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I've had my NS for over 2 months now - love it. Since I bought it, I've been running completely stock android 2.3.3
Like most on this forum, I like to tweak settings and make improvements.
I just want to know if that if I were to root and load CM7 rom on the NS would it improve the speed/battery? (they are the most important factors to me)
Yes it would improve your battery life. Especially when you flash a custom kernel. With this combination, I currently get 24 hours+ with maybe ~30% remaining.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/about/features are some of the highlights of the features.
Some benefits on top of my head:
Flashing custom kernel (I suggest you do, its easy)
- Voodoo Sound (Better sound quality, you'd be amazed)
- Voodoo Color (Don't like 2.3.3 colors? Change it back to <2.3.3)
- Overclock (If you're into that) or Underclock
- CFS or BFS
Kernel.. i'd go with Netarchy's 1.2.8 CFS
CM7 Benefits
- Widget Folders (When you add a widget, no more 5 widgets showing Beautiful Widgets.. instead its in a folder; better organization)
- Power Widgets (Notification Pulldown)
- If you use your NS as a music player, it adds a lot of features such as lock screen controls. Using volume rocker to adjust volume while phone screen not on.
- Custom Boot Screens
- Sync with Facebook
Rest are here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=CyanogenMod_Settings
Thanks for your tips. Before I had my NS I had modded my Hero beyond belief!
Would it be easy to send the phone back to a stock ROM and stock kernel? Lets say I had to send the phone back to Samsung to get warranty repaired.
Following on to that question, which is the best way to root?
How's the stability of CM7 on the NS. I just upgraded from my G1 to the NS yesterday, and I was thinking of just running stock until CM7 goes final.
JTopaz said:
Thanks for your tips. Before I had my NS I had modded my Hero beyond belief!
Would it be easy to send the phone back to a stock ROM and stock kernel? Lets say I had to send the phone back to Samsung to get warranty repaired.
Following on to that question, which is the best way to root?
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Yes all you have to do is download a nandroid backup of 2.3.3 or whatever that is stock unrooted. And thats it.
Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
@Apre: It's stable. The latest nightly (#19) is more stable than RC2 itself. And dang G1 lol, I upgraded from a G1 last year in Juneish. Looking back on that phone now, the screens so small.
I have CM7 RC2 and i find that my battery drains faster. How do I flash Netarchy kernel?
Put it in SD and update it? or do I do it the ADB way by putting the kernel in the tools folder and with command prompt?
I ran stock for quite awhile after buying this phone because I didn't see any need for custom ROMs with vanilla Android. But I finally decided to give it a shot, and I'd never go back. Vanilla is great, but CM7 and all the other Custom Roms for the Nexus S (Axura, Modaco, etc) all bring more great features and customizations. If nothing else, however, I'd at least root and flash a custom kernel with stock - so you can have some overclock goodness
Edit: In specific reference to your post's questions, I run Axura, and I get both better battery life AND what seems to be a snappier phone (Axura has Netarchy 1.2.5 kernel baked right in). On CM7 I didn't notice much of a speed boost, and I think my battery life might have actually been a little worse, but CM7 packs in a lot of extra features. So it all comes down to preference.
apreichner said:
How's the stability of CM7 on the NS. I just upgraded from my G1 to the NS yesterday, and I was thinking of just running stock until CM7 goes final.
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CM7 will never go final, until its time for CM8. its always being inproved.
cyberdentist said:
I have CM7 RC2 and i find that my battery drains faster. How do I flash Netarchy kernel?
Put it in SD and update it? or do I do it the ADB way by putting the kernel in the tools folder and with command prompt?
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yes. put it in SD, boot into CWR
flash .zip
and you're done.. its the same as flashing a ROM
and as far as battery life.. make sure you disabled latitude (automatic and that other feature) in CM7.. not sure if its still working even though if latitude is disabled, id disable it anyway
apreichner said:
How's the stability of CM7 on the NS. I just upgraded from my G1 to the NS yesterday, and I was thinking of just running stock until CM7 goes final.
