My wife is complaining about several issues with her Inspire (recent iPhone convert ), but the biggest baddest one is that the phone routinely will power itself off while unattended, and then it won't power back on until we pull the battery.
This has happened several times.
She doesn't have any unusual apps and the phone is unrooted running the regular AT&T software.
Anyone know what could be causing this? Is this likely hardware?
mr72 said:
My wife is complaining about several issues with her Inspire (recent iPhone convert ), but the biggest baddest one is that the phone routinely will power itself off while unattended, and then it won't power back on until we pull the battery.
This has happened several times.
She doesn't have any unusual apps and the phone is unrooted running the regular AT&T software.
Anyone know what could be causing this? Is this likely hardware?
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I don't know how long you've had it but it should be under warranty whatever the cause. My last refurb from ATT was given the remainder of the warranty from the original device. I would recommend a warranty replacement.
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No point in going through the hassle of a warranty replacement if this is a software issue. That's a lot of stuff to set up again once you get the replacement phone. Remember this phone is not rooted, no nandroid backups...
mr72 said:
No point in going through the hassle of a warranty replacement if this is a software issue. That's a lot of stuff to set up again once you get the replacement phone. Remember this phone is not rooted, no nandroid backups...
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Yes, but this doesn't sound like a software issue. You could try running the RUU. It's around here somewhere. This will reset the software to stock, straight from ATT. But again, you'll have to set everything back up. If it were mine I'd go for a warranty
I would rather spend time setting up a working phone than keep trying in vain to fix something that just isn't gonna be right. In either case, the next step is probably a factory data reset. A stock, un-rooted phone should not have any mods that would cause that. You don't undervolt or overclock. Market apps should not cause an overheat. It might be the battery, you could try that first, but if it powers back on after a pull, I don't think that's gonna be your problem.
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I know there was a rash of defective batteries out there, and that could very well be the problem. I saw that many people having suspected battery problems were able to get a new battery for free from HTC customer service. Worth a shot.
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I know there was a rash of defective batteries out there, and that could very well be the problem. I saw that many people having suspected battery problems were able to get a new battery for free from HTC customer service. Worth a shot.
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I agree, that's probably worth a try short of a complete replacement phone.
This was happening to me lower ur CPU settings and it's should work better or try to plug in the charger and it will come back hopefully
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Hi guys!
I'm Running Leedroid 2.3.0 on my sensation since 2.3.0 was released.
I'm CWM v4.0.1.4 (charging fixed! blue text) on it.
The Phone ran perfect until yesterday. I didn't overclock and didn't do any other special tweaks, i used it as it was.
Yesterday i used google maps navigation for about 5 - 10 minutes. after that the phone was really hot. I stopped navigation and killed google maps with the stock task manager.
I put the phone into my pocket, about 20min later i noticed the phone turned off. it was still a little bit warm.
Now the phone doesn't turn on anymore. when i plug in the charger, nothing happens. not even the orange led turns on. absolutely nothing.
i've tried all combinations off pulling the battery, left it out for som time and plug it in again. try to charge....
No chance - the phone seems to be dead.
I've got no idea if it is a hardware or a software problem. how can i find out?
What can i do?
I think my warranty is void by rooting and flashing the custom rom.
You should check first if the Battery or the phone is the problem. Try getting another battery that u can try out. If it is not working, then probably your phone is dead. However, I would replace it with warranty. Since it's dead they can not turn it on and check if u modded it. Maybe they can detected that if they would take out the mainboard and connect it to some JTAG device, but I'm 99.9% sure they will not do this. Imagine the costs of doing this with every phone they get for replacement... It's not easy to detect if the Software on the phone was manipulated once the phone is dead due to a hardware defect.
What you can also try ist connect it to usb port on PC and try turning on. Does the PC detect anything?
PC doesn't detect anything.
I tried another battery today, same problem.
Do you think it is a hardware problem?
It may have gotten so hot it damaged some of the hardware. Like he said up there ^ take it to Tmobile and ask them to replace it. These things are notorious for overheating anyways so your story will be believable.
