I have reached the d-day on remorse period. What are you going to do? - T-Mobile LG G2x

I have no idea what to do. I have followed all the experts advice regarding battery life and it has improved, but it is not even close to my HD2. I was really hoping one of the genius devs would have reworked the battery drivers by now. I say that because I have seen them work miracles before.
I use my phone for business and getting emails in a timely matter is also an issue.
So should I hang in and hope Gingerbread or Ice cream fixes the issues or are there deeper problems with this phone?
I am still strongly considering the Sensation. I am not concerned with the locked boot loader because I am a member of XDA and they always figure those things out. Kinda miss the larger screen and build quality of HTC.
Anyone else on the fence about this phone?

I dont have any issues at all with my G2X, but I just went on HTCs website, and looked up the Sensation... Wow.
As long as I can remember I've wanted a phone with sense, now that I have a great phone, the allure of getting one with sense and having everything integrated the way the website shows is AWESOME!
I'm torn, because on one hand, there will be alot of great development for this phone, but on the other hand, I think, that I would much rather keep one of my phones stock, and let updates come naturally...
With this phone I was rooted and installed a custom rom as soon as one was available.
I think I might just return my G2X till the sensation comes out... I still have about 8 hours to make a decision though.

I've about had it with the issues that I am having.. Having returned one G2x for another, both are having the same problems. I have until Friday night to return - I may resort to borrowing an old flip phone until the Sensation comes out.
Random freezes - random reboots - random shutdowns - serious battery life inconsistencies...
What's worse - the same problems are happening with CyanogenMod too.

jn_vista said:
I dont have any issues at all with my G2X, but I just went on HTCs website, and looked up the Sensation... Wow.
As long as I can remember I've wanted a phone with sense, now that I have a great phone, the allure of getting one with sense and having everything integrated the way the website shows is AWESOME!
I'm torn, because on one hand, there will be alot of great development for this phone, but on the other hand, I think, that I would much rather keep one of my phones stock, and let updates come naturally...
With this phone I was rooted and installed a custom rom as soon as one was available.
I think I might just return my G2X till the sensation comes out... I still have about 8 hours to make a decision though.
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If you like it, keep it. Not so much? Return it. Simple as that

I like the look of the Sensation, will there be worse battery life on the sensation?

Mikeglongo said:
I like the look of the Sensation, will there be worse battery life on the sensation?
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clicked the wrong button.... nobody knows, just wait til it comes out

Ha, well I want to be sure before my 14 days is up, I guess I won't know. I hope my g2x gets better battery life soon

returning another g2x. i have 30 days so when the sensation comes out i will even exchange.

I ordered mine on the 20th so the day the phone was out in the store. I had to order mine online since i am a T-Mobile RSA. I have alittle screen bleed but not much. I will be doing exchanges until i get one with no bleed. Other wise i have had no problems at all. No reboots, lock ups, data problems, nothing the phone is rock solid. I love the phone. Every person that has come into my store with problems i have told them that T-Mobile is going to exchange this for you under the lifetime warranty if you have it for the life of you having the phone. So you have nothing to worry about. The phone is a great phone to have. Do the exchanges until you get a working one. I know i would do it until i did. Even if it meant doing it 100 times. Also my understanding is that sensation is going to be locked down which is the reason why Cyan did not want to get one but got the G2X. So if thats the case have fun trying to get a mods on the phone.

Mikeglongo said:
I like the look of the Sensation, will there be worse battery life on the sensation?
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HTC's have a history of poor battery life. Sure you can mod, but then your hoping a dev can pull **** out of a hat for you...
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I have until Friday to return mine. Battery life was the main reason I got the g2x over the sensation, reasoning that htc usually has terrible battery life. However with all the current battery troubles, I'm not so sure I made the right choice. The most confusing thing is the reviews I read (cnet, bgr, engadget) all said the battery life was above average. Did they get different units or something? If the battery life isn't any better on the g2x, and if sense 3.0 isn't so terrible, other things like the qhd screen, more ram, and htc quality make the sensation pretttty appealing. Thoughts?

I really don't have problems with battery life at all. It lasts longer then my HTC Nexus One. I'm able to go from 8am-midnight under my normal usage of several calls, push emails, exchange, twitter widget, facebook widget, Weather widget, Kingdoms live and Word Feud, plus surfing and tweaking through out the day.
I really like the phone. My only gripe is the LCD backlight compared to the AMOLED, but I knew that going in.
HTC is locking their bootloaders like everyone else. Most phones with encrypted/signed bootloaders are still, to this day, locked down and unflashable.
The Samsung Galaxy S2 would be my second choice since the bootloader is unlocked and should be another one that is flashable. But we have absolutely no idea when it is coming out. I'm hearing September. It lacks the Tegra 2... which will burn as more and more Tegra 2 only games/apps start pouring in.
I say stay with the G2x. Aside from the backlight bleed, every other issue is just software. The Official Gingerbread rom will be out very soon and it should hopefully take care of more of our problems.
Aside from the Official build, we already have CM7 hot in the mix and I believe they will have the phone running great within a week or two.
If you are really worried about it, couldn't you just do a return... then pick up another one that has another 14 days?

I returned mine. I only purchased to give the network a try and see if it works for me as I am currently a Verizon customer... so I kinda had to return it regardless.
I'm going to wait it out a bit. I have a Fascinate, and coming from a Galaxy S series phone, this phone was *almost* a lateral switch. There are many advantages this phone has over the original Galaxy S series, but I felt like I needed more. Maybe it was the same 4" screen size?
Overall, it's a nice phone. Build quality is excellent and it functions very well. The reboot issues didn't bother me too much, but the fact that the issues were there really made me a bit uncomfortable. Coming from a Samsung phone that had wacky software, the last thing I wanted was another phone sharing some of the qualities I did not like - bad code.
I think LG is in a position to fix their mistakes and make this phone a contender for long term support. They just have to follow it with their 2.3 update properly... I.E. no bugs!!!

DeezNotes said:
I think LG is in a position to fix their mistakes and make this phone a contender for long term support. They just have to follow it with their 2.3 update properly... I.E. no bugs!!!
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I agree... I am keeping mine personally... I think this next update to 2.3 will have a nice new batch of drivers, specifically the tegra2 drivers since nvidia are driver freaks so I expect a performance boost via drivers as well as some fixes from LG such as the battery...

employees cant return phones, but i can warranty exchange
which i just did. at first i thought i could deal with the bleeding in the top left corner, but now on CM7 with the black statusbar, it is extremely noticeable even with the dimmest brightness setting. so i caved in and am getting a replacement sent to me.
now i gotta unroot and go back to stock. and theres no guarantee that the replacement will be any better, but it cant get much worse than the bleed on mine. looking at all the pics i seem to have one of the worst on here.

I'm leaning towards keeping it. I purchased two of them and my wife's has been just fine. I had the random reboots and exchanged mine. The new one has virtully no bleed and the reboots are gone. For anyone suffering from random reboots/shutdowns and lock ups, please exchange it. I thought I was just being paranoid, but my first one really had a problem. The new one is running like a champ.
The Sensation is tempting, but having to deal with a locked phone does not sound very fun at all. I know they will hack the loader eventually, but I really dislike having to deal with ads.
Six months from now there will be something cooler than the Sensation or G2x.

