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I recently upgraded from the CM7 stock ADW.Launcher (1.3.6) to ADWLauncher EX 1.2.2.
Firstly, I want to support the Dev of one of the best and most popular Apps out there.
The Feature I was most interested in was the ability to edit the Menu (I hate that More \|/ dropdown, totally unnecessary clicking).
When I try to do this:
Menu>More>ADWSettings>General Behavior>System Preferences>Customize Menu>
and then uncheck items, and/or move them around, the changes don't stick when I go back to my Home Screen.
Or more accurately, they stick about 1 in 20 tries, but I have found no rhyme or reason to it.
Anyone else experienced this same problem?
I was also discussing this on the CM Forum
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/18309-force-adwlauncher-settings-into-settings-menu/
And I'll post a comment directly on the ADWLauncher EX page as well
http://jbthemes.com/anderweb/2011/01/adwlauncher-ex-1-2-2-released/#comments
Workaround
Well, I think this is almost certainly a bug, but I did figure out a workaround.
Menu>More>ADWSettings>General Behavior>System Preferences>Customize Menu>
Make the change(s) you want
Press Back button
Click back into Customize Menu>
Make the change(s) you want again
Press Home button
A way to put the ADW Launcher EX menu back into the settings menu?
ScottHW said:
I was also discussing this on the CM Forum
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/18309-force-adwlauncher-settings-into-settings-menu/
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I read your post on the other forum and was wondering if you or others have found a way to put the ADW Launcher EX menu back into the settings menu?
Once I purchased the EX version, made it my default, and deleted the regular ADW launcher, the ADW menu disappeared from the settings menu. I also tried to use root manager and move the file to /system/app folder from the /data/app, rebooted but nothing shows up.
Anyone have a solution to this?
No solution yet
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I read your post on the other forum and was wondering if you or others have found a way to put the ADW Launcher EX menu back into the settings menu?
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Sorry to say, I haven't really come up with anything yet.
For the time being, I have settled on using the Customize Menu option, according to the hack I described above.
Since my [REQUEST] in the CM forum went totally unresponded, I think I will submit it in the Bug Tracker.
Skrki was discussing how Requests should be best handled, but until a more unified (and possibly democratic) approach is implemented, I think I'll just double-post in the Forums and Bug Tracker, and give links to each other.
I asked some devs here as well and they don't seem to know either... Let us know here if anyone reponds to you from the CM forums with an answer thanks!
This continues to be an issue...Customize Menu still does nothing, the workaround previously mentions seems to have some effect, but half of the menu items don't show up at all, regardless of what I do.
It's driving me nuts that I can't access the "Manage Apps" or "Remove Catalog" options...I don't even know what they do but they sound useful.
Has any progress been made on this?
I've tried using the workaround. It works, but not for the "Manage Apps". It is listed as enabled, but doesn't show. By far my most used menu item on stock, wish I could have it here.
I also found that the customize dock bar options dont stick either. Not sure what the issue is
So glad I found this thread confirming that I'm not crazy. No matter what I do the 'Manage Apps' button doesn't show up. Everything else seems to work fine, but this one button doesn't show. This happened on both my stock unrooted Nexus One and on a CM7 Nexus one (both with ADW Launcher EX). Since its been awhile anyone has posted here, as anyone found a solution yet?
Thanks.
I tried searching the forums and found nothing...
Like a lot of others, i dont like most of the applications that come bundled on my phone and like to get rid of most of them. I cant seem to figure out what .apk file to remove to get rid of the "Kidzone" application. Any ideas?
If any root-level file explorer works, download Absolute System from the Market. It's about two bucks but it's worth it. You can use it to remove any bloatware from your device.
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If any root-level file explorer works, download Absolute System from the Market. It's about two bucks but it's worth it. You can use it to remove any bloatware from your device.
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Not in this case. We do not have S-OFF.
Freezing the apps with titanium backup lasts between reboots, luckily. Won't remove them completely but they will be prevented from running or showing in the app drawer.
Only problem is I'm having trouble finding the package names of a couple bloatware apps, namely kidzone, highlight, friend stream and t-mobile mall. If anyone could find the names of those packages it would be great. I'll look up the names of the apps I did find in a little while and post them for you.
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Freezing the apps with titanium backup lasts between reboots, luckily. Won't remove them completely but they will be prevented from running or showing in the app drawer.
Only problem is I'm having trouble finding the package names of a couple bloatware apps, namely kidzone, highlight, friend stream and t-mobile mall. If anyone could find the names of those packages it would be great. I'll look up the names of the apps I did find in a little while and post them for you.
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Download Absolute System from the Market.
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vimk said:
Freezing the apps with titanium backup lasts between reboots, luckily. Won't remove them completely but they will be prevented from running or showing in the app drawer.
Only problem is I'm having trouble finding the package names of a couple bloatware apps, namely kidzone, highlight, friend stream and t-mobile mall. If anyone could find the names of those packages it would be great. I'll look up the names of the apps I did find in a little while and post them for you.
