I was just wondering if there's an easy way to root the inspire, without turning s off...i JUST want Clockwork Mod recovery and i ONLY want to flash a rom...i want absolutely NO DEAL AT ALL with radios, s-off, eng s-off, the advanced ace hack kit, or anything other than all that stuff, because what happened last time is that whenever i flashed a radio, i couldn't use wifi make calls or listen to music, and i wasn't even able to get into CWM to install a ROM. so, I downloaded the RUU, used it, and my phone is now in "out of the box" condition software-wise. can't i just use this superoneclick, flash CWM with rom manager, and install a ROM just like on the SGS phones? i don't want to semi-brick my phone again, assistance would be appreciated...thank you!
If it's root with S-on you want, I found a 1 click S-on tool somewhere, I'll put it in my dropbox. Just root with the ace hack kit, then use the tool to get s-on. bingo.
apokrikorian said:
I was just wondering if there's an easy way to root the inspire, without turning s off...i JUST want Clockwork Mod recovery and i ONLY want to flash a rom...i want absolutely NO DEAL AT ALL with radios, s-off, eng s-off, the advanced ace hack kit, or anything other than all that stuff, because what happened last time is that whenever i flashed a radio, i couldn't use wifi make calls or listen to music, and i wasn't even able to get into CWM to install a ROM. so, I downloaded the RUU, used it, and my phone is now in "out of the box" condition software-wise. can't i just use this superoneclick, flash CWM with rom manager, and install a ROM just like on the SGS phones? i don't want to semi-brick my phone again, assistance would be appreciated...thank you!
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Nothing that you said makes a whole lot of sense. Ace hack kit is stupidly simple and also a one click. If you encountered so many problems than you did not fully read the "effen manual". All you need to do is run hack kit and then install a Rom via cwm. It does not require a whole lot of work. If you can not obtain root with hack kit than you have no business installing custom roms.
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Gizmoe said:
Nothing that you said makes a whole lot of sense. Ace hack kit is stupidly simple and also a one click. If you encountered so many problems than you did not fully read the "effen manual". All you need to do is run hack kit and then install a Rom via cwm. It does not require a whole lot of work. If you can not obtain root with hack kit than you have no business installing custom roms.
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i did root with aahk, but the radio was still messed up, i dont know why, but it DID in fact get root... But anyways, that's besides from the point...does SuperOneClick work with the inspire?
apokrikorian said:
i did root with aahk, but the radio was still messed up, i dont know why, but it DID in fact get root... But anyways, that's besides from the point...does SuperOneClick work with the inspire?
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I do not see how your radio could have gotten messed up. All you do is run option 1 "hack ace" and when its done you have root with stock radio and stock Rom. It doesn't change your radio version. I'm not sure how much easier it could be. I can't emphasize how important it is that you fully read and study things. The link you supplied for the super one click is not even compatible with the inspire 4G which I just found out by reading the thread. Ace hack kit is the super one click for the inspire. I do not beleive you are grasping the simplicity of the tool. There is really only one step, if your doing anyhting more than one step you are doing it wrong. So, like I said in my earlier response, if you can not make ace hack kit work then you are not going to be able to root your phone and install a custom Rom. I suggest you read every single word of the manual, yes every word and try it again. It really is easy.
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Not to mention that in order for you to flash a custom rom, you HAVE to have S-off. Like gizmoe said, of you have that much trouble running one step then you have zero business flashing anything.
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Pirateghost said:
Not to mention that in order for you to flash a custom rom, you HAVE to have S-off. Like gizmoe said, of you have that much trouble running one step then you have zero business flashing anything.
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+1 on both of you. If someone can't follow SIMPLE instructions and read everything then they have no business rooting. Either stay stock or buy an iPhone.
I got your 10 char right here
cwhitney24 said:
+1 on both of you. If someone can't follow SIMPLE instructions and read everything then they have no business rooting. Either stay stock or buy an iPhail.
I got your 10 char right here
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Fixed
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Pirateghost said:
Not to mention that in order for you to flash a custom rom, you HAVE to have S-off. Like gizmoe said, of you have that much trouble running one step then you have zero business flashing anything.
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Not so. All you need is a custom recovery to flash ROMs. You need S-OFF to flash recovery though.
Gene Poole said:
Not so. All you need is a custom recovery to flash ROMs. You need S-OFF to flash recovery though.
