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HTC battery improvement procedure

There is a battery conditioning procedure recommended by HTC - probably would work with any battery
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly:
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well
The above is a cut-and-paste from the G2x forum, which also was a cut-and-paste.

Is this for any HTC device or for Sensation or any LiION in general?

Is this only for one time or everyday?
Personally, I don't think it will work.
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one time.
it takes a while to do so do the 8 hours overnight, but it did improve my battery life a lot and same with everyone in the g2x forum who tried it. also it was said to do a factory reset before doing this procedure. with a full charge. but it was not part of the procedure that HTC made , the OP post. a factory reset is always good to do on a new phone IMHO though.

This should definitely work. Batteries develop a 'memory' and I always go through a similar process when I first get new devices. I discharge them completely. Then turn them off to charge completely and then discharge completely once more before normal use.

Battery "memory" only applies to the Nickel Cadmium days. Lithium Ion batteries do not have memory effects:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/lithium-ion-battery.htm
"If you completely discharge a lithium-ion battery, it is ruined."

that is correct. li-ion batteries do not have "the memory effect". but this does seem to help setup the battery for best performance. it's been tested and tried at the g2x forum where i came from, and this method was released from HTC. someone just pasted it over on the g2x general forums since initially the battery had some serious issues. try it and repost. whats the worst that could happen? full battery?

This is called bump charging ave last time I checked nobody officially endorses it because it ruins the lifespan of LI-Ion batteries...
Cheek your sources dude. If HTC recommended it you wouldn't have to cut and paste it from forum posts to disseminate the idea. They would just put it in the User's Manuals for their devices.
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Plus, what is HTC doing making battery recommendations for LG devices (G2x)?

i tried this, it helps. here is the original post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 it was from an evo4g user
ps. i think that the phone some how is not giving the % of the battery correctly. i have notice if i charge the phone and as soon it says its charge i unplug it, the battery drains quickly. but if i let it plugged about an hour after its says that is fully charge the power consumption its really good. it last in average like 16 hours with normal use.

BonesRed said:
This is called bump charging ave last time I checked nobody officially endorses it because it ruins the lifespan of LI-Ion batteries...
Cheek your sources dude. If HTC recommended it you wouldn't have to cut and paste it from forum posts to disseminate the idea. They would just put it in the User's Manuals for their devices.
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if you have a problem then don't do it. im reposting because it works for me and it was for HTC. it probably did come from the evo forum because it was a repost on the G2x. they did not say anything about a g2x. if you trolls have a problem then ignore the thread, move on, and F*ck off. im here to help people with what worked for me, and many many others. get off of XDA. we don't need people like you bringing the site down. i've known too many devs who bounced because of people like you. get out or shut up. especially if you're just here to argue with no evidence of your own.
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either. he may have to original post. ive seen this a few places. and everything but the last line on the OP is copied and pasted from a g2x forum post.
p.s. i didn't say it was officially their stand point. my understanding is it was something people at HTC and tried and tired and seemed to work. actually it sorta says that in the OP in the blue at the bottom....

i wish we had more control of our profiles, posts, threads. that way i could ignore/ban/delete people who act like that.

i think you're right bro. just read that link. seems like that appears like the original. more info there too. im gonna save that. thanks

Dolphinwigs said:
if you have a problem then don't do it. im reposting because it works for me and it was for HTC. it probably did come from the evo forum because it was a repost on the G2x. they did not say anything about a g2x. if you trolls have a problem then ignore the thread, move on, and F*ck off. im here to help people with what worked for me, and many many others. get off of XDA. we don't need people like you bringing the site down. i've known too many devs who bounced because of people like you. get out or shut up. especially if you're just here to argue with no evidence of your own.
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either. he may have to original post. ive seen this a few places. and everything but the last line on the OP is copied and pasted from a g2x forum post.
p.s. i didn't say it was officially their stand point. my understanding is it was something people at HTC and tried and tired and seemed to work. actually it sorta says that in the OP in the blue at the bottom....
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Actually you are the troll and ACTUALLY your post does say that it's recommended by HTC and actually this isn't news. It's bump charging and actually it means that you'll have to replace your battery sooner. And actually it's one thing to say that something works and one thing to say that it's a recommendation from the manufacturer of the phone.
Trollaz dey gon troll
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This procedure does make your battery last longer that one time you bump-charged it, but it unfortunately shortens the batteries life...
Here it is in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
No need to fight about it

Dolphinwigs said:
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either.
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Are you calling me a troll because I post a link about battery facts?