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I cant figure out what process is Kidzone either, but i think the T-Mobile mall was called "AppPack" (MallLite-4.0.92.apk)
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I cant figure out what process is Kidzone either, but i think the T-Mobile mall was called "AppPack" (MallLite-4.0.92.apk)
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also tried removing the app pack, and it does not remove "kidzone"
Kidzone appears to basically be a locked down version of the home screen that only lets you turn on Youtube, Internet, Bejeweled, and T-Mobile TV from that screen. It requires you to setup a password for the lock screen. It appears to be built into sense. It's not really an application. Mostly a replacement lock screen. There's nothing "kid" about it honestly.
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Kidzone appears to basically be a locked down version of the home screen that only lets you turn on Youtube, Internet, Bejeweled, and T-Mobile TV from that screen. It requires you to setup a password for the lock screen. It appears to be built into sense. It's not really an application. Mostly a replacement lock screen. There's nothing "kid" about it honestly.
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Is there a way to remove the shortcut from the app drawer?
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Is there a way to remove the shortcut from the app drawer?
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I second that request!
I made a thread in "themes and apps" about cleaning up bloat - still no luck on kidzone though.
I am fiddling around with dumping sense now, that will probably do it. I'll post back here if I can figure out how to make kidzone go away.
Meantime - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16739548#post16739548
okay - sorry to post after myself but I got rid of kidzone.
First, I restored a CWM backup I made right after root/busybox installation.
So, my phone state is fresh S-OFF/Root with SU & busybox installed.
It may be important to note that I did a factory reset to my phone just before S-OFF/Root & had a freshly formatted MicroSD card.
I then installed ADW Launcher from the Market, and hit my "home" key. Selected "Use Default" and chose ADW Launcher.
Now my phone defaults to ADW as it's launcher.
I then installed "Absolute System" from the Market, and used it to remove "HTC Sense"
Closed out Absolute System, then scrolled between all 5 ADW desktop screens, powered down the phone, then powered up again. (*NOTE fastboot = off)
Booted fine, was able to ditch sense without issue, and KIDZONE IS GONE!
As always, make sure to do a fresh system backup before messing with anything like this, but Kidzone is linked to sense, and replacing sense with another launcher will remove it.
HTC Sense was the only app removed from the phone, and I haven't checked everything to make sure it works yet, but no HTC crash report to send, and no force close issues. (yet - to be determined)
I've been itching to ditch sense since I got the phone, and this was my first quick test at it. Works good so far.
Edit to add:
Checked the "personalize" option at the top of the "settings" list. This just brings you back to the main desktop, doesn't throw an error.
I knew this one thing would be messed up somehow after ditching sense, but the fact that it doesn't make a problem and just closes the menu is fine by me.
I'll spend the rest of the day testing out my phone without sense to see how it runs. I'll post back how it went tomorrow.
Edit - 11/01/2011:
When I said "without sense" I meant without the sense launcher. I expanded on and clarified that in another thread (that app thread) but never cleared it up here.
To fully remove sense is one heck of a project, and will take much more then just switching your launcher.
This is great info - but with this last method - can you still use the stock/factory camera app? Is the camera fully functional, it might not be a big deal to some but would be cool to retain full factory camera functionality.
Wow, feels like going back in time -
Yep, stock camera app works fine.
It's tied to sense, and there is no true AOSP ROM out there yet, so pretty much no matter what you do you should keep stock camera functionality.
Actually, keeping the stock camera functionality/app is the main reason why there is no AOSP ROM yet, it's been generally decided that losing that would be...undesirable.
Kidzone is part of Rosie.apk, which is the Sense launcher. You lose it once you switch to another launcher (adw, go, etc...) and uninstall rosie.apk
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Wow, feels like going back in time -
Yep, stock camera app works fine.
It's tied to sense, and there is no true AOSP ROM out there yet, so pretty much no matter what you do you should keep stock camera functionality.
Actually, keeping the stock camera functionality/app is the main reason why there is no AOSP ROM yet, it's been generally decided that losing that would be...undesirable.
Kidzone is part of Rosie.apk, which is the Sense launcher. You lose it once you switch to another launcher (adw, go, etc...) and uninstall rosie.apk
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Exactly.. + 1 for blue.
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Hi everyone. First of all, many thanks to Gary for Root. It was quick and painless.
Now that we have root, I was wondering if anyone knows what needs to be deleted in order to get rid of that pesky pop up menu you get by pressing on the Chevron/Arrow in the middle of the bar.
I have the Wizz Bar (what an unfortunate name) installed and it does the job so much better. If you're wondering what Wizz Bar is, it basically allows you to pick your own applications or commands and bind them to the little Chevron or Arrow in the middle of the Honeycomb Bar (also called the "Mini Apps Tray")
However the built in action that pops up the Task Manager/World Clock/Calculator etc also initiates. Is there some way to remove the TouchWiz Apps Tray?
