I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?
BAttitude7689 said:
I have the 0.7 rom load with both patchs and the blue theme, I want to try out apps 2 SD i just didnt know the best route in doing so, for it to work correctly with your rom. If i use the format function in the recovery menue would it automatically save my apps on the SD and work properly or would i have to reinstall them?
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(I personally don't like apps2sd but if you really have that many apps...)
Yea. Backup your sd card (it will get wiped). Boot in to recovery and create swap+ext2+fat32 and then convert ext2 to ext3 (all are options in the recovery menu). It will move everything for you.
Why don't you like apps 2 sd? I just figure if you have that you won't have worry about internal memory if you wanted to have a lot o
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This is why he doesn't like it:
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**My note about Apps2SD: I added support for it in this release of the rom because people who were using it in other roms that tried to install this rom were receiving errors. Here's my point of view on it.
I played with it for over 8 hours today between implementing it and then testing it to make sure this fix would work. I have personally come to not like apps2sd, but I am including it for those who use it.
The reason I don't like it is because it puts your phone at a huge risk of having problems once anything goes wrong. If you install a program that causes issues, a nandroid backup will not resolve the issue because the application is installed on your SD card not your phone. If your phone starts going crazy as reported here and here, then even just a restore possibly won't fix it. You might need to go as far as to wipe your SD card too. If you are lucky enough to have a restore fix your problems you will still need to reinstall every app, even if you didn't wipe your card. And on top of that when you try to reinstall any app it will think it's still installed, even though you restored your phone. But when you click "uninstall" it will just freeze half the time because there's nothing on the phone for it to actually install. I have also read many threads that say if you happen to boot the phone up without the SD card in then it will screw everything up.
So now maybe you are wondering why I would add Apps2SD support in this rom. In order for people who are currently using Apps2SD to upgrade to this rom I must support it or require them to do a hard reset before coming to fresh. Clearly I don't want you to have to reset so I have supported it. With that said: I personally recommend not using it. This rom will auto-use it if your SD card is formatted for it (fat32+ext2+swap partitions) but it won't use it if you are only partitioned as 1 fat32. My suggestion is to stick to the 1 partition and let your applications install on the phone. Linux is not like Windows in the sense that it will run the same whether you phone has 140 megs free of storage space or 10 megs free. So unless you plan on installing 100 apps, I don't see the practical purposes of using Apps2SD. But a lot of people like it.
Now with all of THAT said -- this rom officially has and supports Apps2SD. It is a program that I think has the possibility of being great, but has to work within the confines of the phone which means tricking Android in to thinking that the applications are installed on the phone when they aren't. That is what leads to all the problems mentioned above.
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If i have apps2sd already from the previous rom i don't have to re-do it for the new one correct?
no you dont.
using apps2sd2 problems
I followed all the instructions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5618439#post5618439 for apps2sd2 yet when I open the app, it STILL says Oops, you have to run through the tutorial to set it up. I've DONE THIS. I'm extermely frustrated. I have no idea what more to do. My sd card is partitioned correctly. I've run all the commands listed in that tutorial. PLS HELP! Also all my apps are showing in /system/sd/app AND data/app. Is this correct? Why won't Apps2sd2 work for me? I really need some troubleshooting help.
I have a rooted CMDA HTC Hero using the Fresh ROM. Also is there a way to still get Sprint TV using this ROM?
Fresh .7 doesn't support A2SD, only Fresh 1.0 & 1.1.
Hi
Hi am really crazy im about to explode because i cant install Plants vs Zombies on my device....
Hi use Link2sd and my 2nd partition is 500+ mb free
And my internal memory has 120mb.
The apk its 73mb and i found another 1 for 50 mb.
And when i try too install it says " i have no space try to remove some apps to get more space blablablablabla manage applications cancel"
I deleted my cache......
All my apps are link2ed to link2sd
i Tried factory reset and then tryed to install nothing...
Link2sd only links apps to sd after installing on the internal memory but i cant install on the internal memory....
WHAT DO I DO?
