I have heard users say they can do it with the recently released HTC roms
So when mango offocial comes can we update in zune in this way??
Unlikely as it will possibly see it as the same version and say our devices are up to date.
Why do you want to do it via Zune?
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If you install 7720 RTM (on Omnia 7) you can't receive updates via Zune just because you already have the latest version? And when updates > 7720 will come you can receive them via Zune?
I had 7720 RTM installed but removed it because I thought I couldn't receive any offical update (including those after 7720)...
The HTC Mango ROMs are already official from HTC since these ROMs are unbranded, they don't have to go through carrier testing.
The only way to get to the official ROM via Zune is to go back to NoDo, since builds 7661 and 7712 won't be getting direct updates as these are only beta ROMs. If you have 7720 leaked RTM, Zune will report that you have the latest version installed, which is 7.10 (7720), because you have the RTM without OEM/carrier enhancements, when you want is the final release via Zune, so you will have to go back to NoDo.
I would like to point out that we were in a similar situation before with 7390. People were able to get it before the official update. I had 7390 way before the official ATT got pushed out. At the same time many argued that installing the inofficial will make it impossible to get the official update.
Zune however recognized that there was a difference between the one installed and the one pushed out from the carrier. The one noticable difference was firmware and radio that was different. Zune updated my phone from 7390 to 7390 official.
I still hope this is the case with Mango as well.
derausgewanderte said:
I would like to point out that we were in a similar situation before with 7390. People were able to get it before the official update. I had 7390 way before the official ATT got pushed out. At the same time many argued that installing the inofficial will make it impossible to get the official update.
Zune however recognized that there was a difference between the one installed and the one pushed out from the carrier. The one noticable difference was firmware and radio that was different. Zune updated my phone from 7390 to 7390 official.
I still hope this is the case with Mango as well.
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So those running the generic rtm now, When official is pushed out to zune
If zune show 2 updates
For example
Mango - 7720.68
Htc update - radio and hardware drivers
If u see this then the rtm can be updated ...
If u only see the htc update, then only the radio firmware is updated to 5.69
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So those running the generic rtm now, When official is pushed out to zune
If zune show 2 updates
For example
Mango - 7720.68
Htc update - radio and hardware drivers
If u see this then the rtm can be updated ...
If u only see the htc update, then only the radio firmware is updated to 5.69
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first, remember, this is pure speculation and maybe just wishful thinking. It worked with 7390. When the official 7390 was pushed out I saw only one update. It did not have a separate update for firmware or radio. It updated 7390 with 7390.
derausgewanderte said:
first, remember, this is pure speculation and maybe just wishful thinking. It worked with 7390. When the official 7390 was pushed out I saw only one update. It did not have a separate update for firmware or radio. It updated 7390 with 7390.
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Yes u should see the OS update . And if there is any firmware update, it will show up as well. In yr case maybe there was no new firmware being pushed out at the time of yr update. Or u already updated earlier yr firmware earlier and cannot remember it . By right, firmware updates will show as separate. It always did from 7004 to nodo, i had seen it always as separate .
According to my experience, it seems zune has a funny method of updating.
In nodo i flashed my radio using one of those ruu wrapper which does not factory reset the phone. My last official htc radio through zune was 5.65 radio , used the ruu wrapper to flash the radio only to 5.66 from one of the ansar roms from another country . What rue wrapper does is just flash the radio and nothing else. 5.65 -5.66 radio. 5.66 radio is not available in my country region, But works with my telco.
The something strange happened, when i cooneected to zune to update to mango rtm ,zune flashed my radio back to 5.65 which was my old radio. so this is not supposed happen since my radio was 5.66 which is an increment though it was not officially done in zune.so zune did not recognize my newer radio.
So i beleive zune keeps track of what it officially flashed earlier, The server then tells it to flash to new rom , then it just follows even though u may be already on a leaked updated rom of the same kind..remember all these leaked roms or betas dont use the manufacturer official servers but either MSFT ( developer resource) or custom hacker tools like romupdateutility.exe.
from these unofficial methods even though it can read and display what os u are running on, it does not make decisions based in what it reads, it just " listens" to the server pushing out the update.
Just my 2 cents worth.
So according to this - either way - those already on 7720, should see the update in Zune and be able to update...
we just have to wait and see what happens. I bet ATT will need another 2 months to get this back to MS
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7720.68 = Official. This is the RTM that they are pushing out to M$ employees. If your device manufacturer has any new updates, they will be shown after you upgrade to the 7720. For instance, when I upgraded (I have a Focus), I immediately had a "Samsung Update" that came through. Other than that you are on official. You will be able to update whenever your cell phone provider comes out with updates via Zune.
