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Hey everyone,
I'm considering a wifi only tablet for my birthday (April 23rd), and naturally the now popularized Motorola Xoom popped into my head as a first choice. The question is, is it already being trumped? I've heard of numerous other Honeycomb tablets coming out that have equally (if not exceedingly) impressive specs and similar pricetags, such as the Acer Iconia and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
All in all, I want to know, what makes the Xoom worth it (if it is worth it)? Why have people been eating up this tablet in lieu of other impressive competitors around the corner?
I've never owned a Motorola product before, so if someone could elaborate on the quality of their products, I suppose that would help in deciding as well!
Thanks for your input in advance.
EDIT: Please, no one suggest the iPad; if I had any questions concerning that toy, I could just walk into the nearest coffee shop.
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I agree, sure there will be better ones that come out and they probably will be cheaper. But the xoom is here now. Even if I knew the samsung was going to be just as good and half the price I would not wait 3 months with no tablet to save the money. I guess it depends on your financial situation but frankly if you are worried about your finances you probably should not get any tablet as it not something really anyone "needs". But even though I don't need it, if I lost mine I would buy a new one the same day to replace it. It depends on what makes you happy, the xoom makes me happy so its a easy decision for me, regardless of how others may think of it.
Every day I have it it just gets more and more useful and enjoyable for me. When netflix hits its going to better, when more tablet apps hit its going to be better, when os updates come out its going to be better, the future is still pretty bright for the xoom even though new tablets are coming.
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Good thing is you have choices! LG Moto Samsung. I personally wouldn't trust LG or Acer. There is no telling when or if you would receive updates and accessories. Motorola and Samsung would be my front runners. The Xoom is here now and you can read through the forums to gage how well people like it. Samsung is a little ways away but cheaper with similiar specs. I can't wait so its Xoom here.
Do your research and weigh the pros and cons of each device. Decide what features you find more important and make your decision based on that information. We could tell you all day long which device we would buy but its all about personal preference. You gotta carry thing around for 6-12 months not us.
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I would go to a best buy and play with the xoom for a while. get a good feel for the hardware and see if you like the size of the device. You mmay find it too big or heavy. From what I hear about the Samsung galaxy 8.9, it may be the one to get in a few months. The LG to me is priced too high and wouldn't dare think about getting a tablet on contract. Acer and some of the others have been unproven and will have to prove something if I'm going to chose them over the competition that has built a good reputation with android over the last few years.
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no point in waiting. By the time Samsung gets here, there will be another even more impressive tablet coming.
It is similar with me and when the Nikon D300s came out. I was puzzle on should I get D300s or wait for D400 or maybe something else.
Look at this way, I got the Nikon D300s...was able to play with it and took all those great pictures with it, that I would not have been able to during that period of me waiting.
So, either buy the Xoom now and enjoy having the use of it...or wait until price drop and think back of all those days you've lost not having the fun of having it. What makes it worst to wait, the minute you buy it...it either get discontinued or replace with something better. Technology waits for no one. Get it while it is hot.
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gubiguy said:
Hey everyone,
I'm considering a wifi only tablet for my birthday (April 23rd), and naturally the now popularized Motorola Xoom popped into my head as a first choice. The question is, is it already being trumped? I've heard of numerous other Honeycomb tablets coming out that have equally (if not exceedingly) impressive specs and similar pricetags, such as the Acer Iconia and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
All in all, I want to know, what makes the Xoom worth it (if it is worth it)? Why have people been eating up this tablet in lieu of other impressive competitors around the corner?
I've never owned a Motorola product before, so if someone could elaborate on the quality of their products, I suppose that would help in deciding as well!
Thanks for your input in advance.
EDIT: Please, no one suggest the iPad; if I had any questions concerning that toy, I could just walk into the nearest coffee shop.
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From what I have read I would say that the xoom still has the better specs. Maybe I am missing something but the pricing is similar, run the same processor and ram, same screen Res and size (although I am sure samsungs screen is more vivid), and both have micro ad slots. The xoom however has 3g (upgradeable to lte 4g which is worth the price of admission right there if you ask me), is unlockeable and most of all isn't running a horrible skin like touchwiz. I can guarentee the developer support will be greater for the xoom than any of the Samsung tabs. The only spec I see that is slightly bwtter than the xoom is the screen and the 8.9 should cost a little less and have a little better pixel debsity. Oh and the Samsung tabs are a little lighter but that is a complete non issue to me. If you want a Tablet that will.never get upgrades and run a horrible laggy, cartoony, iphoney screen then get Samsung. I still think the xoom is by far the better Tablet and won't be trumped until quad core kilel (did I spell that right?) Processors are released.