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LOL.... sooo.... my comment still stands. in order for you to get custom recovery so you can flash roms, you need S-OFF....
Pirateghost said:
LOL.... sooo.... my comment still stands. in order for you to get custom recovery so you can flash roms, you need S-OFF....
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I'm just clarifying. I had an Aria for awhile before getting my Inspire. Unrevoked was the only rooting option we had until revolutionary.io. Unrevoked was only able to temporarily glitch the hboot into letting it install CWM recovery. That was all we got; no S-OFF.
You could, in theory, gain S-OFF with gfree, flash a recovery, then go back to S-ON with gfree all during the rooting process. In fact, I think this might not be a bad idea as most Inspire users will never really need an S-OFF rooted phone and it gets some into trouble.
Related
I am new to this rooting stuff and been spent most of yesterday learning and asking questions. Here is what I did and some questions I got from it.
1. I rooted using the guide from ace hack it, took me a few tries but got it working.
2. Noticed I went from GB 2.3 to 2.2 after it. So is there a way to get to 2.3. This will lead to another question a few.
3. I loaded my first Rom off the SD and it was Leedriod. That gave GB 2.3 but was having difficulty with gps. But I was happy to know the rooting and Rom laps worked for me.
4. So I tried the offical ATT RUU through usb and HTC sense. It worked but also put me back to stock. Is this a way of putting your phone back to stock? I do have ace hack it on the phone because when I reboot I can get into it but if I select recovery from the menu it seems to lockup my phone.
5. Is the term Rom and RUU interchangeable? I see people using both or am I reading it wrong?
Thanks for any help. I have been reading pages of this stuff and its making my head spin. I just wanted to ask some questions to help understand this better, since I'm new to it.
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Oh I forgot one.
A lot of instruction say to 'clear cache'. How do you do that? Is that the wipe cache option I see from the ace hack it menu?
Thanks
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Ruu=Radio Update Utility
Rom=the OS you see/use on the phone.
When you ran the Ruu, you unrooted your phone. You'll have to rerun the Hack Kit to regain root but not S-off and to be able to flash a different (preferably custom) rom.
Do you have a preference for Sense or AOSP?
I figured that I had to rerun which is ok with me.
I don't really use sense because there aren't many options to it. So I would try asop but o don't know what is
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Tx Redneck said:
Ruu=Radio Update Utility
Rom=the OS you see/use on the phone.
When you ran the Ruu, you unrooted your phone. You'll have to rerun the Hack Kit to regain root but not S-off and to be able to flash a different (preferably custom) rom.
Do you have a preference for Sense or AOSP?
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If you're S-OFF, all you have to do is flash ClockWorkMod recovery to regain root; no need to redo the whole hack kit.
Duffmantp said:
I figured that I had to rerun which is ok with me.
I don't really use sense because there aren't many options to it. So I would try asop but o don't know what is
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If you ran the RUU, it will return you to a stock ROM, but you are still S-OFF which is the biggest hurdle in rooting your phone. If you want to root after running the RUU, just flash ClockWorkMod recovery via HBOOT and then install a rooted ROM.
That's dang good info. From what I knew, you had to rerun part of the hack kit to reboot. How does flashing CWM root the stock rom?
Gene Poole said:
If you ran the RUU, it will return you to a stock ROM, but you are still S-OFF which is the biggest hurdle in rooting your phone. If you want to root after running the RUU, just flash ClockWorkMod recovery via HBOOT and then install a rooted ROM.
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Hey Tx, RUU actually stands for ROM Update Utility. Just didn't want to get others reading that confused.
Agoattamer said:
Hey Tx, RUU actually stands for ROM Update Utility. Just didn't want to get others reading that confused.
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It appears we're both half right.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=WallabyFAQ#What_does_RUU_stand_for.3F
What does RUU stand for?
It stands for Radio Unit Upgrade. But please forget this name: it is confusing, because it upgrade the Radio Rom & the OS ROM, or only one of them.
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Tx Redneck said:
That's dang good info. From what I knew, you had to rerun part of the hack kit to reboot. How does flashing CWM root the stock rom?
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It doesn't, but once CWM is installed, you can install any of the multitude of rooted ROMs available.
Gene Poole said:
It doesn't, but once CWM is installed, you can install any of the multitude of rooted ROMs available.
