from place A to place B, that exactly goes for Flash vs HTML5 video thing.
so far supported in HTML5 are H264 (MP4 format), WebM (VP8 format), OGG (Vorbis) with either ogg or aac audio