[Q] Unroot Desire S + S-ON again? - HTC Desire S

I have not yet rooted my Desire S and was wondering before i root it if it is possible to unroot it and get S-OFF back to S-ON and my desire back to the new car smell of the desire? I'm still in high school not that experienced yet(detail please).

slugger7 said:
I have not yet rooted my Desire S and was wondering before i root it if it is possible to unroot it and get S-OFF back to S-ON and my desire back to the new car smell of the desire? I'm still in high school not that experienced yet(detail please).
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yes you can. with a little bit of research, it should have already pointed you on how to.

Ok so if i root it i go change the host file to block ads and unroot it and swich it to S-ON will the changes i've made stick and the ads be blocked as this is the only reason i want to root my phone for now?

Nope, it won't work like that. If you want to go back to S-ON and unrooted after S-OFF you would have to flash an official update from HTC, which would basically mean losing all your data, so if you just want to block ads, that's not a way to do it. However, there are hundreds of other reasons why you would want to unlock your phone, besides blocking ads. A few to mention are overclocking, backing up all your apps, using custom ROMs, small tweaks and hacks to improve performance, hell, even changing your boot animation. You'll have absolute(almost) control over your Android experience.
There are a lot of well written guides in the development section that will get you well on your way. Just have a read through the index thread. Once you get started, a whole world of opportunies opens up for you

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What he says.

I Previousely had an Xperia X10 but that got stolen. I rooted that and played with the boot logo and a bit with the overclocking but it did not make that big diffrence (might just not used the right tools). Compared to the standard ROM of the Desire S to lets say cayanogen mod: How reliable is it and will my htc sense still be working? My one big concern is the warranty.
Oh and is there stock ROM's for a South African network or will the UK one work for South Africa?

slugger7 said:
I Previousely had an Xperia X10 but that got stolen. I rooted that and played with the boot logo and a bit with the overclocking but it did not make that big diffrence (might just not used the right tools). Compared to the standard ROM of the Desire S to lets say cayanogen mod: How reliable is it and will my htc sense still be working? My one big concern is the warranty.
Oh and is there stock ROM's for a South African network or will the UK one work for South Africa?
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Ask that question on the CyanogenMod thread as I believe who posts there are their users. They should be able to answer you much more accurately.
Also, I believe CyanogenMod does not use Sense. (correct me if I'm wrong, i don't use that rom)
Once you've change something (hacking, rooting, unlocking, s-off), your warranty goes bye-bye. Again, a lot of threads out here already that topic.
You should have checked the Desire S Shipped ROM Collections thread. There is a high chance that the roms there are the ONLY ones available. But there might be still out there. Your answer should be there.

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[Q] Root now or wait for Gingerbread?

Hey all,
I've been reading up on the forums, trying to figure out the best option to root my Inspire 4G and making sure there is a proven unroot method.
I guess my biggest question is whether I should root now or wait for the official Gingerbread update to come out and root then?? Any input about this question would be greatly appreciated along with suggestions to BEST root/unroot options to keep the phone as close to stock as possible yet have the ability to get rid of these bloated programs.
Anyway, love the site!
We really have no idea if/when AT&T will even release Gingerbread for this phone, so if you might have to root just to get it and install one of the Desire HD releases.
Rooting is not all that hard, the key is making the goldcard correctly. After that you can either do attn1's hack kit or Bubby's gui based method. After that install one of the stock rooted ROMS from the dev section.
cab121783 said:
Hey all,
I've been reading up on the forums, trying to figure out the best option to root my Inspire 4G and making sure there is a proven unroot method.
I guess my biggest question is whether I should root now or wait for the official Gingerbread update to come out and root then?? Any input about this question would be greatly appreciated along with suggestions to BEST root/unroot options to keep the phone as close to stock as possible yet have the ability to get rid of these bloated programs.
Anyway, love the site!
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I guess there are questions as to what your actual goal is. Do you need to install non-market applications, do you need to really remove the stock AT&T additions? I am not sure I would call the AT&T additions bloated, they serve a purpose in a way most people would rather have served by other programs and therefore bloat the ROM but they are fairly well behaved and aren't that big.
If you check the development section there are rooted stock ROMs available. This will keep everything very close to the original HTC ROM with much of the AT&T extras removed. The rooting process is fairly straight forward if not a bit painful at times, with the hardest part being the process of finding an SD card that will work as a Gold Card. I rooted my phone as I needed some non-market applications from my company that can not be side loaded properly as part of their installation requires accepting a system change and they will not work without this confirmation.
As to Gingerbread coming to this phone, if the amount of time it took the Aria to get Froyo updates is any indication, don't wait for the official release. AT&T drags its feet on updates to phones after they get potential updates from the vendors. This is because they claim to be doing heavy testing internally to make sure the update process is smooth. Not sure I buy that but it does take a long time between versions, so if you are eager for some change on your phone root it now because your wait for an AT&T release will be long.
Basically, I want to keep the door open to do any customization I want as I learn what this OS and phone is capable of.
I'm an avid tinkerer with PCs and the Windows OS and I enjoy not being restricted to one set way to do things. However, I like the setup this phone has originally. I just don't like apps such ad AT&T Familymap, Navigator, Code Scanner, the asphalt game, and the worthless blockbuster app. They are the devil.
Seriously though, I'm all about custom goodies. But I also need a proven way if the phone goes haywire or gets damaged that I can restore to factory and send it in since I have insurance on the Inspire.
Hope this helps fill in the blanks as far as questions to how I'm going to use it. Appreciate the answers so far so please keep them coming!
Oh and I read some rumor that gingerbread was coming in May or June. Good point though on carriers dragging their feet. More than likely going to root now.
Rooting is probably going to be the same no matter what so you may as well do it. As for gingerbread you can get that now with CM7 RC2 is pretty good. If you font mind no htc sense its great and getting better. You can always try it and then change.
Sent from my Inspire "4G" using Tapatalk Pro.
Regarding your questions about going back to stock after obtaining root/s-off, it is a very simple process. As for rooting, the hack kit has a very detailed set of instructions.
After reading what you are looking to do, I would suggest moving to one of the rooted stock roms and playing with that. Then flash one of the gingerbread roms whenever you want to check them out. Of course, do a nandroid to save time going back to your previous setup.
You want to go ahead and root dont wait for at&t
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
I rooted my phone with bubby's rooting program and have downloaded Core Droid Gingerbread version 4 and it is working great, the extra effects that they have added make it all that much more fun to have. I would not wait for AT&T at all.
Waiting for AT&T is like going through a White Castles drive-thru. You only do it if you have a great deal of time to waste.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.

What has been your experience with rooting your Sensation?

I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
I rooted my sensation just Cos I did the same to my old x10 mini, I found rooting it was easy following the guide on here and flashing new roms is easy too, all I can suggest is that you read the instructions, try different roms to see which one works for you and don't forget that rooting voids your warranty
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
When flashing custom roms are you losing all installed apps each time and finding you need to restore via titanium? I ask because I've seen threads say you do and don't lose your installed apps and data.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk
johnny0313x said:
I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
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Heyya,
I'm pretty new here and my experience with android devices was 0 up to three weeks ago when i decided to buy the sensation. I then stumbled upon XDA dev forum and now i'm hooked .
I decided to root and flash a custom rom three days after getting the phone... as far as eye candy goes Sense is brilliant but the functionality is 0.
The whole process of installing clockwork, perm rooting and flashing a custom rom took exactly twenty minutes and was no hassle at all.
At the moment i run P3d Neon-No Sense and the phone is a whole lot better. Battery life is double, RAM consumption is 1/2 and overall the performance is great.
So... my advice... root and flash away!
Thanks jeryko that's the kinda thing I was looking to hear. The sensations touch screen is the only reason I'm Leary about voiding the warrenty with rooting. If you unroot the device can they still tell?
I love sense I think it integrates things nicely and visually (with the exception of a few minor things) and gives a way more polished premium feel to devices. However as stated above it does bog down the phone a bit...even with the dual core. HTC really should have added 1gb of ram I think. Overall though my phones not slow just sometimes a little stutter here and there.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
ive rooted my sensation, well i at least i did / was rooted before the update came out. to be honest i haven't seen any reason to reroot. i still have a unlocked boot loader but the urge to root and flash roms isnt really there for me yet. this is probably because i am happy with sense 3.0 and the phone doesnt lag for me at all after the latest update. the only real thing that will probably get me to root again is when a good aosp rom releases or CM7. i really miss having then bluetooth capabilities of a stock aosp rom
No problem. Well... the sensation has it's drawbacks but price/quality it's definitely worth the money.
About the warranty issue... can't really tell you... I've read on the forum that you can Switch back to stock rom and kernel and S-ON again but the procedure (for S-ON) is a bit risky and frankly i have no clue if after you go through all that there's any way of telling that the phone has been tampered with... you'll have to ask the older and wiser folks around here for a knowledgeable answer.
Root it, stop delaying the inevitable.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
johnny0313x said:
occasional glitchy things that happen with it
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And that's why I don't regret going s-off and flashing custom ROMs. Root just comes with the territory.
Funny thing, I went custom on my Sensation within the first week while I left my wife's stock. Fast forward three weeks later, I was pretty satisfied with the speed and stability on my phone. I pick up my wife's phone and unlock it to surf the net. First thing that happens? Random restart and back to the HTC splash screen. Really?? I'd totally forgotten about the random restarts and choppy home screen scrolling. Ended up s-offing that thing and flashing a custom ROM that same night. She hasn't complained about her phone since.
I'm so tempted....you guys are evil lol Seriously though the only thing holding me back is the warrenty being voided. I didn't care so much with my G2(that thing was the most reliable phone ever) but the sensation is still new and I'm skeptical about how long the hardware will keep up and all. My biggest complaint would be the volume on some things ...everything else works great though except an occasional lack of response until I lock and unlock the phone...which is rare.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
EddyOS said:
The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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Agreed....
I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I could and started loading custom ROMs. I've been running the P3D ROM (Sense version) for a few weeks now, and it's doubled my battery life plus it's faster. My brother has his Sensation still S-ON stock (latest OTA update) and we compared it side by side and we both agreed mine is noticeably faster. I also like the blue neon theme with that ROM.
Even that particular ROM aside, I've had generally better battery life with anything other than the stock ROM. That alone is enough reason to do it IMO.
Link to P3D ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Ok I know that I am a noob to rooting and installing roms. Currently I am on my second one Android Revolution HD™ 3.0.3. Rooting it was the best thing I've done. i wish I would have gotten the balls to root years ago!
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk
I am very happy with my rooted Sensation. My previous phone was a rooted Nexus One. I can say that rooting is a great way of customizing your phone to your liking.
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Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk
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Titanium batch, best app purchase for the crack flasher. I timed myself, 30 mins tops to go from one rom to another
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G
+1 for Titanium batch! A must for all heavy Flashers
We should have root access out of the box. Too much fun stuff, but impossible to find a ROM perfect for you. Your going to tweak something eventually
just got my sensation 4g still in box..first thing on to do list is "root it and boot it"
currently running HTC HD2 with ndt miui rom...love it but got to have that 4g

[Q] Why should i root?

I loved rooting my g1 and my mytouch slide 3g but i'm not sure if it's worth it with the sensation. i think the phone is great with the stock software and since it's already on 2.3.4, what are the benefits? it even has screen shot built in :/
please help!
The only thing that has me ever so slightly interested in rooting, is the Amaze camera mod, however I'm more inclined to sit tight and wait for an official update.
Having a Recovery based Backup through CWM and being able to backup with Titanium might be useful.
Also useful if you like removing bloatware.
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Mind you the phone works well as standard, so YMMV.
I like to root to have the newest updates.
In Swiss we had the problem that many branded Sensations had call problems (call aborted after one minute). A friend of mine had this problem, I with my rooted sensation not. So I rooted her device and flashed the newest Radio rom and the problem was gone...
You can also use the leaked Sense 3.5 Roms with a rooted phone ;-)
Look through all the threads in the development section and see all the things which you WONT get if you stay unrooted, all the things which you will miss out on, rooting gives you the ability to use programs which need lower level access than others, simply put you are missing out on a lot of features if you do not root, but hey no one has a gun to your head so make up your own mind, personally i find the whole rooting process worthwhile so i can flash custom roms and make my phone a better device to use.
The sensation on stock is a slow and underpar phone which could have been great, let down only by rushed development and poor handling of the code, if you flash a rom cooked up by one of XDA's dev's then you will see a huge difference in terms of performance and looks, there simply is no comparison.
Not rooted is like a computer but you are the user. While the rooted phone it acts like you are the admin you can do whatever you want to your precious phone.
Sent from my HTC Sensation with Beats
I agree with all above.
I've rooted every android phone i've ever had, starting from the original desire.
It enables you to tinker with, and improve, on so many things. I also had incredible heat with my sensation on stock. I rooted it and it stopped.
I wouldn't even ponder the thought of keeping an android phone stock anymore.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e with Beats Audio using xda premium
But again if you need to ask...you No need to root
Hi my name is DloBrown and Im A nightly addict who've been sober for too long!!!

Downgrade HTC Sense to Sense 2.3

Hi all,
I recently updated my 'unrooted' HTC Desire S from HTC Sense 2.3 to Sense 3.0. Ever since then the phone has been acting up and become slower in general. Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to Sense 2.3 without rooting as I am really skeptical about it, and please nobody say "oh it's fine it's safe" because nothing anyone, or anything, can say to persuade me. (No disrespect)
I have been to countless shopfronts that might have the slightest thing to do with mobile phones and on many occasions I have gotten the answer people have successfully done this in the past. I, and many other people as I have seen from other forums really want to downgrade without rooting.
If anyone can give me an answer, any help, or even a point in the right direction that would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Ronald
It might be worth waiting for sence 4.0 as it surpose to be a lighter version of sence so should run better. Im on 3.0 too and find it a bit sluggish at times but there should be an update soon.
Hi Ronald,
it is possible with a temporary root, that is not modifying your device. Look for a downgrade guide in the index.
You need zegrush exploit to gain temp root in order to change the main version (to "trick" the device that you are updating it while actually downgrading), then use the oldest RUU available for your brand/region. This process will leave no trace that the device was ever manipulated. Keep in mind that this process will also delete all your data and installed apps.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC Desire S
Take ammibudha's advice. Your phone will be just like from the box, like 1 year or so ago, when you bought it. Don't be affraid, you still will be able to receive OTA.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
Were the weather sounds only.introduced in 3.0?
scorpionatthepc said:
Were the weather sounds only.introduced in 3.0?
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It was more than an year ago when I got the device (it was my first Android) but I remember that I was impressed by the weather animations and I think that the sound was present too. But I am not completely sure about this.
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Uhmm, i think they didn't.
If I remember correctly, i had to disable weather sounds in weather app with the very original ROM. It was like 1 year ago, when i bought my phone. Weather widget was making that funny weather soudns.
But im unsure about clock with weather.
I found that sense 2.1 had smoother scrolling between home screens because it didn't have that stupid 3d carousel effect. I also found that the weather sounds were better quality than sense 3.0 ones. the update to 2.3.5 improved the smoothness and scrolling within apps. I found that everything apart from the scrolling between home screens is smoother on sense 3 I still don't think it's worth going back to sense 2.1 though
+1
Don't like that stupid rotating cube effect.
I build software for downgrad Sense and HBOOT.
I need 10 posts for publish...
Thanks for the advice
scorpionatthepc said:
It might be worth waiting for sence 4.0 as it surpose to be a lighter version of sence so should run better. Im on 3.0 too and find it a bit sluggish at times but there should be an update soon.
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Hi, thanks for the advice but I'm pretty sure that htc have stopped releasing updates for the desire s aside from some minor bug fixes but not OS changes. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks again,
Ronald
Temporary Root
amidabuddha said:
Hi Ronald,
it is possible with a temporary root, that is not modifying your device. Look for a downgrade guide in the index.
You need zegrush exploit to gain temp root in order to change the main version (to "trick" the device that you are updating it while actually downgrading), then use the oldest RUU available for your brand/region. This process will leave no trace that the device was ever manipulated. Keep in mind that this process will also delete all your data and installed apps.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC Desire S
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Thank you so much for such a quick reply. If possible could you please send me a guide to this temporary root. Also could you tell me what differences this root has from the conventional root and does it have any devastating risks like normal rooting such as bricking one's phone, because if that's the case I would have to consider paying $100 or so for a 3rd party phone repair specialist to do the job, that way if anything goes wrong their liable and not some guy that failed to root his phone [me].
Regards
Ronald
The major difference between this root and conventional is that this one is temporary. Once you've rebooted, you're no longer rooted. You could easyly do it yourself, check the INDEX and search for "downgrade hboot without using htcdev unlock". Considering your mainversion (2.10 or higher) you should use zergrush for 2.10.xxx or tacoroot if > 2.10.xxx.
RonaldLeeLongTing said:
Hi, thanks for the advice but I'm pretty sure that htc have stopped releasing updates for the desire s aside from some minor bug fixes but not OS changes. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks again,
Ronald
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Theres suppose to be an ICS update this month which includes the new lighter version of htc sence.
custom roms are the best
using blindbean, waiting for bluetooth to get going

[Q] More Education

Hi,
Yes, I'm a noob but I'm a smart noob. I refuse to just "jump" in without having enough knowledge about what is necessary to properly modify my phone (AT&T HOX). I have looked up terms I was unfamiliar with etc and sat and waited patiently reading other people's issues. I like many come from Apple (thankfully I switched away) and jailbreaking was about as easy as it got. So here goes.....
1. I am really most interested (at the time being) in getting rid of the ridiculous apps these phones come plugged up with.
2. I already think the phone is fast (light years faster than any iPhone I owned), so what are some of your (members) opinions on WHY you want to flash a custom rom?
3. Do you have to put a new rom in or once it's rooted can I simply have it "stock" and have the freedom to delete apps that I don't want on the phone?
If I've offended anyone here I apologize. Searching for answers on the Internet sometimes is a joke. I did find this tool in the developer's section and I know I'd start here (already downloaded and looked it over) [TOOL] HTC One X (Evita) All-In-One Toolkit V1.1 [10-28-12] [PERM ROOT][Noob-Proof]
but I feel there is a bit more that I'm missing.
I don't want my hand held but rather to allay any fears of turning my phone into a relic, rather than a useful device. I'm about to graduate with a computer support degree, so some of this real heavy duty stuff isn't exactly taught to us students.
I'd appreciate any advice and help from you all and thanks for having a source filled with so many helpful individuals and information
Thanks in advance,
Jon
This is where you should start (my index thread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
1) Rooting will enable you to uninstall bloatware.
2) Reasons for flashing custom ROMs are many. Yes, the phone is very fast. But believe it or not, there are some that want to squeeze even more performance out of the device. Custom ROMs will often include tweaks to improve speed, but also memory management (multi-tasking). Some people like the vanilla (no Sense) look of AOSP ROMs. And also AOSP based ROMs feel more fluid in the launcher, as well as some apps run faster. Custom ROMs have some cool features that don't exist on stock: Extended Quick Settings, Advanced Power Menu, Paranoid Android settings, theming support and much more.
3) You can just unlock the bootloader and root without flashing a custom ROM. If you aren't too familiar with flashing custom ROMs, this may in fact be a good place to start. Become familiar with what root gives you, before flashing ROMs.
The all-in-one tool you mentioned is correct if your phone is on the 2.20 firmware. If it happens to be an earlier firmware, use the corresponding root method as indicated in my index.
2. It's like buying a new Dell or HP Laptop. It comes with tons of random crap pre-installed that you don't need. Sure, the computer might already be "fast", but you can always make it faster by uninstalling said apps. However, there are usually tons of them, and they're deeply embedded into the OS. Even if you go into add or remove programs and uninstall all of the apps that they have given you, there's usually still random crap installed... You might want to start fresh - I always do. So, when I buy a laptop the first thing I do is install windows manually and download the newest and updated drivers. Now the machine is fast. :good:
This is the same principle for your phone. This is why people want to install a custom ROM (like CleanROM) that doesn't include any of the carrier crap and is just a fresh, base install.
3. You could, if you really, really wanted keep the AT&T stock ROM on there... but there is no reason to. If you installed something like CleanROM it is already optimized, and you can select what stock carrier apps you want included during the installation. The defaults will leave you almost perfect though... This could be thought of as doing a fresh windows install to remove all that crap they embedded deep into the OS. There are no flashy lights, it is just a base ROM that's optimized for speed, performance, and stability.
So.. there is no reason to use a stock ROM vs CleanROM.
On stock vs. ROM:
I am stock/rooted on my Nexus 7 because it's already vanilla Android, and I haven't seen any need to soup it up.
Stock Sense, on the other hand, has a lot of annoying elements that HTC built into it for various reasons: patent disputes, branding, stability, etc. Most or all of this can and should be removed. One example: You may be used to, in iOS, clicking on links and having apps open up. Stock sense won't do this because Apple sued HTC over it. Removing this limitation is easy. Another is the gimped multitasking that HTC set up to prioritize Sense over everything else. And since Sense is still bloated, this greatly limits multitasking. For the most part, CleanROM is Sense with all this unnecessary crap removed.
I was where you are back in May when I got this thing, and I'm happy as a clam on CleanROM.
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So.. there is no reason to use a stock ROM vs CleanROM.
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I've actually bounced around from CleanROM, ViperXL and other custom ROMs, as well as stock rooted ROMs. I've spent a good amount of time on Asian and Euro stock ROMs, with bloat frozen (in Titanium, not even removed), and the difference in performance (speed) between these and custom ROMs is negligible, if any. Maybe memory management is better on the custom ROMs, but its never been as much of a peeve to me, as others here.
While its true that the AT&T stock ROM has lots of bloat, and some things stupidly removed (FM radio, flashlight, WiFi tethering), but its really not bad. And the stock ROMs from Asia and Europe are quite good.
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One example: You may be used to, in iOS, clicking on links and having apps open up. Stock sense won't do this because Apple sued HTC over it.
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Just AT&T stock has the HTCLinkify crap. Links work fine on stock ROMs for any other carrier, AFAIK.
It appears I should simply unlock and root. I like how some are saying do that too "get acquainted" with the process and the feel of moding. I believe that is what I'd like to do first.
So in the tool for 2.20 firmware, twrp is in the data file already from the download? I had to go their site and read about what it was. I just don't want to start off on the wrong foot.
You've all been nice to me, even though I'm a flaming noob to unlocking/rooting. I figure to prevent myself from being stupid later, I should be smart now. Hahaha.
I greatly appreciate all the insight and advice so far.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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IAnd the stock ROMs from Asia and Europe are quite good.
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Which is probably why Scott has based CleanROM off them.
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Which is probably why Scott has based CleanROM off them.
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CleanROM is still on 2.29. There have been a lot of firmware versions since then. Germany and Asia are on 2.4x.
2.29 wasn't bad. But its basically the same as 2.20 stock, just without AT&T's meddling. I wish scrosler would use a newer base (as Turge and Xs have). But it seems his time is divided nowadays.
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CleanROM is still on 2.29. There have been a lot of firmware versions since then. Germany and Asia are on 2.4x.
2.29 wasn't bad. But its basically the same as 2.20 stock, just without AT&T's meddling. I wish scrosler would use a newer base (as Turge and Xs have). But it seems his time is divided nowadays.
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He's stated that he's waiting for JB. But yeah, he's developing for about six devices now. We take what we can get.
ToxicWaste said:
It appears I should simply unlock and root. I like how some are saying do that too "get acquainted" with the process and the feel of moding. I believe that is what I'd like to do first.
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Its really up to you in the end. There is no right or wrong answer to "should I flash a custom ROM or not".
I personally spent some time stock rooted on my first Android device (Desire Z) before I became comfortable with what features I wanted in a ROM. So that's probably why I'm recommending to do the same.
The suggestion by others to try CleanROM is certainly not a bad idea, either. As mentioned, its mostly stock, but cleaned up. My point is simply, don't go flashing ROMs just because people tell you "you just gotta do it man". And flashing ROM is not for everyone, either. If you do it, you should do it because it fits your needs and wants. And it sounds like you need some time to decide what those needs and wants actually are.
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Its really up to you in the end. There is no right or wrong answer to "should I flash a custom ROM or not".
I personally spent some time stock rooted on my first Android device (Desire Z) before I became comfortable with what features I wanted in a ROM. So that's probably why I'm recommending to do the same.
The suggestion by others to try CleanROM is certainly not a bad idea, either. As mentioned, its mostly stock, but cleaned up. My point is simply, don't go flashing ROMs just because people tell you "you just gotta do it man". And flashing ROM is not for everyone, either. If you do it, you should do it because it fits your needs and wants. And it sounds like you need some time to decide what those needs and wants actually are.
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OK. I got the noob proof tool but I'm a bit confused on TWRP. I'm just confused exactly on what my first step should be and if the noob proof tool contains all the things I need. Again, sorry for sounding like a dimwit (now I do) but I also watched the video Hasoon2000 posted, just to give me an idea of what to do.
1. Do I being by shutting phone off and holding power button/low volume button first? (DFU mode for iPhone I remember) and then clicking step one?
I also joined HTCdev since I saw you need a token. Could this be explained a bit more?
Sorry guys for sounding so stupid but I'd really like to do it the right way and learn more and more about this (like I did with jailbreaking).
I appreciate all the advice
ToxicWaste said:
OK. I got the noob proof tool but I'm a bit confused on TWRP. I'm just confused exactly on what my first step should be and if the noob proof tool contains all the things I need. Again, sorry for sounding like a dimwit (now I do) but I also watched the video Hasoon2000 posted, just to give me an idea of what to do.
1. Do I being by shutting phone off and holding power button/low volume button first? (DFU mode for iPhone I remember) and then clicking step one?
I also joined HTCdev since I saw you need a token. Could this be explained a bit more?
Sorry guys for sounding so stupid but I'd really like to do it the right way and learn more and more about this (like I did with jailbreaking).
I appreciate all the advice
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I was in the same boat as you about a week ago when I first got my HOX. I lurked and lurked and read myself to death until I finally got to where I am now (with CleanROM). Almost bricked my phone because of my haste to root and unlock but what you are doing is good, taking care of the necessary steps. It seems like you haven't unlocked your bootloader? If not look at this thread, it has all the steps you need to unlock the bootloader as the 2.20 firmware we have requires a special method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038
inksoldier said:
I was in the same boat as you about a week ago when I first got my HOX. I lurked and lurked and read myself to death until I finally got to where I am now (with CleanROM). Almost bricked my phone because of my haste to root and unlock but what you are doing is good, taking care of the necessary steps. It seems like you haven't unlocked your bootloader? If not look at this thread, it has all the steps you need to unlock the bootloader as the 2.20 firmware we have requires a special method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038
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I actually agree with what you said about my OP. I jailbroke my iPhones with ease but coming here to Android was a complete night and day difference. It's clearly not the same at all. This is more difficult by far. But after looking at tons of threads, asking questions and assuring myself I can do it, I unlocked and rooted a few days ago. Went pretty much without a hiccup. For now I'm staying stock rooted and exploring the phone. I'm already itching for a Rom but that can wait.
I do feel bad for some people that post here without searching for threads pertaining to rooting but I think it's in how you ask and come off here.
Did you use the all in one toolkit? Did you use it to flash your Rom as well?
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I'd say I spent 1-2 hours a day for a week reading these forums before I rooted. And went perfect when I did. Haven't had a glitch or a hiccup yet
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area51avenger said:
I'd say I spent 1-2 hours a day for a week reading these forums before I rooted. And went perfect when I did. Haven't had a glitch or a hiccup yet
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Did you flash a rom or are you still stock rooted?
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ToxicWaste said:
Did you flash a rom or are you still stock rooted?
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Check sig lines. Most regulars list what they're running there.
iElvis said:
Check sig lines. Most regulars list what they're running there.
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Not on the app. But I'm running viperxl. I got this phone over the s3 because I like sense.
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iElvis said:
Check sig lines. Most regulars list what they're running there.
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Ya I didn't see it listed on his xda app. Haha
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area51avenger said:
Not on the app.
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Derp. I need to read sig lines too.
If I install a custom ROM would I lose beatsaudio?

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