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Ahhh, that's snicky.[insert Desi Arnaz voice to say snicky]
Tx Redneck said:
It appears we're both half right.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=WallabyFAQ#What_does_RUU_stand_for.3F
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Easy enough to get the real answer. When I first saw you call it Radio Update Utility it didn't sound right. So I googled it. I saw about 4 names that people gave it including Radio Unit Upgrade but then I thought where did I see it before. Oh yes, right from the upgrade utility.
So I tried recovery again. And my phone keeps getting locked up. The device appears with a red triangle with a red exclamation mark. So i tried the downgrade from the hack it kit. It worked but i still get the same thing. So i tried reverse gold card and i got a error. The same that i got before i reformatted the SD to get the root to work.
So later today, I will reformat and run the hack kit again. I am probably going to try Coredroid ROM.
Hi folks,
I have read a number of guides and threads on the forum but I can't work out if any apply to what I want to do. I'm sure the info may be there but its not clear to me.
Basically I want root on my Desire S so that I can use aps like LUKS Manager, Orbot and so on. I don't want to install a new ROM as I'm happy with my what I have at the moment.
My hboot is 2.00.0002 and my Radio is 3822.10.08.04_M
Is what I want to do possible? If not and I have to install a new ROM is it possible to find one that matches what I have at the moment? How do I identitfy what that is?
Thanks in advance for all the help!
wageslave said:
Hi folks,
I have read a number of guides and threads on the forum but I can't work out if any apply to what I want to do. I'm sure the info may be there but its not clear to me.
Basically I want root on my Desire S so that I can use aps like LUKS Manager, Orbot and so on. I don't want to install a new ROM as I'm happy with my what I have at the moment.
My hboot is 2.00.0002 and my Radio is 3822.10.08.04_M
Is what I want to do possible? If not and I have to install a new ROM is it possible to find one that matches what I have at the moment? How do I identitfy what that is?
Thanks in advance for all the help!
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everything is possible. Just follow the guides in this forum how to root your device (I recommend not to use htcdev). You don't have to install a new ROM.
But my personal opinion is to use a custom ROM, since they often have much more possibilities for customizing and a lot modifications for speed and performance. Are you still using stock ROM with sense 3.0 ?
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I've only accepted the updates provded by my network so I guess thats the stock ROM?
Yep, its HTC Sense 3
I must be missing something basic because from all the guides i've read you have to install a new ROm to keep root?
wageslave said:
Hi, thanks for the reply. I've only accepted the updates provded by my network so I guess thats the stock ROM?
Yep, its HTC Sense 3
I must be missing something basic because from all the guides i've read you have to install a new ROm to keep root?
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Yes, it's stock right now.
At first you need to s-off your device (caution, you are about to void your warranty). You can do that using the revolutionary tool. Then you have to root, which can be done with superoneclick.
(edit: at this point you need to install a recovery like 4ext or cwm)
Root will not be undone when installing a
New ROM, neither do you need to install a new ROM. But I recommend to use a ROM with sense 3.5, it's much better.
You can find tutorials for everything I'm talking about right here in the forums.
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Ah, thats great, thanks. I didn't get that superoneclick could allow you to keep root.
Much appreciated.
I'll also look into the Sense 3.5. thanks again!
I forgot to mention: after rooting,
You need to install a custom recovery like 4ext or cwm. It's for backing up your system and flashing roms and updates and anything else you need
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Ok, so if I get s-off and then keep root by using superoneclick does that mean that I won't be able to receive updates through my network?
wageslave said:
Ok, so if I get s-off and then keep root by using superoneclick does that mean that I won't be able to receive updates through my network?
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If your s-off and rooted the installer will not install the update (never tried cause I dont use stock rom) - but there are alway newest rooted stock roms here on xda and you can update your system manually. Most of the time before your carrier sends you the "official" update.
But yes, you have to do it by yourself.
Steinhund said:
If your s-off and rooted the installer will not install the update (never tried cause I dont use stock rom) - but there are alway newest rooted stock roms here on xda and you can update your system manually. Most of the time before your carrier sends you the "official" update.
But yes, you have to do it by yourself.
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+1
But I think if you s-off and root and DO NOT install any other ROM you might still be able to download official updates for your stock ROM over the air
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Yes, you can use OTA (Over The Air update) ... but I think after that, you will loose your root
look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186401 FAQ's No. 5
ok, went to have a go at this but it looks like getting S-Off is quite complicated as well. I'm on HBOOT 2.00.0002.