I have had the xoom since release and I actually pay to have data plan so I can't comment on wifi only (and who can it's not out but from what I have seen it is the exact same just missing support 3g/4g chip. I personally want/need 4g so I purchased put right, but for most wifi will work fine. You can always go.month to month and the extra 200 to me was much worth knowing that one day Verizon lte will be powering this beast making it all the more better than the competition. The android tablet world is just starting and I really think that the xoom is the Nexus one of tablets and that is one of the main reasons I purchased it and after Sammy announced their lineup with touchwiz on board I think this (and LG) will be some of the only stock vanilla honeycomb tablets the market will ever see especially where iit is fully inlockeable. I would suggest the xoom to anyone and the 599 price point is perfect. Let me know if you have any questions and good luck in your future decision. Hope this helps even a little bit
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Samsung is a little ways away but cheaper with similiar specs. I can't wait so its Xoom here.
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Agree with everything you said, except: the Galaxy Tab 10.1 32GB wifi-only will be $599, just like the Xoom. So pricing is actually identical. The existence of a $499 16GB Galaxy Tab 10.1 might be attractive to some folks, but it won't of course be the same thing.
And I know Samsung did a really good job of going back and redesigning the Galaxy Tab given the iPad 2's strengths. But what did they cut to make the thing so much thinner, lighter and, as they implied in their statements, cheaper?
I think from what I see, the two factors that get me interested in Galaxy are
1) The much brighter and vibrant screen
2) lighter than xoom
But knowing Samsung and their support level or lack there of...Xoom might be a better choice....
I personally don't care for touchwiz, and the molasses pace that Samsung produces updates is criminal. Buying a device with an OS as new as Honeycomb from a manufacturer with a proven record of bad post-production software support seems like a bad idea to me.
Also, last I checked the 10.1V (teh stock android 3.0 version) does not have microSD
I will reiterate what another use stated, head down to Best Buy and get your hands on the XOOM to get a feel for the size and weight. I've done this a few times and the more I do the more I like it. Initially it feels a little heavy but you get used to it.
The XOOM is here now, the price will be similar to other 10" Honeycomb devices coming out and many of the coming devices will have custom overlays. (TouchWiz) I'd rather have the XOOM as it's a Google Experience device and will likely be the first device to get updates.
I think touch wiz should be least of concern. I think they confirmed that 10.1 will go live w/o touch wiz and it is an optional add on patch if you chose to.
Beside, touch wiz or not, root and replace with other launcher if dont like it.
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I think touch wiz should be least of concern. I think they confirmed that 10.1 will go live w/o touch wiz and it is an optional add on patch if you chose to.
Beside, touch wiz or not, root and replace with other launcher if dont like it.
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I completely disagree, especially on such a new OS that will be receiving frequent, important updates.
The 10.1V will be stock android (this is the fatter version with the better camera and no SD card)
The super slim 8.9 and 10.1 will be touchwiz 4.0
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I completely disagree, especially on such a new OS that will be receiving frequent, important updates.
The 10.1V will be stock android (this is the fatter version with the better camera and no SD card)
The super slim 8.9 and 10.1 will be touchwiz 4.0
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Didn't know there were 3 versions. In the slashgear you tube i saw, they only show two versions.
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Didn't know there were 3 versions. In the slashgear you tube i saw, they only show two versions.
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the 10.1v was the one that came out at MWC before Samsung did a big re-design to make it thinner and smoother.
Then they released the new 10.1 and 8.9 as the "US Versions" at CTIA a few days ago.
It should be said that we really don't know which models or if any will be coming with TouchWiz4.0 on them. We have a whole 2 months before the new 10.1 even comes out. A lot can change in that time, and as far as Google is concerned you're not allowed to change Honeycomb's UI, so we'll have to see as that pans out.
Guys, I just wanted to mention that LG is apparently creating a nexus/purely Google tablet - slated to be the *real* "Nexus One" of tablets and receive the according amount of updates... the question is , how reputable is LGs hardware? Truthfully, because the Xoom and the Nexus tab will both run AOSP honeycomb, I doubt updates will come slower to the Xoom from the dev community or the manufacturer.
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gubiguy said:
Hey everyone,
I'm considering a wifi only tablet for my birthday (April 23rd), and naturally the now popularized Motorola Xoom popped into my head as a first choice. The question is, is it already being trumped? I've heard of numerous other Honeycomb tablets coming out that have equally (if not exceedingly) impressive specs and similar pricetags, such as the Acer Iconia and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
All in all, I want to know, what makes the Xoom worth it (if it is worth it)? Why have people been eating up this tablet in lieu of other impressive competitors around the corner?
I've never owned a Motorola product before, so if someone could elaborate on the quality of their products, I suppose that would help in deciding as well!
Thanks for your input in advance.
EDIT: Please, no one suggest the iPad; if I had any questions concerning that toy, I could just walk into the nearest coffee shop.
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I have nothing to add, but we have the same birthday.
wolverine423 said:
I have nothing to add, but we have the same birthday.
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Get a tablet on the 23rd as well
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If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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muzz3256 said:
I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first. The Xoom is also the ONLY tablet that supports 802.11 a/b/g/n that means you can operate on 2.4ghz wifi or 5ghz wifi. The Xoom is built stronger in my opinion.
The samsung is very pretty but after reading about how users are able to just flex them in their hands with little to no effort and reading reports of the glass popping out of the tablet... yeah no thanks. To say that comparing the Acer and the Xoom is comparing the worst two units on the market is short sighted and ignorant at worst.
I'd definately want the Xoom over any other tablet released to date.
So how's the playback & GPS on the Xoom? I'm been having difficulty with a lot of my 1080p videos on the A500, and the gps can't get a lock to save it's own life. I've updated the A500 to 3.1 and while the 1080p video playback has improved (it's not as choppy), the GPS is a worse as ever!
The GPS works like a charm. I've used it as a giant Garmin a few times. As for the video. I haven't tried anything in HD, but flash video can be a little jumpy. Most videos below 1080p are butter, but like I said, you can get the occasional jumpiness in flash videos.
boglwe said:
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum. You dumbasses who are just here to talk **** are getting annoying. I'm assuming you own all four tablets and have thouroughly tested their pros and cons right?
The xoom is a very solid, well spec'd well supported piece of hardware.
Oh by the way how are you liking 3.2 on your gtab? Its beautiful on my xoom. Wait Samsung hasn't pushed that update yet? Sorry
Timely updates are important too. Xoom wins again
Kiss mine dude.
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Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......
muzz3256 said:
Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......
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Yea. GPS status n tools works well enough to accurately read car speed on my xoom, accurately lol.
The xoom is also pure google, which means its like the nexus line of phones.... you get the latest updates faster, the now 2 year old nexus is still more up to date then most phones you can buy today. So, ice cream sandwich and beyond is all but promised for the xoom. People have different opinions, but I'm enjoying 3.2 right now, before any other tablet. Like the galaxy tab 10.1 for example.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first
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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.
Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum.
Kiss mine dude.
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There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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i believe he reacted like that because there are a lot of guys coming into this forum to talk crap..... when all is said and done, all these tabs have pretty much the same specs. The 10.1 has no ports or SD but a nicer screen. The iconia is bigger and heavier, but cheaper and has a full sized USB. And the transformer has a nice screen but no USB without the dock. Its all about what's important to the person buying the device. I returned my iconia for the xoom and haven't looked back, and yes I tried the transformer for a few days too. It was nice but having to attach the dock to hook up USB devices was a pain in my opinion. I bought a tab so I didn't need a keyboard and mouse.
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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.
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Honestly if I lived outside the US and had wifi only I'd just flash the US images and be done with it.
I was actually suggesting the transformer over the gt any day..I was not trying to say don't get it but I just found it odd the compare was zoom vs Acer when two knew tabs are on the market. I own the ts and am seriously considering the zoom..the snapdragon is the killer for me for.
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Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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muzz3256 said:
Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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GPS is one of the biggest reasons I chose the Xoom. The wifi version has a TRUE GPS chip onboard.
It's not assisted (rofl) gps, nor cellular triangulation, but a real gps chip and you don't have to buy the 3G version (cough icrap cough) to get it either.
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There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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Its not that. Its like this, I'm a loyal HTC customer, and not a big fan of samsungs phones. But do I go post in the captivate forum talking crap about a product I don't own, when someone needs help with a valid question? No. That's rude and counterproductive
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I chose the xoom because I like the nice solid feel, I hate UI overlays and know how google beautifully supports devices they use to launch a new version of android. Also, I purchased mine before there was any competition, Ive played with a few other tabs, the galaxy felt flimsy, the transformer was about equal to my xoom IMO, and the Acer felt.... awkward I guess
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boglwe said:
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Asus Transformer? Are you kidding?
I am on my second TF. There are some major manufacturing issues with this device. The screen bleeds light from around the edges, the battery drain on their dock, speaker issues, Flash 10.3 at 6 frames/sec, etc. IMHO, the TF is not a good device at all. The 32GB TF was $499, the dock was $149. I had to return the device once and the new one, well, it is OK but no better. I think the Asus TF is sexy but overpriced. I got my Xoom for $499 and it just has a better feel and operates better. Once I get my 3.2 OTA update to have a MicroSD, the Xoom will probably be my favorite.
I did and I'm happy I did it.
I just got 3.2 last night. There's not really much use for the SD card. Or, I haven't figured it out, and ive spent alot of time trying, and the only way I can even see files on it was a file manager, but its already partitioned for my evo. So I think I may need to find a new one and try it.
3.2 is even faster and less battery draining, less force closes across all aps, and the portrait home/app screen is now lag free for me. The keyboard feels improved and auto correct and predict seem more intelligent. Zooming apps is nice. Browser is snappier along with most all data using apps. Maybe some updating on that end?
I'm very happy with my xoom after 3.2
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Is it worth buying now or just wait for Xoom 2 or I should buy Galaxy Tab 10.1?
I have iPad 1 ,but I don't like it ,it not very productivity just game. I am now considering buying an Android Tablet.
Should I buy Xoom or Galaxy Tab 10.1? I also like to flash new ROM. Which one have more custom ROM?
Good question. My two cents...
Presumably, Google will release the source code for Honeycomb sometime soon after the release of Icecream Sandwich. It's also a (I believe widely accepted) presumption that a new model Xoom will be released soon, especially with the Christmas season approaching.
Not that Google and Motorola should really ever be expected to have their **** together enough to coordinate this correctly, from a marketing stand point it makes the most sense. It would make sense that the new Xoom would have the new OS in it.
However, two great things will happen if that's all true; three price of the Xoom 1 will drop considerably (it already has dropped pretty far), and new Honeycomb ROMs will be popping up with far better customizable interfaces and capabilities than Icecream Samich!
This is all speculation on my part, and I may be completely ignorant of some key facts, but it's the reason why I have no interest in a new tablet or Icecream Sandwich.
My last experience with this sort of thing was when I was loading my Droid 1. Even though updates were open source (TRUE O.S.), and always highly anticipated, they never really contained anything so mind blowing that I ever felt it was worth jumping to a new custom made ROM that had it.
My advice is to get a Xoom now, or just when the new one hits the market. I'm no expert and would love tosee what other members say.
Yes...I bought mine three weeks ago.
But then again I wanted a solid tab experience and the Galaxy didnt cut it for me.
Build quality is better on the Xoom IMO - and I was lucky to snag a new one at $449.
A few things that I like about the Xoom:
- Screen quality is great on my unit - even though its an AUO.
- Sound quality is the best of any tablet. Im assuming you are using this device for media consumption and you wont be disappointed with the speaker layout or sound.
- Build quality is top notch. No Flex. Gorilla Glass.
- My unit is Wifi only (I have a tether plan if needed) and the battery life even on Stock ROM and Kernel is fantastic (rooted).
- For business use I like this tablet a lot. I can have clients sign .pdf's with ease and handle Office docs easily with QuickOffice and Repligo (Worth the $20 for a business professional)
There will always be something better because of the push to create with Android. Do yourself a favor and buy this now (if you play with it and like it of course) and if you need to upgrade in a year or so then do so.
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Yes...I bought mine three weeks ago.
But then again I wanted a solid tab experience and the Galaxy didnt cut it for me.
Build quality is better on the Xoom IMO - and I was lucky to snag a new one at $449.
A few things that I like about the Xoom:
- Screen quality is great on my unit - even though its an AUO.
- Sound quality is the best of any tablet. Im assuming you are using this device for media consumption and you wont be disappointed with the speaker layout or sound.
- Build quality is top notch. No Flex. Gorilla Glass.
- My unit is Wifi only (I have a tether plan if needed) and the battery life even on Stock ROM and Kernel is fantastic (rooted).
- For business use I like this tablet a lot. I can have clients sign .pdf's with ease and handle Office docs easily with QuickOffice and Repligo (Worth the $20 for a business professional)
There will always be something better because of the push to create with Android. Do yourself a favor and buy this now (if you play with it and like it of course) and if you need to upgrade in a year or so then do so.
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I echo those sentiments.
i agree too, i bought mine even after i found out that motorola is preparing a quad core tab for release soon, but if i kept waiting for the latest then i will never end up buying anything, and i understand that every open source tablet with android is supported with updates for 18 months maybe ? i remember i read that somewhere, so motorola and google now as one company will support updates for us till october 2012 so i am pretty sure we will also get ICS
I just put my TP on e-bay. Now my TP had a OC 1.7 dual core with a gig of ram and a great GPU and IMO the best speaker system you could want. Once honeycomb gets put on it it will rock and be one of the best tabs there are right now IMO.
But i still sold it. I need HDMI out, SD card reader and the accessory support. I got a wifi only xoom for 310 shipped on ebay.
So really its up to you lol
I bought my xoom 3g second hand for 275. Loving it. But if price wasn't an issue, I might have gone with a galaxy tab 10.1 because it is a lot lighter which I think is important for a device you are going to be hold up to read a lot. Samsung manufactures excellent screens as well.
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I bought my xoom 3g second hand for 275. Loving it. But if price wasn't an issue, I might have gone with a galaxy tab 10.1 because it is a lot lighter which I think is important for a device you are going to be hold up to read a lot. Samsung manufactures excellent screens as well.
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Xoom is better imho...you got a fantastic deal. Enjoy it and don't look back.
The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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Its funny u say that, ur like my girl, all apple. But I do catch her on my xoom!. Like the iPhone, most of them are girls.
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The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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I couldn't disagree more. There's nothing juvenile about the Xoom or android. The Xoom is for people who enjoy making the tablet their own. But YMMV.
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The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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Sorry man, the iPad is really good at many things and really bad at many things. Most importantly though, the iPad is the dumbest way to do a smart thing (usually, there are exceptions). If you are truly smart, you don't need preschool level hand holding, or ridiculous restrictions, to get things done.
Android is far more likely to be used by smart people than an iPad. Sorry but it's true. This doesn't mean there are no smart people using iPads, it simply means there are more dumb people using iPads than there are dumb people using Xooms(or other Android tablets). I say this because it's simple logistics. If you are dumb and you are looking at tablets, the only guidance you are likely to get is to buy an iPad. Just go into most retail outlets and watch what they push on the inexperienced.
Also, I agree that the best tablets will be the tablets that run a full OS. However, we are at least 10-12 months away from Windows 8. I wouldn't recommend a Windows tablet until Windows 8 is released.
Having said all this, I don't really like to call people dumb. Less experienced is a more appropriate description most of the time. There are, however, some people who really are just dumb.
I have had the iPad, several crappy and cheap Android tablets, The Nook Color, Acer Iconia A500, HP Touchpad, and (as of yesterday) the Motorola Xoom.
I chose the Xoom because I think it will receive the most love from Google in the future. This is for obvious reasons. I also chose the Xoom because it has accessory and dock options, expandable memory slot, and HDMI out without any proprietary adapters. I have just started to mess with this device but I do like the feel of it and it seems to be very well built.
My initial impression, in comparison to the Iconia, is that the performance is much smoother. One of the things about the Iconia was that the stock rom was very laggy at times. I haven't noticed this with the Xoom yet. Also, there isn't any add-on crap on the Xoom either. I prefer mostly stock Android, and the Iconia had a couple (in my opinion stupid) enhancements. This may explain the difference in performance. The only cool thing, I will miss, on the Iconia is the full size USB port.
I look forward to seeing what I can do with this device. It should work well with my SGS II.
Yea..im gonna wait until after Christmas and grab me a Xoom. mainly cause i don't have the money now lol. Or else i'd grab one now. But im happy playing with my Flashed GTab for the moment.
Don't know why i NEED a Xoom. Maybe the sexiness of it. Im not a Flasher. (Mine was already flashed when i got it). So Xoom already having 3.1 and upgradeable over the air right? Should be good enough for me.
Is 370$ good price for the xoom?
I will study in college soon and i am wondering if the xoom will suit me?
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Is 370$ good price for the xoom?
I will study in college soon and i am wondering if the xoom will suit me?
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It's quite a good price. I think it should suit you fine.
Don't misunderstand. I recommended the iPad 2 for business solely because of the raw power of the cpu and the gpu. When combined with the robustness of the productivity software, it's a smarter choice for business for the money.
This isn't an emotional choice. If I had what I wanted, it would be something as powerful as the A9 processor with that gpu running win8.
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I recommend it. I love my Xoom and cannot imagine a life without it.
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Is it worth buying now? Absolutely
Will the price be lower in a month or 2? Absolutely
Will something better be released in 4-6 months? Absolutely
how much is the retail price in the us? there is a dude in ebay who wants 400$ for it but i think its pretty much because its the retail price in US..to bad i cant get hold of one here in sweden..
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how much is the retail price in the us? there is a dude in ebay who wants 400$ for it but i think its pretty much because its the retail price in US..to bad i cant get hold of one here in sweden..
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It is 399 for refurbished here. 499 is typical otherwise.
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have been looking round for a tab, while the transformer prime seems best its now almost double the cost of the xoom, even though the xoom is quite old, it seems anything else around is still tegra2 or dual core similar spec hardware to the xoom, so i dont see any point apart from the weight in getting anything newer or more expensive, is it still a good option guys? you can get one for around £260 in the UK where as the transformer prime would be £499 and the original transformer maybe £350
i just returned a scroll extreme as it was just soooooooooooooo laggy!! i dont want anything with huge lag like that again
This late? I wouldn't buy the xoom today at its current price.
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have been looking round for a tab, while the transformer prime seems best its now almost double the cost of the xoom, even though the xoom is quite old, it seems anything else around is still tegra2 or dual core similar spec hardware to the xoom, so i dont see any point apart from the weight in getting anything newer or more expensive, is it still a good option guys? you can get one for around £260 in the UK where as the transformer prime would be £499 and the original transformer maybe £350
i just returned a scroll extreme as it was just soooooooooooooo laggy!! i dont want anything with huge lag like that again
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So I'm the first to respond...the original Xoom is a wonderful device and is even better now than it was when it was new because it has ICS official update, and best of all, the most fantastic developers and real bleeding-edge advances in Xoom software. It's so well built and sturdy that the bit of additional weight doesn't matter. In my opinion the Xoom is still the best tablet available, as everything works well and there's tons of additional functionality with custom roms.
The xoom is built like a tank and with it's specs what else out there is better for the money. I have two of them and the last one I picked up for $315 U.S.
Picked up 32 gb wifi only xoom a few months back with original box and 5 cases (4 still sealed) for $275 off craigslist. Didn't think it was too bad and I'll be keeping xoom for awhile
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This late? I wouldn't buy the xoom today at its current price.
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the only thing i can see maybe 'better' for the money is the asus transformer 101 maybe just because its a little lighter and can be expanded with the kb if need be, also the connectivity looks a little better placed, and its just as supposed with roms and people using it. These are both £290 ish in the UK?
i mean the xoom 2 is a little more expensive but for that lighter slimmer body you lose the expansion slow, sure you can use the usb host but i dont like that idea, would prefer an expansion slot, the galaxy tab just seem out there with the price, then you have the acer a200 which ones again is similar so im thinking the original xoom or asus transformer in this price bracket is the best option...
I only got my Xoom about 3 weeks ago, £280 from PC world. Been an android guy for a year now so did my research to see what the community support was like. Noticed that we're getting official CM9 support, that made the deal even sweeter. Still team EOS provide excellent support on AOSP builds. Even in terms of specs, great screen, great processor, can be overclocked (and stable). In my opinion this is still a great buy!
I too want to buy a tablet. But I'm confused between xoom, galaxy tab 10.1 and transformer TF101.
So what do you guys suggest?
My requirements are, good support by Dev community and which wont brick easily...
Thanks..
Peace.
Hi I just picked up a Motorola Xoom WiFi 32GB via a pricerunner.co.uk search. This got me a £5 discount making the delivered price just under £245. I tried to upgrade to ICE/Android 4.0, but managed to “Brick” the device …so be warned and be patient.
Fortunately I manage to resolve this issue with the help of some XDA forum links, YouTube and Motorola site itself. I will try and write up the details of my problem and solution in another thread.
I am now back to the original Android 3.2 version and so far I am very happy the XOOM.
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I too want to buy a tablet. But I'm confused between xoom, galaxy tab 10.1 and transformer TF101.
So what do you guys suggest?
My requirements are, good support by Dev community and which wont brick easily...
Thanks..
Peace.
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the Xoom has great community support and as far as I know the galaxy tab 10.1 does too because that was another option of mine and community support is a big factor when I buy a new product both I believe are getting official CM9 support. i can't speak for the TF101,I don't know much about that one
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I too want to buy a tablet. But I'm confused between xoom, galaxy tab 10.1 and transformer TF101.
So what do you guys suggest?
My requirements are, good support by Dev community and which wont brick easily...
Thanks..
Peace.
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I have all three and the best will be the one you can find at the best price. All three are near similar hardware with each having an advantage/disadvantage to the others.
Community/Dev support I would have to say the Xoom wins though...as well as being difficult to brick. Google "Experience" device really makes the Xoom a great device.
(I use the Xoom, my wife is using the Transformer and I gave my mother the Galaxy Tab).
in my opinion, its the best tablet for the cost.
main cons are weight and potentially out of date hardware. that hasn't stopped it from being the first official device to receive 4.0.4
would love if i could get a 2nd one as backup.
HD dock is wonderful. it even works with my otterbox.
Xoom is the best overall tablet. Newer tablets have shinier items, but considering the durability, functionality, support and overall user experience, I don't think you could go wrong buying a xoom.
I do have a Xoom either and I think it's a good choice and you won't regret buying it. It isn't expensive for its quality and it runs very well and smoothly especially with CM9 ICS.
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the only thing i can see maybe 'better' for the money is the asus transformer 101 maybe just because its a little lighter and can be expanded with the kb if need be, also the connectivity looks a little better placed, and its just as supposed with roms and people using it. These are both £290 ish in the UK?
i mean the xoom 2 is a little more expensive but for that lighter slimmer body you lose the expansion slow, sure you can use the usb host but i dont like that idea, would prefer an expansion slot, the galaxy tab just seem out there with the price, then you have the acer a200 which ones again is similar so im thinking the original xoom or asus transformer in this price bracket is the best option...
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Actually, the Xoom has a better frame rate than the Transformer 101. You could search for the thread that proves it somewhere here in General or Q&A (sometime last summer?).
If you can find one for a good price I think it's a no-brainer. Great build quality and great active devs on XDa. What more could you possibly ask for?
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Actually xoom is not availiable online right now and the one availiable in stores is a 3g model which is out of my range. So I was thinking about buying galaxy tab..
So what do you guys suggest? Should I go for the tab or spend some extra bucks on xoom?
I really can't decide.. coz both of them almost same...
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Actually xoom is not availiable online right now and the one availiable in stores is a 3g model which is out of my range. So I was thinking about buying galaxy tab..
So what do you guys suggest? Should I go for the tab or spend some extra bucks on xoom?
I really can't decide.. coz both of them almost same...
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check craigslist in your area, or look on ebay. do your research and you are sure to find a great deal!
I've had Xoom since almost release day. Wifi at start and chose it over the galaxy tab just cause it felt more rugged. Tab was nice but felt cheep. Haven't regretted it one bit. Now I own 2 xooms, wifi and 4g, wifi one my son mainly uses. Got my 3g/4g on Craigslist for 400, came dock, leather case and original box.
based on your guys opinions here and elsewhere, i ordered the xoom and should have it in my hands tomorrow. really excited about this device! i even changed my sig already
i should mention that i have already purchased my Xoom, so no further replies are needed. thanks to all who have and helped with my decision to buy a Xoom. i love it!!
that is the question...
ok, so the Nexus 7 just came out with JB and now the Xoom is scheduled to get it as an OTA as well, so should i get a Xoom (this one on Amazon http://amzn.to/LG6XAm) or the Nexus?
also how can i tell if im getting a US Xoom and not an Asian or UK one?
well, if you want a small screen, get the nexus. if you want a bigger screen, get the xoom.
well yeah that goes without saying. i think i would be happy with either one really. we have a kindle fire as well, so im leaning towards the xoom
there is also the new chromebook to consider
but back to the xoom, i keep seeing asian models and uk models and canadian models, how do i know im getting a us model and does it really matter?
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that is the question...
ok, so the Nexus 7 just came out with JB and now the Xoom is scheduled to get it as an OTA as well, so should i get a Xoom (this one on Amazon http://amzn.to/LG6XAm) or the Nexus?
also how can i tell if im getting a US Xoom and not an Asian or UK one?
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Not sure if that matters. If you are in the US and you are ordering off Amazon, you should be getting the US one. I ordered mine refurbished from Amazon a few months ago and I have to say, I am extremely happy with my purchase. I think that the Xoom is still the best android tablet there is. The nexus is also going to be awesome so it really comes down to what you prefer in screen size.
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Not sure if that matters. If you are in the US and you are ordering off Amazon, you should be getting the US one. I ordered mine refurbished from Amazon a few months ago and I have to say, I am extremely happy with my purchase. I think that the Xoom is still the best android tablet there is. The nexus is also going to be awesome so it really comes down to what you prefer in screen size.
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i saw a couple of refurbed ones as well, remember who you ordered it from? and thanks for your reply, and with the xoom upgradeable to jelly bean, thats a plus too, that means it isn't irrelevant yet
Picked up mine from Tiger Direct a few months ago, not sure if they have any left now. Was a US version, spent the first 20 minutes rolling through also of the updates to be from Honeycomb to ICS 4.0.4. Amazing tablet, glad it's on the hook for JB.
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I would definitely go for the Xoom if you want a larger screen. Just can't beat the screen size.
Wow.. everyone keeps talking about screen size..I could care less about that.
How about
ONLY 16 GIGS OF MEMORY!1
WTTTFFFFF
Seriously.. With todays programs/pictures/videos how they think 16 gb is enough is beyond me..
No expandable memory, for obvious reasons, MAJOR MAJOR FAIL!
Cloud or not, when I go away for business/vacation my tablet is what I bring, I load it with movies,apps,business files and so on.
16 gigs is a few movies these days, not including apps, or even jellybean itself.
So disappointing what google did, it's something Apple would do
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Wow.. everyone keeps talking about screen size..I could care less about that.
How about
ONLY 16 GIGS OF MEMORY!1
WTTTFFFFF
Seriously.. With todays programs/pictures/videos how they think 16 gb is enough is beyond me..
No expandable memory, for obvious reasons, MAJOR MAJOR FAIL!
Cloud or not, when I go away for business/vacation my tablet is what I bring, I load it with movies,apps,business files and so on.
16 gigs is a few movies these days, not including apps, or even jellybean itself.
So disappointing what google did, it's something Apple would do
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i think you are referring to the new Nexus7 and the reason they have only 8 or 16 is to compete with the kindle fire which only has 8. so if you look at it that way and can get twice as much as the Fire for 50 bucks more, i would get that and probably will, but im leaning towards the Xoom anyway...do i really need a quad core processor?
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i think you are referring to the new Nexus7 and the reason they have only 8 or 16 is to compete with the kindle fire which only has 8. so if you look at it that way and can get twice as much as the Fire for 50 bucks more, i would get that and probably will, but im leaning towards the Xoom anyway...do i really need a quad core processor?
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Honestly, I'm on an 18 hour car ride right now with my Nexus S 4G in between my legs tethered to my WiFi Xoom switching between games, videos, Reddit, Tapatalk 2, and twitter, and dual core feels snappy smooth! I doubt most people need dual core, much less quad core... My NS4G is speedy on a single core 1GHZ hummingbird processor. Also, I think the quad core is at 1.3 GHZ and Xooms are set at 1.2 GHZ and can be overclocked even if necessary. The 0.1GHZ doesn't feel much different on my friend's TF Prime. I think the spec really is dead and quad core is but a buzz word. Decide based off everything else before you make something you prolly won't even use a determining factor. Either choice is great and both are easily hackable, so go with whatever you want more! At the end of the day, back camera, double the space, a bigger screen, Motorola durability (although ASUS is good as well), the full tablet UI (not the 7's ugly half phone half tablet UI), and the fact that it has a microSD slot make it a winner to me. Good luck deciding!
