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Hi,
So.. Reading all these posts about this phone Im already contemplating returning it even though it hasnt arrived yet.
The main reason is the LCD bleeding mentioned by everyone. All the other battery inconsistencies, reboots, shutting down, wifi, whatever are all software and will be updated and fixed after all this is a new phone and as early adopters its part of the risk. BUT..... The LCD is a hardware issue, they purchased defective LCD screens and now they are going to have to sell all the units already manufactured before they make a batch with better LCDs.
Therefore, If I put so much money down on a phone, I dont mind the software bugs which can be fixed, I do mind hardware problems.
That being said I havent even received my phone yet but it does seem like returning it and waiting for the sensation would be a safer bet dont u think?
johnnyp500 said:
Hi,
So.. Reading all these posts about this phone Im already contemplating returning it even though it hasnt arrived yet.
The main reason is the LCD bleeding mentioned by everyone. All the other battery inconsistencies, reboots, shutting down, wifi, whatever are all software and will be updated and fixed after all this is a new phone and as early adopters its part of the risk. BUT..... The LCD is a hardware issue, they purchased defective LCD screens and now they are going to have to sell all the units already manufactured before they make a batch with better LCDs.
Therefore, If I put so much money down on a phone, I dont mind the software bugs which can be fixed, I do mind hardware problems.
That being said I havent even received my phone yet but it does seem like returning it and waiting for the sensation would be a safer bet dont u think?
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if your into rooting and customizing the sensation might have a locked bootloader. also your phone might not have those issues. you could be sending back a perfect or close to perfect device. this is the first batch so you have to expect the worst. you can always return if you have issues.
This is going to be my first android phone so what is rooting and locked bootloader?
johnnyp500 said:
This is going to be my first android phone so what is rooting and locked bootloader?
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oh okay. rooting is like jailbreaking a iphone. it opens your phone up to bigger and better things. a bootloader is basically security. without being able to unlock that you wont be able to use custom roms, and tweaks to make the phone better than what it is.
When do we know the second batch of phones hit the stores?
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When do we know the second batch of phones hit the stores?
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I would love to know that too since i returned mine a couple days ago and am waiting to get another one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062748 This poster said they received their phone and it was manufactured 4/29/11 and have not had a single bad issue thus far and everything is working better than before. Mine have been manufactured in early April, so perhaps this is an indication of a fixed batch of sorts.
See my thread of love thread. Manufacturer date of 4/6.
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IMO this phone rocks... As suggested by @ScooterG check out his thread about "thread of love". And another thing sometimes internet and blogs hipe things. Most of the ppl use their phones for 2-3 yrs and they see no problems in it. I know some ppl who still do not know what is FLASH and why some websites do not work with iPhone?? But only advice i would give you is, don ever trust everything you read. Try it yourself... Once you get the phone check things out like battery, reboot issue, freezing issue, lcd bleeding. If you think that ur phone is not good enough, return it.
One more thing i wanna tell you is, about LCD bleeding i agree that some ppl have really bad issues, but as far as the regular use is concerned minor lcd bleeding is unnoticeable. PPL check lcd bleeding by going in the dark room and opening black wallpapers or some app on their phones, now tell me one thing are you ever going to keep looking at black screen on your phone??? NO. You are going to watch videos, play games and do regular stuff. So use your phone like you are going to use for daily use and see if you encounter any problems.
About the Sensation and Galaxy s II, I loved both the phones, but then I realised that I want to root my phones and install custom ROMs on it. I don't think any of these 2 phones will be as easy to root and install custom ROMs on them as G2X. On top of that updates come fast for stock android phones for sure...
This is all my point of view. Read and think. Decide on your own.
I read all the good, bad, and ugly here before buying my G2x (replaced my beloved Nokia N900). Oddly, I had just the opposite reaction than you did. All the chatter here gave me a huge amount of confidence that whatever I didn't like about the G2x -- I could change with a little root magic and some apps.
And so I did. I'm very pleased.
I was a religious crackberry user(used iphone 1st gen and 3g too), then switched to a hd2(first unofficial android phone running gingerbread), then g2 now with the g2x. Be honest with you, the lcd bleeding is not noticable. I'm very happy with it so far.
The LCD bleeding is pretty minor. You really have to be in a completely black room with the screen showing black to notice it.
There are some extreme cases but I think they are rare, even for here.
I suspect the battery issues are a result of what people are installing or doing on their phone. From what I've read, "I've exchanged it 5 times and they all have battery issues"... tells me they are installing an app that eats battery or they are leaving games running in the background or something.
We do know the battery driver is wonky but the developers are working on a fix.
My phone lasts from 8am-midnight on my normal usage which consists of:
Several phones calls, frequently texting, playing WordFeud and Kingdoms Live (both online games) several times throughout the day, Push Exchange email (I get like 80-100 emails a day), I usually look up my horoscope once a day, I also have Push Gmail emails going, and Twitter, Facebook, and a weather widget that updates every 15minutes.
I also use google maps + gps, Google Voice Search, etc. periodically throughout the day also.
That's a ****load of usage ^ I would love to know how your getting that. I'm texting and idling my phone and I don't even get my phone to have that much usage
I have no idea what to do. I have followed all the experts advice regarding battery life and it has improved, but it is not even close to my HD2. I was really hoping one of the genius devs would have reworked the battery drivers by now. I say that because I have seen them work miracles before.
I use my phone for business and getting emails in a timely matter is also an issue.
So should I hang in and hope Gingerbread or Ice cream fixes the issues or are there deeper problems with this phone?
I am still strongly considering the Sensation. I am not concerned with the locked boot loader because I am a member of XDA and they always figure those things out. Kinda miss the larger screen and build quality of HTC.
Anyone else on the fence about this phone?
I dont have any issues at all with my G2X, but I just went on HTCs website, and looked up the Sensation... Wow.
As long as I can remember I've wanted a phone with sense, now that I have a great phone, the allure of getting one with sense and having everything integrated the way the website shows is AWESOME!
I'm torn, because on one hand, there will be alot of great development for this phone, but on the other hand, I think, that I would much rather keep one of my phones stock, and let updates come naturally...
With this phone I was rooted and installed a custom rom as soon as one was available.
I think I might just return my G2X till the sensation comes out... I still have about 8 hours to make a decision though.
I've about had it with the issues that I am having.. Having returned one G2x for another, both are having the same problems. I have until Friday night to return - I may resort to borrowing an old flip phone until the Sensation comes out.