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I was so happy with my stock NS that I'd not bothered with CM (my ROM of choice on Nexus 1) until just two days ago. In the first 24 hours I had two issues that I've not had, or at least not seen in a very long time.
First issue - I was at 84% battery after about 4 hours. Put the phone to the side of my desk and 3 hours later it was 100% drained to 0 battery juice. Status graph showed nothing unusual, not long wakelocks, no time without cell signal, screen on only 1.5 hours.
Second issue - 24 hours after install, while listening to a podcast with my long time app for those that's not given crash issues, the playback goes into a constant stutter loop for about 30 seconds, then the phone rebooted.
EDIT: a third issue, happening right as I type this. I'm happily tethered away on my laptop via the NS with CM7, but I just went to check something on the screen and the phone is locked up...won't respond to power button. Screen is black, menu buttons are lit. Still tethering me, though.
Seems there are still some slight issues. I did full wipe/format before installing and am on the stock CM7 kernel still.
cyberdentist said:
I have CM7 RC2 and i find that my battery drains faster. How do I flash Netarchy kernel?
Put it in SD and update it? or do I do it the ADB way by putting the kernel in the tools folder and with command prompt?
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It's an update.zip file you flash from CW recovery. I agree CM7 appears to be harder on the battery.
simms22 said:
CM7 will never go final, until its time for CM8. its always being inproved.
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I suppose that you're technically correct that CM mods never go final because they're always improved, but all prior iterations of CM at least got out of BETA/ReleaseCandidate status at some point.
I fully expect that CM7 will eventually see a version that doesn't have a beta, nightly or RC tacked on to the end of it. Then we'll see all the .x releases with their betas/rc, etc.
I was going to hold off on CM7 until it was past RC stage because I feared it would have some issues, despite all the glowing reports, and it does, but not enough for me to go back to stock. Probably time to flash netarchy on top of this.
zephiK said:
yes. put it in SD, boot into CWR
flash .zip
and you're done.. its the same as flashing a ROM
and as far as battery life.. make sure you disabled latitude (automatic and that other feature) in CM7.. not sure if its still working even though if latitude is disabled, id disable it anyway
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I haven't even activated latitude . I don't have background data enabled either. Not sure what is killing the battery life in CM7 ..
Also, if you're interested. Check out frank707's "NS Collab" ROM. It's basically CM7 without ADW launcher, which is good if you like using CM7 but miss the stock launcher or just frankly don't like ADW.
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I haven't even activated latitude . I don't have background data enabled either. Not sure what is killing the battery life in CM7 ..
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hence why i said.. not sure if its still working even though if latitude is disabled, id disable it anyway
I have tried CM7 and felt that its bugs and constant state of upgrading and updating to fix things caused me too many issues for daily use.
I do think that CM7 does perform a bit better than the other ROMS due to it being AOSP based but i feel thats why there are also some of these bugs.
I have been using AXURA by Master and its been flawless for me, the one issue I had with a reboot was due to testing a new overclock, but now I keep it at 1200 max ondemand and it hasn't gave me any issues, The lack of full easy theme support like CM7 is a con but the performance is up there with CM7 and the stability is sooo much better for me, I feel this is because its the Stock 2.3.3 ROM that has been decomplied and tweaked and then compiled again.
Its worth looking at some of the other options as well.
Anybody have this working on their phone yet?
tested on my i9020a and doesnt work either for me anyone?
Seems to work fine on mine.
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Seems to work fine on mine.
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thats odd i tested it using the free version and the BLN test didnt even work. Tried calling a few times and missing the call as well as texting my phone and leaving the message unread and still nothing. Wonder if this is the case with only the rogers/fido/telus/bell i9020as as some of us had to root via the i9023 CWM recovery.