I think you can use 'root explorer' to check out the free space on
/data/app
Maybe you have some problems with app2sd
Im, about, to trow, my cell from, the window, i, never wanted anything so a bad
first of all, dont post another thread on the same topic (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186863)
and yeah, like what aswasw said, its probably a problem with link2sd. try undoing it and see how that goes. if you still want something like link2sd, try data2sd or apps2sd (im not quite familiar with link2sd). and if you can install cm7 for your phone, do it. it allows you to force any app to move to sd and also gives you the option to automatically install your apps to sd
A few days ago I got a "new" windows mobile phone in, and I decided that I would cook a rom for it myself to get all the functionality I wanted, but after testing a few of my own and other roms I've got some questions about the different memories of my phone.
- It's a Sony Ericsson Xperia x1i, but I think my questions would also apply to other windows mobile phones.
- I'm cooking and running other peoples windows mobile 6.5.3 roms
- The phone has 512MB of flash and 256MB of RAM built in.
- I'm using Twinge Kitchen 1.10 for cooking the rom and importing cab's of the apps I want to use
I've tried roms of vastly different sizes, but the storage memory always remains the same. My question is, how is the flash memory on a windows mobile device used? I'm assuming the bootloader, radio and some other things might have their own partition, and then a partition for the rom, and one partition is for storage memory. Am I correct?
If I flash my phone to a small rom will the space I save on that be wasted? Is there a way to make the free space available as storage memory?
I've tried putting all the apps I wanted to install into the rom, and that worked fine, but on first boot they installed themselves into the storage memory, so I would have been just as well off by installing them after flashing the rom. Is there a way to add apps to a rom, and have them integrated in it in such a way that they don't require further installing after flashing, just running the apps from the rom like all the regular stuff is. (this is probably done by people who know how to cook roms, but I can't find an explanation on how to do it anywhere)
I would rather cook a minimalistic rom and use the freed up space as storage memory, and then install my apps manually, that way I could uninstall them whenever I wanted. Or would having those apps intergrated into the rom save me more space because they would be compressed?
Either way I would like to know if there was a way to increase the storage space, and make the rom space smaller. I guess I would need a partition manager for windows mobile/CE that can resize without data loss, and resize the rom and storage partition with the phone running, or perhaps on the PC, with the phone connected with the USB cable and running in bootloader mode.
I have another question about RAM, my phone has 256MB RAM, but it shows as about 200MB program memory of which about 50 in use with no apps running. What is the remaining 56MB used for? Is there a way to change this amount?
I have used Windows Mobile for quite a while now, but this is the first time I've tried cooking a rom, or even thought about partitioning the built-in flash, so to the more experience people the awnsers to my questions might be obvious, but to me they are not.
I have thought of one possible way to re-partition the built-in flash, but I don't know if this can be done this way without messing anything up.
I could run Android from the sdcard, and resize the partitions on the phone-flash while in Android, but is there even an app that will let you resize those partitions in Android? Would this work without data loss, or if not would the bootloader be ok so I could flash the rom again in the newly resized partition?
I've had three WinMo 6.x devices (1 GPS and 2 phones) and both were able to have things stored on its flash memory. In fact, isn't that where the "My Documents" folder is?
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I've had three WinMo 6.x devices (1 GPS and 2 phones) and both were able to have things stored on its flash memory. In fact, isn't that where the "My Documents" folder is?
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Yes, but I think you are mis-understanding my questions, I don't want to just store things in it's flash memory, that's no problem. I want to resize the partitions on the flash memory, using less flash for the rom, and more available as storage space.
I have been researching further, but I keep coming up empty. I can't find any android or windows mobile app that'll even let me see the different NAND flash partitions, let alone manipulate them.
I could try and get a linux partition manager to work on android, but the more I think of it, the riskier it seems.
I've also been looking into using MTTY, but I can't find any information on what the commands are, except for tasks 28,29 and 32, and none of those will help me. I don't know if MTTY even has the capabilities to manipulate the partitioning.
Just rooted my new 3110, successfully .......(or so I thought) . Now I cannot install anything on internal SD. Whenever I try, I get "not enough space" error message - even the 2 apps(only had the tab 3 days)! that were on the sd before I rooted, have mysteriously moved to phone memory. I cant even install FolderMount , which I had already d/l. Forgive a newbie, but having rooted my Galaxy W phone 18 months ago with very few problems, was hoping tab would be as reliable. Anyone help? (as I dont want to unroot just to be able to use internal sd memory.) Thanks in anticipation.