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7720.68 = Official. This is the RTM that they are pushing out to M$ employees. If your device manufacturer has any new updates, they will be shown after you upgrade to the 7720. For instance, when I upgraded (I have a Focus), I immediately had a "Samsung Update" that came through. Other than that you are on official. You will be able to update whenever your cell phone provider comes out with updates via Zune.
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I realize .68 is RTM and that some new HTC roms shipped with .68. However, there is still a large number of people who believe that we need to roll back to NoDo before we can upgrade to official Mango as it was explained in the MS beta documentation that came out for Devs to use PreMango 7661 and 7712, which then allowed us to "inofficially" upgrade with a local upgrade to 7720.68.
derausgewanderte said:
I realize .68 is RTM and that some new HTC roms shipped with .68. However, there is still a large number of people who believe that we need to roll back to NoDo before we can upgrade to official Mango as it was explained in the MS beta documentation that came out for Devs to use PreMango 7661 and 7712, which then allowed us to "inofficially" upgrade with a local upgrade to 7720.68.
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I have a contact who works at MS who told me Monday that they started rolling .68 out to some employees in a program they designed. Basically they provided an updated WP Engineering Flash Tool that allowed them to get to .68 from Zune. The unofficial way is basically the same thing but we have all the packages so we essentially skip the whole downloading of the diffs.
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I have a contact who works at MS who told me Monday that they started rolling .68 out to some employees in a program they designed. Basically they provided an updated WP Engineering Flash Tool that allowed them to get to .68 from Zune. The unofficial way is basically the same thing but we have all the packages so we essentially skip the whole downloading of the diffs.
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very cool, thanks for the information!
snickler said:
I have a contact who works at MS who told me Monday that they started rolling .68 out to some employees in a program they designed. Basically they provided an updated WP Engineering Flash Tool that allowed them to get to .68 from Zune. The unofficial way is basically the same thing but we have all the packages so we essentially skip the whole downloading of the diffs.
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so what does this mean for us?
Magpir said:
so what does this mean for us?
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throw a coin
it means that we _might_ not have to roll back.
derausgewanderte said:
throw a coin
it means that we _might_ not have to roll back.
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ok thanks for that...
derausgewanderte said:
throw a coin
it means that we _might_ not have to roll back.
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That's exactly what it means. I don't see a reason for us having to roll back if I've updated to RTM and already received a Samsung Update. That would be counterproductive and I would have to smack M$ on the wrists
also like to know if this is confirmed>
Updating RTM or leaked to official
I really hope you guys right. To u who have the leaked mango rtm installed (.68): does ur voice search through bing work, cus mine always say cant connect to servers. could be that i have chosen sweden as region and we're not officially supported yet, so hopefully this could be rolled out as a local update through zune when mango is beeing rolled out for real.
Anyone have that problem other that me, and lives in the state?
i'm one that thought was better to roll back but also because had installed lot of apps and wanted to clean a bit, now i feel bad with nodo, I want mango again
@Zebbeck: I think are you talking about Bing audio search, with that you can discover title and album cover of a song that is playing (i.e.on the radio) It worked for me and I don't think if works also as voice search
(I had leaked mango RTM before)
I flashed my 7 Pro to the Mango update found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254384
Everything is working great but I'm not sure if when/if HTC release an update to enable tethering if I will recieve the update since I did not wait for the official update through Zune.
My phone was bought sim-free if that makes a difference?
yes, thats the full official mango rom from HTC with all the latest firmware already baked in, most ppl didnt use this because it formats your phone so does nto preserve their setting and aps builtup over time.
You wont get any update on Zune untill a new update is availale after Mango or post firmware updates. You basicly have what everyone wants so go forth and be happy
I just replaced my LG Optimus 7 for a new one, after it died. Unfortunately I now do not receive any updates and can't really figure out why.
I looked through xdadevelopers and other boards already but could not find any help.
My problem: Zune searches for updates but ends in telling me that my phone is up to date 7.0 (7004). On my old phone I received all updates as I should have received them... But not on the new one.
What I already tried without any success:
- Tried the update on two different machines with latest Zune
- Tried it already for half a week to see if it just takes a while
- Rest the phone to defaults
- Also tried the trick to disconnect the PC from the network that worked for the Mango update. Also not successful
Phone: LG Optimus 7
FW: 7.0 (7004)
Carrierbranding: OPN
Carrier used: Swisscom, in Switzerland
I am really grateful for any kind of advice! Thanks so much!
