[Q] Get Xoom now or wait? - General Questions and Answers

I am currently living in Japan and found the Wifi Xoom for about 450 USD on Amazon.jp.
As it seems a good price, I am tempted to buy it; the only thing holding me back is knowing Kal-el based tablets are just around the corner.
Am I right in holding off? What are the chances of a Kal-el tablet costing about as much (don't really want to go over 500 USD for a tablet) at or reasonably close after launch? Is the Tegra2 fast enough for a 720p tablet? I have tried several of the ones available in shops here (Lenovo Ideapad, Acer Iconia and Transformer, Samsung Galaxy 10.1, Toshiba Regza tablet) and the UI (browser in particular) seems to lag. Is this due to the crap skins manufacturers have saddles Honeycomb with (and in this case, has the Xoom been spared the same fate) or is the Tegra2 just not enough to run Honeycomb smoothly?

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Gtab price drop after 1st qtr 2011?

How low do you think the gtab's price will drop after all the tablets come out? $350 or lower, maybe? I've heard of the Asus Tegra 2 tablet which will have a price point starting at $399.
What do you think?
Who knows...
There are also a whole bunch of tablets in the $500+ range and many that are smaller that cost more then $399.
Netbooks are in the $200 - $300 range and have many more parts, so why are tablets more expensive then netbooks?
alphadog00 said:
Who knows...
There are also a whole bunch of tablets in the $500+ range and many that are smaller that cost more then $399.
Netbooks are in the $200 - $300 range and have many more parts, so why are tablets more expensive then netbooks?
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I keep wondering about that also.
Some things are a wash (screen, physical conns., etc.) but:
Netbook:
+ keyboard
+ Windows license cost ($35?)
+ Drive or SSD ($50?)
Tablet:
+ touchscreen
Seems like a tablet should cost less than a netbook?
Probably we're paying for lower volumes and covering their tooling costs...
Jim
ASUS transformer is scheduled to be released by April (tegra2 + 512M + min-hdmi + IPS screen with $399). To be honest, by that time, viewsonic may release Gtablet 2, Gtablet 1st generation may not be sold anymore, so there may not be a price drop.
Don't worry, the Gtablet is very good, and we just need to find a 10.1 inch IPS replacement screen (with a reasonable price ~$50), then, we are all set.
This is electronic equipment. You have to expect that whatever you pay for it now will not be the price 3 months from now.
We also get to use this for 3 months before everyone else starts pumping out new tablets, it's already better than the Ipad and $100 less than the Ipad.
You might see it disappear off the shelves before you see a major price drop - I would suspect the former. My guess is that it will disappear from the B&M stores in the next 4 to 6 months. I actually don't think it's going to drop under $350 again, it will probably just fade away.
It really depends on whether or not Viewsonic feels that the item is making money, and what its plans are for a GTab successor. I guess CES will tell the tale on the second part.
My guess is they will release JUST ENOUGH updates to get it half way working right and then drop it and announce the successor.
Hopefully our dev community will take us up to honeycomb before dropping it and moving on (would be good enough for me).
Price drop? Doubt it will go below $350 before successor hits.
Maybe something like that mystery 320 w/1GB and an IPS screen w/1280x resolution for the Gtab2??
That'd be cool!
tyy10002 said:
ASUS transformer is scheduled to be released by April (tegra2 + 512M + min-hdmi + IPS screen with $399). To be honest, by that time, viewsonic may release Gtablet 2, Gtablet 1st generation may not be sold anymore, so there may not be a price drop.
Don't worry, the Gtablet is very good, and we just need to find a 10.1 inch IPS replacement screen (with a reasonable price ~$50), then, we are all set.
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I know my gtab is very good. I never thought the gtab was unfairly priced even at $399. When I saw the asus price this prompted me to think a price drop is looming for the gtab which would indicate that tablet prices would stablize after the 1st qtr. (Which would be great).
I honestly thought the gtab would eventually be the "bargain" tablet of 2011 compared to the newer tablets.
We're still a few months away for honeycomb to come out. I'm going to enjoy the most out of my gtab until then. I'm guessing honeycomb for the gtab will follow soon after... official or unofficial.