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Vineares said:
It may have gotten so hot it damaged some of the hardware. Like he said up there ^ take it to Tmobile and ask them to replace it. These things are notorious for overheating anyways so your story will be believable.
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agreed. warranty, warranty, warranty
i think it is best for you to bring back to the tmobile store to get it check or get a new replacement. dont answer too much questions if they ask because they might try to look for away to void your warranty or refuse for service.
I'll bring it to t-mobile tomorrow.
I got a new one.
T-Mobile replaced it.
glad they did!
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glad they did!
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thats a good news
My Phone is dead!!! I came into work and all was well. I turned on the Mobile Internet and turned off the Wifi and then it froze. I waited and waited. No change. I took the batter cover off and removed the battery. Put it back in and put the cover back on. Now my phone wont charge or turn on. The battery was at 50% when it was on. I just flashed to a new rom (see sig) on the 30th but haven't touched the radio.
I need help because I do not get a replacement phone until July!!
EDIT: I got my phone up and running. I removed battery and SD card and put them back in. The phone is booted and charging.
1. Take out the battery plug in the power only and then power it on. Hold down the power button for a long time. Remember this phone will not power up without the cover on.
2. Don't worry you can exchange it for a new one.
3. Don't freak out its only a phone.
just curiosity...the micro sd have something to do with the phone is not booting? i think no, but ask just is case...
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just curiosity...the micro sd have something to do with the phone is not booting? i think no, but ask just is case...
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That SD card should not have been the cause for his problem...without some sort of a log for when the problem intially happened it'll be tough to really diagnose the exact issue that happened...either way I'm glad you're up and running! now that I'm curious though, did you mess around with any UV or OC settings? or flash a new kernel or script?
I wish I could find a log. I have no idea why what I did caused the phone to work. But to my knowledge since flashing to this Rom, I have not under volted or oced the phone.
Yes... I realize it is a phone but it's an expensive thing to replace when you have no extra money to buy a new phone at cost.
Ty for the help!
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Aaron78 said:
I wish I could find a log. I have no idea why what I did caused the phone to work. But to my knowledge since flashing to this Rom, I have not under volted or oced the phone.
Yes... I realize it is a phone but it's an expensive thing to replace when you have no extra money to buy a new phone at cost.
Ty for the help!
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no worries man, logs are difficult because unless you're running one when the problem happens, the log itself is useless so unless you had prior knowledge that this was gonna happen, really can't expect you to have one lol, hence the big issue with logs haha! When you do battery pulls, it's best to wait like a minute before putting it back in and restarting, I don't know if there is a scientific reason behind it but I figure it's best to give it time to fully settle before you try restarting.
Thanks for the reply and the tip.
The main reason you want to leave the battery out for a bit is to give everything a chance to discharge and go completely to sleep. I have found with smart phones that usually 60 to 120 seconds is enough. Cars on the other hand can sometimes take hours!
If you need an activity log to diagnose what happened, maybe Carrier IQ can help.
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If you need an activity log to diagnose what happened, maybe Carrier IQ can help.
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I lol'ed. hard.
Glad its working!
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My fiance is having problems with her phone randomly rebooting. I just updated it to the most recent firmware update, so that shouldn't be the problem, but something obviously is. She wasn't getting much out of her battery life either, usually only a couple hours or so.
What can I do about it to keep her from spending money we don't have on a new phone, other than root it? She won't let me root it and set it up like mine, mostly because she's stubborn.
tatonka_hero said:
My fiance is having problems with her phone randomly rebooting. I just updated it to the most recent firmware update, so that shouldn't be the problem, but something obviously is. She wasn't getting much out of her battery life either, usually only a couple hours or so.
What can I do about it to keep her from spending money we don't have on a new phone, other than root it? She won't let me root it and set it up like mine, mostly because she's stubborn.
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root it when shes asleep or explain the firmware update broke her phone blame it on the software and youre never at fault
JKILO said:
root it when shes asleep or explain the firmware update broke her phone blame it on the software and youre never at fault
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haha, i wish that would work.