Or does this require more tinkering than a simple apk deletion from system/apps
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Or does this require more tinkering than a simple apk deletion from system/apps
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It's much more involved. That aspect of touchwiz is buried somewhere in the frameworks. The last time I checked (a month ago), several people on both the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and 8.9 forums were looking for the same thing, but I haven't seen any good solutions.
If you find something over in one of those forums, try to get information on HOW they did it, and I'll try to reproduce it with ours.
I know with HTC phones modding such things requires the knowledge of decompiling, compling and signing apk's using apkTool or apkManager and editing smalis in notepad ++. You would have to track down which particular file contains the code and then know how to edit it to hide the taskbar. As an example just the simple task of hiding the clock in the notification bar of my HTC Incredible phone required the addition of 2 lines of code in the clock.smali file inside SystemUI.apk and the only way to get it to work was to push the file back to the phone and set permissions with adb. You couldn't just copy and paste it back in.
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I actually did go look at a bunch of 10.1 and 8.9 ROMs and it looks like there may be a solution out there. I've contacted one of the ROM developers for an answer.
If someone tells you what file to edit and what lines of code to use please post it as it will be useful to the community.
You may install honeybar form market to hide/unhide the bottom bar(notification and clock as well)
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i just tried honeybar and it doesn't work for me. I also have go launcher ex installed so not sure if it's conflicting. I see the white box for honeybar, but pressing on it multiple times does nothing (it even goes away eventually as described in the install notes).
Honeybar isn't the solution that most of us are looking for. I myself love the Honeycomb default bar. It's the Mini-Apps Tray that is entirely useless. The least that Samsung could have done was to make the shortcuts changeable by the user.
The whole point of quick access to shortcuts is to have a quick access to the applications you use the most without flipping through homescreens or going to the Apps Tray. Thanks Samsung, I really need the World Time and Calculator more than I need the Browser and Settings Panel.
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Hi everyone. First of all, many thanks to Gary for Root. It was quick and painless.
Now that we have root, I was wondering if anyone knows what needs to be deleted in order to get rid of that pesky pop up menu you get by pressing on the Chevron/Arrow in the middle of the bar.
I have the Wizz Bar (what an unfortunate name) installed and it does the job so much better. If you're wondering what Wizz Bar is, it basically allows you to pick your own applications or commands and bind them to the little Chevron or Arrow in the middle of the Honeycomb Bar (also called the "Mini Apps Tray")
However the built in action that pops up the Task Manager/World Clock/Calculator etc also initiates. Is there some way to remove the TouchWiz Apps Tray?
Or does this require more tinkering than a simple apk deletion from system/apps
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I've wondered whether there was a way to intercept the trigger that touching the chevron activates and just redirecting it to another command (such as what happens when you hit the "home" button after you've installed a home replacement). That way we wouldn't have to worry about hacking the touchwiz dock for customizing, we just replace it altogether so something else is invoked by touching the shortcut.
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I've wondered whether there was a way to intercept the trigger that touching the chevron activates and just redirecting it to another command (such as what happens when you hit the "home" button after you've installed a home replacement). That way we wouldn't have to worry about hacking the touchwiz dock for customizing, we just replace it altogether so something else is invoked by touching the shortcut.
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Re-mapping the function would be more involved than just turning it off but it is possible if you know what you're doing. For HTC phones there's a mod called rosie remap which does just about the same thing but its a complicated hack. It remaps a + button on the phone that ads apps to the homescreen, the mod allows you to reassign the button so it opens any app you want. I believe this is a framework-res.apk mod. Eventually someone who is familar with touchwiz will do these mods, if they haven't already for the 8.9 or 10.1, which should all be pretty much the same.
Edit: I think the chevron function would be in the touchwiz apk located in system/app but I don't know what Samsung calls it. HTC calls their Sense UI Rosie and you mod Rosie.apk to do the remapping of their UI specific buttons. If the chevron is part of honeycomb itself then it would be in the framework-res.apk file I bbelieve.
This is good info flowing in. I'm gonna see if I can figure out some more.
On a positive note - guess what Samsung changed? Exactly what I was *****ing about :
Mini Apps : Upgraded so you can choose and edit your own Mini Apps tray. You can easily access favorite features such as Calendar, Email, or PenMemo as a pop up over full screen applications.
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On a positive note - guess what Samsung changed? Exactly what I was *****ing about :
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Was there an update that I don't know about that allows this??? I really like the idea of the mini app tray, but like was said before, not having the ability to put your most used apps there makes it pretty useless.
Please explain how apps can now (or in the near future) be changed in the tray.
Thanks!!!
I guess until they release 7.7 we won't know. Unless there's an update out on KIES. But I really doubt it.