Is there a shorter route to achieving root than:
downgrade
s-off
superoneclick (for root)
install custom recovery
If there isn't now is it likely to become available in the future or is the Desire S just difficult to do this with?
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
wageslave said:
Is there a shorter route to achieving root than:
downgrade
s-off
superoneclick (for root)
install custom recovery
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use the htcdev, but as mentioned its not recommended
its not that hard to do the stuff...
bronx said:
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
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+1
this will give you exaclty what you require
AND if you have S-OFF and apply an OTA you will stuck in a bootloop (white HTC splash screen)
bronx said:
If You don't want to change rom, then stay s-on, unlock bootloader with htcdev and use superoneclick.
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That's great, and exactly what i was looking for, thanks!
eyahl said:
use the htcdev, but as mentioned its not recommended
its not that hard to do the stuff...
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I get that the steps might be easy enough, but there are quite a lot of them and instructions can contain loops when put together (I.e. downgrading to get root may require root in some instructionals). I do appreciate your help and advice though. I may well switch ROMs, especially in the future (I can't see myself affording a new phone any time soon!)
amidabuddha said:
+1
this will give you exaclty what you require
AND if you have S-OFF and apply an OTA you will stuck in a bootloop (white HTC splash screen)
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Thanks for the tip!
ok i am late but i think i can help.
first of all stop confusing the damn guy with different kinds of stuff. even i was like him before rooting my precious desire s. he will learn the advantages and disadvantages of revolutionary s-off as time passes by.
for now follow this guide as i did this (and trust me i had the same intentions as you do)
first get your adb and fastboot setup, this is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272595
then go to htcdev and unlock your phone. follow the process, its easier than you think.
after your done, download superoneclick and root your phone. if you dont know much about superoneclick then search around or google it and you will find your anwsers. one more thing, htcdev will reset your phone.
sorry if i am late if you have already rooteed your phone.
@up wth are U talkin' bout dude?
Case was closed two days ago, op was informed, understood, even thanked everyone. What are You trying to show in here?
darkrider24 said:
first of all stop confusing the damn guy with different kinds of stuff. even i was like him before rooting my precious desire s. he will learn the advantages and disadvantages of revolutionary s-off as time passes by.
for now follow this guide as i did this (and trust me i had the same intentions as you do)
first get your adb and fastboot setup, this is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272595
then go to htcdev and unlock your phone. follow the process, its easier than you think.
after your done, download superoneclick and root your phone. if you dont know much about superoneclick then search around or google it and you will find your anwsers. one more thing, htcdev will reset your phone.
sorry if i am late if you have already rooteed your phone.
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Who do you think you are? Batman?
You've basically danced around the same bush that bronx, eyahl and amidabuddha planted already and announced salvation to the world!
Ohhh.... am I too late to save the day?...is it too late for the poor non-rooted buggers?!! What'll the world do without me? The ship you're trying to board sailed away two days ago... party's over man... but it's fascinating to see the way you look at yourself! Knight in shining armor indeed!!
This is your first post on the forum, and this is how you behave, and talk to other members...? You reap what you sow man...
P.S. : Even the OP has more posts than you!!
Lmao
I guess I'm not the only one who is killing time watching these boards 50 times a day.
bronx said:
Lmao
I guess I'm not the only one who is killing time watching these boards 50 times a day.
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Nope, you're not the only one
Enigmaamit at his best
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Like title says. I just need method to root phone.
Already have s-off. Any tools besides hack kit?
If you have S-OFF then your phone is already rooted, assuming AAHK did it's job right (sometimes you'll end up with a soft brick or a bunch of problems but bootloader will still proudly read S-OFF).
You can get ENG S-OFF if you're interested in cooking ROMs, but otherwise you should be good to go.
DJ_MiX said:
Like title says. I just need method to root phone.
Already have s-off. Any tools besides hack kit?
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If you are S-OFF and have CWM installed, just flash SU in recovery: http://cmw.22aaf3.com/common/su-2.3.6.2-efgh.zip
If not, you will have to flash a custom recovery first....if you need further help just let me know. One piece of advice only: DON'T FLASH ENG S-OFF IF YOU PHONE WAS SHIPPED WITH GB...YOU WILL MESS THE BOOTLOADER.