Yeh, I got caught with the problems of flashing the i9020 CWM instead of the i9023 version but the BLN is working for me both with the free non-blinking test and pro blinking test.
The NSCollab ROM I'm using includes the latest Netarchy 1.3.0.3 CFS kernel. Maybe that's the reason it's working for me??
really thats interesting, the kernel i tested one was the 1.3.0.3 netarchy kernel i guess i'll have to test it using the paid version and see wat happens
edit: tested using the paid version and it seems like its the i9023 root method thats screwing things up a little.
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really thats interesting, the kernel i tested one was the 1.3.0.3 netarchy kernel i guess i'll have to test it using the paid version and see wat happens
edit: tested using the paid version and it seems like its the i9023 root method thats screwing things up a little.
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That's what I was kinda wondering about the i9023 recovery, I guess that is what is doing it. I have the paid version of BLN as well, and it didn't make any difference.
did a bit more testing and it seems that BLN does work, but only for SMS and not for missed called even with the LED notification on for missed called.
Took mine back to 2.3.3 stock, installed Netarchy latest 1.3.0.3 kernel and now I'm getting the same behaviour: BLN test doesn't work, LED notification on missed calls not working but LED notification on new email is working.
Might try flashing the NSCollab ROM again to see what happens.
Tried running fix permissions on the stock ROM but this didn't seem to fix BLN notifications.
Reflashed NSCollab ROM. Tested BLN and initially still not working but after a reboot it's all working properly again.
so it might just be a stock rom + BLN kernel issue has any of the kernel devs looked into this?
I tried it out a few hours ago on my 9020a with CM7 and the Trinity UV kernel and so far BLN free version works great, not that I have much use for it, never used it on my Galaxy s but will see.
I too am having issues with it working on calls. emails/txts it works without fail.
EDIT:seems i found the issue. its the good old BFS choose a kernel that doesn't use it and it works fine. Seems bfs doesnt really like the 9020a's.
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I too am having issues with it working on calls. emails/txts it works without fail.
EDIT:seems i found the issue. its the good old BFS choose a kernel that doesn't use it and it works fine. Seems bfs doesnt really like the 9020a's.
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im using it with netarchy 1.3.0.3 CFS so im not sure if the BFS is the sole cause of this
Hi,
I'm just wondering if anyone got BLN working on the Jame Bond kernel ?
I've read in that thread that it supports Voodoo and BLN and I'm using the Sabai dee kernel but BLN doesn't seem to work for me ?
To be honest, I'm not too sure how to run the test. I click on it and it says press the power button to test it, which I do, but then my screen just turns off and nothing happens....am I doing something wrong ?
I also brought the pro version, and tried calling myself and sending myself an email and nothing happened.
Any suggestions ?
Cheers in advance
I'm running SupeAosp 6.2 Rom and BLN works perfectly for with, this includes missed calls and notifications. The Kernel that I'm using is 2.6.35.12-SuperAosp-S-1400. Apparently the next upgrade is going to be compiled with the UV which I am planning to test out as soon as its released. Furthermore as a bandage solution people can use NoLED without any mods at all, I found the app quite useful as I was not experienced enough to recompile with BLN included.
I forgot to mention, I am using an i9020A.
Chibsz said:
Hi,
I'm just wondering if anyone got BLN working on the Jame Bond kernel ?
I've read in that thread that it supports Voodoo and BLN and I'm using the Sabai dee kernel but BLN doesn't seem to work for me ?
To be honest, I'm not too sure how to run the test. I click on it and it says press the power button to test it, which I do, but then my screen just turns off and nothing happens....am I doing something wrong ?
I also brought the pro version, and tried calling myself and sending myself an email and nothing happened.
Any suggestions ?