Confirmed:7.7 has fully customisable mini apps tray...i'm disappointed in Samsung for releasing 'premium' products in such close succession that are so different in functionality. Why did they not include this basic and important feature on all new of their new tablet products? I actually feel somewhat conned now
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rEVOLVE said:
i just tried honeybar and it doesn't work for me. I also have go launcher ex installed so not sure if it's conflicting. I see the white box for honeybar, but pressing on it multiple times does nothing (it even goes away eventually as described in the install notes).
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doesn't go launcher ex look like **** on the tab+? i installed it yesterday and when i found out that i can't remove the dock, i uninstalled it.
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doesn't go launcher ex look like **** on the tab+? i installed it yesterday and when i found out that i can't remove the dock, i uninstalled it.
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Pare, actually like it better because i don't like stock honeycomb desktop and app drawer. I set swipe up gesture to hide/unide the dock and also changed the stock dock icons.
Once we're able to customize the Touchwiz shortcuts, or hijack the launch command so we can tell it to launch something else, I'll be much happier.
For those who've not seen this function in action yet, check it out in this video at 2.05: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=tBpzweqvKJA
Surely Samsung can put this function in tab plus on an update ... and they need to. The app tray is almost functionless otherwise. The presence of this thread is sufficient evidence that there is a high demand and several unsatisfied customers. Many customers have spent over £400 on this tablet. Why did they put it onto the 7.7 which was going on sale only a few days/weeks after the tab plus?
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Just for my two cents, I would also like to see the app tray made editable. I've only had my unit for a couple of days, and I already feel its wasted on me for what it holds. Hoping for that to change in a coming update.
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On a positive note - guess what Samsung changed? Exactly what I was *****ing about :
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Where is this "mini apps?" Did I miss something?
In stock I used folders on my panels to organize the many apps I play with, its my first smartphone so i'm toying with all sorts of things. Recently I flashed Supreme Sense 9.1 (it pretty) and while redoing my setup I noticed an odd quirk with the folders.
I have a folder named Games
I link an app onto the panel
Then move said app to the folder
Open folder, see app, launch it
Play around a bit exit using home key
Usually i'm exiting in landscape mode
Taken to home panel, swipe over to my app panel
Folder is open, no apps showing within it
Anyone else? If they work for anyone else, i'll probably try reflashing. As a side note, is Sense 3.0 completely incapable of landscape think I read that here somewhere.
Dogan
Might try Mikshifted, read that executive is damn sexy too
Why all the extra steps . Sense 3.0 is now capable of Landscape. Apparently a Rom from the HTC Flyer Tablet has been ported over. The Executive Theme is Awesome. Only issue is that as of right now it has not been updated to work with MikShifted G v2.0 .
Yea like prboy said the HTC flyer ROM is here and it is awesome IMO. Im a flashaholic and ive stayed with it since its release to the shift
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Why all the extra steps .
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Cause I didn't know of another way and thats how I discovered it... first smartphone (smarter than me? )
prboy1969 said:
Sense 3.0 is now capable of Landscape. Apparently a Rom from the HTC Flyer Tablet has been ported over.
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Sweet, I'll look around for that. I'd like to see it in something other than a port, wondering if the Shift ROM dev's are considering adding it due to our keyboard ability.
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The Executive Theme is Awesome. Only issue is that as of right now it has not been updated to work with MikShifted G v2.0 .
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Which I will probably try out if/when it comes out.
If I am wrong about the folders, how so... perhaps its a procedural error (apparently I load folders counter-intuitively) that I can fix that would solve my problem or is it a bug/incorrect flash that i'm dealing with here?
Dogan
Thanks BTW.
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Yea like prboy said the HTC flyer ROM is here and it is awesome IMO. Im a flashaholic and ive stayed with it since its release to the shift
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Well I'm not all that about it
. I'm sure it's great I just cannot give an opinion as I have not tried it. Was just letting him know of the option .
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Cause I didn't know of another way and thats how I discovered it... first smartphone (smarter than me? ) Sweet, I'll look around for that. I'd like to see it in something other than a port, wondering if the Shift ROM dev's are considering adding it due to our keyboard ability.Which I will probably try out if/when it comes out.
If I am wrong about the folders, how so... perhaps its a procedural error (apparently I load folders counter-intuitively) that I can fix that would solve my problem or is it a bug/incorrect flash that i'm dealing with here?
Dogan
Thanks BTW.
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If you want to make a shortcut to something just long press on the panel in the spot you want the item. When the pop up menu comes up choose a widget for the item if avaiable. Or choose the App itself, that's it.
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prboy1969 said:
If you want to make a shortcut to something just long press on the panel in the spot you want the item. When the pop up menu comes up choose a widget for the item if avaiable. Or choose the App itself, that's it.
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I get that part, I do that to get an app shortcut on the panel. Then I can move that shortcut into a folder. The reason I did this is, Should I have 6 panels full of widgets leaving 1 panel for applications. There are only, what 12 spots for application shortcuts? Now as a new guy in this wonderful world of handheld computing, I'm experimenting with all sorts of games and apps. I got a heck of a lot more than 12 and my apps list is huge making it a hassle to scroll the list. That is when I found the folder ability, where in stock I can put a folder onto the panel. I can then place the app shortcuts into this panel folder and open it... like a category.