If you want ENG S-OFF use the one in the Hack Kit (you can flash that through options)....:good:
S-OFF was done by xtc clip.
On my next Inspire I will try flashing recovery and then the flash root file.
I already took the plunge and used the hack kit to install recovery and root.
Good to see another option besides the hack kit, dont like the BS I have to go through for pass key.
DJ_MiX said:
S-OFF was done by xtc clip.
On my next Inspire I will try flashing recovery and then the flash root file.
I already took the plunge and used the hack kit to install recovery and root.
Good to see another option besides the hack kit, dont like the BS I have to go through for pass key.
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ummm...just 2/3 pages of effen manual is not that bad. The Hack Kit is the best tool in town...and knowing how it works makes things easier the next time.....:good:
DJ_MiX said:
S-OFF was done by xtc clip.
On my next Inspire I will try flashing recovery and then the flash root file.
I already took the plunge and used the hack kit to install recovery and root.
Good to see another option besides the hack kit, dont like the BS I have to go through for pass key.
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BS for a passkey? If it weren't for the passkey, there would be even more people who don't read the effen manual or research before trying to root than there already are. Its not even difficult, just a little well-invested time. Besides, is it not important to understand the steps the software runs?
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poopsmith777 said:
BS for a passkey? If it weren't for the passkey, there would be even more people who don't read the effen manual or research before trying to root than there already are. Its not even difficult, just a little well-invested time. Besides, is it not important to understand the steps the software runs?
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I have to disagree, the passkey doesn't work some of the time. I've rooted a few Inspires, and even with the same method, sometimes the passkey just won't generate.
That's interesting, I've never seen that issue and I've rooted several with the process
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DJ_MiX said:
S-OFF was done by xtc clip.
On my next Inspire I will try flashing recovery and then the flash root file.
I already took the plunge and used the hack kit to install recovery and root.
Good to see another option besides the hack kit, dont like the BS I have to go through for pass key.
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Idk how the passkey is BS when if you READ the manual its right there.......
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Hello everyday android fans just got this great phone from my uncle and would love to flash a rom on it (not a fan of sense ui) , Rooting. the best thing about android, we all want to root it, flash a rom or other goodies. But the one thing we android fans hate? Bricking. Im tired of bricking my phones because of someone elses stupid mistake, weather its a broken link when your half way into the process, wrong file or broken file, im tired of it, i have bricked so many great phones, so i have googled and searched this thread and i dont know where to start i cant find any root tuts, i know that htc dosent like it when people root their phones (dont know if this is true correct me if im wrong) because of the unlock thing and S-On. Now can someone please direct me to a root thread and maby even a rom, i would like a non sense rom but ics 4.0.4 or jb 4.1.1 sorry for how dumb i am.
Trozzul said:
Hello everyday android fans just got this great phone from my uncle and would love to flash a rom on it (not a fan of sense ui) , Rooting. the best thing about android, we all want to root it, flash a rom or other goodies. But the one thing we android fans hate? Bricking. Im tired of bricking my phones because of someone elses stupid mistake, weather its a broken link when your half way into the process, wrong file or broken file, im tired of it, i have bricked so many great phones, so i have googled and searched this thread and i dont know where to start i cant find any root tuts, i know that htc dosent like it when people root their phones (dont know if this is true correct me if im wrong) because of the unlock thing and S-On. Now can someone please direct me to a root thread and maby even a rom, i would like a non sense rom but ics 4.0.4 or jb 4.1.1 sorry for how dumb i am.
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This is what you need....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379
glevitan said:
This is what you need....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379
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this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
Trozzul said:
this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
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you are wrong. Inspire and desire HD are the same phone except for the radio frequencies. If you have read the guide in post 7 you would have found that.
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Trozzul said:
this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
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They're the same phone. I recommend you read the guide. Root, S-Off and Unlock are all explained in great detail in the guide.
There have to be other small differences too, no? Screens or something, right?
First thing OP needs to do is check the build version. That will determine if you can run the aahk straight or if you need to unlock with htcdev first, flash insecure boot, downgrade, then root...
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There have to be other small differences too, no? Screens or something, right?
First thing OP needs to do is check the build version. That will determine if you can run the aahk straight or if you need to unlock with htcdev first, flash insecure boot, downgrade, then root...