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Just rooted my new 3110, successfully .......(or so I thought) . Now I cannot install anything on internal SD. Whenever I try, I get "not enough space" error message - even the 2 apps(only had the tab 3 days)! that were on the sd before I rooted, have mysteriously moved to phone memory. I cant even install FolderMount , which I had already d/l. Forgive a newbie, but having rooted my Galaxy W phone 18 months ago with very few problems, was hoping tab would be as reliable. Anyone help? (as I dont want to unroot just to be able to use internal sd memory.) Thanks in anticipation.
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I'm confused, how did you get apps to run on your external SD without root? Didn't know that was possible. Did you try clearing the dalvic cache? Seemed to do the trick when i had issues with lucky patcher causing that same error. I may be way off base though.
Edit: i think I'm confused, sorry, that advice is surely off. Uhm, perhaps reflashing stock and trying again,seeing as how you do not have much data to loose, using the auto root Odin flashable file.
This is what i use. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33303017
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I'm confused, how did you get apps to run on your external SD without root? Didn't know that was possible. Did you try clearing the dalvic cache? Seemed to do the trick when i had issues with lucky patcher causing that same error. I may be way off base though.
Edit: i think I'm confused, sorry, that advice is surely off. Uhm, perhaps reflashing stock and trying again,seeing as how you do not have much data to loose, using the auto root Odin flashable file.
This is what i use. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33303017
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...........Thanks for the help.. Wasnt talking about ExtSdcard, but sdcard0, the internal storage -,sorry for confusion-. Although "Install manager" shows all apps as being installed on "phone" memory, & "external" memory empty, both "Disk Usage" & "Root Explorer" show the same files/size used, in both locations, so I now figure I may have partition problems after rooting (I used this system : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1596) Will try the auto method as per your link if I cant solve the issue (though hoping a quick fix might be possible.!) Thanks
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...........Thanks for the help.. Wasnt talking about ExtSdcard, but sdcard0, the internal storage -,sorry for confusion-. Although "Install manager" shows all apps as being installed on "phone" memory, & "external" memory empty, both "Disk Usage" & "Root Explorer" show the same files/size used, in both locations, so I now figure I may have partition problems after rooting (I used this system : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1596) Will try the auto method as per your link if I cant solve the issue (though hoping a quick fix might be possible.!) Thanks[/QUOTe
Sorry, hope it works out for you.
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Still "not enough space" issues.
Ok. I tried wiping data, flashing back to stock rom, then chainfires auto - root method. All went well - device rooted (again!) fine, BUT I`m STILL having problems with storage. Some apps (especially games) wont install - am getting "not enough space" message, just as before. It seems that all apps that need to be intalled on the devices internal "sd" (such as" FileMount") card just wont.
Please forgive a couple of lame questions, but having never owned a tab before, I`m new to their "vagaries" - Also I have searched here & other online forums for an answer, so forgive my badgering all you "fonts of tekkie wisdom."
. Mine is the 8gb model, & I know a lot of this is taken up by system/ram etc - the "device memory" reports a total of 4.49gb, but TB (& other root apps like sd maid) states : Rom 1.26 gb, internal 4.92GB, sd card 4.82gb (with exactly the same space used in both , i.e. 1.50gb. I also have 32gb micro sd inserted. - Is there an internal partition for the "sdcard0" space , or it there a "physical" internal sd card ? If so how do I format thhis? If not could I have a partition problem? (The reason I ask is that none of the "move to sd" apps I have tried like app2sd, install manager etc work - They state, apps have moved when they clearly havent.
So I think it may be an internal partition problem, (which I presume hasnt been solved by reflashing stock, and re- rooting.) - I did notice that when I was re-rooting by CF auto root, in odin there was partition check box, but CF instructions said "if, & ONLY IF, device is bricked, to check this box. - So how can I , - 1. confirm whats causing the problem?, & 2. -Solve it?