Say I'm going to my phone to play around with some pictures I just took. I swipe over to my apps panel, click on the tools folder, choose from my selection of image editing apps that I put there. This to me is better than scrolling through 5+ pages of apps on the full list. Currently I can do all that (as I could in stock), but when I exit the application it empties the folder of app shortcuts. On top of that, the folder remains open and it seems clicking on the close folder X clicks behind it forcing me to hit a small sweet spot above the X that closes the folder on the panel. Brain screams Bug, but being new to all this thought perhaps it could be some lingering bit caused by an app data restore or bad/incomplete flash.
It seems we're not on the same panel. No worries, just thought i'd verify this seemingly odd behavior before I moved on. Thanks for taking the time and tackling all that code.
Dogan
Not ungrateful
Ok I think I'm getting what your trying to do now. Why don't you create a folder Shortcut on a panel. Then just move the app to that. That way the folder shortcut just open to a bunch of apps of you choosing. So theoretically you can have 12 Folders per panel.
Alright I think I have it figured out, but I don't know exactly why it does it because its not my ROM (I just enjoy using it). Seems to be a RAM issue, more specifically a RAM clearing/freeing system that causes it. Oddly, everytime I try to video the bug it doesn't do it or does something else entirely. Was extremely repeatable until then.
First time I tried to video it, the live wallpaper freaked out, compressed to 1/4 of the side and folder contents were retained. Second time, nothing happened and I'm not willing to take 30min of gameplay video to better test it. I don't think anyone has the time or care to test this right now, but next time you get a fresh Supreme Sense build and before you restore your backup put a large RAM intensive app on there and link a shortcut into a folder. Run the app and play for a while, pretty sure I'm doing 30 - 60min as I'm laying in bed prior to sleep. Exit app, go back to folder and the bug that I get shows up... Folder remains open, shortcuts are gone, folder is behind other shortcuts on that panel in terms of touching but on top of other shortcuts visually (I have google search bar on that panel on the top row, trying to close folder opens the voice search interface instead).
What clued me in, was juice defender's log claiming low ram and how juice defender was in danger of being killed automatically to free up ram. I'll test it out a few more times after extended play in the upcoming nights. There is a possibility that my recent install of Juice Defender solved it by denying background applications their usual access to data thus freeing up RAM.
BTW, flashed an ICS theme... Should call this combo Supreme Sexier 9.1
Dogan
This was a bug report written as a question cause noobs can't post in developer threads.
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Alright I think I have it figured out, but I don't know exactly why it does it because its not my ROM (I just enjoy using it). Seems to be a RAM issue, more specifically a RAM clearing/freeing system that causes it. Oddly, everytime I try to video the bug it doesn't do it or does something else entirely. Was extremely repeatable until then.
First time I tried to video it, the live wallpaper freaked out, compressed to 1/4 of the side and folder contents were retained. Second time, nothing happened and I'm not willing to take 30min of gameplay video to better test it. I don't think anyone has the time or care to test this right now, but next time you get a fresh Supreme Sense build and before you restore your backup put a large RAM intensive app on there and link a shortcut into a folder. Run the app and play for a while, pretty sure I'm doing 30 - 60min as I'm laying in bed prior to sleep. Exit app, go back to folder and the bug that I get shows up... Folder remains open, shortcuts are gone, folder is behind other shortcuts on that panel in terms of touching but on top of other shortcuts visually (I have google search bar on that panel on the top row, trying to close folder opens the voice search interface instead).
What clued me in, was juice defender's log claiming low ram and how juice defender was in danger of being killed automatically to free up ram. I'll test it out a few more times after extended play in the upcoming nights. There is a possibility that my recent install of Juice Defender solved it by denying background applications their usual access to data thus freeing up RAM.
BTW, flashed an ICS theme... Should call this combo Supreme Sexier 9.1
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This was a bug report written as a question cause noobs can't post in developer threads.
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Ok so I have a few questions. You mentioned a Ram issue. Did you do a FULL Wipe, like the one mentioned in the link in my Sig? You also mentioned Restoring your backup. Did you mean that you restored Data with Titanium Backup, or a similar app? Because restoring Data for System Apps, and sometimes even Games. Has been known to cause issues, and glitches. Also, Juice Defender IMO causes more issues than anything else. IMO Task Killers in general are not a good idea. They usually use more memory than the save.
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Ok so I have a few questions. You mentioned a Ram issue. Did you do a FULL Wipe, like the one mentioned in the link in my Sig? You also mentioned Restoring your backup. Did you mean that you restored Data with Titanium Backup, or a similar app? Because restoring Data for System Apps, and sometimes even Games. Has been known to cause issues, and glitches. Also, Juice Defender IMO causes more issues than anything else. IMO Task Killers in general are not a good idea. They usually use more memory than the save.