I think a lot of people are giving a little too much credit to LG for the Gingerbread update being the "magic wand" that will fix everything. Sure, it could but the cure all, BUT, if they hosed things up in Froyo, who's to say they didn't do the same (OR WORSE!) in Gingerbread?
Just saying!
It's a coin toss at the moment as to whether it's going to fix the problem or stay the same...

Guys, it's really simple. I'm going to the tmobile store the day the Sensation is released, and if it gives me that Nexus One feel in hand, I'm throwing the g2x on Ebay.
That's really all there is to it. Just keep your G2X protected until that point. By that time you could have it rooted with a stable CM7 release, upping the price a bit more. If the Sensation is $499 off contract as rumored, you should be able to get close to that.

JWhipple said:
...sure, it could but the cure all, BUT, if they hosed things up in Froyo, who's to say they didn't do the same (OR WORSE!) in Gingerbread?...
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Also consider the 02X has the same problems and was out six months before they released the G2X.

Profondo_Rosso said:
...I'm throwing the g2x on Ebay.
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An HTC T-Mobile rep confirmed the pricing and the 6/8 launch date on the Sensation forum. They've already scheduled a big pre-launch party on 6/6.

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I Havent even received the phone yet and im already contemplating returning it

Hi,
So.. Reading all these posts about this phone Im already contemplating returning it even though it hasnt arrived yet.
The main reason is the LCD bleeding mentioned by everyone. All the other battery inconsistencies, reboots, shutting down, wifi, whatever are all software and will be updated and fixed after all this is a new phone and as early adopters its part of the risk. BUT..... The LCD is a hardware issue, they purchased defective LCD screens and now they are going to have to sell all the units already manufactured before they make a batch with better LCDs.
Therefore, If I put so much money down on a phone, I dont mind the software bugs which can be fixed, I do mind hardware problems.
That being said I havent even received my phone yet but it does seem like returning it and waiting for the sensation would be a safer bet dont u think?
johnnyp500 said:
Hi,
So.. Reading all these posts about this phone Im already contemplating returning it even though it hasnt arrived yet.
The main reason is the LCD bleeding mentioned by everyone. All the other battery inconsistencies, reboots, shutting down, wifi, whatever are all software and will be updated and fixed after all this is a new phone and as early adopters its part of the risk. BUT..... The LCD is a hardware issue, they purchased defective LCD screens and now they are going to have to sell all the units already manufactured before they make a batch with better LCDs.
Therefore, If I put so much money down on a phone, I dont mind the software bugs which can be fixed, I do mind hardware problems.
That being said I havent even received my phone yet but it does seem like returning it and waiting for the sensation would be a safer bet dont u think?
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if your into rooting and customizing the sensation might have a locked bootloader. also your phone might not have those issues. you could be sending back a perfect or close to perfect device. this is the first batch so you have to expect the worst. you can always return if you have issues.
This is going to be my first android phone so what is rooting and locked bootloader?
johnnyp500 said:
This is going to be my first android phone so what is rooting and locked bootloader?
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oh okay. rooting is like jailbreaking a iphone. it opens your phone up to bigger and better things. a bootloader is basically security. without being able to unlock that you wont be able to use custom roms, and tweaks to make the phone better than what it is.
When do we know the second batch of phones hit the stores?
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When do we know the second batch of phones hit the stores?
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I would love to know that too since i returned mine a couple days ago and am waiting to get another one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062748 This poster said they received their phone and it was manufactured 4/29/11 and have not had a single bad issue thus far and everything is working better than before. Mine have been manufactured in early April, so perhaps this is an indication of a fixed batch of sorts.
See my thread of love thread. Manufacturer date of 4/6.
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IMO this phone rocks... As suggested by @ScooterG check out his thread about "thread of love". And another thing sometimes internet and blogs hipe things. Most of the ppl use their phones for 2-3 yrs and they see no problems in it. I know some ppl who still do not know what is FLASH and why some websites do not work with iPhone?? But only advice i would give you is, don ever trust everything you read. Try it yourself... Once you get the phone check things out like battery, reboot issue, freezing issue, lcd bleeding. If you think that ur phone is not good enough, return it.
One more thing i wanna tell you is, about LCD bleeding i agree that some ppl have really bad issues, but as far as the regular use is concerned minor lcd bleeding is unnoticeable. PPL check lcd bleeding by going in the dark room and opening black wallpapers or some app on their phones, now tell me one thing are you ever going to keep looking at black screen on your phone??? NO. You are going to watch videos, play games and do regular stuff. So use your phone like you are going to use for daily use and see if you encounter any problems.
About the Sensation and Galaxy s II, I loved both the phones, but then I realised that I want to root my phones and install custom ROMs on it. I don't think any of these 2 phones will be as easy to root and install custom ROMs on them as G2X. On top of that updates come fast for stock android phones for sure...
This is all my point of view. Read and think. Decide on your own.
I read all the good, bad, and ugly here before buying my G2x (replaced my beloved Nokia N900). Oddly, I had just the opposite reaction than you did. All the chatter here gave me a huge amount of confidence that whatever I didn't like about the G2x -- I could change with a little root magic and some apps.
And so I did. I'm very pleased.
I was a religious crackberry user(used iphone 1st gen and 3g too), then switched to a hd2(first unofficial android phone running gingerbread), then g2 now with the g2x. Be honest with you, the lcd bleeding is not noticable. I'm very happy with it so far.
The LCD bleeding is pretty minor. You really have to be in a completely black room with the screen showing black to notice it.
There are some extreme cases but I think they are rare, even for here.
I suspect the battery issues are a result of what people are installing or doing on their phone. From what I've read, "I've exchanged it 5 times and they all have battery issues"... tells me they are installing an app that eats battery or they are leaving games running in the background or something.
We do know the battery driver is wonky but the developers are working on a fix.
My phone lasts from 8am-midnight on my normal usage which consists of:
Several phones calls, frequently texting, playing WordFeud and Kingdoms Live (both online games) several times throughout the day, Push Exchange email (I get like 80-100 emails a day), I usually look up my horoscope once a day, I also have Push Gmail emails going, and Twitter, Facebook, and a weather widget that updates every 15minutes.
I also use google maps + gps, Google Voice Search, etc. periodically throughout the day also.
That's a ****load of usage ^ I would love to know how your getting that. I'm texting and idling my phone and I don't even get my phone to have that much usage

The few, the proud...