Cheers in advance
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first of all make sure all your settings are correct in the bln app...
bln works for the 9020a, but I forget if the missed call works or not...everything else seems to. with that being said, the issues with stock and the missed call not working will be sorted shortly...when the 9023 gets working...its not the 9023 recovery causing the problem
As the title states, I'm looking for just a stock kernel with BLN support. My phone seems to dislike the modded kernels like netarchy and matr1x. I've tried the cfs and bfs variants and my battery life plummets. I've tried netarchy kernel without using the bln and still getting the same battery life.
Stock kernel on stock 2.3.4 my phone has 30+ hours of battery life and running a modded kernel battery life drops to 12-15 hours. Still a decent amount of life compared to my old evo. I've played with compiling my own kernel but can't seem to find any threads or how-to's on putting bln support into a kernel.
sedracer said:
As the title states, I'm looking for just a stock kernel with BLN support. My phone seems to dislike the modded kernels like netarchy and matr1x. I've tried the cfs and bfs variants and my battery life plummets. I've tried netarchy kernel without using the bln and still getting the same battery life.
Stock kernel on stock 2.3.4 my phone has 30+ hours of battery life and running a modded kernel battery life drops to 12-15 hours. Still a decent amount of life compared to my old evo. I've played with compiling my own kernel but can't seem to find any threads or how-to's on putting bln support into a kernel.
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Unfortunately, the 'Stock' kernel just doesn't support the added hooks which Netarchy and its peers have added into their core.
With regards to your experience - have you been flashing modded roms, or strictly kernels? I agree that I can't claim 30+ hours on any of the mods, but I didn't experience that with the stock either (maybe 20-25 hours of low usage).
Flashing Netarchy 1.3.7 (or higher, CFS), along with undervolting (via Proton), 2G communication only, and maybe using the 'Conservative' governor may help you with batterylife.
Cheers, and Good Luck!
I was flashing kernels on the stock rom. I honestly like the bare google experience, just wish this damn phone had a notification light lol.
Oddly enough i've figured out that chompsms for some reason is a resources hog on modded kernels and roms. I removed chomp and google maps before flashing netarchy and battery life increased to 22-25hours which is livable for better notifications.
What's wrong with the kernels? You can adjust the voltages for optimal conditions in proton and that should be good....
I got Jame Bond last week http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949292 and it runs great. My batteries at 30 percent right now after 25 hours and bln's working fine. Definately recommend it.
mathkid95 said:
What's wrong with the kernels? You can adjust the voltages for optimal conditions in proton and that should be good....
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honestly its have to adjust anything. i've been through multiple android devices from the g1 to the evo and 4-5 in between and i've loved tweaking every little thing. the nexus runs so well stock that fiddling with every little setting and mod just doesn't seem worth it to me.
I'm not trying to talk up my product, but have you tried the Matr1x kernel?
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I'm not trying to talk up my product, but have you tried the Matr1x kernel?
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He won't talk up his product, but I will
I feel exactly the same as you do, sedracer. The phone is very good stock, and I see no reason to use anything other than the stock kernel.
Regardless, I gave matr1x kernel a try and I love it. It is exactly what I was looking for. I can OC if I want to, and it has BLN. No FCs, no random reboots, no freezing. As far as I'm concerned, it's stock with OC and BLN enabled. Battery life is about the same as stock, although I haven't used it for more than a week or so.
Oh cool, you are talking about v5.0, right?
mathkid95 said:
Oh cool, you are talking about v5.0, right?
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Actually, no. When I first downloaded it, it was version 4.5. Only had it over clocked to 1.2 though, so stability wasn't a problem. I'm going to D/L the newest kernel right now.
Wondering what the best rom for me to use would be?
I also feel like my phone uses too much battery searching for data.it burned 25% in 1 hour without use. Just because I didn't have a 3g signal
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ROM has much less impact on battery life than the kernel. The best battery life you're going to get right now is on Froyo with an overclock kernel so that you can undervolt as low as your phone can handle.
I recommend updating your modems to the newest EP3HA leak. I have had much better data connectivity since. If you are in a building that is causing the issue it may or may not help.
how exactly do i do that?
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how exactly do i do that?
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nothing special put them in the PDA slot in Odin and flash it like a rom, then boot up your phone and you're good
get them here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293175
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shrike1978 said:
ROM has much less impact on battery life than the kernel. The best battery life you're going to get right now is on Froyo with an overclock kernel so that you can undervolt as low as your phone can handle.
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Just wondering if when I flash the imo 3.1 for charge like you have in your comment (using humble 4.22) will it show 2.6.35.7-EP3 for the kernel in the "About Phone"? Just trying to verify if the flash worked.
loccoelf said:
Just wondering if when I flash the imo 3.1 for charge like you have in your comment (using humble 4.22) will it show 2.6.35.7-EP3 for the kernel in the "About Phone"? Just trying to verify if the flash worked.
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yes
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge
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yes
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge
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Do you like your new rom and kernel better? Or just trying it? Im looking for gingerbread with battery life with everything working and decent speed =D
loccoelf said:
Do you like your new rom and kernel better? Or just trying it? Im looking for gingerbread with battery life with everything working and decent speed =D
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I like it actually despite it being a beta however there's still issues one of which is with lagfix/ext4 conversion that soft bricks the phone so stock RFS for now (I should change the sig lol)... its fast enough and the cyan/ICS look is pretty cool, no accurate battery readings yet as I've had to flash it a few times the past few days to test stuff but it seems to be pretty decent
I also managed to grab a beta of Imnuts/TSM Infinity rom for EP3H that I used for a while and that was pretty awesome.. it was smooth, stable and had pretty good battery life, I don't know when they're gonna release as a final rom but it looked done pretty much.. there is an Infinity rom for EP1W though that's the same if you don't mind not having the latest leak lol
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ahh, im still not really sure what lagfix/ext4 is.
loccoelf said:
ahh, im still not really sure what lagfix/ext4 is.
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voodoo lagfix is system file/partition conversion from RFS format to EXT4, makes the phone much faster and smoother
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its built into the odin humble 4.22 package right? also where do you get weird roms like yours Nitroglycerine's Eclipse Beta v2
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its built into the odin humble 4.22 package right? also where do you get weird roms like yours Nitroglycerine's Eclipse Beta v2
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yes I believe it is.. as for the roms the devs will release test packages either on twitter or in the IRC webchat, they usually need people to try them out and report bugs
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anoninja118 said:
yes I believe it is.. as for the roms the devs will release test packages either on twitter or in the IRC webchat, they usually need people to try them out and report bugs
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge
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Infinity 2.3.5 10/11/11 beta is AWESOME
Sent from my Droid Charge running Infinity Beta
Hey, lately my captivate decided to switch its notification ways. Instead of vibrating and showing that i got a text at the type, it just stays silent and turns on LED home buttons. I have no clue what i changed. I don't have any LED hack apps. If this happened to you, please help. Thanks
Captivate
Froyo
Rooted
Perhaps you flashed a new kernel w/ BLN (Back Light Notification)...
phrix626 said:
Perhaps you flashed a new kernel w/ BLN (Back Light Notification)...
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This and more information would help. What rom and kernel are you using?
Sent from my Captivate
curti.nogg said:
This and more information would help. What rom and kernel are you using?
Sent from my Captivate
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i cant 100% remember, it's stock room, but i think i flashed a speed kernel. ill try to google and find it
i think this was it and yea has some bln crap...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893880
AVega5 said:
bln crap...
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Thats a matter of opinion
Some people flash kernels for bln alone
BenKranged said:
Thats a matter of opinion
Some people flash kernels for bln alone
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crap for me lol
i used the bln control app, but now after my phone vibrates on a text the notification goes away and is freezing up
EDIT: It's fixed now woot, thanks guys. Now I just have to find out why it's been freezing up today, I ran the stability test and neocore for 10 hours as I was sleeping and no errors came up. Will do again tonight.