Trade her phones tell her you unrooted your phone so she could have it and the root hers. Just an Idea
It looks like she's even got to pull the battery to get the thing to start back up when it shuts down. The charging port seems loose to me, but it charges the battery just fine so I'm not sure that's part of the problem.
tatonka_hero said:
It looks like she's even got to pull the battery to get the thing to start back up when it shuts down. The charging port seems loose to me, but it charges the battery just fine so I'm not sure that's part of the problem.
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Try a different micro usb cable.
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Try a different micro usb cable.
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I did. It still felt loose even using my cable, which doesn't feel loose in my phone.
She won't want to go through the hassle of talking to tech support to get a new phone, and they'll try to make her take it to a repair center
I put her battery in my phone for the day, and it just shut down, so that was part of the problem.
She said her phone was still dead in like 4 hours today, and that was using my battery which I've had very good luck with.
I think she uses her phone a LOT for facebook and texting, but 4 hours still seems awfully short for battery life
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I put her battery in my phone for the day, and it just shut down, so that was part of the problem.
She said her phone was still dead in like 4 hours today, and that was using my battery which I've had very good luck with.
I think she uses her phone a LOT for facebook and texting, but 4 hours still seems awfully short for battery life
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Buy these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005YTOV6G/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
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Buy these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005YTOV6G/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
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now she says she didn't use her phone at all this morning and it only got 4 hours (on my good battery). I think she's got a rogue app or something using a ton of battery, but it doesn't ever show up in the battery stats. there's no way she'd let me do a factory reset on it again lol.
I'll send her the link on the batteries, but she won't buy them I'm sure. She wants a new phone too badly now.
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now she says she didn't use her phone at all this morning and it only got 4 hours (on my good battery). I think she's got a rogue app or something using a ton of battery, but it doesn't ever show up in the battery stats. there's no way she'd let me do a factory reset on it again lol.
I'll send her the link on the batteries, but she won't buy them I'm sure. She wants a new phone too badly now.
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Possibly, or your batteries might be a year old and starting to go.
Trust me buy those batteries. They're great. And only $7.
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Possibly, or your batteries might be a year old and starting to go.
Trust me buy those batteries. They're great. And only $7.
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I figured out what I think was wrong with her other battery. The contacts were set too deep inside the battery casing, so any bump at the wrong angle caused them to lose connection. That's why I don't trust second hand batteries, no matter how good other people say they are.
Both her original battery and my original battery work perfectly fine in my phone, both give me a day and a half. So I know it's not the batteries, it's something wrong with her phone.
Heck, I even offered to switch phones with her, and she said she didn't want mine even though it's exactly the same phone and even newer.
women, just can't please them.
Try
Backup
Factory reset
Take the newest update.
My wife has a stock shift huge battery improvement
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tatonka_hero said:
women, just can't please them.
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I know all too well. Take it in to a sprint repair center and have it repaired, if they cannot repair it they will order you a replacement phone.
Make sure you have TEP on your plan before you go in.
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I know all too well. Take it in to a sprint repair center and have it repaired, if they cannot repair it they will order you a replacement phone.
Make sure you have TEP on your plan before you go in.
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She's a sprint employee so she's got somewhat different rules on that mess. I'd rather they just send her a new phone since we're too far from a repair center, or so I told Sprint the last 4 times I had to replace my Shift lol.
tatonka_hero said:
She's a sprint employee so she's got somewhat different rules on that mess. I'd rather they just send her a new phone since we're too far from a repair center, or so I told Sprint the last 4 times I had to replace my Shift lol.
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If she's a sprint employee she should get the benefits of the Sprint wireless advantage club and so should you.
Details here:
http://www.sprint.com/landings/advantage_club/?ECID=vanity:advantageclub
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If she's a sprint employee she should get the benefits of the Sprint wireless advantage club and so should you.
Details here:
http://www.sprint.com/landings/advantage_club/?ECID=vanity:advantageclub
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yeah, I know. Doesn't change much when it comes to problem phones other than the fact that you absolutely have to go to a Sprint owned repair center and not a store run by another company. That's where the distance factor comes in and the working with tech support to convince them it's too far to drive lol
So there's someone selling a used sensation on cl for a fair price. However he told me now he doesn't want to sell because it is having the following issue
The phone has been randomly shutting down, and when I turn it back up, the battery is almost dead even though it was fully charged.