I am going out on a limb here and share my deepest feelings with all of you.
I LOVE my g2x!
There, I said it. I feel a little vulnerable right now... may need a hug.
There is so much anti g2x here and it makes me sad. This is a great phone. Nay, a great big beast of s phone. It has it foibles(bet you don't hear that often) but they will be worked out. I had a troubled phone for a while... reboots, battery heat up, etc... didn't return it, but I kept fiddling with it, removed some apps, messed with settings, trolled the forums and I haven't had a reboot in a week! Runs as smooth as aloe vera lotion now.
I think that people are jumping ship too early, and for the Sensation?!? Really?? That phone is also having issues with reboots and stuff not working... PLUS it is slower, has an iffy screen and runs Sense!
So if you do trade down for that other phone... just go, and stop telling us about it.
Good luck and we'll see you when you come back...
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+1 for foibles
Its a gorgeous piece of hardware, with a really solid cameras, and I'm loving having the speakers in another place than laid flat on the back.
Not being satisfied with the dev support, which is kind of more a privilege than most people here realize, made me realize that having a phone that works more often than not is worth running on Stock(with root and a few choice mods).
Having been around since 1.5 dropped, I thought about what I needed in custom roms then vs what I need now. The G1 needed severe performance boosts to operate like the current crop does on its worst days, apps2sd and keeping an ext partition for caching on was important. I got my power control widget and navigation in 1.6 (I was a big fan of SuperD roms) and I was ecstatic.
Fast forward and I get damn near most of that right out the box. do i need the miscelleaneous features of cm7, like notificationbar power controls? Nope, I can go back to living like I did with my eclair Nexus One(and then with CM6) or my G1.
So comparing the current offerings to just stock, I dont feel like im at a total loss. It's just the way this phones lifespan panned out, and really you cant win them all.
And I am definitely not impressed with the Sensation and Sense3.0. My boss broke the volume key on the store demo the day he opened the box. Dropped it once and the rocker snapped out in the worst way. weird design choices all over that phone.
I really think the dev support will happen when GB drops. Then we can find the new things we didn't know we couldn't live without.
God, remember 1.5? Seems like so long ago... I remember way back when jesusfreke was showing us the what was possible, and when cyan got his cease and desist letter from google... my G1 will always have a special place in my heart...
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I love using the G2X and I'm glad I get to keep her. She will be my hacking/gaming phone. Both the G2X and the Sensation have there own problems like you said. I was just lucky enough to get two bug free devices. As said in my review, I think the G2X has a smoother UI and is very responsive. That being said, the. Sensation doesn't even come close until you disable all of those silly animations on Sense. Some games run better on the G2X and some run better on the Sensation. Homerun Hartford 3D for example runs smoother and looks better on the Sensation but dungeon defenders runs smoother on the G2X. Everyone just needs to start making there own decissions and stop making posts like "Bellow Sensation. Bye G2X". I picked the Sensation as my daily driver due to the larger display without being bigger that the G2X. The colors are sharper and appear to pop more on the Sensation but the blacks on the G2X a great. When both devices are sitting right next to each other its unbelievable how muck crisper and clearer the text on the Sensation is. I also use the camera a lot and the Sensation takes much better photos and HD video. Both devices are great but I would say to someone who puts gaming at the top of there smart phone list, get the G2X. If your priority is emailing, web browsing, RSS, ebooks and taking pictures then get the Sensation.
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I love using the G2X and I'm glad I get to keep her. She will be my hacking/gaming phone. Both the G2X and the Sensation have there own problems like you said. I was just lucky enough to get two bug free devices. As said in my review, I think the G2X has a smoother UI and is very responsive. That being said, the. Sensation doesn't even come close until you disable all of those silly animations on Sense. Some games run better on the G2X and some run better on the Sensation. Homerun Hartford 3D for example runs smoother and looks better on the Sensation but dungeon defenders runs smoother on the G2X. Everyone just needs to start making there own decissions and stop making posts like "Bellow Sensation. Bye G2X". I picked the Sensation as my daily driver due to the larger display without being bigger that the G2X. The colors are sharper and appear to pop more on the Sensation but the blacks on the G2X a great. When both devices are sitting right next to each other its unbelievable how muck crisper and clearer the text on the Sensation is. I also use the camera a lot and the Sensation takes much better photos and HD video. Both devices are great but I would say to someone who puts gaming at the top of there smart phone list, get the G2X. If your priority is emailing, web browsing, RSS, ebooks and taking pictures then get the Sensation.
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My priorities are the second block but im still keeping the g2x that sensation just feels like a toy cant be havin that imma business man.
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i'm still a fresh new owner of my G2x (got it yesterday). but i've already thrown on 3 custom roms and have decided to stick w/the mcr GB leak (2.3.3) since its more vanilla than CM7. CM7 is just WAY to much extras i don't care for; i wish they had a kitchen sink option like paul's MCR roms do. i love being able to pick and choose what items and tweaks.
anywho, i've been an android owner since the N1 dropped and must say that it almost seems like its more people tinkering with an OS and parts they shouldn't be or don't understand. permission changes on a system file can cause your phone to do some crazy things, i've done it a few times myself (get in a boot loop by renaming a system sound or font, etc)
the G2x's hardware specs made me drop the full off contract price on it. i'm just hoping we see the GB roms mature even more, hopefully once the official GB hits; we'll still have some devs w/one that will update their roms.
sure would love to see a Honeycomb port. this thing has the specs.
yea i cant say enough about my g2x, i really have no problems other then minimal screen bleed and it dont bother me cuz i cant see it in everyday use!....i have no random reboots or sod, i absolutely love the power of this phone, **** the other day i was playing with my wifes mytouch 4g and remember that thing was fast and held its own, i remember when i had one i thought damn this is fast....the other day when i was done playing with it i gave it back to her, and thought to myself damn hun your phone is a turd compared to mine lol....my point being the mytouch 4g was a very fast phone and this phone just digs in its ass! i love everything about it i will definitely say it is the best phone i ever had and i aint going nowhere.....
sarni84 said:
yea i cant say enough about my g2x, i really have no problems other then minimal screen bleed and it dont bother me cuz i cant see it in everyday use!....i have no random reboots or sod, i absolutely love the power of this phone, **** the other day i was playing with my wifes mytouch 4g and remember that thing was fast and held its own, i remember when i had one i thought damn this is fast....the other day when i was done playing with it i gave it back to her, and thought to myself damn hun your phone is a turd compared to mine lol....my point being the mytouch 4g was a very fast phone and this phone just digs in its ass! i love everything about it i will definitely say it is the best phone i ever had and i aint going nowhere.....
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BobbyDukes707 said:
cyan got his cease and desist letter from google...
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dark times for everyone
Another satisfied G2X owner right here. Got mine off some guy on Craigslist before I'd read about all the issues people were having. I think I only kept it stock for maybe 1 day before rooting it and flashing roms on it. I've been using it for over a month now and I haven't once regretted buying it.
N31N said:
+1 for foibles
Its a gorgeous piece of hardware, with a really solid cameras, and I'm loving having the speakers in another place than laid flat on the back.
Not being satisfied with the dev support, which is kind of more a privilege than most people here realize, made me realize that having a phone that works more often than not is worth running on Stock(with root and a few choice mods)
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Have you tried the Ultimate G2X rom?
It has been my daily driver for a couple of weeks now and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It's based on Froyo so all of the hardware works as it should (no wonky battery issues, HDMI works, GPS works, etc). It has a very nice dark theme to it (I never liked the light colored stock Froyo), and is very snappy and responsive.
It's a very nice rom indeed. Very fast. Very stable. And everything works.
FWIW
Very satisfied G2x owner here. All around the best cellphone i have ever owned.
phburks said:
Have you tried the Ultimate G2X rom?
It has been my daily driver for a couple of weeks now and I have had absolutely no issues with it. It's based on Froyo so all of the hardware works as it should (no wonky battery issues, HDMI works, GPS works, etc). It has a very nice dark theme to it (I never liked the light colored stock Froyo), and is very snappy and responsive.
It's a very nice rom indeed. Very fast. Very stable. And everything works.
FWIW
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+1 for the Ultimate Rom. I've been using it since the day it was released with zero issues. But...Faux's Rom is starting to look VERY interesting...
I've been a pretty vocal complainer about this phone. I've gotten four. But my complaints have mostly been about the lack of real support and communication. It sucks that LG and Tmo put us all in this position.
I'm getting the Sensation tomorrow. I got the upgrade price. But I'm only considering it a bridge phone until the bugs get worked out of the G2X. When I thought I only had the option of one phone, I HAD to leave for the Sensation. In my case I initially chose the G2X knowing about and comparing it to the Sensation. Sensy is indeed a great phone, but side by side, we all know the G2X is just.....well, better!
But my cell phone is my primary communication device, I don't have a wired home phone. I've had reception issues and it has been too buggy to use the basic features. Not having a choice I was forced to move to the Sensy.
But being in this position, with both phones, changes the equasion. I get the luxury of waiting for the update. I've now decided to request a fifth one after all.....just because the screen bleed IS definatively worse on this fourth one. But if they refuse, I still feel like the screen bleed is a non issue in everyday use. But it appsolutely screams at me when I turn the phone on....
I truly believe that all the other issues will be fixed with the updates(s).
I've spent the last two days putting the phone back where is was before my reset last weekend. I've had no reboots all week, but my data has been giving me fits. I've missed not playing with it this week, so couldn't resist putting it all back. Supposed to get Sensy tommorrow.....have such mixed feelings. This sucks....got two beautiful phones and so conflicted and angst-ridden. I guess I can think of worse positions to be in LOL.
Happy Fathers day to my fellow fathers. And all you mothers for putting up with us!
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I've been a pretty vocal complainer about this phone. I've gotten four. But my complaints have mostly been about the lack of real support and communication. It sucks that LG and Tmo put us all in this position.
I'm getting the Sensation tomorrow. I got the upgrade price. But I'm only considering it a bridge phone until the bugs get worked out of the G2X. When I thought I only had the option of one phone, I HAD to leave for the Sensation. In my case I initially chose the G2X knowing about and comparing it to the Sensation. Sensy is indeed a great phone, but side by side, we all know the G2X is just.....well, better!
But my cell phone is my primary communication device, I don't have a wired home phone. I've had reception issues and it has been too buggy to use the basic features. Not having a choice I was forced to move to the Sensy.
But being in this position, with both phones, changes the equasion. I get the luxury of waiting for the update. I've now decided to request a fifth one after all.....just because the screen bleed IS definatively worse on this fourth one. But if they refuse, I still feel like the screen bleed is a non issue in everyday use. But it appsolutely screams at me when I turn the phone on....
I truly believe that all the other issues will be fixed with the updates(s).
I've spent the last two days putting the phone back where is was before my reset last weekend. I've had no reboots all week, but my data has been giving me fits. I've missed not playing with it this week, so couldn't resist putting it all back. Supposed to get Sensy tommorrow.....have such mixed feelings. This sucks....got two beautiful phones and so conflicted and angst-ridden. I guess I can think of worse positions to be in LOL.
Happy Fathers day to my fellow fathers. And all you mothers for putting up with us!
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There is no doubt in my mind that the G2X is snappier and more responsive than the Sensation within the UI but in my mind there is plenty of other things that go into making a phone better. Yes, I care about speed and power but when the ONLY difference in speed I see is in the UI, it's not a big deal in my opinion. The G2X's display does have better blacks but the Sensation has better colors, sharper text, bigger display and a brighter screen. When both phones are in direct sunlight, it's not even a close race. The Sensation wins hands down.
Applications run just as fast, if not faster on the Sensation. One of the only games I play religiously is HomeRun Battle 3D and it is in fact smoother plus looks a lot better on the Sensation.
When you finally get to use the Sensation you will realize that the only thing the G2X does better is a speedy UI. Everything from the camera to the contacts app is inferior.
In the end, I wish I liked the G2X better since I paid retail price for it and even though mine barely had any bugs, the Sensation is still the all around better phone.
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There is no doubt in my mind that the G2X is snappier and more responsive than the Sensation within the UI but in my mind there is plenty of other things that go into making a phone better. Yes, I care about speed and power but when the ONLY difference in speed I see is in the UI, it's not a big deal in my opinion. The G2X's display does have better blacks but the Sensation has better colors, sharper text, bigger display and a brighter screen. When both phones are in direct sunlight, it's not even a close race. The Sensation wins hands down.
Applications run just as fast, if not faster on the Sensation. One of the only games I play religiously is HomeRun Battle 3D and it is in fact smoother plus looks a lot better on the Sensation.
When you finally get to use the Sensation you will realize that the only thing the G2X does better is a speedy UI. Everything from the camera to the contacts app is inferior.
In the end, I wish I liked the G2X better since I paid retail price for it and even though mine barely had any bugs, the Sensation is still the all around better phone.
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I can't speak to the differences in the screen because I've only used the G2X in everyday situations. I do know that I have no trouble reading my screen in sunlight.
As for the different UI and different camera, etc that you mentioned, I think you're overlooking the fantastic hardware that makes up the G2X. I'm not knocking the Sensation because it may be a better solution for some. But I am very very satisfied with the G2X. Many of the roms that are out now have ironed most of the issues and made this phone extremely reliable. I don't have any issues with mine. And I can flash any camera, homescreen app, etc I want and customize to my hearts content.
My point is its a great piece of hardware that has some buggy software from the factory. Iron out the bugs and this thing flies.
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I have had my phone for about a month now, hated it at first but have slowly gotten it to the point of stable and fast.
Running CM7 builds for two weeks now (since the bugs have slowly gotten worked out). No reboots or issues, data is fast, battery life is good and everything is just "snappy".
I have given up on LG support for this phone, I won't be buying another LG phone again. Rushing this product to market and abandoning it shows that they hold the consumer in contempt. Hardware and build quality this phone is amazing, software support is terrible.
If LG was smart they would release their source for the phone and allow the true experts (rom cookers) to have their way with perfecting it, LG's software team isn't worth the paper their over sized paychecks are printed on.
phburks said:
I can't speak to the differences in the screen because I've only used the G2X in everyday situations. I do know that I have no trouble reading my screen in sunlight.
As for the different UI and different camera, etc that you mentioned, I think you're overlooking the fantastic hardware that makes up the G2X. I'm not knocking the Sensation because it may be a better solution for some. But I am very very satisfied with the G2X. Many of the roms that are out now have ironed most of the issues and made this phone extremely reliable. I don't have any issues with mine. And I can flash any camera, homescreen app, etc I want and customize to my hearts content.
My point is its a great piece of hardware that has some buggy software from the factory. Iron out the bugs and this thing flies.
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Flashing all the camera apps in the world won't change the actually camera. When I said camera, I meant it as in hardware, not software. If you want to talk software than I can tell you, I think the G2X camera app is better than the Sensations. By the way. My G2X really didn't have any bugs at all except for some minor screen bleed. I thought it was a pretty reliable phone if you ask me. I know I'm keeping mine for a little bit so I have something to hack until HTC unlocks the Sensations bootloader. Lastly, I didn't really have any problems reading my G2X in sunlight either but it doesn't mean something else can't look better.
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I really think the dev support will happen when GB drops. Then we can find the new things we didn't know we couldn't live without.
God, remember 1.5? Seems like so long ago... I remember way back when jesusfreke was showing us the what was possible, and when cyan got his cease and desist letter from google... my G1 will always have a special place in my heart...
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Ah, yeah. I remember fiddling with my G1, when JesusFreake and Haykuro were the kings. Those were the days..
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Full Week review after owning the G2x first

First off this isn't another comparison to the G2x thread, but more of a Thank God I switched for the sensation thread.
The sensation Is gorgeous. At first it looked funny to me, but then, it started to look and feel like my old N1 (the back anyways). I love the design. The shell that completely cases the screen is awesome. The way their back is half the phone is incredible. Only thing id change is id put speakers on the bottom, I loved that about the G2x.
Speed is awesome. Yes its not as wham bamm boom boom like the g2x fast, but it is consistent in speed and its plenty fast enough considering the amount of recources the phone is using,( I.E. Sense and bloat). Like someone else mentioned also, its almost as if the apps on the sensation load faster, respond faster, etc. That could be due to the extra .2 ghz i guess.
Camera completely destroys the G2x. If camera was your strong point on the g2x, well the sensation has just as good of app for the camera and takes a pic a hell of a lot faster than the g2x. Although I think the G2x FFC is light years ahead of the grainy Sensation FFC. G2x actually took sweet FFC pics.
The Video camera is great. I love how if you get out of focus at any point, just touch the screen and let it refocus. the g2x wouldn't refocus worth a turd.
GPS is also better than the G2x. At first g2x was good, but then it just started taking longer to get locks.. Pissed me off. The sensation so far is a steady 5 seconds.. My tracks was also very nice. SO happy
Battery. Honestly Ive never really seen a difference in any of my phones.lol From the Htc touch, tp1, tp2, n1, vibrant, hd2 etc. They all seem to have the same general heavy use time (constant) but so far IMO its about the same is my G2x, but I was one with great battery on the g2x so that's saying the sensation has it good.
screen is awesome as well. WE all know there are 2 types and honestly I could really care which I get. Its not the selling point to me in the phone. Anyways its nice. The 4.3 really don't feel that big from the way they cut down on surrounding material beyond the screen. They fit it very nice into a little for factor and IMO the design of the back is how they achieved this.
This is my first sense device. Ive never been a fan cause it was to bloated and just wow. Sense 3.0 seems nice. Theres a lot to customize, but things are very organized and laid out nicely. Im still kinda learning the ropes, but all around I think its a darn stinking good UI, YETTTTT is a little hard on the battery.
Damn Damn Damn, Did I say Damn? I wish we had root. I need Screen shots, remove bloat, and download some of those cool apps that I didn't know even took root, until I re downloaded them and it denied me access. lol Who knew root was so important. lol. Although Im getting along without it.
Reception is good. My g2x struggled here and my sensation does much better. So 2 thumbs up for that shiat stew.
General bugs i've noticed are Just a ****ass piece of dust under the screen like 5, but honestly there so small that most people wouldn't (I read the smallest line at doctors that they dont even use on the test, just did if for ****s and giggles) see it and trying to get it replaced would be dumb since they probably wouldn't see it and Ive got all together a flawless device. I also never see them, period. Unless I'm in the sun and got all the other dust off (which is hard cause it instantly comes back, and even then, if you screen has em on em anyways, who cares about a few underneath unless it grows) and searching I cant see em. There is the Wifi bug, but I never experience it. you literally need to block the back, but it wont just do it anytime, its only when signal is weak for me. Almost like they got the DB vs Bars wrong, (if wifi uses even DB). Other than that. I have nothing wrong with mine.
The g2x man. Started out ok. GO to market place while on wifi, and it kicks you off wifi although still shows the wifi bars. Basically it just switched to data until you toggled back. I hated how the browser barely scrolled, to go down a long page you had to finger fuk the **** out of the screen. The camera was not the best for a 8 mp, and the video was pretty choppy. Then theres the screen bleed that at first didn't bug me, then it just was noticeable. My phone was solid though other than those issues, no reboots, until about 5 weeks later. Then it would happen probably every 2 days.
All in all if anyone is on the fence. Don't be. I was, I wanted to think my G2x was the **** and a software update would make it all better, But why wait? That still may not even fix the issue anyways. If your looking for the better phone by far all around? Then the sensation it is. EASY
Its actually nice to have a nice reliable phone. SENSATION FTMFWWWWWWWWWWWW
SORRY FOR MISSPELLINGS, PUNCTUATION, ETC. Im no college grad
I know a couple ass holes over in the G2X forum who won't appreciate this. As you know, I have both devices as well and prefer the Sensation over the G2X. There are a couple guys over in the G2X forum that will defend that thing until it blows up. They don't want to admit something else is better than the phone there stuck with for a couple years.
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I know a couple ass holes over in the G2X forum who won't appreciate this. As you know, I have both devices as well and prefer the Sensation over the G2X. There are a couple guys over in the G2X forum that will defend that thing until it blows up. They don't want to admit something else is better than the phone there stuck with for a couple years.
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Yes, I do know you have both. Actually your Posts helped me decide to get a sensation. Thanks again. Thank god im rid that G2x. It was nice at first. Just got crappy after a bit. Heated up a lot etc. This is great man. Yes, they will defend it to the end. lmfaoooo hell tegra can run on other devices not using Chainfire 3d so meh. No reason to keep a G2x.
Id love to link this in the g2x forum...lol make em mad.
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Yes, I do know you have both. Actually your Posts helped me decide to get a sensation. Thanks again. Thank god im rid that G2x. It was nice at first. Just got crappy after a bit. Heated up a lot etc. This is great man. Yes, they will defend it to the end. lmfaoooo hell tegra can run on other devices not using Chainfire 3d so meh. No reason to keep a G2x.
Id love to link this in the g2x forum...lol make em mad.
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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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hehe should cause a stir... Here we go. lol
And as JRwin knows I also have the g2x. I havent been able to do a side by side comparison yet because I traded one of my G2x's for the sensation and the other one LG had for repair. It's on the fed ex truck today. I do notice though that the g2x was a lot faster but to be fair it's running vanilla android and it was overclocked. I kind of do miss my G2x though and am looking forward to getting it back from LG today. The only issue I really had with my G2x was screen bleeding. It was acceptable on one (the one I traded) and really bad on the other that I sent to LG for repair. I think they are both great phones(if you get a g2x that doesnt have tons of issues which seems to be rare)
I really do love both phones. The guy from phone dog I think put it best. The G2x is a Ferrari that looks like an ugly car and the sensation is like a BMW 5 series, really nice looking and also a good performer but not as fast as the Ferrari
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I would link it there just to show them that there are many people who switched to the Sensation who thinks it's the all around better device.
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+1 and not looking back...this thing is SO much better.
graffixnyc said:
And as JRwin knows I also have the g2x. I havent been able to do a side by side comparison yet because I traded one of my G2x's for the sensation and the other one LG had for repair. It's on the fed ex truck today. I do notice though that the g2x was a lot faster but to be fair it's running vanilla android and it was overclocked. I kind of do miss my G2x though and am looking forward to getting it back from LG today. The only issue I really had with my G2x was screen bleeding. It was acceptable on one (the one I traded) and really bad on the other that I sent to LG for repair. I think they are both great phones(if you get a g2x that doesnt have tons of issues which seems to be rare)
I really do love both phones. The guy from phone dog I think put it best. The G2x is a Ferrari that looks like an ugly car and the sensation is like a BMW 5 series, really nice looking and also a good performer but not as fast as the Ferrari
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Maybe once you go back to the G2x you will realize sensation ftw? or maybe thats just your experience. Either way, great post. I also said to a lot of people before that guy said that, " the g2x is a muscle car with no bells and whistles and the sensation is a luxury car with bells and whistles just not as fast as the muscle car". lol
very true?
Also I think the route you go is great. Send in for repair instead of waist another store device and it will probably have a issue as well. My sensation is issue free other than a couple specs of dust so if I ever get bothered or it gets worse. Im doing that. Sending it in. I want this phone. lol
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I wanted to think my G2x was the **** and a software update would make it all better, But why wait?
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Because the G2x + CM7 >>>>>>>>>> Sensation
Once they ship the G2x with GB stock, the Sensation will be old news.
player911 said:
Because the G2x + CM7 >>>>>>>>>> Sensation
Once they ship the G2x with GB stock, the Sensation will be old news.
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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
I've been using the Verizon Fascinate (Galaxy S) since launch. When the G2x came out, I got that on launch day to check out T-Mobile and a potentially awesome phone. The G2x was okay, but it didn't feel like a full step up from my Galaxy S series phone. Then it got a little buggy and I didn't have confidence in it. I returned it and cancelled at the end of the 14-day window, because I felt the Sensation may give me the step up I was looking for.
I received my Sensation in the mail yesterday. Honestly, I'm ready to tell them to port my number NOW and cancel Verizon, but it hasn't even been 24 hours yet. I'll be patient and see what issues arise over the next few days as I know some issues take a while to surface (based on what I've read). Even so, the Sensation really is an awesome phone. As already written, I wish the speaker was somewhere else like on the G2x, but that's a design flaw most phones seem to have nowadays for some reason.
I also didn't imagine all the issues LG/T-Mobile are having with the G2x. Things have been real shady since the phone was launched. I'm real glad I jumped off that boat when I had the chance. There doesn't need to be any hate between any phone users - even if they use an iPhone. You have every right to love your device and dislike another. That being said, the Sensation definitely feels like a winner... but it is too soon to tell for sure.
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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
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Yeah, I have to agree about CM7. I didnt have too many issues with CM7 but being a CM7 user on other devices I could tell for sure CM7 on the GX2 still had a long way to go. I was actually running Faux's rom the last week or so I had it and it seemed the most stable for my daily use than any other G2X GB rom.
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Once they ship the G2x with GB stock, the Sensation will be old news.
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Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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lol you must have rated that thread a 1 star. lmaoooo
Ive tried cm7 up to build 55 before dumping that DUMP. CM7 was buggy shiznit. Brightness cant even be changed. lol Gps bad, in landscape screen sensitivity crap, and lets not mention the 20% off battery meter even after it was apparently fixed.
GB on the G2x will not be released for a while, and will bring more bugs.
For real, go in landscape, and try and touch the bottom of the bottom letters. lol they dont respond. Something wack with that phone.
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I'm 24hrs in to my Sensation. I have both yes. I got the Sensation because my son has it. It looked like it was worth the try.
I can't say I'm as impressed with the Sensation as you are. I probably won't keep it. But, that does not mean its not a good phone. It's impressive in its own right. Some things are better than the G2x...other things, not so much. I like Sense. I like the Camera speed, I like the stupid locking ring. I like the snappy performance, after setup. And the thing I liked the best, when going to a web page, I could read it right off...without the resizing required in the G2x.
Locked or unlocked bootloaders hold no important place for me. The Chefs on XDA are great. They do wonders with everything. Unlocked bootloaders are their domain. When the Sensation is unlocked...they will jump to it.
To me the Sensation feels off. I was a Nexus One fan and this does not feel like that. Close...but enough difference.
Right now there are enough good things between both phones to make everyone happy. If people feel they cannot wait for the fixes and updates on the G2x, the Sensation is a great choice. I can't blame them for wanting to have a phone that equals most of the expectations they had when they paid good money.
To each their own. I refuse to belittle anyone for 'jumping ship'. Its only natural to defend your own choice. Its also natural to ridicule those that do not agree with your choice. Both phones are good. It's like arguing which playmate of the month is better....Miss/Mr. January or Miss/Mr. February. For me, Don't worry, you be happy....ok?
BarryH_GEG said:
Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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This is an excellent post. I expect my phone to work like my Desktop or Laptop computer, turn it on and everything works, with the G2x it has been hit and miss!
WOW.. So I sent in my g2x because this one had really bad screen bleeding. The other 2 I had (one mine, one my daughter's) didnt have it nearly as bad as the one.. anyway.. I got it back today. On the repair form it said cause: scratch, action: replaced case (housing)
umm the phone didnt have a single scratch on it(it was brand new!) so they did a repair that didnt need to be done, and my issue still remains. I call them, he gets the repair facility on the line and they tell him screen bleeding is normal with TFT displays. I tell them I have two others and while they have it and it's acceptable, the one I sent them was very severe and protruded to the middle of the screen, not just the corners. Plus if you hold it on an angle you can see a white light bar across the top(which was not present on the other two) He gave me a supervisor who is now trying to get a supervisor from the repair facility to see if there is anything they can do in this case, but she doesnt think there is anything that can be done.. really LG?? really?? First and last LG smartphone I buy..
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First and last LG smartphone I buy..
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I feel exactly the same way. The horrifying thing is that Google's deciding between LG and HTC for production of the Nexus 4G this Fall. I hope folks from Google read XDA. The O2X is selling for 20% less than the SGS2, Sensation, and Atrix in Europe. I wonder why?
BarryH_GEG said:
Everyone that defends the G2X always does so with caveats. A phone should just work. Every high-end phone's going to have quirks because of all the crap that's crammed in to them. But at a minimum a phone should:
- Only turn off and on when the user wants it to
- Dial and receive calls consistently
- Bluetooth should allow you to store profiles, connect automatically to paired devices, and provide consistent sound output
- Wi-Fi should accurately find locations, connect to them quickly, remember them, and connect again automatically
- Allow you to switch between 2/3/4G and Wi-Fi without issue
- GPS should work consistently
The O2X/G2X have problems in all the above areas (except for the seven seemingly perfect phones all the apologists own). I don't care if a phone has eight-cores clocked at 3.0ghz if it can't do the above well its speed is useless. The O2X/G2X will be remembered much like the Yugo and original Hyundai Excel when all is said and done.
The O2X was released with the same issues the G2X is suffering. LG's had six months to develop fixes. The same people that broke it are the ones trying to fix it. I hope for all its fans sake LG eventually gets it right but based on their track record I'd bet against in Vegas if I could.
Samsung's been monitoring issues with the SGS2 and has so far rolled out three updates to the ROM and four updates to the camera firmware in six weeks time. I'd guess from history HTC will be just as attentitive. Why would/should it take LG six months of customers begging and being inconvenienced to get a fix out? Their competency has to be questioned.
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All good points. It really doesn't matter if someone does or does not have those issues. If you do, its important to you. Period. Only you can judge just how important it is.
Stop with the caveats....like it or not....move on...or not. Period.
alodar1 said:
I'm 24hrs in to my Sensation. I have both yes. I got the Sensation because my son has it. It looked like it was worth the try.
I can't say I'm as impressed with the Sensation as you are. I probably won't keep it. But, that does not mean its not a good phone. It's impressive in its own right. Some things are better than the G2x...other things, not so much. I like Sense. I like the Camera speed, I like the stupid locking ring. I like the snappy performance, after setup. And the thing I liked the best, when going to a web page, I could read it right off...without the resizing required in the G2x.
Locked or unlocked bootloaders hold no important place for me. The Chefs on XDA are great. They do wonders with everything. Unlocked bootloaders are their domain. When the Sensation is unlocked...they will jump to it.
To me the Sensation feels off. I was a Nexus One fan and this does not feel like that. Close...but enough difference.
Right now there are enough good things between both phones to make everyone happy. If people feel they cannot wait for the fixes and updates on the G2x, the Sensation is a great choice. I can't blame them for wanting to have a phone that equals most of the expectations they had when they paid good money.
To each their own. I refuse to belittle anyone for 'jumping ship'. Its only natural to defend your own choice. Its also natural to ridicule those that do not agree with your choice. Both phones are good. It's like arguing which playmate of the month is better....Miss/Mr. January or Miss/Mr. February. For me, Don't worry, you be happy....ok?
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well spoken...
alodar1 said:
All good points. It really doesn't matter if someone does or does not have those issues. If you do, its important to you. Period. Only you can judge just how important it is.
Stop with the caveats....like it or not....move on...or not. Period.
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I ask this purely out of curiosity, not to be antagonistic. How do you use your phone that any or all of the above would be acceptable? I'm starting to think there are two different groups of phone users here: 1) phone as a workhorse, and 2) phone as a hobby. I consider myself a part of the first group and my G2X became history (at great expense) when it rebooted itself in the middle of a conference call to Asia. As a hobby, I could see where the idiosyncrasies of the G2X would actually make it fun but as a device to depend on, not so much. To each their own I guess.

Advise between phones

Hey All,
I've been reading a ton on both related forums, but I'm have a tough time trying to decide.
I'm try to choose between the MyTouch 4G, MyTouch 4G Slide, and this phone (G2X) for T-Mobile Prepaid upgrade, and will be buying through Ebay. My budget is about $200-250 new/mint used condition.
I really kind of like the G2X since it's a newer phone, bigger screen, etc., but the MyTouch seems to be much more stable/supported even though it's older. I'm concern about the "issues" on LG, do these still exist?
Examples
Random crashes lockups (did Gingerbread / custom ROMs fix this)
Light bleed (still a big issue on newer units)
Front camera is sideways still? (not a biggy just curious)
Do you guys have any feedback or personal recommendations.
Thanks,
Lich
Get the g2x I don't know bout any of those stoners but my phones has never failed me
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Aside from light bleeding issues, most issues are fixable through different ROMs, kernels. If they haven't been completely fixed, they're probably on there way or vary for some people.
Keep this mind, that though many users have been affected, it is not a 100% widespread issue. I never experienced the APN issues and the light bleed on my G2x is minuscule and does not affect my use (I only notice it when the phone is lit and show complete black, when does that ever happen? Exactly, never in normal usage). Depending on the ROM/kernel I was running, the SODs came and went.
As of right now, on my current set up (In my signature) I have 0 problems. No SODs, no need for battery pulls, no APN/data/call issues. It works great, performs well, really happy with it.
Older= more development, look at the nexus one forum, this phone is kinda new and there are some very good roms, all you really need is cm7 tho, they have done in months what lg could not do in a year
Thanks for the feedback.
I decided to go for it and won a G2X on Ebay for $230, very lightly used the seller states. I'm pretty excited and hope it's in a great a condition as he says.
The only thing is he said the manufacturing date is late 5/11, will that be an issue vs a new production one?
Thanks,
Lich
Should be ok as long as it has GB and the July baseband on it. If not update it as soon as you get it.
I have both an old one and a new one, my older phone hands my new ones its ass. All I can do is give you my opinion, if I could run my older phone on froyo and have some gingerbread features, I'd do it. If ever you get the chance, flash a stock froyo nandroid for our phone. The first thing you will notice is how perfect everything looks. I can't stand a white status bar, but they never hit that mark again. The 4g graphic is awesome.
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Just bought a Sensation - advice and tips?