Hey OP, thanks for the post. It all depends on your preference anyway. Btw, do you really think we needa factory reset our device? Cos I got a lot of apps installed in my device which are not from market. Thanks in advance.

zmfl said:
This procedure does make your battery last longer that one time you bump-charged it, but it unfortunately shortens the batteries life...
Here it is in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
No need to fight about it
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Very mixed bag "analysis". For so much effort he failed to answer the most basic questions.
Does bump charging the battery once provide a capacity advantage that persists? If so, how much of an advantage? Is it the 15% quoted figure? If doing it once only lasts a while then how often should it be done? And how much would that actually shorten the battery life? If the normal battery life is 1 year, and I can get 15% more capacity each day but shorten the life by 2 months I would bump charge. If it cuts the battery life in half I would still be tempted, since OEM replacement batteries aren't that expensive.
What would be useful is a graph of bump charging frequency, percent increased storage capacity, and battery life. With that information we could make rational decisions.

When we can root our phones, it's best to charge the phone on the new rom and delete batterystats.bin and let it drain to 0%
That way android knows what is 100% and what is 0% and how many volts it is.

Dolphinwigs said:
i wish we had more control of our profiles, posts, threads. that way i could ignore/ban/delete people who act like that.
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I think that you should edit your OP so that it does not say that bump charging is recommended by HTC, especially because it can and will lead to damaging your LI-Ion battery's overall lifespan and because it simply isn't true.
This is akin to creating a thread called "HTC phone improvement procedure" and then telling everyone that HTC recommends that they flush their phones down the toilet. Most people probably wouldn't believe you but it'd be pretty terrible if someone did simply because they believe that an experienced forum member wouldn't post mistruths that could lead to damaging their device or components of it, and claim that HTC recommends it.

Android phone with the best battery life?

Hey guys, I need a phone which can last me a whole day. I've got 2 email accounts that need to be synced every 15 minutes. And I need alot of battery life to answer my emails and browse. Which android phone would be best for me? My carrier is Wind which uses the same bands as T-mobile.
Here's a list of phones supported by my carrier
GSM Arena
Thank you

you are only require to read the emails or replying it?
if only needing to read it, a small screen like 3 inch is enough for you to read... then iphone might be a good choice...
if you need to reply the mail, a bigger screen would be more convenient to type.
i have a galaxy note and i try to use it to last a full day everyday.
i on 3G whole day and i can get around 12 to 14 hours standby time in where the screen on time is accumulated to 4 hours...
you can get a thick battery, a mugen 4000mah (compare to stock 2500mah) sure you can get more screen on time with it.
galaxy S2 also has bigger spare battery. 1650 stock 2000mah spare.

The defy has a good battery...
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Any smartphone barely lasts a day under heavy usage.
Just get one you like alot and get a spare battery + wall charger.
After alls its not an iphone .

Galaxy Note has the best battery, and for me is the best phone too

Phones without removable batteries?

As I'm due for an upgrade soon I'm researching upcoming options. I'm really liking the idea of the HTC One X... however, it doesn't have a removable battery. With as many times as I've bricked my captivate, I don't know how I would have fixed it without being able to remove the battery
One of the reasons I don't want an iPhone is for that very reason, I hate being limited to one battery or not being able to pop it out if needed.
You guys think there's any real reason for concern? It seems more phones are coming out this way, it makes for a more attractive, maybe even sturdy, design... but I don't know if I care that much

There is no way I'd go with a non-removable battery on android. It's just not stable enough.

dislike non-removable-battery phones. what should we do if those phones need restarting because of stopping working

Phones like that have hard key resets. Actually even those with removable batts have hard resets with the right button press. The main issue with a non-removable battery besides resets is if it just doesn't have enough capacity cause then you're just in the dead zone =p

You would think that they would at least include better battery. Razr maxx have 3300mah and it is not much more bulkier, so I think at least 2000mah should not be very hard to achieve.