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well i got the xoom saturday, its an Asian one, getting ready to put cwm and a rom on it, so far its not bad at all, wich i got a US one so i can get the ota updates to ICS and JB but its all good
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well i got the xoom saturday, its an Asian one, getting ready to put cwm and a rom on it, so far its not bad at all, wich i got a US one so i can get the ota updates to ICS and JB but its all good
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Search the Xoom forum for the how-to to flash US firmware onto your Xoom. It is the wifi model, right? If you have stock US firmware, you can get upcoming OTA. Actually, our devs will get you a better, more functional JB version in no time, so why bother with US firmware anyway.
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Search the Xoom forum for the how-to to flash US firmware onto your Xoom. It is the wifi model, right? If you have stock US firmware, you can get upcoming OTA. Actually, our devs will get you a better, more functional JB version in no time, so why bother with US firmware anyway.
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so true, all the devs on here are just great for that. i got CM9 on it now, so far so good. and yeah i have the wifi model
coming back on this one..
i m kind of in the same state.. to xoom or not to xoom?
actually xoom2.. but i m little bit confused on some sdpecs, especially the microsd issue..does it or does it not support microsd? i have find many references that supports that there is no microsd..while others support that there is..!?!?
also, do you have anyplace to recommend to buy from? (europe)
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coming back on this one..
i m kind of in the same state.. to xoom or not to xoom?
actually xoom2.. but i m little bit confused on some sdpecs, especially the microsd issue..does it or does it not support microsd? i have find many references that supports that there is no microsd..while others support that there is..!?!?
also, do you have anyplace to recommend to buy from? (europe)
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Simply put, the Xoom 2 does not, I repeat, does not have a microSD card slot and thus does not support it. At all.
The Xoom 2 is an abomination that no one should buy.
^^^lol
yeah the Xoom does have a microsd slot but you will need to upgrade it. my wifi was of the Asian persuasion so i had to get the US wifi firmware from the motodev site. once that was installed and i did all the OTA updates, the microsd slot works. actually i think it works when you hit HC 3.2
dont really know much about the Xoom2 or the Xyboard, but you can fond those specs on the motorola site
as for my Xoom, i have Codename Android 3.3.1 (JB) on it and I love it
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^^^lol
yeah the Xoom does have a microsd slot but you will need to upgrade it. my wifi was of the Asian persuasion so i had to get the US wifi firmware from the motodev site. once that was installed and i did all the OTA updates, the microsd slot works. actually i think it works when you hit HC 3.2
dont really know much about the Xoom2 or the Xyboard, but you can fond those specs on the motorola site
as for my Xoom, i have Codename Android 3.3.1 (JB) on it and I love it
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I recently had to send in my Xoom to Motorola for some hardware work, got it back wiped and on 4.0.1. Its been a long time since I have been on honeycomb, but I figured since I had a 100% wiped device, I'd flash my old stock images of 3.0 just to remind myself of how bad it was.
Reflecting back, honeycomb should have never been released to the public. It was terrible and definitely a beta product.
To my main point though, I went ahead and flashed an older recovery that only supported internal sdcard, after reflecting on how bad 3.0 was, planning to move a backup from my sdcard to the internal memory and then restore the backup. And then I was reminded...Android 3.0, the first iteration of Honeycomb, didn't support the sdcard yet. I ended up manually taking OTA update so I could get sdcard support, transfer the backup and then restore it (have since flashed TWRP).
Anyway, while I love my Xoom, its deployment last year was horribly rushed and it shows. The Xoom was plagued by a poor display (not IPS), no sdcard support on launch, beta level software, horrid marketing and silly prices.
And thats the end of my rant concerning the Xoom's history. I'm glad we have such an awesome community to support this thing; to be honest, if it wasn't a GED, I don't think we'd be so lucky.
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to be honest, if it wasn't a GED, I don't think we'd be so lucky.
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totally agree with you on that one and that is also one of the top reasons i got the Xoom
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ok, so the Nexus 7 just came out with JB and now the Xoom is scheduled to get it as an OTA as well, so should i get a Xoom (this one on Amazon http://amzn.to/LG6XAm) or the Nexus?
also how can i tell if im getting a US Xoom and not an Asian or UK one?
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For the price $400 .. it's not worth for Xoom - almost 2 years old device and may not receive future updates.
I recommend you to buy N7 or if you want bigger screen , find a refurbished Xoom on ebay (about $250 , I'm using one and everything goes fine.) or maybe Asus Transformer 1st gen. :laugh:
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For the price $400 .. it's not worth for Xoom - almost 2 years old device and may not receive future updates.
I recommend you to buy N7 or if you want bigger screen , find a refurbished Xoom on ebay (about $250 , I'm using one and everything goes fine.) or maybe Asus Transformer 1st gen. :laugh:
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maybe you should have read through this thread first. i already purchased a Xoom ($360 on amazon and well worth it), installed the U.S. wifi firmware from MotoDev which allowed me to get all the OTA updates to Jelly Bean, unlocked the bootloader, flashed a recovery and now am running custom JB roms
love my Xoom and glad i got it
no further replies are needed, thanks to everyone who helped me decide