Random freezes - random reboots - random shutdowns - serious battery life inconsistencies...
What's worse - the same problems are happening with CyanogenMod too.
jn_vista said:
I dont have any issues at all with my G2X, but I just went on HTCs website, and looked up the Sensation... Wow.
As long as I can remember I've wanted a phone with sense, now that I have a great phone, the allure of getting one with sense and having everything integrated the way the website shows is AWESOME!
I'm torn, because on one hand, there will be alot of great development for this phone, but on the other hand, I think, that I would much rather keep one of my phones stock, and let updates come naturally...
With this phone I was rooted and installed a custom rom as soon as one was available.
I think I might just return my G2X till the sensation comes out... I still have about 8 hours to make a decision though.
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If you like it, keep it. Not so much? Return it. Simple as that
I like the look of the Sensation, will there be worse battery life on the sensation?
Mikeglongo said:
I like the look of the Sensation, will there be worse battery life on the sensation?
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clicked the wrong button.... nobody knows, just wait til it comes out
Ha, well I want to be sure before my 14 days is up, I guess I won't know. I hope my g2x gets better battery life soon
returning another g2x. i have 30 days so when the sensation comes out i will even exchange.
I ordered mine on the 20th so the day the phone was out in the store. I had to order mine online since i am a T-Mobile RSA. I have alittle screen bleed but not much. I will be doing exchanges until i get one with no bleed. Other wise i have had no problems at all. No reboots, lock ups, data problems, nothing the phone is rock solid. I love the phone. Every person that has come into my store with problems i have told them that T-Mobile is going to exchange this for you under the lifetime warranty if you have it for the life of you having the phone. So you have nothing to worry about. The phone is a great phone to have. Do the exchanges until you get a working one. I know i would do it until i did. Even if it meant doing it 100 times. Also my understanding is that sensation is going to be locked down which is the reason why Cyan did not want to get one but got the G2X. So if thats the case have fun trying to get a mods on the phone.
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I like the look of the Sensation, will there be worse battery life on the sensation?
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HTC's have a history of poor battery life. Sure you can mod, but then your hoping a dev can pull **** out of a hat for you...
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I have until Friday to return mine. Battery life was the main reason I got the g2x over the sensation, reasoning that htc usually has terrible battery life. However with all the current battery troubles, I'm not so sure I made the right choice. The most confusing thing is the reviews I read (cnet, bgr, engadget) all said the battery life was above average. Did they get different units or something? If the battery life isn't any better on the g2x, and if sense 3.0 isn't so terrible, other things like the qhd screen, more ram, and htc quality make the sensation pretttty appealing. Thoughts?
I really don't have problems with battery life at all. It lasts longer then my HTC Nexus One. I'm able to go from 8am-midnight under my normal usage of several calls, push emails, exchange, twitter widget, facebook widget, Weather widget, Kingdoms live and Word Feud, plus surfing and tweaking through out the day.
I really like the phone. My only gripe is the LCD backlight compared to the AMOLED, but I knew that going in.
HTC is locking their bootloaders like everyone else. Most phones with encrypted/signed bootloaders are still, to this day, locked down and unflashable.
The Samsung Galaxy S2 would be my second choice since the bootloader is unlocked and should be another one that is flashable. But we have absolutely no idea when it is coming out. I'm hearing September. It lacks the Tegra 2... which will burn as more and more Tegra 2 only games/apps start pouring in.
I say stay with the G2x. Aside from the backlight bleed, every other issue is just software. The Official Gingerbread rom will be out very soon and it should hopefully take care of more of our problems.
Aside from the Official build, we already have CM7 hot in the mix and I believe they will have the phone running great within a week or two.
If you are really worried about it, couldn't you just do a return... then pick up another one that has another 14 days?
I returned mine. I only purchased to give the network a try and see if it works for me as I am currently a Verizon customer... so I kinda had to return it regardless.
I'm going to wait it out a bit. I have a Fascinate, and coming from a Galaxy S series phone, this phone was *almost* a lateral switch. There are many advantages this phone has over the original Galaxy S series, but I felt like I needed more. Maybe it was the same 4" screen size?
Overall, it's a nice phone. Build quality is excellent and it functions very well. The reboot issues didn't bother me too much, but the fact that the issues were there really made me a bit uncomfortable. Coming from a Samsung phone that had wacky software, the last thing I wanted was another phone sharing some of the qualities I did not like - bad code.
I think LG is in a position to fix their mistakes and make this phone a contender for long term support. They just have to follow it with their 2.3 update properly... I.E. no bugs!!!
DeezNotes said:
I think LG is in a position to fix their mistakes and make this phone a contender for long term support. They just have to follow it with their 2.3 update properly... I.E. no bugs!!!
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I agree... I am keeping mine personally... I think this next update to 2.3 will have a nice new batch of drivers, specifically the tegra2 drivers since nvidia are driver freaks so I expect a performance boost via drivers as well as some fixes from LG such as the battery...
employees cant return phones, but i can warranty exchange
which i just did. at first i thought i could deal with the bleeding in the top left corner, but now on CM7 with the black statusbar, it is extremely noticeable even with the dimmest brightness setting. so i caved in and am getting a replacement sent to me.
now i gotta unroot and go back to stock. and theres no guarantee that the replacement will be any better, but it cant get much worse than the bleed on mine. looking at all the pics i seem to have one of the worst on here.
I'm leaning towards keeping it. I purchased two of them and my wife's has been just fine. I had the random reboots and exchanged mine. The new one has virtully no bleed and the reboots are gone. For anyone suffering from random reboots/shutdowns and lock ups, please exchange it. I thought I was just being paranoid, but my first one really had a problem. The new one is running like a champ.
The Sensation is tempting, but having to deal with a locked phone does not sound very fun at all. I know they will hack the loader eventually, but I really dislike having to deal with ads.
Six months from now there will be something cooler than the Sensation or G2x.
I think a lot of people are giving a little too much credit to LG for the Gingerbread update being the "magic wand" that will fix everything. Sure, it could but the cure all, BUT, if they hosed things up in Froyo, who's to say they didn't do the same (OR WORSE!) in Gingerbread?
Just saying!
It's a coin toss at the moment as to whether it's going to fix the problem or stay the same...
Guys, it's really simple. I'm going to the tmobile store the day the Sensation is released, and if it gives me that Nexus One feel in hand, I'm throwing the g2x on Ebay.