I hope that new generations of phones, some are made ​​up mainly by the reset button and easy ability to change the battery with a more powerful even at peak performance, 3g and wifi internet apps.

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this wasn't, strictly speaking, a question, it was a starting point for discussion

Removable Battery
From my limited experiance an Android phone with a non-removable battery wouldn't be for me. If you want to experiment with roms and kernels, pulling the battery is a must. Also it's hard to put in a higher amp battery or install a replacement.

DrDubzz said:
this wasn't, strictly speaking, a question, it was a starting point for discussion
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He doesn't care. He has found his calling in life. He is "Guardian of the Question Mark"!

z33dev33l said:
There is no way I'd go with a non-removable battery on android. It's just not stable enough.
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Aside from disagreeing with it not being stable why not have an android with non removable battery when there's always the hard reset with power button.
Dave
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I know the iphone has a feature that if it freezes, you hold the home and sleep button until it turns off (this was present in the original and iphone 3g as far as i know). That simulates a battery pull. But if i was thinking of buying a new android phone and its battery didn't pop out, it would be a deal breaker.

[Q] Should I preorder? Battery issues still exist?

I was going to pre-order this device when it goes up for preorder on the 27th.
The only concern I have is the battery life. I'm coming from my HTC One M7ul and it isn't getting that great of battery life..
1. Does the OnePlus One have better battery life than the One m7 (for anyone that has had a M7)?
2. Has the battery drain issues been fixed with this phone?
I don't want to get stuck with a phone at has worse battery than my previous. I've only heard of "battery drain" issues from some forum posts.
Some critics say that the battery is "awesome" or "very good", but when I hear it from users that actually use the phone daily, they said it isn't that great... somehow even with a 3100mAh battery... strange.

What battery drain are you talking about?

oneplus said:
What battery drain are you talking about?
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Ummm...
battery drain = the battery doesn't last very long throughout the day, drains quicker than it should? lol

Chubby_Skunk said:
Ummm...
battery drain = the battery doesn't last very long throughout the day, drains quicker than it should? lol
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Ive heard about a few, but in most cases its about the user having unnecessary apps on.

Chubby_Skunk said:
Ummm...
battery drain = the battery doesn't last very long throughout the day, drains quicker than it should? lol
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Where are you getting this information? The battery and CPU combo on this device yields phenomenal battery life. It's light years better than the HTC.
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Peri- said:
Ive heard about a few, but in most cases its about the user having unnecessary apps on.
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Oh okay, makes sense then. Thank you!

timmaaa said:
Where are you getting this information? The battery and CPU combo on this device yields phenomenal battery life. It's light years better than the HTC.
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From OnePlus One forums and here at XDA...
But yeah a 3100mAh battery w/ a 801 SOC should be pretty good.
Wouldn't doubt it would be better than the m7. Thank you!

No issues on battery life for me. Better than anything I've had before.
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Chubby_Skunk said:
From OnePlus One forums and here at XDA...
But yeah a 3100mAh battery w/ a 801 SOC should be pretty good.
Wouldn't doubt it would be better than the m7. Thank you!
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Keep in mind that battery drain issues are usually user generated, and are not the fault of the phone or software/firmware. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this device to anyone.
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Chubby_Skunk said:
I was going to pre-order this device when it goes up for preorder on the 27th.
The only concern I have is the battery life. I'm coming from my HTC One M7ul and it isn't getting that great of battery life..
1. Does the OnePlus One have better battery life than the One m7 (for anyone that has had a M7)?
2. Has the battery drain issues been fixed with this phone?
I don't want to get stuck with a phone at has worse battery than my previous. I've only heard of "battery drain" issues from some forum posts.
Some critics say that the battery is "awesome" or "very good", but when I hear it from users that actually use the phone daily, they said it isn't that great... somehow even with a 3100mAh battery... strange.
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Got to admit when I read this I was like what the hell is this guy talking about. What were there like 3 people who complained about battery life. You got to be kidding me when people are posting 5-10hrs SOT.
Man listen just get the damn phone and you will love it...Thats it. some of the stuff I read in here makes me really wonder do you people really read up on this phone and see all the positive stuff said or do you just feel like creating a thread.....
My bad I know I know say what you want about me... Its late and I had to vent

playya said:
Got to admit when I read this I was like what the hell is this guy talking about. What were there like 3 people who complained about battery life. You got to be kidding me when people are posting 5-10hrs SOT.
Man listen just get the damn phone and you will love it...Thats it. some of the stuff I read in here makes me really wonder do you people really read up on this phone and see all the positive stuff said or do you just feel like creating a thread.....
My bad I know I know say what you want about me... Its late and I had to vent
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haha thanks buddy.
I've been reading non stop to find the next best phone after i loved my M7.
This is the one I think.
A Cyanogenmod phone is always #1 to me. Especially being only $349 for 64GB model!!!

roms and kernels?

anyone know why there are no roms or kernels for this phone? wonder if it's because of a locked bootleader? that and the fact that the battery life sux balls i think i might return this. i love the camera and the feel of it but it's still rather laggy even after the newest update
thanks all

No roms and kernels because no custom recovery.
No custom recovery because locked bootloader.
Not sure why you're getting poor battery performance.
Battery life is brilliant for me, I can go a whole day of normal use (my normal use is probably heavy use to most people) and still have 40% when I go to bed .
What kind of apps are you using to get such lag and battery drain?

Yea, i see everyone complaining about the battery life but i have had no issues with battery life or drainage.

that was with just the basics installed. 100 percent when i start the day around 8:30 the used it to stream pandora for an hour on the way to work. then it sat in my pocked unused and the battery was at 15 percent by 1.
this is even with my battery saver proggie running that cuts of the wifi and cell antenna's when screen is off. no idea im assuming the battery is defective. but now that i know there's not gonna be roms and such i think i might just say fark it and get the m9. i see that there are already tons of roms for that. and i came from a og 3vo so i recognize all the developers.
it's just a bummer i love the curve and the camera on this thing. this is also my third gflex 2 since i got it 3 days ago. the first one just started bootlooping after fifteen mins, the second did the same and now the third seems to work good but the battery life is horrible.
tis a predicament rofl.
thanks for the info gang
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If that's the case then you might be right about a defective battery.
Either that or the screen is coming on in your pocket, you'd probably notice your skin burning as the phone heats up though.
Have you checked Settings> Battery> Battery Usage, just to see what's using the most battery?
If you're not happy with the flex 2, the m9 is a great phone.
I got my hands on a prototype about 6 months before release, the only reason I didn't get one is that it just didn't feel right in my hand.

Battery life compare to my old Flex 1 is crap. I know its smaller and better screen resolution, but still my old G2 had better battery life than Flex 2 with same screen resolution and battery.

OP should go cr8 it

wangateur said:
anyone know why there are no roms or kernels for this phone? wonder if it's because of a locked bootleader? that and the fact that the battery life sux balls i think i might return this. i love the camera and the feel of it but it's still rather laggy even after the newest update
thanks all
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Moved here, read the Forum Rules on posting.

if no one will post earlier, going to start porting in approximately two weeks, when my phone arrives.

can't ship my G Flex 2 with Express mail, not enough money there, so need to wait for a month, or more
sorry, guys.

dark.wizard said:
can't ship my G Flex 2 with Express mail, not enough money there, so need to wait for a month, or more
sorry, guys.
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Tell us when your phone arrives and when you'll start porting... We all wait quietly