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I did a full wipe after restoring from a nandroid backup
I followed the wipe&flash directions in the video linked in the supreme sense thread
They're a little different, only 1x each instead of 3x and without step 9 (reboot wipe cache & dalvik cache again)
Very likely it could have been while restoring with Titanium. Pretty sure that might have been what sunk Cyanomod since after a full restore via Titanium it locked up on reboot(waited 15min never got past loading screen). With SupremeSense I believe I selectively restored SMS, Contacts, App Data. Juice Defender was installed after the issue was noticed, it just gave me a log with info on what else was going on by chance. For now I think it is just me which is okay, although the backup causing issues is rather annoying.
Dogan
I need to do more app research
Do a Full Wipe according to the Guide. Then don't restore anything, drive it around for a few hours as is. See if any issues pop up. Then restore your items one by one, try not to restore any data. That way you'll be able to pinpoint the issue.
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It will probably be a while before I opt to chance losing everything again. So I figure I'll just thank you for your persistent assistance now and use the more thorough flashing followed by an extended break-in period before restoring with the next ROM that catches my eye.
Dogan
90% of my wants are met by SupremeSense 9.1
We'll at least till the next release of Supreme Sense
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MikROMs Since 3/13/11
Went from a G2 to this One S yesterday. I'm not too impressed.
No dedicated menu button
There is enough room for one on the bottom but they only put 3.
What happens now is that Android (or Sense or something) detects when there are menu options and puts a button on the screen for it taking away real estate from the application.
No trackball
I used this a lot on my G2 especially on web pages with small links that I didn't want to missclick. I already miss it. I also used the trackball wake feature in CM on my G2. Now there is only one way to turn the screen on and its a little hard to do one handed. The trackball was in a very natural position to turn on with your thumb. Now without it, it is very awkward to power on with your thumb, you have to hold it very high and I'm affraid of dropping it. Alternatively I could turn it on with my index finger but it spreads my hand way out and still feels weird.
No folders
I'm not sure if this is an ICS thing or a Sense thing (because this phone is an unholy bastardization), but I can't figure out a way to create folders on my home screens. I'm not talking about the Sense folders for applications either. In normal Android builds you can add shortcuts, widgets, folders. The Pandora application shipped with a folder called "My Stations" or something like that. I used this because it only took up 1x1 on a homescreen and let me choose which station was opened. Without it, you need to open the application and it immediately starts playing the last radio station. This is annoying.
Resolution
The DPI isn't any better than my G2, its just a bigger screen. This is pretty disappointing. I would like a crisper display in a flagship device.
Bloat
Its pretty bad. I know most users want Facebook, Twitter, Dropbox, etc... but how about you let us select what we want during the phone setup.
Misc
This is my first Sense device and my first ICS device so again, not sure where this crap is coming from.... When you install an application it creates a shortcut for it on one of your home screens. Putting a shortcut is the simplist thing you can do in Android, why not leave it for the use to do if they want to do it.
On my way to work I was listening to I Heart Radio and while the live streams were okay when I went to the "pandora"-like functionality it would only play one song and then stop. This never happened on my G2. Don't know whats going on here.
I don't care for the browser (which they stupidly call "internet").
I don't care for all of the account options. I went to share a page in the browser, I wanted to email it to myself. So when I went to share page it let me select how to share it. I got "Facebook for HTC Sense", "Mail", "Twitter for HTC Sense", and "Dropbox". I did set up Facebook, but I did not set up mail, twitter, or dropbox. What I wanted was GMail which I had to select "See all..." Then I saw a plethora of garbage bloat that they bundle with the phone and had to scroll down to get to GMail. After I went though this experience I went to share another page to see if GMail showed up at the top... it didn't.
I'm sure I'll have more complaints the more I use it. I used my fiance's upgrade for this one but I get an upgrade in 3 months. If CM9 isn't out by then she'll be using this phone and I'll upgrade to a SGSIII or that yet to be named quad-core LG phone.
Summary
CM9 can't come fast enough.
EDIT
I'll add some good things here.
Good things
Again, this is coming from a G2 so in 2 years things should be better anyways....
It is very thin, and very light.
It has a front facing camera which my G2 did not.
The flashlight, though not as bright as the "High Brightness" Cyanogenmod setting on the G2, is still pretty bright.
The speaker seems to put out a lot of sound. Can't attest to the quality yet but the volume is there.
EDIT #2
Some more good and bad....
Skype Useless
... probably related to Wifi crackling. One of the things I was looking forward to with this phone was the ability to make video calls via Skype. My fiance has an iPad2, my in-laws each have a G2X, and my brother has a SGSII. Skype is useless on this device. There is echoing / cracking and video lag even when on Wifi. I called my brother with this One S and it was useless. I then called him on an iPad2 and it was great. I'm wondering if the problem has to do with Beats Audio. We'll have to wait for an AOSP ROM without Beats to find out.