What might the problem be and what would it cost to fix?
Thanks
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So there's someone selling a used sensation on cl for a fair price. However he told me now he doesn't want to sell because it is having the following issue
The phone has been randomly shutting down, and when I turn it back up, the battery is almost dead even though it was fully charged.
What might the problem be and what would it cost to fix?
Thanks
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Random shutdowns could be due to:
ROM/Firmware
Battery
Hardware
Steps to find out the culprit:
Do factory reset
Flash another ROM
Re-flash firmware
Re-caliberate battery
Replace battery
If the problem still persist, then it needs repair.
You could also try to search for another 'reasonable' seller...
Sounds like I better avoid it if hardware may be an issue...
Probably the battery. If it was hardware I think that on turning on again the battery would still read full.
Use it to your advantage. Drop the price further.
Justify it, you're taking a risk, you'd have to buy a new battery, "take it to a technician", etc
I've posted this in the CM9 Alpha6 thread but didnt have any response so trying here since it may not be ROM related. I'm S-ON and have been running A6 for 5-6 weeks and besides the battery drain and random reboots it was ok. Two days ago I tried the WiFi tethering for the first time and it work well for a few hours. However, suddenly it rebooted 3 times in a loop and went dead after the last reboot. I tried all combinations of pressing buttons (power, hboot, recovery...) , replacing battery, charger and so on and it just doenst power up and doesnt show any ligths. Connected to the laptop it doenst see the phone since is not powered on. The battery doesn't look swollen or defective and it was fully charged when the phone went dead.
I went yesterday to the TMobile store and tried with a new battery and didnt do anything. Also tried different chargers and USB to laptop, nothing, no response.
Any ideas why the phone went dead? Is it definitely gone? Should i add it to the collection of paperweights?
Thanks a lot
Also, is there anyway to wipe the phone's data? TMobile told me i can get a replacement but im worried all my data is in the dead phone ill be sending back
In almost ALL circumstances if you can't get in, they can't either. At least until it's sent back and you already have your new phone. Then HTC doesn't really have the time OR inclination to do forensic system analysis of every phone and will just go about replacing its guts & sending it back out as a refurb.
It having been a commercial "semi-flop" I persoanlly believe they will be happy when they all die and we all shut the hell up about ICS & JB. LOL
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It having been a commercial "semi-flop" I persoanlly believe they will be happy when they all die and we all shut the hell up about ICS & JB. LOL
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I dont worry about TMo or HTC bringing ICS/JB for any of my devices, since that will mean again getting read of crapware, settings....personally i prefer any of the multiple ROMs and thats part of the Android beauty...
Now, since i got the replacement i have to worry about sending my old phone back and it ending up resold without being wiped....do you know any part of the phone where a screwdriver tip (or hammer) will ensure the phone memory is gone?
If you could get it to come back on even just to HBoot I could tell you how to fry it BUT it would just take it back to where it is right now but with the partition tables borked. I can understand your concerns but I honestly think you're worrying about something that won't happen. Even if they were to use the internal memory again (IF they could) they would do a partition repair & reformat before reinstalling the stock ROM. I would be concerned though about sending one back with physical damage. That COULD turn into a "GOTCHA". KWIM?
Judging by your description, I'd say your phone has a hardware problem. If no lights are coming on, and there's absolutely no response, it's either the motherboard or the display.
But nothing HTC can't handle. They should be able to fix it and send it back no problem. Very rarely will they send you a new phone. They always try to save the phone you send in.
For software, they can probably restore it using their factory special cable connection (forgot what it's called).