That's really all there is to it. Just keep your G2X protected until that point. By that time you could have it rooted with a stable CM7 release, upping the price a bit more. If the Sensation is $499 off contract as rumored, you should be able to get close to that.
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...sure, it could but the cure all, BUT, if they hosed things up in Froyo, who's to say they didn't do the same (OR WORSE!) in Gingerbread?...
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Also consider the 02X has the same problems and was out six months before they released the G2X.
Profondo_Rosso said:
...I'm throwing the g2x on Ebay.
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An HTC T-Mobile rep confirmed the pricing and the 6/8 launch date on the Sensation forum. They've already scheduled a big pre-launch party on 6/6.
After seeing all these "I'm leaving" threads, I'd like to do a little experiment. It's quite obvious some of you bought the G2X thinking it would be the perfect phone, void of any major flaws.
I'd like to compile some data and find out what device the G2X replaced for you and also if you are bonified happy with the G2X.
For me, I came from the Nexus One (which I still have and that is now collecting dust), and I am very happy with my G2X. My particular device has difficulty maintaining UV while sleeping and also has some minor backlight bleed, but I am still very happy with my purchase.
BTW, the reason I posted this thread in General, is because all the "announcement" threads are also located here.
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Here's what we have up to post #42:
Happy Users
6 - Nexus One
1 - EVO
1 - Dell Venue Pro
4 - G1
3 - HD2
3 - MT4G
1 - Tilt 2
3 - G2
1 - MT3G
1 - Nexus S
2 - Galaxy S 4G
1 - Vibrant
1 - Blackberry 8900
2 - Multiple devices in short time period
1 - iPhone 3G
Total: 32
Unhappy Users
1 - HTC Hero (Legend)
So far, none... I guess I missed them all before they left.
I came from the nexus one as well and am happy. Only froze on me once, no reboots and you only see any screen bleed if in a dark room and a black screen. My only complaint is my data seems to lock up after using it a bit and I have to resort a minute or 2 before it works again.
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My only complaint is my data seems to lock up after using it a bit and I have to resort a minute or 2 before it works again.
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I had that problem occasionally with my Nexus and also with the G2X now. I think it's more of a problem with tower load than anything else.
I also came from a Nexus One.
I love this phone. Mine is rock solid. Kinda feel bad for everyone who seem to be having so many problems with theirs. Although I can't help but wonder if the problems are actually that widespread or if its a very vocal minority.
I came from the HTC EVO and I am very happy with the G2X. The G2X, in my case, only have a slight light bleed at the very top corners, other that, everything else is bugs in the software that will eventually get straightened out.
The EVO...was definitely the worst phone I have ever owned based on physical quality control.
anthonylokrn said:
The EVO...was definitely the worst phone I have ever owned based on physical quality control.
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Believe it or not, but that's the first time I've ever heard someone say that... Did you try multiple devices and get all lemons, or just settle with your first one? I have several friends that have EVO's and love them... given they aren't what you'd call geeks though. Maybe the EVO really was too mainstream to be accepted by geeks like us.
On that note, maybe the G2X can also be placed in that category, albeit at a slightly higher level... in other words it takes the geekiest geek to enjoy the G2X despite it's flaws.
antoniouslj said:
After seeing all these "I'm leaving" threads, I'd like to do a little experiment. It's quite obvious some of you bought the G2X thinking it would be the perfect phone, void of any major flaws.
I'd like to compile some data and find out what device the G2X replaced for you and also if you are bonified happy with the G2X.
For me, I came from the Nexus One (which I still have and that is now collecting dust), and I am very happy with my G2X. My particular device has difficulty maintaining UV while
sleeping and also has some minor backlight bleed, but I am still very happy with my purchase.
BTW, the reason I posted this thread in General, is because all the "announcement" threads are also located here.
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I came from the Dell Venue Pro...a Windows Phone 7 device. Not new to Android...having had the Cliq, My Touch and the Nexus One...I ordered my N1 about 2 minutes after the site went online that day
I am still very happy with my Dell, and WP in general. But I am estatic about my G2x. No buyers remorse, no regrets
I came from the G1 lol.
Huge improvement however the g1 had way better GPS and battery life.
I've not experience any crashes our reboot but I did experience a few "battery overhear" issues
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Came from the HD2 running CM7. I loved that phone...and now I love this one. I've only had two reboots...both times shortly after plugging it into my laptop (connection?). The only other complaint is the the scuffs and the small chip out of the glass from dropping it three times. Stupid me, I had no case or screen protector; and the concrete isn't kind. Anyway...I love it!
You know... I remember when I got my G2X and I tested the GPS on the stock froyo rom. It locked in seconds... I'm thinking the GPS problems will all be fixed with a new set of drivers.
WOOO! Thought I had a problem phone since I was not getting any data and after tmobile removed all data connection, and re-added, all is well again. This is coming from not getting ANY data the last day.
This phone is now the beastziLLa I thought it was. No issues here other than battery life which seems to be random on my end (pretty much no drain overnight, but does typically last the entire day for me).
Great phone! (coming from a rooted/modded HD2 which I still love and dont know what to do with it, anyone looking for an HD2?)
Peace!
I came from a mytouch 4g...but had a hd2 for a while...and so many other phones...g2..cliq2...sidekick 4g...but this phone seems to be what I was looking for...I'm a phone person so ill soon get the sensation ..
But I still love this phone..
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I had a MT4G which was an excellent phone, never had any issues with it. Despite its flaws, I love my G2X equally though.
brett_day said:
I had a MT4G which was an excellent phone, never had any issues with it. Despite its flaws, I love my G2X equally though.
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Just realized we're from the same city! Wow...
I came from the G1 too. Ran everything since CM5 to Froyo By Laszlo. Too bad the dev's test phone blew up. He could have kept the development going. Right now I'm on my 2nd G2x, because my first one had a screen defect...and a dead pixel...and GPS issues...and random reboots...It pretty much sucked.
I desperately needed a replacement. But I wanted to give the G2x another try because I like the G2x overall. I'm not quite liking the Sensation yet, even with the features it has over the G2x. The date number for the broken one was 5-06-2011, and my new one is 5-14-2011. My replacement certainly works better, but I don't think I can flash ANY of Faux's kernels onto it. I haven't tried Trinity yet though.
Other than that, it works perfect. GPS works, Wi-fi, no reboots. So far 5 hrs off the charger and it's at 71%. It's a toss-up. You have a chance to get a good one or a bad one. But if you get a good one, it's a keeper.
I came from whats in my sig had that phone for 2 years and loved it Bought my g2x on launch day. Totally happy with the phone I did get one replacement 6 days in due to major screen bleed. New one has it in the extreme top corners but nothing I cant live with. I have had 3 reboots but the phone was full operational by the time I picked it up so again nothing I would complain about. I didn't have much hope for battery life as battery technology has long since been behind the curve in advancement. I average with features turned off and moderate use (look at news 2 or 3 times a day the occasional youtube video search for wire schematic, constant texts from the wife) about 11 hours. Now with all the features on GPS, wifi, and such and the same moderate use about 6 or 7 hours. but if I add in an hour long charge sometime around mid day everything is perfect. It's a bad ass phone, I am happy with my purchase and with the Dev support I see roaming in here I will probably sport the G2x for the next 2 years lol.
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Just realized we're from the same city! Wow...
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That is so cool! What a small world! Nice to have a neighbor on here
I came from a G2, loved that phone because of the easily removable battery door, hardware keyboard, and LED light. However, I am very satisfied with my G2x even though I miss those three features.
My previous phone was the Nexus One. I was EXTREMELY happy with that phone. Best phone I have ever had by far. Before that was the G1. That phone eventually got slow and sluggish and the Nexus One never did. It was smooth from day one up until the day I had it a week or so ago. I don't really regret selling it since I technically got something better, but i'm not sure how much more I like this phone right now.
It's great as far as the look of the phone. It's a fast phone. But the GPS not working is a huge turn off right now. I don't use it a real lot, but I use it a small amount at work when driving. The GPS was extremely slow and sluggish the few times I tried using it. It would sometimes take a little while for the GPS to start as well. Aside from the GPS, I haven't really had any other issues. It has restarted a few times that i've actually seen, but that isn't a huge deal to me. The battery life has been pretty good.
I gave up my G2 for this G2x and, I haven't had one problem with it.
I do miss my G2 but, my wife has one now if I want to go back to it.
I am going out on a limb here and share my deepest feelings with all of you.
I LOVE my g2x!
There, I said it. I feel a little vulnerable right now... may need a hug.
There is so much anti g2x here and it makes me sad. This is a great phone. Nay, a great big beast of s phone. It has it foibles(bet you don't hear that often) but they will be worked out. I had a troubled phone for a while... reboots, battery heat up, etc... didn't return it, but I kept fiddling with it, removed some apps, messed with settings, trolled the forums and I haven't had a reboot in a week! Runs as smooth as aloe vera lotion now.
I think that people are jumping ship too early, and for the Sensation?!? Really?? That phone is also having issues with reboots and stuff not working... PLUS it is slower, has an iffy screen and runs Sense!
So if you do trade down for that other phone... just go, and stop telling us about it.
Good luck and we'll see you when you come back...
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+1 for foibles
Its a gorgeous piece of hardware, with a really solid cameras, and I'm loving having the speakers in another place than laid flat on the back.
Not being satisfied with the dev support, which is kind of more a privilege than most people here realize, made me realize that having a phone that works more often than not is worth running on Stock(with root and a few choice mods).
Having been around since 1.5 dropped, I thought about what I needed in custom roms then vs what I need now. The G1 needed severe performance boosts to operate like the current crop does on its worst days, apps2sd and keeping an ext partition for caching on was important. I got my power control widget and navigation in 1.6 (I was a big fan of SuperD roms) and I was ecstatic.
Fast forward and I get damn near most of that right out the box. do i need the miscelleaneous features of cm7, like notificationbar power controls? Nope, I can go back to living like I did with my eclair Nexus One(and then with CM6) or my G1.
So comparing the current offerings to just stock, I dont feel like im at a total loss. It's just the way this phones lifespan panned out, and really you cant win them all.
And I am definitely not impressed with the Sensation and Sense3.0. My boss broke the volume key on the store demo the day he opened the box. Dropped it once and the rocker snapped out in the worst way. weird design choices all over that phone.
I really think the dev support will happen when GB drops. Then we can find the new things we didn't know we couldn't live without.
God, remember 1.5? Seems like so long ago... I remember way back when jesusfreke was showing us the what was possible, and when cyan got his cease and desist letter from google... my G1 will always have a special place in my heart...
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I love using the G2X and I'm glad I get to keep her. She will be my hacking/gaming phone. Both the G2X and the Sensation have there own problems like you said. I was just lucky enough to get two bug free devices. As said in my review, I think the G2X has a smoother UI and is very responsive. That being said, the. Sensation doesn't even come close until you disable all of those silly animations on Sense. Some games run better on the G2X and some run better on the Sensation. Homerun Hartford 3D for example runs smoother and looks better on the Sensation but dungeon defenders runs smoother on the G2X. Everyone just needs to start making there own decissions and stop making posts like "Bellow Sensation. Bye G2X". I picked the Sensation as my daily driver due to the larger display without being bigger that the G2X. The colors are sharper and appear to pop more on the Sensation but the blacks on the G2X a great. When both devices are sitting right next to each other its unbelievable how muck crisper and clearer the text on the Sensation is. I also use the camera a lot and the Sensation takes much better photos and HD video. Both devices are great but I would say to someone who puts gaming at the top of there smart phone list, get the G2X. If your priority is emailing, web browsing, RSS, ebooks and taking pictures then get the Sensation.
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I love using the G2X and I'm glad I get to keep her. She will be my hacking/gaming phone. Both the G2X and the Sensation have there own problems like you said. I was just lucky enough to get two bug free devices. As said in my review, I think the G2X has a smoother UI and is very responsive. That being said, the. Sensation doesn't even come close until you disable all of those silly animations on Sense. Some games run better on the G2X and some run better on the Sensation. Homerun Hartford 3D for example runs smoother and looks better on the Sensation but dungeon defenders runs smoother on the G2X. Everyone just needs to start making there own decissions and stop making posts like "Bellow Sensation. Bye G2X". I picked the Sensation as my daily driver due to the larger display without being bigger that the G2X. The colors are sharper and appear to pop more on the Sensation but the blacks on the G2X a great. When both devices are sitting right next to each other its unbelievable how muck crisper and clearer the text on the Sensation is. I also use the camera a lot and the Sensation takes much better photos and HD video. Both devices are great but I would say to someone who puts gaming at the top of there smart phone list, get the G2X. If your priority is emailing, web browsing, RSS, ebooks and taking pictures then get the Sensation.