So I unlocked/rooted/ROM'd ...
I am now running Black Dragon 4.0. I LOVE the menu hack to get rid of the stupid 3 dot menu on all the screens. I like that they kept the ability to longpress home to get the default behavior as well. The launcher seems nice though I haven't played with it too much (which is a good thing, means they have good defaults).
Can't wait for the kernel sources to be released so we can make some more CM9 progress. I really miss the buttons in the dropdown for wifi, brightness, bluetooth, etc. Now I have to dropdown, click settings, scroll down and find brighness.
How's the battery life? My G2 has some HORRENDOUS battery... like it can drain 20% an hour... I go to school for like 6/7 hours and I can leave with like a <20% battery life. Currently using MIUI because that seems to be the best battery life.
Edit: As for a menu button, Google is trying to get rid of that. I read a post about it a couple of months ago. They say it was useless. I completely disagree because I use it quite a lot. I use it way more than the search button which I have literally probably used less than 30 times and I've been on an Android device since the G1 came out.
For everything you just said mostly there are workarounds.
The deidcated menu button now exists through roms...the three button thing on screen is removed. Change of dpi works fine on no sense roms I'm set on 195 on sense not as good. Play market you can stop adding apps onto screens
Bloat just remove yourself root explorer..
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Battery lifes good also...
As I said workarounds exist
Also get a different launcher and ditch sense or just get Nova or apex
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Love this. G2 FOORRREEEVVVAAAAHHHH
.ili.music.ili. said:
How's the battery life? My G2 has some HORRENDOUS battery... like it can drain 20% an hour... I go to school for like 6/7 hours and I can leave with like a <20% battery life.
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I'm the wrong person to ask about battery life (at least during the week). I work in one of these new fancy energy efficient "Green" buildings. We have coating on our windows that block UV with the side effect of also blocking cellular signals. Everyone that works here puts their phones on airplane mode to save battery because we have 0 signal and the phone search all day.
I'll know better this weekend about battery life.
arknailed7754 said:
For everything you just said mostly there are workarounds.
The deidcated menu button now exists through roms...the three button thing on screen is removed. Change of dpi works fine on no sense roms I'm set on 195 on sense not as good. Play market you can stop adding apps onto screens
Bloat just remove yourself root explorer..
Battery lifes good also...
As I said workarounds exist
Also get a different launcher and ditch sense or just get Nova or apex
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How did they implement the dedicated menu button?
How do I ditch Sense?... what is Nova / apex?
Do I need root to install another launcher?
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FunkyELF said:
How did they implement the dedicated menu button?
How do I ditch Sense?... what is Nova / apex?
Do I need root to install another launcher?
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no you can install launchers without root..from market just look for them
to ditch sense though you will need root..and to change dpi you will need root..my advice root lol
by ditching sense i mean install a non sense rom like black dragon or untouchables that strip sense away so the majority is ice cream sandwich without the bloatfest. some apps will be kept in but just use root explorer to rid the rom of it.
the dedicated menu button and ridding the screen of the three dots at the bottom is also because its been taken away and remapped by devs..so again..you need root
most of all..development will kick in soon..so better to root..or if not just use a different launcher but you dont really accomplish what your setting out to do
leedroid should be here soon with a rom,and will do away with most of the bloat anyway...so youll keep sense and most things you complained about will be sorted..
the main thing here is..root..worth it..yes..without..pointless and youll be stuck with htcs crap stock rom..pretty poor for me..but coming from another phone with loads of development..probably biased of how it should be
No Folders?
Just long-tap on the icon and drag it to another icon. THe folder will creat automaticly.
FunkyELF said:
Went from a G2 to this One S yesterday. I'm not too impressed.
No dedicated menu button
Root and ROM it. People are remapping the multitask key as the menu button, and hold-home now does the multitask. You're on XDA, so I assume you're enthused enough to root and ROM it.
No trackball
Seriously. Please find me an Android device with a trackball nowadays. It's gone...you're just gonna have to deal with it.
Resolution
This display seems pretty crisp. We're working with phones with relatively small displays. There's only so many pixels you can pack into until it doesn't even matter. 720p is about as far as we need to go on phone screens. The qHD screen on this phone has vivid colors and all the qualities of Super AMOLED. The resolution seems plenty high to me. Are you starting 1inch away from the phone and observing pixels?
Bloat
Welcome to flagship carrier devices. Again, you're on XDA, and fully capable of rooting it and removing all that crap. The G2 was a 1-off device that had pretty much stock Android. Consider it a Nexus device, more or less. With a flagship phone, you're going to get bloatware.
Misc
This is my first Sense device and my first ICS device so again, not sure where this crap is coming from.... When you install an application it creates a shortcut for it on one of your home screens. Putting a shortcut is the simplist thing you can do in Android, why not leave it for the use to do if they want to do it.