That being the case it would still be sent back out to someone else after the repairs. TMobile will send a replacement to a customer and the borked one is sent back to them in the same box the replacement came to you in. At least that's what's happened to everyone I know (including myself) that has gone thru TMobile instead of having to deal directly with HTC.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ +1 couldn't have said it better myself
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I've posted this in the CM9 Alpha6 thread but didnt have any response so trying here since it may not be ROM related. I'm S-ON and have been running A6 for 5-6 weeks and besides the battery drain and random reboots it was ok. Two days ago I tried the WiFi tethering for the first time and it work well for a few hours. However, suddenly it rebooted 3 times in a loop and went dead after the last reboot. I tried all combinations of pressing buttons (power, hboot, recovery...) , replacing battery, charger and so on and it just doenst power up and doesnt show any ligths. Connected to the laptop it doenst see the phone since is not powered on. The battery doesn't look swollen or defective and it was fully charged when the phone went dead.
I went yesterday to the TMobile store and tried with a new battery and didnt do anything. Also tried different chargers and USB to laptop, nothing, no response.
Any ideas why the phone went dead? Is it definitely gone? Should i add it to the collection of paperweights?
Thanks a lot
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were you on cwm 4.0.0.9?
mattlowry said:
were you on cwm 4.0.0.9?
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I was wondering the VERY same thing! The old dead battery = borked phone trick on 4.0.0.9?
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I was wondering the VERY same thing! The old dead battery = borked phone trick on 4.0.0.9?
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I used to freak out when my battery was low and I had the no off charging recovery.
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were you on cwm 4.0.0.9?
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No, it was 5.0.2.7
gtmaster303 said:
Judging by your description, I'd say your phone has a hardware problem. If no lights are coming on, and there's absolutely no response, it's either the motherboard or the display.
But nothing HTC can't handle. They should be able to fix it and send it back no problem. Very rarely will they send you a new phone. They always try to save the phone you send in.
For software, they can probably restore it using their factory special cable connection (forgot what it's called).
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I think you are right and there is some HW problem, I was wondering if it had to do with me having the WiFi tethering on since i just switched it on for the first time 3-4 before it went dead and the phone was hotter than usual. Maybe nothing to do but i thought it could be a possibility
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That being the case it would still be sent back out to someone else after the repairs. TMobile will send a replacement to a customer and the borked one is sent back to them in the same box the replacement came to you in. At least that's what's happened to everyone I know (including myself) that has gone thru TMobile instead of having to deal directly with HTC.
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Just as an update and to post my experience replacing the phone; since i had insurance, TMo sent me the a new phone ... in less than 24h !!!, seems if you report before 5pm you get the new phone in your hands the AM of the next business day, pretty good.
The phone came on a special package, with return labels, but without SIM, SD, battery or back cover, just the "carcass". Put the old phone sim and old battery in and i worked fine....then spent the next hour unlocking, recovery, flashing ROM and updating apps+data....done and my new phone is practically the same as the old was.
Now i have 7 days to return the old one in the same package or they will charge me $300....probably im paranoid about the data in the old phone, but after reading http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/apple-amazon-mat-honan-hacking/all/ i immediately went and added 2-step verification to my google account...
So in summary, very good replacing process from TMo (if you have insurance), and added extra security to my GAccount...for the rest, just crossing fingers that nothing bad happens in the future
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I used to freak out when my battery was low and I had the no off charging recovery.
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Maybe I just missed it Strapped but I never even knew about that issue with MoDaCo until I had already moved on to 5.0.2.7. Then I liked to have crapped my pants!
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restopi said:
Just as an update and to post my experience replacing the phone; since i had insurance, TMo sent me the a new phone ... in less than 24h !!!, seems if you report before 5pm you get the new phone in your hands the AM of the next business day, pretty good.
The phone came on a special package, with return labels, but without SIM, SD, battery or back cover, just the "carcass". Put the old phone sim and old battery in and i worked fine....then spent the next hour unlocking, recovery, flashing ROM and updating apps+data....done and my new phone is practically the same as the old was.
Now i have 7 days to return the old one in the same package or they will charge me $300....probably im paranoid about the data in the old phone, but after reading http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/apple-amazon-mat-honan-hacking/all/ i immediately went and added 2-step verification to my google account...
So in summary, very good replacing process from TMo (if you have insurance), and added extra security to my GAccount...for the rest, just crossing fingers that nothing bad happens in the future
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It's sure good to hear that it all went so smoothly for you! :good: