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220MB of data used in less than 1 day. WHAT?

I just checked my t-mobile account and noticed I used 220mb of data since yesterday afternoon. How in the world is this possible if I was on wifi 90% of the time?
This sucks because I lose 4g speeds after 2GB of data.

are you sure that's only since yesterday & not from the start of your billing cycle?

I'm a brand new tmobile customer. Signed up yesterday.

Might be the T-Mobile app thing. There was somebody else complaining of high data usage and traced it back to this app.
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brian85 said:
I'm a brand new tmobile customer. Signed up yesterday.
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it's probably not accurate then

redbullcat said:
Might be the T-Mobile app thing. There was somebody else complaining of high data usage and traced it back to this app.
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hmm. source link please? i'd really like to read in to this. that app is always shown as running on my phone, even after killing it.

xnifex said:
hmm. source link please? i'd really like to read in to this. that app is always shown as running on my phone, even after killing it.
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I'll see if I can find the thread for you

Couldn't find the specific post/thread I was quoting, but I did find this, on Android Police:
Update: Don’t install this app until it gets an update – it will turn your GPS on every 10 seconds to update your location info, and won’t stop unless you Force Stop it from the Manage Applications screen. It was at 68% on my phone’s battery usage menu after 6 hours of doing little with my phone aside from checking e-mail sporadically. Yuck.
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If it's using GPS to update your location every 10 seconds, that needs data. So I suspect, if you have this app installed, this could be your problem.
Get a data usage app that tells you what app is using how much data. If it shows that it is indeed this new T-Mobile app, there's your problem
From this post: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...more-for-me-though-were-not-sure-why-exactly/
EDIT: Not the thread I was talking about (and still trying to find!) but I have found this, which may or may not be of use: Click

redbullcat said:
I'll see if I can find the thread for you
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thanks (will even press the button when link is provided)

xnifex said:
thanks (will even press the button when link is provided)
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Look above. I'm still searching for the specific thread, if/when I find it

Hmm I don't have that app installed. There are other Tmobile apps though that seem to always be running & match the Uptime of my phone.

Get Traffic Counter from the Market and trace the data.

redbullcat said:
Get Traffic Counter from the Market and trace the data.
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Just downloaded it. I'm not concerned with data (tho still want to read that post), I'm more concerned with why a lot of apps that I don't even use seem to always be on.

I think it's because they're stock apps and the default is always on. Once we have root, we should be able to get rid of them, and once we can flash ROMs, we can install stock HTC software, or Android Revolution HD
Just another reason to have s-off and root

Ok, after downloading traffic counter, it looks like it IS my fault for the excessive data usage.
It's showing the speed test app as using 130mb of data (since last reboot, which was yesterday). I admit I went a little crazy on the speedtest app yesterday and today (I've never had 4g speeds before switching to tmobile), but why does it use SO much data? I did quite a few tests, but still.

I tried that traffic counter app. XDA is killing my data 27mb. I spend to much time at this place.
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As I'm on an unlimited data plan, I don't really care about data usage. I can go up to something like 5gb and my network (giffgaff, easily the best network in the UK) doesn't really care! The only thing I can't do is tether, but I can create a wifi hotspot for when I need to get on the internet on a bigger screen
If you're in the UK, I strongly implore you to take a look at giffgaff. Link in my sig

brian85 said:
Ok, after downloading traffic counter, it looks like it IS my fault for the excessive data usage.
It's showing the speed test app as using 130mb of data (since last reboot, which was yesterday). I admit I went a little crazy on the speedtest app yesterday and today (I've never had 4g speeds before switching to tmobile), but why does it use SO much data? I did quite a few tests, but still.
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if you have a fast connection it needs to send/receiver bigger files to get an accurate account of what your speed it. if it only used like a 512KB file then it'd show your speed as 1028238234978234978MBps.
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The only thing I can't do is tether, but I can create a wifi hotspot for when I need to get on the internet on a bigger screen
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FYI that's still tethering, just wirelessly
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I think it's because they're stock apps and the default is always on. Once we have root, we should be able to get rid of them, and once we can flash ROMs, we can install stock HTC software, or Android Revolution HD
Just another reason to have s-off and root
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I'm curious then why some of the other apps show that they're running that aren't stock?

Makes sense. Time to stop using that app lol

brian85 said:
Makes sense. Time to stop using that app lol
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just did 2 tests to test the theory. 30MB down/8MB up

Amazon wifi only bypass

Is there a way to make the amazon app store believe that it has a wifi connection so that wifi only applications can be downloaded without needing wifi?
I have unlimited data and never use my wifi unless I am tethering
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Considering that non-rooted phones still have to connect to a PC to side-load the darn apps, why can't we just use the "internet passthrough" feature and use our PC's broadband connection to download the wifi-only apps?!?

I am assuming you aren't Rooted? Cuz, um I don't have to connect to my PC to side load jack.
I have not been able to find an "app" that will let me bypass the wifi.

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I am assuming you aren't Rooted? Cuz, um I don't have to connect to my PC to side load jack.
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Correct, I'm still running the stock rom (non-rooted), but I'm getting close to my annoyance limit, heh.

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I am assuming you aren't Rooted? Cuz, um I don't have to connect to my PC to side load jack.
I have not been able to find an "app" that will let me bypass the wifi.
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Sideload?!?!? What is sideloading? I kid I kid
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zuriken said:
Correct, I'm still running the stock rom (non-rooted), but I'm getting close to my annoyance limit, heh.
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And I'm assuming you haven't received the sideloading update from at&t, correct?
(I'll never understand how, even with an official sideloading update, this continues to remain an issue for some people.)

Scott_S said:
And I'm assuming you haven't received the sideloading update from at&t, correct?
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Correct. No update, so I continue to use the Wonder Machine instead.

zuriken said:
Correct. No update, so I continue to use the Wonder Machine instead.
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I never used it. the phone made it three whole days before I was rooted and stock rom was booted.
'Course I read the forums for about a month before I was able to upgrade per my ATT contract and had already downloaded everything I needed and had a folder full of apps. Lolz

tweaked said:
I never used it. the phone made it three whole days before I was rooted and stock rom was booted.
'Course I read the forums for about a month before I was able to upgrade per my ATT contract
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Well that's cool. My contract had long since expired on my AT&T Tilt 1, but I was waiting for them to get something like the EVO before I got locked-in to a phone for another 2 years.

zuriken said:
Well that's cool. My contract had long since expired on my AT&T Tilt 1, but I was waiting for them to get something like the EVO before I got locked-in to a phone for another 2 years.
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I didn't see anything worth waiting for. Dual core is to new and not used and
3d...I'm color blind so 3d is not my thing.
By the time I can upgrade again (in 1yr 4 months) quad core will be standard.

ajdrausal said:
Is there a way to make the amazon app store believe that it has a wifi connection so that wifi only applications can be downloaded without needing wifi?
I have unlimited data and never use my wifi unless I am tethering
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Any ideas on how to approach this?
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ajdrausal said:
Any ideas on how to approach this?
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At this time I am unable to find anything on bypassing the Wifi.
Google search = Nothing but ppl asking if there is one
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forum Search = ppl asking if there is one.
I had it on my Iphone and wanted it on andriod too. but it does not seem to exist.

tweaked said:
At this time I am unable to find anything on bypassing the Wifi.
Google search = Nothing but ppl asking if there is one
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forum Search = ppl asking if there is one.
I had it on my Iphone and wanted it on andriod too. but it does not seem to exist.
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Yeah that is my issue i googled hard enough

zuriken said:
Correct. No update, so I continue to use the Wonder Machine instead.
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Since apparently it hasn't updated on its own, and if you're not wanting to root, why not just call up ATT and have them push the update to your phone?
Unless there's some other reason...

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Unless there's some other reason...
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No, there's no "other" reason. I don't mind using the Wonder Machine, since I've already got my phone connected to my PC to recharge anyway.

Did 2.3.5 cripple your tether?

I posted this in two other threads but both got ignored.
As soon as I updated to the 2.3.5, tethering seems to be no longer supported. The option is there, but as soon as I activate the tether, 3G goes away. I have to turn off the tether, then manually switch mobile data off and on just for my 3G to come back.
Is this their way of getting people to finally pay for it?

Yes.. one of the features of the update was removing tether if you were not paying for it. No biggie though... you have a Nexus.. just unlock it and download one of the apps off the market.
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Since my phone had none of the reception issues this update was supposed to fix & reading alot of posts saying that it really didn't do much for those issues, I think I'll skip the update prompts & keep my free tethering.

highwayman1224 said:
Since my phone had none of the reception issues this update was supposed to fix & reading alot of posts saying that it really didn't do much for those issues, I think I'll skip the update prompts & keep my free tethering.
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Agreed I just flashed the new radio and that's good enough for me

NYYFan325 said:
Agreed I just flashed the new radio and that's good enough for me
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hmm can i just get back to 2.3.4 and flash the radio too?

Wow, Thats a bunch of Bullcrap that they removed the tether!! Oh well the Native app never worked with 4 g anyway..Just wondering, is there an app that allows us to tether in infrastructure??

nickespi said:
Wow, Thats a bunch of Bullcrap that they removed the tether!! Oh well the Native app never worked with 4 g anyway..Just wondering, is there an app that allows us to tether in infrastructure??
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yes wifi tether 3.0 pre 14 works with infrastructure i believe

Are we sure they removed tether and didn't just break it? Is it in the release notes somewhere?

Mine works fine with newest update

Mine is broken too, wifi tether works fine as always

NYYFan325 said:
Agreed I just flashed the new radio and that's good enough for me
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I would initially agree, but the speakerphone update is so much better than in 2.3.4 . I use speakerphone way more frequently than tethering..

i never used the native tethering anyway

hellcatt said:
i never used the native tethering anyway
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wireless tether for root users http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

Works fine here.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk

So you have the 2.3.5 update and no root and can use the stock wifi tether still?
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Works fine here.
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I am a little confused why Google allowed sprint to do this. Whether you you use the tether or not and regardless of how easy it is to get it back it doesn't sit well with me that Sprint is calling the shots with this phone now. One of the major appeals of this phone is the pure Google experience, which is now the partial Google experience. I wonder if this had anything to do with the delay of the OTA, maybe sprint was holding out until google let them kill the tether? Anyways, it doesn't instill a great amount of confidence in google for this phone and future nexus devices. I still like the phone and there is nothing on sprint I would rather have, I'm just a little pissed at how they tucked this into an update that was much anticipated and stripped some of our "pure googleness".

I don't understand this...i dont pay anything extra for tether, and i can still tether on stock 2.3.5. Why are some people unable?

i just flashed the new KE5 radio(found in the ns4g dev section), and im not seeing any issues. still on 2.3.4 tho.. i dont see any reasons to update to 2.3.5 especially if this is a problem. i tether wayyyy too much.

Manual versus OTA update
mcosmi said:
I don't understand this...i dont pay anything extra for tether, and i can still tether on stock 2.3.5. Why are some people unable?
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So I have a two day new Nexus S and I did the manual update last night. Now when activating the mobile hotspot the 3g or 4g icons go away and it does not have connectivity anymore.
Now, I have read conflicting info about whether this is happening just to those who did the manual update and if you did OTA it still works. Can anyone confirm this?
If that is the case, then I need to return this one and get another and just be more patient next time to get the update officially OTA. =)
Not that I am tremendously worried about the tethering/hotspot being free, but I am uneasy that doing this manually may have screwed things up in as of yet other unknown ways. Like if I do pay for hotspot/tethering someday it might still not work right, etc.
Thanks!

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mcosmi said:
I don't understand this...i dont pay anything extra for tether, and i can still tether on stock 2.3.5. Why are some people unable?
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Did you manually update or did you wait for it to be pushed to your phone? I'm stock and wasn't rooted and I manually updated and my tethering both usb and wifi hotspots are not working.
Also I notice in the kernel version that it's longer than when I was on 2.3.4 mine says 2.6.35.7-g3cc95e3 [email protected] #1
Is that normal?
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new update spys on you??

i did the update att sent me the other day and the first time i tethered after doing it was last night then this morning i get a msg from att to call them. so i did and they informed me they knew i was tethering but could not tell me how they new i was doing it. so now i am thinking about a new rom. i will reroot first and see if it replaced the tethering apk. if anyone has any information on this update please let me know. i was going to copy the msg they sent to me for the update but it conveniently del'd itself on reboot.

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i did the update att sent me the other day and the first time i tethered after doing it was last night then this morning i get a msg from att to call them. so i did and they informed me they knew i was tethering but could not tell me how they new i was doing it. so now i am thinking about a new rom. i will reroot first and see if it replaced the tethering apk. if anyone has any information on this update please let me know. i was going to copy the msg they sent to me for the update but it conveniently del'd itself on reboot.
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People have been getting nailed right and left, seemingly regardless of ROM. I don't think the update has anything to do with it, they're likely doing some packet inspection to determine what OS the packets are originating from.

when i called in regarding the nasty gram. she emphasized to update my phone. so im guess that is where it is coming from. id agree with you.

Yeah, looks like it was the update. It's weird that all of you got caught those,
I tethered a decent amount a few days ago(don't care if anyone knows, even you AT&T spies!) while my home internet was out, not a thing.
Guess we know not to use any new updates from AT&T until we find out how they detect us without tetheringmanager.apk..
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It's because you're using a stock ROM. I believe there's a service (though I can't for the life of me remember what it's called) that can detect if you're tethering or not. Custom ROMs remove the service so they can't tell.

Im on infused 2.2.3 and I tethered a little bit today and have not gotten anything yet, seems to working fine.

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Im on infused 2.2.3 and I tethered a little bit today and have not gotten anything yet, seems to working fine.
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I think the majority of people who are getting nailed are using LARGE amounts of data i know one guy posted he has used 8 gig of data just on tethering
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the most ive done is 11gb a month...

Optimus-Prime said:
the most ive done is 11gb a month...
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yea but the guy above that i mentioned is on track for using 32 + gigs .. in tethering

CheesyNutz said:
I think the majority of people who are getting nailed are using LARGE amounts of data i know one guy posted he has used 8 gig of data just on tethering
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Yeah, I used that much the other week... I've been running CM7 so I'm pretty sure that AT&T is doing some packet sniffing to see the useragent of the packets coming through. I don't think it has to do with the OS you're running.
I got a nastygram saying to stop by September 30th or they'll charge me. So far this month I've use 18gb so I'm sucking as much as I can before they cut me off!!

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the most ive done is 11gb a month...
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yea but the guy above that i mentioned is on track for using 32 + gigs .. in tethering
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Whammy!!! Double whammy!! Triple whammy!!! I thought I used net a lot cos I use close to 1.5 GB a month at peak times.. with my avg around 1 GB, and no tethering whatsoever. No wonder AT&T is tracking on tethering users.

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Whammy!!! Double whammy!! Triple whammy!!! I thought I used net a lot cos I use close to 1.5 GB a month at peak times.. with my avg around 1 GB, and no tethering whatsoever. No wonder AT&T is tracking on tethering users.
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This month is the most data I've ever used, and that's 4.2GB right now.... I don't get how you suck up so much data.... maybe lots of videos..... you know..... lol.
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Bloat Freeze to block the tethering.apk It won't phone home then ;-)
Works for me and I just updated using the recent 14MB (I think) file the other day. and tethered for a few hours....so far so good anyway.

My wife who has a Streak just got her nasty gram yesterday, now she does tether ALOT, but her phone does not even show a disclaimer for the mobile hotspot like ours does. So, i dont think it has anything to do with the update.
I dont tether alot but I do tether and most months stay around 8-10gigs. (most of that is actually on my phone, I like Netflix)
She is pissed because out where we live we do not have any high speed internet options but we have AWESOME data speeds with ATT but none of the other carriers have anything close. we thought about getting one of those mifi hotspots but ATT only has a 5gig one and that is just a joke to to think 3 teens and 2 adults are going to make that work.
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Longcat14 said:
This month is the most data I've ever used, and that's 4.2GB right now.... I don't get how you suck up so much data.... maybe lots of videos..... you know..... lol.
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Online gaming is another way. While tethering. i used to Play WoW through my cell while tethering with my old Cappy.

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actually i would be paying the same price i am not for an UNLIMITED data plan to go down to a 4gb plan that allows me to tether. But when I got my Unlimited Plan there was nothing said about not being alowed to tether my phone. to my PC actually the rep in the store showed me how to do it with my old tilt.

Lucky bastards... I'm stuck on 2GB, so tethering really isn't a viable replacement option for me.
That being said, I find it absolutely bullsh*t that you have to pay for a certain way to use your data. Why should AT&T give a damn how you use your data? I pay for 2GB, I should be able to use it, however the hell I want.

Got a letter in the mail today dying they're going to add tethering and I haven't done it in 4 months. The hell??????
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EricNagel said:
Lucky bastards... I'm stuck on 2GB, so tethering really isn't a viable replacement option for me.
That being said, I find it absolutely bullsh*t that you have to pay for a certain way to use your data. Why should AT&T give a damn how you use your data? I pay for 2GB, I should be able to use it, however the hell I want.
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Nothing to do with amount of data.. I get the letter after tethering for 5 mind last week. Actually never got the connection to work.
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EricNagel said:
Lucky bastards... I'm stuck on 2GB, so tethering really isn't a viable replacement option for me.
That being said, I find it absolutely bullsh*t that you have to pay for a certain way to use your data. Why should AT&T give a damn how you use your data? I pay for 2GB, I should be able to use it, however the hell I want.
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You haven't gotten yourself unlimited? I had someone do it for me(don't know their XDA user), and I love it.
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WIFI Tethering Mod

I noticed that the devs posted WIFI Tethering on their roms but is there a mod that allows us to do it to the stock rom? I dont want to install other roms since they made too much major modifications to the theme. The only one I dislike in their theme is the percentage battery icon.

s0cal said:
I noticed that the devs posted WIFI Tethering on their roms but is there a mod that allows us to do it to the stock rom? I dont want to install other roms since they made too much major modifications to the theme. The only one I dislike in their theme is the percentage battery icon.
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u MUST root to get that option.
it wont change the stock feel of the phone, but you need to be able to get into the system/apps and either delete Tethering manager or use TiBu to Freeze it. then you will be able to tether.

the2rrell said:
u MUST root to get that option.
it wont change the stock feel of the phone, but you need to be able to get into the system/apps and either delete Tethering manager or use TiBu to Freeze it. then you will be able to tether.
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Is that the only thing i need to freeze? I mean will ATT still know that I am tethering?

s0cal said:
Is that the only thing i need to freeze? I mean will ATT still know that I am tethering?
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From what I've read on here, AT&T can still look at the packets and might notice. But in other threads, people have noted that they tether occasionally, and don't get caught, and others said they did it once and got warned, and still others saif they did it all the time and never got caught. But, the more you do it, the more likely you'll get caught. And if you are on Unlimited Data, you have more to lose (since they'll take that away from you and add a tethering plan). That being said, you should get a warning first.

Tethering seems to be enabled by default on the Canadian "Skyrocket".

s0cal said:
Is that the only thing i need to freeze? I mean will ATT still know that I am tethering?
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They are looking for reasonz to take the unlimited thing away. So yes ur more susceptible to at&t looking into ur packets. I'm on a 2g plan and tether ALL THE TIME. but I don't stream. I just download. Its ur call.....but yes that's all u need to freeze.
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oh how i hate at&t... seriously. im within 30 days buyers remorse... thinking about switching to verizon since they got a 4gb data plan.. tempting... what should i do... any recommendations? seriously. capping or throttling data plan is ridiculous.