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The Hack Kit can always be used, he has to find what kinda preparation needs to be done for it to work.
Desire HD and Inspire and similar, DHD is the European version, and therefore the different frequencies, the rest are just the same. Even radios can be shared.
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glevitan said:
The Hack Kit can always be used, he has to find what kinda preparation needs to be done for it to work.
Desire HD and Inspire and similar, DHD is the European version, and therefore the different frequencies, the rest are just the same. Even radios can be shared.
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I still dont see what im looking for post 7 dosent show any links or what to do but it looks like you guys want me to unlock the bootloader first. But I have read in some threads and posts that they dont want you using the offical bootloader unlock if your going to use the hack kit aahk or whatever they are
Trozzul said:
I still dont see what im looking for post 7 dosent show any links or what to do but it looks like you guys want me to unlock the bootloader first. But I have read in some threads and posts that they dont want you using the offical bootloader unlock if your going to use the hack kit aahk or whatever they are
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Post 7 has a PDF guide. That includes any instructions you want. And no, you can't run AAHK on an unlocked bootloader.
how do i know if my device was shipped with gingerbread? i got this thing from my uncle and im sure he wouldnt know when he got it.
Trozzul said:
how do i know if my device was shipped with gingerbread? i got this thing from my uncle and im sure he wouldnt know when he got it.
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AAHK was retired a few days ago. The only option now is bootloader unlock, unless someone else comes up with a similar tool.
What do you mean AAHK is retired? is it not supported anymore? am i not able to root and flash a custom rom on my phone now?
Trozzul said:
What do you mean AAHK is retired? is it not supported anymore? am i not able to root and flash a custom rom on my phone now?
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It's neither available nor supported; the server hosting all the files it needs is no longer up. Like I said, the only option to root now is boot loader unlock.
bananagranola said:
It's neither available nor supported; the server hosting all the files it needs is no longer up. Like I said, the only option to root now is boot loader unlock.
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sorry im pretty dumb... so if i root and unlock the boot loader can i flash roms with Cwm? or do i have to be S-off? its S-on right now, not really sure what S-off /S-on is from what i have read its so you cant unistall stock apps?
Trozzul said:
sorry im pretty dumb... so if i root and unlock the boot loader can i flash roms with Cwm? or do i have to be S-off? its S-on right now, not really sure what S-off /S-on is from what i have read its so you cant unistall stock apps?
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Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
glevitan said:
Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
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I obtained AAHK literally the day before he retired it. I read everything thoroughly and it went off great with no problems. I think I might have been one of the last people to get S-OFF on this phone before he retired it. The only thing I can tell you is you might be able to google for ace advanced hack kit. I know you can find the blog this way, and you may be able to find the kit somewhere else to download. If you do happen to find the download somewhere, read EVERYTHING on the blog. If you read for comprehension and follow directions carefully, you can root and s-off without bricking. I did it first try no problems. Now I'm running Energy ROM for Sense 3.5 and love it.
glevitan said:
Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
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so if i want to get custom roms like a ICS or JB Rom i would have to root/cwm and unlock the bootloader? and if i had to unlock the bootloader would i use htcdev? i have seen so many tuts its not even funny some people say to use it some say its bad and dont use it im very confused
hutch2509 said:
I obtained AAHK literally the day before he retired it. I read everything thoroughly and it went off great with no problems. I think I might have been one of the last people to get S-OFF on this phone before he retired it. The only thing I can tell you is you might be able to google for ace advanced hack kit. I know you can find the blog this way, and you may be able to find the kit somewhere else to download. If you do happen to find the download somewhere, read EVERYTHING on the blog. If you read for comprehension and follow directions carefully, you can root and s-off without bricking. I did it first try no problems. Now I'm running Energy ROM for Sense 3.5 and love it.
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I do not recommend trying to download AAHK and run it. You will probably get stuck in the middle. AAHK downloaded files from its servers during the process. That server is now down.
Trozzul said:
so if i want to get custom roms like a ICS or JB Rom i would have to root/cwm and unlock the bootloader? and if i had to unlock the bootloader would i use htcdev? i have seen so many tuts its not even funny some people say to use it some say its bad and dont use it im very confused
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Now, you need to unlock the bootloader with HTCDEV, flash a recovery like CWM, and either: flash a rooted ROM, or a su binary and a superuser app.