I've had the G2 for a year now, I'm not due for an upgrade with Tmo until this time next year but I've been thinking about getting a better, faster phone for a little while now. Since I'm not purchasing through tmo I decided to surf ebay for a good deal and I narrowed my choice down to the sensation as the best quality for the money and just scored one for $275. Seemed like a good deal since most of them tend to go for over $300, was it?
It hasn't been delivered yet, but I've got a few questions for you all:
1. I have 30 days to return it. What issues should I look for?
2. Seems many have issues with the lack of battery, what is a realistic expectation for hours of use?
3. I've been using a version of CM on my G2 (mexdroid, best G2 rom I've found yet) and was wondering if there are any specific "favorite" cm7 based rom's here? I've tried a couple different Sense roms and never really liked any of them.
Any other tips or pieces of vital information y'all can give me would be great. This was a tough choice for me as there seem to be a lot of people who have issues with the sensation, but I'm hoping they are the loud minority. Thanks all for the help ahead of time, hope to become a regular on here as I don't plan on getting another phone for at least another year.
Well if it's new you shouldn't root it otherwise you may not be able to return it
If not... check out the link in my sig. Root, unlock, custom ROM, overclock in 10 mins
Its used but the eBay vendor offers a 30 day return policy. I definitely plan on rooting it but like I said I'd like to try out a cyanogen based from. I will definitely give yours a try though thank you for the link.
Dust under screen
Overheating
**** battery (doesn't matter if you're going to root though)
Bad quality speaker
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Gtj94 said:
Dust under screen
Overheating
**** battery (doesn't matter if you're going to root though)
Bad quality speaker
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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maybe plus checking out the reception of wifi/gps/mobile signal
that should be about it..
anyway for battery can consider anker
I was just reading about the newest update that started yesterday? It shouldn't make a difference that I bought this phone used and not through Tmobile, should it?
If you're into Cyanogenmod, you may want to look elsewhere. I love CM, I do, but the official CM rom is still in it's alpha stages, and while it runs "good", it doesn't feel like the 1.2Ghz dual core it's suppose to be. There's one or two CM-based roms. One is called HyperSensation, and it's really lightweight and fast, but again, it's based off an alpha.
There's still great development going on, and we're guaranteed ICS from either HTC or the devs (crossing fingers for CM9 nightlies), but if you're a CM faithful, this might not be your phone.
Edit: Also, you'll need either an Anker or Chichitec 1900 mAh battery, you'll have a hard time without it.
Got my Sensation XE 2 weeks ago and compared to my good old Hero I had before, I really like it. You'll definitely benefit from rooting it. Installing a custom ROM is worth it, but personally I would stick to Sense 3.0, runs better imo.
Gtj94 said:
Dust under screen
Overheating
**** battery (doesn't matter if you're going to root though)
Bad quality speaker
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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I have to agree with this poster and add these few things.
* (My experience) screen protectors don't fit snugly due to cured glass.
* A bit laggy
* My volume rocker fell off after 3monts and had to get the whole back replaced.
* Battery sucks, but if you (fork over more loot to) buy a higher capacity one it works fine.
My advice is to either get the Amaze or just wait until march/april when they will be rolling out an Ice Cream Sandwich phone for HTC. And to be fair, the phone is a "nice" phone, but it is not the best phone in its class spec wise.
Steve, while I appreciate the suggestion it's to late as I've already purc
hased the sensation. Honestly looking at the specs and in store the amaze didn't seem all that different. The only real improvement I saw is the camera button and that's not a very big deal to me. As for ics I thought sensation is on the list of phones getting it?
Mine has been good for me and the price at 275 is decent -if your into cm7 well as stated before its still alpha and it looks like they are more focus on CM9 at this time to bad your not a big fan of sense as there are many good builds running sense with great battery life-the phone is barely 6 months old here so there is much to come and yes it is on the list to get an OTA of the ICS
DUST under the screen and the power button issue are all I have faced I would check it before I do anything with a black background under sunlight to see if the are any specs in it
Mexdroid kicks ass for sure I have a friend running that on his nothing like that over here sad to say
For the money, that seems like a great deal. And you should get the OTA update as long as it's a valid ROM. I have flashed through about 6 different ROM's for the Sensation and settled on the InsertCoins one. Quick and easy, but still has Sense goodies I tend to like. Rooting it is EZ, and hardware should keep it viable for a while. You should enjoy this device!
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kingston73 said:
Steve, while I appreciate the suggestion it's to late as I've already purc
hased the sensation. Honestly looking at the specs and in store the amaze didn't seem all that different. The only real improvement I saw is the camera button and that's not a very big deal to me. As for ics I thought sensation is on the list of phones getting it?
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there are very big differences, spec wise with the phones. the top three are:
1. the Amaze has 16 gig memory on board whereas the Sensation only comes with 8 gig card. If you listen to music and watch movies like me that is huge.
2. the Amaze has a full gig of RAM whereas the Sensation only has 768. The standard for most high end smartphones is 1 gig and it does make a difference speed wise.
3. Last, but definitely not least, since most complaints about phones have to do with battery life, the Amaze has almost 200 more mA than the Sensation.
You can scratch my original reasons, those were just the tip of the iceberg, these are the reasons why I would steer people away from the phone.
HOWEVER, you already got it so its water under the bridge, enjoy my friend. Just wanted to clarify.
With regards to ICS, yes, from my understanding the Sensation will get it in four to five months. However, by that time, HTC and other companies will already have phones that will be made with it. I have an upgrade due to me in march so I will hold out and wait to see what the offerings are come June. I am sure that the ICS upgrade will work fine on the sensation, but if the are getting rid of buttons and overhauling the whole thing then I want the full experience.
Vibrant to Sensation
Prior to my Sensation I had a Samsung Vibrant rooted with CM7. Once I arrived on the Sensation forum it was evident the Sense Roms were by far the most used.
I have been using Android Revolution HD 4.1.8 Sense 3.5 (the latest) and I have never looked back. I recommend that you at least try one of these great Roms from a fantastic developer.
Good luck in whatever you choose. You have purchased a very nice phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269428
This is a decent one to start with... Some problems with gps (it takes a while to lock) and it is actually no longer supported by the developer... However, i still use it often, and its pretty slick. I would at least check it out if I were you.
Well, I've had my sensation for a day now, so far so good. Even though it's used it has a perfect screen, believe me I examined it thoroughly and couldn't find anything wrong with it. How long does the "dust under screen" issue generally take?
Also, so far so good as far as power button goes but it is going to take some time to get used to not having a trackpad to wake the phone. The speaker is equivalent if not a little better than my G2's, and compared to my OC'd G2 (usually had it around 1.4) it's faster in stock form.
I haven't rooted it yet, I'm going to use it for a month before I do that. From what I've read it seems most of you generally OC it to around 1.5?
I have a case on the way, it is definitely skinnier than the G2 and my big clumsy hands have a little trouble holding on to it so the case will be a definite improvement. For those of you who have a case on, have you noticed any decline in signal strength or gps?
As for my update question earlier, I shouldn't have worried. Within 10 minutes of putting my sim card in and turning it on I received the update to 1.50 (the latest one, right?) and it successfully installed with no issues. I still need to read up on what that update brought with it, but was one of the things a newer radio?
Sense is growing on me, for the past week I've been using my G2 with a sense 2.1 rom, so I haven't ruled that out for a DD for my sensation. I'm going to try out several different ones but I'll probably start out with Revolution and maybe Hypernosense and go from there.
Appreciate all the help, you and the G2 people are pretty nice. Seems like some of the forums have some angry people in them, it'd be an interesting sociological study to see the personalities and ages of various people matched with various phones.
advice: return it
i don't mean to be a party pooper, but return it while you can. get the SG2. i have one HTC sensation and the screen doesn't work anymore.it just turns on and that's about it. the Volume, another chapter entirely. works when it feels like. i have tried the ground contact thing, no luck. its a horrible phone. basically wasted £275 on it.
it hasnt worked well for one single day. its one issue after another. After 4 months, basically a brick with bright light in front
While I appreciate the thought, I'm going to be keeping it until/unless I run into any issues. As far as getting the sg2 goes, if I'd wanted to spend another $150 I could get one but that's a lot of money, at least for me. I did only get 8 hours of use out of the sensation today with stock battery, but I bought an Anker 1900 so I'll see what improvement that gives me in the next few days.
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While I appreciate the thought, I'm going to be keeping it until/unless I run into any issues. As far as getting the sg2 goes, if I'd wanted to spend another $150 I could get one but that's a lot of money, at least for me. I did only get 8 hours of use out of the sensation today with stock battery, but I bought an Anker 1900 so I'll see what improvement that gives me in the next few days.
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I don't mind it dude, the phone works well for me, has no dust or other issues, AHD Rom, MX video player works, calls are nice n clear, backstab hd works and music sounds good on my bose mie2 headphones.
Battery can be better, but I have a dock and 2 extra Anker batts off ebay for 30quid.
Well, welcome to the Sensation.
Re: a couple of things from your last post
The dust under the screen thing doesn't have to happen if you buy a case that covers the volume rocker. I use a plain jane Incipio case and it's served me well. No dust under the screen and since it's a little stiff it buffers the power button a little... hence the double press issue just doesn't happen to me unless I take the case off. Plus it's made of this odd rubbery compound stuff, so it bounces off of the floor nicely.
A lot of people OC to 1.5. Or you could do the complete opposite, dump the laggy Sense launcher and just underclock instead. I run my Sensation at 972 MHz with DX Launcher as default and it's great. Helps a lot with battery life for daily use.
1.50 update does not contain a new radio AFAIK.
When you're ready, look into custom kernels and undervolt as far as your phone can handle. Your battery will love you for it.

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