Sense has nothing to do with this. The new Google Play Store now by default places new apps' icons on the homescreen. It's as easy as going to the prefs in Play Store and disabling. Blame Google if you're going to blame someone.
On my way to work I was listening to I Heart Radio and while the live streams were okay when I went to the "pandora"-like functionality it would only play one song and then stop. This never happened on my G2. Don't know whats going on here.
Don't know what to tell you, but it's obvious that you're describing some sort of software issue, not a hardware issue. If it worked fine on the live streams, then your data connection worked. Talk to iHeartRadio.
I don't care for the browser (which they stupidly call "internet").
So install a new one! ICS Browser+ is exactly like the stock browser. There's also Chrome and Opera. Cmon...
I don't care for all of the account options. I went to share a page in the browser, I wanted to email it to myself. So when I went to share page it let me select how to share it. I got "Facebook for HTC Sense", "Mail", "Twitter for HTC Sense", and "Dropbox". I did set up Facebook, but I did not set up mail, twitter, or dropbox. What I wanted was GMail which I had to select "See all..." Then I saw a plethora of garbage bloat that they bundle with the phone and had to scroll down to get to GMail. After I went though this experience I went to share another page to see if GMail showed up at the top... it didn't.
This is the one thing I disliked and will agree with you on, although once again, rooting and ROMing can take care of it. That or removing bloatware.
I'm sure I'll have more complaints the more I use it. I used my fiance's upgrade for this one but I get an upgrade in 3 months. If CM9 isn't out by then she'll be using this phone and I'll upgrade to a SGSIII or that yet to be named quad-core LG phone.
Suit yourself. 4.7 inches is just too big, and at these speeds, you're at the mercy of your data connection, not the processor.
Summary
CM9 can't come fast enough.
AMEN
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I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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i agree with you there,its all about learning curves..no sense roms are fairly close to stock..its just the settings that are different now..he_stheone has already added certain elements of stock android..so its fairly close..just the settings..that are the main difference now.
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No Folders?
Just long-tap on the icon and drag it to another icon. THe folder will creat automaticly.
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Those aren't the folders I'm talking about. I think what I'm talking about are called live folders. In AOSP builds of Android when you long press on an empty space on one of your screens you can choose widgets, folders, shortcuts, contacts, and other things I can't remember.
With Sense you only get widgets and shortcuts.... no folders, no contacts, etc... just widgets and shortcuts.
Isn't that minor thing?
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nickmv said:
I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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I didn't see this one listed in the ALL ROMS post here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1584163
Where is the info on that ROM?
Dude its in development section
Black dragon 4.0
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nickmv said:
I think nearly all of your points are moot. A lot of your review seems to be based on your lack of willingness to change some preferences and MANAGE your device. If you were on a G2, then you never had to manage stuff like this. Consider it a new experience. If you wanted stock Android, you should've gotten a Galaxy Nexus. I just upgraded from a Nexus S and while I screamed at first at all the Sense crap, I quickly had it rooted, debloated, de-Sensed, and up and running with a nice, fast ROM (Black Magic 4.0).
Give it time. The phone JUST came out.
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Going to have to side with you on this one. This phone is definitly a great device, give it some time, dig in a little bit. Much better than my Tmo-SGS2.
most of things you mentioned isnt a "bad thing" just you dont know how to operate the phone, or its just different (opinion at that point).
Also you didnt like things which are for all devices, not just one S
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Those aren't the folders I'm talking about. I think what I'm talking about are called live folders. In AOSP builds of Android when you long press on an empty space on one of your screens you can choose widgets, folders, shortcuts, contacts, and other things I can't remember.
With Sense you only get widgets and shortcuts.... no folders, no contacts, etc... just widgets and shortcuts.
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The long press, dragging and combining of icons together is AOSP folders in Ice Cream Sandwich. The long press on the desktop to add folder is long gone and is not coming back.
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Dude its in development section
Black dragon 4.0
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Sorry... you said Black Magic, not Black dragon.
I'll give it a try in a couple weeks. I like to use my phone a bit before rooting to make sure I didn't get a lemon.
Does the camera work on this one?
Just got the phone and here are my negatives:
1. With lowest brightness setting the screen is horrible (but if you increase it a bit, its ok)
2. No switches in pulldown menu ? I though Sense always had that.....
3. Bottom plastic is not 100% flush at one corner (maybe will exchange, maybe not)
4. In navigation I just couldnt find "setting" button anywhere.....whats up with that ?
gonna go to Verizon and compare to Nexus....I still need Tmo SIM and stores are in same place anyway....I am not a phone freak not wasting time here
Its also very true that until you have 2 devices in hand you cant really compare screen quality...I though my G2x IPS panel for super great, but compared to One S its very warm colored and whites have red tint. Its also hard to use in lowest brightness even in dark room....but with G2x case its because screen is simply too dark, with One S its bright but disgusting to look at due to some "noise"