Thanks for any help & advise hopefully, proffered, forthwith.:fingers-crossed:
do a simple thing! factory reset your tab. click format sd ! these issues are solved just by formatting the sd, be it internal! :good::good:
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Buff52 said:
Ok. I tried wiping data, flashing back to stock rom, then chainfires auto - root method. All went well - device rooted (again!) fine, BUT I`m STILL having problems with storage. Some apps (especially games) wont install - am getting "not enough space" message, just as before. It seems that all apps that need to be intalled on the devices internal "sd" (such as" FileMount") card just wont.
Please forgive a couple of lame questions, but having never owned a tab before, I`m new to their "vagaries" - Also I have searched here & other online forums for an answer, so forgive my badgering all you "fonts of tekkie wisdom."
. Mine is the 8gb model, & I know a lot of this is taken up by system/ram etc - the "device memory" reports a total of 4.49gb, but TB (& other root apps like sd maid) states : Rom 1.26 gb, internal 4.92GB, sd card 4.82gb (with exactly the same space used in both , i.e. 1.50gb. I also have 32gb micro sd inserted. - Is there an internal partition for the "sdcard0" space , or it there a "physical" internal sd card ? If so how do I format thhis? If not could I have a partition problem? (The reason I ask is that none of the "move to sd" apps I have tried like app2sd, install manager etc work - They state, apps have moved when they clearly havent.
So I think it may be an internal partition problem, (which I presume hasnt been solved by reflashing stock, and re- rooting.) - I did notice that when I was re-rooting by CF auto root, in odin there was partition check box, but CF instructions said "if, & ONLY IF, device is bricked, to check this box. - So how can I , - 1. confirm whats causing the problem?, & 2. -Solve it?
Thanks for any help & advise hopefully, proffered, forthwith.:fingers-crossed:
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Its a partition, its an emulated SD card. I think the post above me has the right idea.
Also, none of those apps will work. You will need use a sdcard swap script, gl2sd(app), foldermount, or some root app or script that is similar to those.
I think you will need a custom recovery, (like cwm, or twrp) to format the internal "sdcard", i never really used the stock recovery much, but it seems like an option they would leave out. I think there is an oden flashable in developer section. I would find links for you, but i got to get the kids ready. Shouldn't be hard to find.
If you can not format the internal SD using stock recovery, here is a link to the Odin flash able cwm.
PS. I really do not think it is a partition prob., and i wouldn't click the repartition option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27812563
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Fixed!!
OK Folks - seems I have fixed the problem, by uninstalling all apps (inc "moving" apps) that dont work or are "buggy" , cleaning/wiping caches/data, then I was able to install FolderMount from here, and now all the instability/storage problems gone. (Am so impressed with FolderMount have bought pro, as I am a bit windy when in comes to T.E`s or running scripts! My 32gb is filling fast enough anyway!)
Thanks for the help chaps - dont know what us "am hacks" would do without you! :highfive:
Buff52 said:
OK Folks - seems I have fixed the problem, by uninstalling all apps (inc "moving" apps) that dont work or are "buggy" , cleaning/wiping caches/data, then I was able to install FolderMount from here, and now all the instability/storage problems gone. (Am so impressed with FolderMount have bought pro, as I am a bit windy when in comes to T.E`s or running scripts! My 32gb is filling fast enough anyway!)
Thanks for the help chaps - dont know what us "am hacks" would do without you! :highfive:
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Cool, glad to hear it. I love foldermount. After weeks of searching, that app/dev came to the rescue, it is well worth buying pro!
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I think that problem is whit all roms which can´t install aps after one time because real internal memory must have same space free though roms supports ext2in and that´s whay you could not install after one time more apps thoug you have enough internal memory.Problem is when you install aps i don´t know whay bat all from aps don´t movs in ext partition thoug she internall memory is and when real internal memory is 0mb then you could not install more apps and some wont work because she have no space for cache or eg.Sorry for bad english.
speedest said:
I think that problem is whit all roms which can´t install aps after one time because real internal memory must have same space free though roms supports ext2in and that´s whay you could not install after one time more apps thoug you have enough internal memory.Problem is when you install aps i don´t know whay bat all from aps don´t movs in ext partition thoug she internall memory is and when real internal memory is 0mb then you could not install more apps and some wont work because she have no space for cache or eg.Sorry for bad english.
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I didnt get u ...but anyway try this...use "memory increasing SCRIPTS"
Example : http://d-h.st/xlN (try this)
hit THANX if I helped