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My priorities are the second block but im still keeping the g2x that sensation just feels like a toy cant be havin that imma business man.
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i'm still a fresh new owner of my G2x (got it yesterday). but i've already thrown on 3 custom roms and have decided to stick w/the mcr GB leak (2.3.3) since its more vanilla than CM7. CM7 is just WAY to much extras i don't care for; i wish they had a kitchen sink option like paul's MCR roms do. i love being able to pick and choose what items and tweaks.
anywho, i've been an android owner since the N1 dropped and must say that it almost seems like its more people tinkering with an OS and parts they shouldn't be or don't understand. permission changes on a system file can cause your phone to do some crazy things, i've done it a few times myself (get in a boot loop by renaming a system sound or font, etc)
the G2x's hardware specs made me drop the full off contract price on it. i'm just hoping we see the GB roms mature even more, hopefully once the official GB hits; we'll still have some devs w/one that will update their roms.
sure would love to see a Honeycomb port. this thing has the specs.
yea i cant say enough about my g2x, i really have no problems other then minimal screen bleed and it dont bother me cuz i cant see it in everyday use!....i have no random reboots or sod, i absolutely love the power of this phone, **** the other day i was playing with my wifes mytouch 4g and remember that thing was fast and held its own, i remember when i had one i thought damn this is fast....the other day when i was done playing with it i gave it back to her, and thought to myself damn hun your phone is a turd compared to mine lol....my point being the mytouch 4g was a very fast phone and this phone just digs in its ass! i love everything about it i will definitely say it is the best phone i ever had and i aint going nowhere.....
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yea i cant say enough about my g2x, i really have no problems other then minimal screen bleed and it dont bother me cuz i cant see it in everyday use!....i have no random reboots or sod, i absolutely love the power of this phone, **** the other day i was playing with my wifes mytouch 4g and remember that thing was fast and held its own, i remember when i had one i thought damn this is fast....the other day when i was done playing with it i gave it back to her, and thought to myself damn hun your phone is a turd compared to mine lol....my point being the mytouch 4g was a very fast phone and this phone just digs in its ass! i love everything about it i will definitely say it is the best phone i ever had and i aint going nowhere.....
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BobbyDukes707 said:
cyan got his cease and desist letter from google...
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dark times for everyone
Another satisfied G2X owner right here. Got mine off some guy on Craigslist before I'd read about all the issues people were having. I think I only kept it stock for maybe 1 day before rooting it and flashing roms on it. I've been using it for over a month now and I haven't once regretted buying it.
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+1 for foibles
Its a gorgeous piece of hardware, with a really solid cameras, and I'm loving having the speakers in another place than laid flat on the back.
Not being satisfied with the dev support, which is kind of more a privilege than most people here realize, made me realize that having a phone that works more often than not is worth running on Stock(with root and a few choice mods)
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Have you tried the Ultimate G2X rom?
It has been my daily driver for a couple of weeks now and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It's based on Froyo so all of the hardware works as it should (no wonky battery issues, HDMI works, GPS works, etc). It has a very nice dark theme to it (I never liked the light colored stock Froyo), and is very snappy and responsive.
It's a very nice rom indeed. Very fast. Very stable. And everything works.
FWIW
Very satisfied G2x owner here. All around the best cellphone i have ever owned.
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Have you tried the Ultimate G2X rom?
It has been my daily driver for a couple of weeks now and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It's based on Froyo so all of the hardware works as it should (no wonky battery issues, HDMI works, GPS works, etc). It has a very nice dark theme to it (I never liked the light colored stock Froyo), and is very snappy and responsive.
It's a very nice rom indeed. Very fast. Very stable. And everything works.
FWIW
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+1 for the Ultimate Rom. I've been using it since the day it was released with zero issues. But...Faux's Rom is starting to look VERY interesting...
I've been a pretty vocal complainer about this phone. I've gotten four. But my complaints have mostly been about the lack of real support and communication. It sucks that LG and Tmo put us all in this position.
I'm getting the Sensation tomorrow. I got the upgrade price. But I'm only considering it a bridge phone until the bugs get worked out of the G2X. When I thought I only had the option of one phone, I HAD to leave for the Sensation. In my case I initially chose the G2X knowing about and comparing it to the Sensation. Sensy is indeed a great phone, but side by side, we all know the G2X is just.....well, better!
But my cell phone is my primary communication device, I don't have a wired home phone. I've had reception issues and it has been too buggy to use the basic features. Not having a choice I was forced to move to the Sensy.
But being in this position, with both phones, changes the equasion. I get the luxury of waiting for the update. I've now decided to request a fifth one after all.....just because the screen bleed IS definatively worse on this fourth one. But if they refuse, I still feel like the screen bleed is a non issue in everyday use. But it appsolutely screams at me when I turn the phone on....
I truly believe that all the other issues will be fixed with the updates(s).
I've spent the last two days putting the phone back where is was before my reset last weekend. I've had no reboots all week, but my data has been giving me fits. I've missed not playing with it this week, so couldn't resist putting it all back. Supposed to get Sensy tommorrow.....have such mixed feelings. This sucks....got two beautiful phones and so conflicted and angst-ridden. I guess I can think of worse positions to be in LOL.
Happy Fathers day to my fellow fathers. And all you mothers for putting up with us!
ickster said:
I've been a pretty vocal complainer about this phone. I've gotten four. But my complaints have mostly been about the lack of real support and communication. It sucks that LG and Tmo put us all in this position.
I'm getting the Sensation tomorrow. I got the upgrade price. But I'm only considering it a bridge phone until the bugs get worked out of the G2X. When I thought I only had the option of one phone, I HAD to leave for the Sensation. In my case I initially chose the G2X knowing about and comparing it to the Sensation. Sensy is indeed a great phone, but side by side, we all know the G2X is just.....well, better!
But my cell phone is my primary communication device, I don't have a wired home phone. I've had reception issues and it has been too buggy to use the basic features. Not having a choice I was forced to move to the Sensy.
But being in this position, with both phones, changes the equasion. I get the luxury of waiting for the update. I've now decided to request a fifth one after all.....just because the screen bleed IS definatively worse on this fourth one. But if they refuse, I still feel like the screen bleed is a non issue in everyday use. But it appsolutely screams at me when I turn the phone on....
I truly believe that all the other issues will be fixed with the updates(s).
I've spent the last two days putting the phone back where is was before my reset last weekend. I've had no reboots all week, but my data has been giving me fits. I've missed not playing with it this week, so couldn't resist putting it all back. Supposed to get Sensy tommorrow.....have such mixed feelings. This sucks....got two beautiful phones and so conflicted and angst-ridden. I guess I can think of worse positions to be in LOL.
Happy Fathers day to my fellow fathers. And all you mothers for putting up with us!
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There is no doubt in my mind that the G2X is snappier and more responsive than the Sensation within the UI but in my mind there is plenty of other things that go into making a phone better. Yes, I care about speed and power but when the ONLY difference in speed I see is in the UI, it's not a big deal in my opinion. The G2X's display does have better blacks but the Sensation has better colors, sharper text, bigger display and a brighter screen. When both phones are in direct sunlight, it's not even a close race. The Sensation wins hands down.
Applications run just as fast, if not faster on the Sensation. One of the only games I play religiously is HomeRun Battle 3D and it is in fact smoother plus looks a lot better on the Sensation.
When you finally get to use the Sensation you will realize that the only thing the G2X does better is a speedy UI. Everything from the camera to the contacts app is inferior.
In the end, I wish I liked the G2X better since I paid retail price for it and even though mine barely had any bugs, the Sensation is still the all around better phone.
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There is no doubt in my mind that the G2X is snappier and more responsive than the Sensation within the UI but in my mind there is plenty of other things that go into making a phone better. Yes, I care about speed and power but when the ONLY difference in speed I see is in the UI, it's not a big deal in my opinion. The G2X's display does have better blacks but the Sensation has better colors, sharper text, bigger display and a brighter screen. When both phones are in direct sunlight, it's not even a close race. The Sensation wins hands down.
Applications run just as fast, if not faster on the Sensation. One of the only games I play religiously is HomeRun Battle 3D and it is in fact smoother plus looks a lot better on the Sensation.
When you finally get to use the Sensation you will realize that the only thing the G2X does better is a speedy UI. Everything from the camera to the contacts app is inferior.
In the end, I wish I liked the G2X better since I paid retail price for it and even though mine barely had any bugs, the Sensation is still the all around better phone.
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I can't speak to the differences in the screen because I've only used the G2X in everyday situations. I do know that I have no trouble reading my screen in sunlight.
As for the different UI and different camera, etc that you mentioned, I think you're overlooking the fantastic hardware that makes up the G2X. I'm not knocking the Sensation because it may be a better solution for some. But I am very very satisfied with the G2X. Many of the roms that are out now have ironed most of the issues and made this phone extremely reliable. I don't have any issues with mine. And I can flash any camera, homescreen app, etc I want and customize to my hearts content.
My point is its a great piece of hardware that has some buggy software from the factory. Iron out the bugs and this thing flies.
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I have had my phone for about a month now, hated it at first but have slowly gotten it to the point of stable and fast.
Running CM7 builds for two weeks now (since the bugs have slowly gotten worked out). No reboots or issues, data is fast, battery life is good and everything is just "snappy".
I have given up on LG support for this phone, I won't be buying another LG phone again. Rushing this product to market and abandoning it shows that they hold the consumer in contempt. Hardware and build quality this phone is amazing, software support is terrible.
If LG was smart they would release their source for the phone and allow the true experts (rom cookers) to have their way with perfecting it, LG's software team isn't worth the paper their over sized paychecks are printed on.
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I can't speak to the differences in the screen because I've only used the G2X in everyday situations. I do know that I have no trouble reading my screen in sunlight.
As for the different UI and different camera, etc that you mentioned, I think you're overlooking the fantastic hardware that makes up the G2X. I'm not knocking the Sensation because it may be a better solution for some. But I am very very satisfied with the G2X. Many of the roms that are out now have ironed most of the issues and made this phone extremely reliable. I don't have any issues with mine. And I can flash any camera, homescreen app, etc I want and customize to my hearts content.
My point is its a great piece of hardware that has some buggy software from the factory. Iron out the bugs and this thing flies.
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Flashing all the camera apps in the world won't change the actually camera. When I said camera, I meant it as in hardware, not software. If you want to talk software than I can tell you, I think the G2X camera app is better than the Sensations. By the way. My G2X really didn't have any bugs at all except for some minor screen bleed. I thought it was a pretty reliable phone if you ask me. I know I'm keeping mine for a little bit so I have something to hack until HTC unlocks the Sensations bootloader. Lastly, I didn't really have any problems reading my G2X in sunlight either but it doesn't mean something else can't look better.
BobbyDukes707 said:
I really think the dev support will happen when GB drops. Then we can find the new things we didn't know we couldn't live without.
God, remember 1.5? Seems like so long ago... I remember way back when jesusfreke was showing us the what was possible, and when cyan got his cease and desist letter from google... my G1 will always have a special place in my heart...
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Ah, yeah. I remember fiddling with my G1, when JesusFreake and Haykuro were the kings. Those were the days..
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First off this isn't another comparison to the G2x thread, but more of a Thank God I switched for the sensation thread.
The sensation Is gorgeous. At first it looked funny to me, but then, it started to look and feel like my old N1 (the back anyways). I love the design. The shell that completely cases the screen is awesome. The way their back is half the phone is incredible. Only thing id change is id put speakers on the bottom, I loved that about the G2x.
Speed is awesome. Yes its not as wham bamm boom boom like the g2x fast, but it is consistent in speed and its plenty fast enough considering the amount of recources the phone is using,( I.E. Sense and bloat). Like someone else mentioned also, its almost as if the apps on the sensation load faster, respond faster, etc. That could be due to the extra .2 ghz i guess.
Camera completely destroys the G2x. If camera was your strong point on the g2x, well the sensation has just as good of app for the camera and takes a pic a hell of a lot faster than the g2x. Although I think the G2x FFC is light years ahead of the grainy Sensation FFC. G2x actually took sweet FFC pics.
The Video camera is great. I love how if you get out of focus at any point, just touch the screen and let it refocus. the g2x wouldn't refocus worth a turd.
GPS is also better than the G2x. At first g2x was good, but then it just started taking longer to get locks.. Pissed me off. The sensation so far is a steady 5 seconds.. My tracks was also very nice. SO happy
Battery. Honestly Ive never really seen a difference in any of my phones.lol From the Htc touch, tp1, tp2, n1, vibrant, hd2 etc. They all seem to have the same general heavy use time (constant) but so far IMO its about the same is my G2x, but I was one with great battery on the g2x so that's saying the sensation has it good.
screen is awesome as well. WE all know there are 2 types and honestly I could really care which I get. Its not the selling point to me in the phone. Anyways its nice. The 4.3 really don't feel that big from the way they cut down on surrounding material beyond the screen. They fit it very nice into a little for factor and IMO the design of the back is how they achieved this.
This is my first sense device. Ive never been a fan cause it was to bloated and just wow. Sense 3.0 seems nice. Theres a lot to customize, but things are very organized and laid out nicely. Im still kinda learning the ropes, but all around I think its a darn stinking good UI, YETTTTT is a little hard on the battery.
Damn Damn Damn, Did I say Damn? I wish we had root. I need Screen shots, remove bloat, and download some of those cool apps that I didn't know even took root, until I re downloaded them and it denied me access. lol Who knew root was so important. lol. Although Im getting along without it.
Reception is good. My g2x struggled here and my sensation does much better. So 2 thumbs up for that shiat stew.
General bugs i've noticed are Just a ****ass piece of dust under the screen like 5, but honestly there so small that most people wouldn't (I read the smallest line at doctors that they dont even use on the test, just did if for ****s and giggles) see it and trying to get it replaced would be dumb since they probably wouldn't see it and Ive got all together a flawless device. I also never see them, period. Unless I'm in the sun and got all the other dust off (which is hard cause it instantly comes back, and even then, if you screen has em on em anyways, who cares about a few underneath unless it grows) and searching I cant see em. There is the Wifi bug, but I never experience it. you literally need to block the back, but it wont just do it anytime, its only when signal is weak for me. Almost like they got the DB vs Bars wrong, (if wifi uses even DB). Other than that. I have nothing wrong with mine.
The g2x man. Started out ok. GO to market place while on wifi, and it kicks you off wifi although still shows the wifi bars. Basically it just switched to data until you toggled back. I hated how the browser barely scrolled, to go down a long page you had to finger fuk the **** out of the screen. The camera was not the best for a 8 mp, and the video was pretty choppy. Then theres the screen bleed that at first didn't bug me, then it just was noticeable. My phone was solid though other than those issues, no reboots, until about 5 weeks later. Then it would happen probably every 2 days.
All in all if anyone is on the fence. Don't be. I was, I wanted to think my G2x was the **** and a software update would make it all better, But why wait? That still may not even fix the issue anyways. If your looking for the better phone by far all around? Then the sensation it is. EASY
Its actually nice to have a nice reliable phone. SENSATION FTMFWWWWWWWWWWWW
SORRY FOR MISSPELLINGS, PUNCTUATION, ETC. Im no college grad
I know a couple ass holes over in the G2X forum who won't appreciate this. As you know, I have both devices as well and prefer the Sensation over the G2X. There are a couple guys over in the G2X forum that will defend that thing until it blows up. They don't want to admit something else is better than the phone there stuck with for a couple years.
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I know a couple ass holes over in the G2X forum who won't appreciate this. As you know, I have both devices as well and prefer the Sensation over the G2X. There are a couple guys over in the G2X forum that will defend that thing until it blows up. They don't want to admit something else is better than the phone there stuck with for a couple years.
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Yes, I do know you have both. Actually your Posts helped me decide to get a sensation. Thanks again. Thank god im rid that G2x. It was nice at first. Just got crappy after a bit. Heated up a lot etc. This is great man. Yes, they will defend it to the end. lmfaoooo hell tegra can run on other devices not using Chainfire 3d so meh. No reason to keep a G2x.
Id love to link this in the g2x forum...lol make em mad.
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Yes, I do know you have both. Actually your Posts helped me decide to get a sensation. Thanks again. Thank god im rid that G2x. It was nice at first. Just got crappy after a bit. Heated up a lot etc. This is great man. Yes, they will defend it to the end. lmfaoooo hell tegra can run on other devices not using Chainfire 3d so meh. No reason to keep a G2x.
Id love to link this in the g2x forum...lol make em mad.
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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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hehe should cause a stir... Here we go. lol
And as JRwin knows I also have the g2x. I havent been able to do a side by side comparison yet because I traded one of my G2x's for the sensation and the other one LG had for repair. It's on the fed ex truck today. I do notice though that the g2x was a lot faster but to be fair it's running vanilla android and it was overclocked. I kind of do miss my G2x though and am looking forward to getting it back from LG today. The only issue I really had with my G2x was screen bleeding. It was acceptable on one (the one I traded) and really bad on the other that I sent to LG for repair. I think they are both great phones(if you get a g2x that doesnt have tons of issues which seems to be rare)
I really do love both phones. The guy from phone dog I think put it best. The G2x is a Ferrari that looks like an ugly car and the sensation is like a BMW 5 series, really nice looking and also a good performer but not as fast as the Ferrari
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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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+1 and not looking back...this thing is SO much better.
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And as JRwin knows I also have the g2x. I havent been able to do a side by side comparison yet because I traded one of my G2x's for the sensation and the other one LG had for repair. It's on the fed ex truck today. I do notice though that the g2x was a lot faster but to be fair it's running vanilla android and it was overclocked. I kind of do miss my G2x though and am looking forward to getting it back from LG today. The only issue I really had with my G2x was screen bleeding. It was acceptable on one (the one I traded) and really bad on the other that I sent to LG for repair. I think they are both great phones(if you get a g2x that doesnt have tons of issues which seems to be rare)
I really do love both phones. The guy from phone dog I think put it best. The G2x is a Ferrari that looks like an ugly car and the sensation is like a BMW 5 series, really nice looking and also a good performer but not as fast as the Ferrari
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Maybe once you go back to the G2x you will realize sensation ftw? or maybe thats just your experience. Either way, great post. I also said to a lot of people before that guy said that, " the g2x is a muscle car with no bells and whistles and the sensation is a luxury car with bells and whistles just not as fast as the muscle car". lol
very true?
Also I think the route you go is great. Send in for repair instead of waist another store device and it will probably have a issue as well. My sensation is issue free other than a couple specs of dust so if I ever get bothered or it gets worse. Im doing that. Sending it in. I want this phone. lol
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I wanted to think my G2x was the **** and a software update would make it all better, But why wait?
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Because the G2x + CM7 >>>>>>>>>> Sensation
Once they ship the G2x with GB stock, the Sensation will be old news.
player911 said:
Because the G2x + CM7 >>>>>>>>>> Sensation
Once they ship the G2x with GB stock, the Sensation will be old news.
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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
I've been using the Verizon Fascinate (Galaxy S) since launch. When the G2x came out, I got that on launch day to check out T-Mobile and a potentially awesome phone. The G2x was okay, but it didn't feel like a full step up from my Galaxy S series phone. Then it got a little buggy and I didn't have confidence in it. I returned it and cancelled at the end of the 14-day window, because I felt the Sensation may give me the step up I was looking for.
I received my Sensation in the mail yesterday. Honestly, I'm ready to tell them to port my number NOW and cancel Verizon, but it hasn't even been 24 hours yet. I'll be patient and see what issues arise over the next few days as I know some issues take a while to surface (based on what I've read). Even so, the Sensation really is an awesome phone. As already written, I wish the speaker was somewhere else like on the G2x, but that's a design flaw most phones seem to have nowadays for some reason.
I also didn't imagine all the issues LG/T-Mobile are having with the G2x. Things have been real shady since the phone was launched. I'm real glad I jumped off that boat when I had the chance. There doesn't need to be any hate between any phone users - even if they use an iPhone. You have every right to love your device and dislike another. That being said, the Sensation definitely feels like a winner... but it is too soon to tell for sure.
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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
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Yeah, I have to agree about CM7. I didnt have too many issues with CM7 but being a CM7 user on other devices I could tell for sure CM7 on the GX2 still had a long way to go. I was actually running Faux's rom the last week or so I had it and it seemed the most stable for my daily use than any other G2X GB rom.
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Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
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I'm 24hrs in to my Sensation. I have both yes. I got the Sensation because my son has it. It looked like it was worth the try.
I can't say I'm as impressed with the Sensation as you are. I probably won't keep it. But, that does not mean its not a good phone. It's impressive in its own right. Some things are better than the G2x...other things, not so much. I like Sense. I like the Camera speed, I like the stupid locking ring. I like the snappy performance, after setup. And the thing I liked the best, when going to a web page, I could read it right off...without the resizing required in the G2x.
Locked or unlocked bootloaders hold no important place for me. The Chefs on XDA are great. They do wonders with everything. Unlocked bootloaders are their domain. When the Sensation is unlocked...they will jump to it.
To me the Sensation feels off. I was a Nexus One fan and this does not feel like that. Close...but enough difference.
Right now there are enough good things between both phones to make everyone happy. If people feel they cannot wait for the fixes and updates on the G2x, the Sensation is a great choice. I can't blame them for wanting to have a phone that equals most of the expectations they had when they paid good money.
To each their own. I refuse to belittle anyone for 'jumping ship'. Its only natural to defend your own choice. Its also natural to ridicule those that do not agree with your choice. Both phones are good. It's like arguing which playmate of the month is better....Miss/Mr. January or Miss/Mr. February. For me, Don't worry, you be happy....ok?
BarryH_GEG said:
Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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This is an excellent post. I expect my phone to work like my Desktop or Laptop computer, turn it on and everything works, with the G2x it has been hit and miss!
WOW.. So I sent in my g2x because this one had really bad screen bleeding. The other 2 I had (one mine, one my daughter's) didnt have it nearly as bad as the one.. anyway.. I got it back today. On the repair form it said cause: scratch, action: replaced case (housing)
umm the phone didnt have a single scratch on it(it was brand new!) so they did a repair that didnt need to be done, and my issue still remains. I call them, he gets the repair facility on the line and they tell him screen bleeding is normal with TFT displays. I tell them I have two others and while they have it and it's acceptable, the one I sent them was very severe and protruded to the middle of the screen, not just the corners. Plus if you hold it on an angle you can see a white light bar across the top(which was not present on the other two) He gave me a supervisor who is now trying to get a supervisor from the repair facility to see if there is anything they can do in this case, but she doesnt think there is anything that can be done.. really LG?? really?? First and last LG smartphone I buy..
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First and last LG smartphone I buy..
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I feel exactly the same way. The horrifying thing is that Google's deciding between LG and HTC for production of the Nexus 4G this Fall. I hope folks from Google read XDA. The O2X is selling for 20% less than the SGS2, Sensation, and Atrix in Europe. I wonder why?
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Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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All good points. It really doesn't matter if someone does or does not have those issues. If you do, its important to you. Period. Only you can judge just how important it is.
Stop with the caveats....like it or not....move on...or not. Period.
alodar1 said:
I'm 24hrs in to my Sensation. I have both yes. I got the Sensation because my son has it. It looked like it was worth the try.
I can't say I'm as impressed with the Sensation as you are. I probably won't keep it. But, that does not mean its not a good phone. It's impressive in its own right. Some things are better than the G2x...other things, not so much. I like Sense. I like the Camera speed, I like the stupid locking ring. I like the snappy performance, after setup. And the thing I liked the best, when going to a web page, I could read it right off...without the resizing required in the G2x.
Locked or unlocked bootloaders hold no important place for me. The Chefs on XDA are great. They do wonders with everything. Unlocked bootloaders are their domain. When the Sensation is unlocked...they will jump to it.
To me the Sensation feels off. I was a Nexus One fan and this does not feel like that. Close...but enough difference.
Right now there are enough good things between both phones to make everyone happy. If people feel they cannot wait for the fixes and updates on the G2x, the Sensation is a great choice. I can't blame them for wanting to have a phone that equals most of the expectations they had when they paid good money.
To each their own. I refuse to belittle anyone for 'jumping ship'. Its only natural to defend your own choice. Its also natural to ridicule those that do not agree with your choice. Both phones are good. It's like arguing which playmate of the month is better....Miss/Mr. January or Miss/Mr. February. For me, Don't worry, you be happy....ok?
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well spoken...
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All good points. It really doesn't matter if someone does or does not have those issues. If you do, its important to you. Period. Only you can judge just how important it is.
Stop with the caveats....like it or not....move on...or not. Period.
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I ask this purely out of curiosity, not to be antagonistic. How do you use your phone that any or all of the above would be acceptable? I'm starting to think there are two different groups of phone users here: 1) phone as a workhorse, and 2) phone as a hobby. I consider myself a part of the first group and my G2X became history (at great expense) when it rebooted itself in the middle of a conference call to Asia. As a hobby, I could see where the idiosyncrasies of the G2X would actually make it fun but as a device to depend on, not so much. To each their own I guess.