Maybe your carrier hasnt provided updates after 7004 update
amritpal2489 said:
Maybe your carrier hasnt provided updates after 7004 update
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I am using an unbranded phone now (OPN). The one before was Swisscom-branded and I got all updates.
I suggest you flash your phone with a different ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935578
day2die said:
I suggest you flash your phone with a different ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935578
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Thanks! Flashed to a branded ROM, now everything is working fine again, must have had a weird SW image...
Any one got tango update on their samsung omnia w or focus flash?or on any other samsung windows phone?
No, I am updating it manually... I'm from Brazil.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27960331&postcount=929
godoy.rafa said:
No, I am updating it manually... I'm from Brazil.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27960331&postcount=929
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did you successfully updated it? Im having problem with my zune, coz it says, "cannot check updates at this time". they might be preparing an update. but... still not sure if i will still keep my phone. Maybe i will sell it later.
Use the cab sender method. It worked great for me.
So I used the disconnect internet trick and got Tango to install on my phone. Problem is, it stopped with the 3 updates and did not install (or find) the Samsung one that I know was supposed to be installed (for firmware), so my firmware is now 2103.11.10.1 instead of what it is supposed to be.
Does anyone know a way to force the OEM firmware to be sent to Zune. The internet disconnect trick isn't work now, so I'm stuck. Also, my backups aren't showing up, even though during the update process it said it was creating a backup (for all the OS updates it installed all the way up to 8773).
If there is no way to get the OEM firmware to be pushed, does anyone know how to get the Focus Flash to stock? I know I have a backup on my computer, but Zune isn't recognizing it (I had forced 8107 on my phone, and Zune made a backup of that ROM).
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Use the cab sender method. It worked great for me.
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im getting this error
Error: The installed version of ZuneWMDU (4.8.2345.0) doesn't match the tool ver
sion (4.8.2134.0).
Top tip!
Hi,
Just reset your phone, format it and then go on with setting up your windows live id. Once fully synchronised, then switch over to zune and go to settings and press forget this phone, after which just connect your phone and you'll get all the updates steady!
Worked well for my Omnia W here at Dubai.
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tango update for omnia w is out there is way to force zune player for update; get it here
Samsung Omnia w tango update is out
Guys any news on Samsung focus (1st generation) tango update?
thanks a lot
Update
owenliu said:
thanks a lot
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Just Get the TANGO Update....... (Samsung omnia w{DEV UNLC})
There is no reason to update Omnia W, ver 8107 already have all the things, at least unbranded versions.
Next step for Omnia W is 7.8
So I used the disconnect internet trick and got Tango to install on my phone. Problem is, it stopped with the 3 updates and did not install (or find) the Samsung one that I know was supposed to be installed (for firmware), so my firmware is now 2103.11.10.1 instead of what it is supposed to be.
Does anyone know a way to force the OEM firmware to be sent to Zune. The internet disconnect trick isn't work now, so I'm stuck. Also, my backups aren't showing up, even though during the update process it said it was creating a backup (for all the OS updates it installed all the way up to 8773).
If there is no way to get the OEM firmware to be pushed, does anyone know how to get the Focus Flash to stock? I know I have a backup on my computer, but Zune isn't recognizing it (I had forced 8107 on my phone, and Zune made a backup of that ROM).
I just updated to Tango using the cab sender on my Focus Flash. Everything worked fine. My firmware ver. is the same as yours. It has been that rev since as far as i can remember. I don't think there is a firmware newer than that for the Focus Flash.
Firmware is 2103.11.10.1
OS ver is 7.10.8773.98
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I just updated to Tango using the cab sender on my Focus Flash. Everything worked fine. My firmware ver. is the same as yours. It has been that rev since as far as i can remember. I don't think there is a firmware newer than that for the Focus Flash.
Firmware is 2103.11.10.1
OS ver is 7.10.8773.98
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Someone at wpcentral posted this for their Focus Flash:
Look like Firmware Update, Radio Software, BootLoader
Firmware Revision 2103.12.05.04
Hardware Revision Number 23.1.0.8
Radio Software Version: 2103.12.5.4
Radio Hardware Version: 0.0.0.6
BootLoader Version 6.5.17.0
Chip SOC Version 0.74.21.1
So there must be one out there (plus, everyone else has been receiving firmware updates, like Nokia, so I can't see Samsung not making one).
Since you used the debrand trick to update to 8107, you'll most likely have to reset your phone to get the Samsung update. I did the same thing & then did the cab send method to update to 8773. Didn't have any problems. Kept trying to get the Samsung update via the disconnect trick. No luck. As soon as I reset my phone, it popped right up. I'm installing it now. Good luck.
Steve