In the past when AAHK was around it was a much better option (gave S-Off) than bootloader unlock, which is probably why you see people saying not to use bootloader unlock. Now that AAHK is gone, unless/until glevitan makes his S-Off tool, bootloader unlock is the only option.
bananagranola said:
I do not recommend trying to download AAHK and run it. You will probably get stuck in the middle. AAHK downloaded files from its servers during the process. That server is now down.
Now, you need to unlock the bootloader with HTCDEV, flash a recovery like CWM, and either: flash a rooted ROM, or a su binary and a superuser app.
In the past when AAHK was around it was a much better option (gave S-Off) than bootloader unlock, which is probably why you see people saying not to use bootloader unlock. Now that AAHK is gone, unless/until glevitan makes his S-Off tool, bootloader unlock is the only option.
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you said a Rooted ROM? how would that work i dont know how to flash CWM yet since AAHK is gone .do i flash CWM on the stock recovery? if so how would i? download a CWM Version and rename it to Update.zip?
Trozzul said:
you said a Rooted ROM? how would that work i dont know how to flash CWM yet since AAHK is gone .do i flash CWM on the stock recovery? if so how would i? download a CWM Version and rename it to Update.zip?
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In post #7 of the thread linked in my signature, glevitan has a beginner's guide that includes instructions on bootloader unlock and root. There are also many threads strewn around the HTC Desire HD forums detailing how to do it step by step. (Note: DHD is essentially the same phone as the Inspire 4G; you can use their ROMs and their instructions, though I would be careful about their radios.)
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169515 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168500
Hello, I'm a bit new here so pardon me if this is in the wrong place.
About three weeks ago I've acquired a Glacier to replace an old Sidekick 4G. I've been trying to install custom ROMs for a while now, but they've all ended in failure. I've gone through several upon several post from various sites, most of them here in XDA. Ive done everything I've seen to get this phone a custom ROM. I've made a goldcard to downgrade which failed, I've installed CWM version 5.something, I've got permaroot on my device and I've unlocked the bootloader through HTCdevs' site. I cannot get a custom ROM to install without the package being signed, and even if I install a signed ROM, my device bricks and refuses to load past initial bootscreen. I've even left my device on entire night after flashing a signed ROM to see if it would load past the bootscreen, but it won't. I'm also still a bit new to the custom tom community as a whole, as the o ly device I've had experience customizing and flashing was the SK4G.
Can anyone here please help me? I've gone through almost every single thread on XDA regarding this phone and achieving S=Off, but nothing has worked. I honestly don't even know how I managed permaroot on here since it seems to.be difficult to do from what I've read.
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I think if you unlocked your bootloader (s-off) with HTC dev you have to flash the boot.img separately. The boot.img
Is the kernel. Don't worry bro I'm a noob too can I still remember how frustrated I was while rooting. Expecially cause I have the bad emmc and I have the Canadian version of the mytouch which you have to root a different way
What rom do you want? If you open the open there will be the boot.img and extract it and flash it separately
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HI There,
I too had a few hiccups when trying to load custom Roms. I also tried to use the Unlocker through HTC, and it didn't work. It says it unlocks the BOOTLOADER, but I still had S-ON. The only way I could permanently root the Glacier with S-OFF was to downgrade to 2.2 then root.
When you go into Bootloader, does it show you have S-OFF?
N_otori0us_ said:
I think if you unlocked your bootloader (s-off) with HTC dev you have to flash the boot.img separately. The boot.img
Is the kernel. Don't worry bro I'm a noob too can I still remember how frustrated I was while rooting. Expecially cause I have the bad emmc and I have the Canadian version of the mytouch which you have to root a different way
What rom do you want? If you open the open there will be the boot.img and extract it and flash it separately
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I was looking at this rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383629 , it was the first I've tried. My bootloader is still S=On, but the bootloader itself is unlocked. I dunno if that makes any sense, I'm just reading what I see on my bootloader screen.
Anyway, after flashing the boot.img for the rom I wanted, my phone fully booted up and is now working. Thank you very much for you help.
thevindicated said:
HI There,
I too had a few hiccups when trying to load custom Roms. I also tried to use the Unlocker through HTC, and it didn't work. It says it unlocks the BOOTLOADER, but I still had S-ON. The only way I could permanently root the Glacier with S-OFF was to downgrade to 2.2 then root.
When you go into Bootloader, does it show you have S-OFF?
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No, and the threads I've read about downgrading to 2.2 through a goldcard hasn't worked. Would getting a stock 2.2 rom for it and flashing that work?
TacoSeeker said:
No, and the threads I've read about downgrading to 2.2 through a goldcard hasn't worked. Would getting a stock 2.2 rom for it and flashing that work?
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I don't believe so. You would still need S-OFF to flash that custom ROM anyhow.
This was the only video I found that was helpful. A lot of people complain about visionary bricking devices so I guess that's the inherent risk here, but I am still going strong. You must be on 2.2 to use the /gfree method as described in the video. Also, you will have to scour the web for the visionary APK and gfree files. I can't remember where I got them.
Downgrade using the first link, then root using the second. Do a factory reset and follow the steps to downgrade on unlockr EXACTLY and you will be fine. I know it's two different guides, but I had to piece these steps together pulling bits from each to get it to work. Be careful though, as always you take responsibility if you damage your phone using any method to root.
If you run into a misc_version permission denied error during this step, it's because you pushed the whole MISC folder and need to use:
/data/local/tmp/misc_version/misc_version -s 1.00.000.0
http://theunlockr.com/2011/10/25/ho...ire-z-desire-hd-and-mytouch-4g-back-to-froyo/
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/32293-mytouch-4g-rooting-234-ota-roam/
After that, read the GUIDE TO PERMANENT ROOT S-OFF here on XDA and piece together what you are missing.
That's the best I can do without being there with you. I am sorry.
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thevindicated said:
I don't believe so. You would still need S-OFF to flash that custom ROM anyhow.
This was the only video I found that was helpful. A lot of people complain about visionary bricking devices so I guess that's the inherent risk here, but I am still going strong. You must be on 2.2 to use the /gfree method as described in the video. Also, you will have to scour the web for the visionary APK and gfree files. I can't remember where I got them.
Downgrade using the first link, then root using the second. Do a factory reset and follow the steps to downgrade on unlockr EXACTLY and you will be fine. I know it's two different guides, but I had to piece these steps together pulling bits from each to get it to work. Be careful though, as always you take responsibility if you damage your phone using any method to root.
If you run into a misc_version permission denied error during this step, it's because you pushed the whole MISC folder and need to use:
/data/local/tmp/misc_version/misc_version -s 1.00.000.0
After that, read the GUIDE TO PERMANENT ROOT S-OFF here on XDA and piece together what you are missing.
That's the best I can do without being there with you. I am sorry.
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My bootloader still says S=On, but I just got finished flashing CM7 onto my device. So I think I'm pretty much done with this thread. Thank you for all of your help.
My only other concern would be if it's possible for me to restore the /data portion of my stock rom NANDroid backup to get all of my app data back. Would that work, or would the device brick because they're two diffrent OS's?
Thats HTC Dev for you. You gotta flash the kernel after the ROM. If you have S-ON, but flashed a rom and got it to work, then you basically have S-Off, otherwise you couldn't have flashed a rom. Good luck in flashing other roms in the future bro.
TacoSeeker said:
My bootloader still says S=On, but I just got finished flashing CM7 onto my device. So I think I'm pretty much done with this thread. Thank you for all of your help.
My only other concern would be if it's possible for me to restore the /data portion of my stock rom NANDroid backup to get all of my app data back. Would that work, or would the device brick because they're two diffrent OS's?
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Use titanium backup to extract the app data from the backup you made. Don't restore the data partition.
By the way, S-Off is far superior to HTC Dev unlock. You'll figure that out sooner or later.
Originally Posted by TacoSeeker
My bootloader still says S=On, but I just got finished flashing CM7 onto my device. So I think I'm pretty much done with this thread. Thank you for all of your help.
My only other concern would be if it's possible for me to restore the /data portion of my stock rom NANDroid backup to get all of my app data back. Would that work, or would the device brick because they're two diffrent OS's?
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Use titanium backup to extract the app data from the backup you made. Don't restore the data partition.
By the way, S-Off is far superior to HTC Dev unlock. You'll figure that out sooner or later.
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Yeah, I realize know that S=off is better. Like I said, I'm new to the whole ROM community thing so I thought an HTCDev unlock WAS S=off.
Anyway, thank you all for your help. Much appreciated.
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