What to buy: G-Tablet vs. Xoom

So I am trying to figure out if I should buy the g-tablet or wait a couple weeks and buy the Xoom. Here are the differences I have found so far.
Xoom Pros
Better Screen (1280x800 vs 1024x600)
More RAM (1GB vs 512MB)
Has GPS
Better camera
HDMI (without dock)
Twice as much storage (internal 32GB vs 16GB)
Honeycomb out of the box
G-tablet Pros
2 usb ports (1 full and 1 mini)
Cheaper $375ish new vs $600(rumored)
Good development community
So I am leaning towards the Xoom. Seems like the extra features are worth the $225?
Am I missing anything????
I think you missed the price of the Xoom. From everything I have heard the price is at least $800.
hunteradh said:
So I am trying to figure out if I should buy the g-tablet or wait a couple weeks and buy the Xoom. Here are the differences I have found so far.
Xoom Pros
Better Screen (1280x800 vs 1024x600)
More RAM (1GB vs 512MB)
Has GPS
Better camera
HDMI (without dock)
Twice as much storage (internal 32GB vs 16GB)
Honeycomb out of the box
G-tablet Pros
2 usb ports (1 full and 1 mini)
Cheaper $375ish new vs $600(rumored)
Good development community
So I am leaning towards the Xoom. Seems like the extra features are worth the $225?
Am I missing anything????
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The $600ish price is for the Wifi model that doesn't have a confirmed release date. If you don't need a tablet now, yeah I would just wait a couple of months or so and get the wifi only Xoom or wait for the 3G version to drop in price.
Comparing the Xoom and Gtablet is comparing a Luxury car with a Economy car. Do you want the bells and whistles or do you just want something to get you where you want to go?
wait until the lg slate aka optimus pad comes out as well as sumsungs honeycomb tab then make your choice
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Let us not forget that Moto has been locking their bootloaders so your at their mercy for upgrades. If you can wait and don't want a GTab there will be many unlocked devices on the way. BTW, the GTab is completely open and almost unbrickable
Just a thought, if you wait, then the next best thing will be roumored to be coming and you will be waiting again. That being said, if price isn't an issue, and the possiblilty of a locked bootloader isn't an issue, then wait for the Xoom.
I anticipate much better viewing angles, better placement of the headphone jack, power and volume buttons (I hate the fact that the headphone jack is the bottom left but the hard buttons are at the top right so when I'm holding it with headphones i have to hold it top left and bottom right :s), likely better support, probably more development and community support since it will be the first Honeycomb tablet, and most importantly a lot more quality accessories.
I'll be selling my G-tab for a Xoom next month. I want to give Xoom a month or so burn in to see if the price drops and to get a chance to look at the potential alternatives (LG, Samsung, ASUS). That is assuming its bootloader isn't completely locked down and with Moto's recent change in stance towards the dev community I can't image that it would be.
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One more: haptic feedback.
Being an owner of the GTablet and also faced with the same choices - its a tough one.
I see it this way and will depend on your priorities:
If your priorities >= (screen, vendor support, GPS, Android 3.0) and wait time >= NOW then
BUY (ZOOM)
ELSEIF priorities >= (independent support, Cost, Hack-ability) wait time <= NOW then
BUY(GTblet)
ELSE
BUY(IPAD)
hunteradh said:
So I am trying to figure out if I should buy the g-tablet or wait a couple weeks and buy the Xoom. Here are the differences I have found so far.
Xoom Pros
Better Screen (1280x800 vs 1024x600)
More RAM (1GB vs 512MB)
Has GPS
Better camera
HDMI (without dock)
Twice as much storage (internal 32GB vs 16GB)
Honeycomb out of the box
G-tablet Pros
2 usb ports (1 full and 1 mini)
Cheaper $375ish new vs $600(rumored)
Good development community
So I am leaning towards the Xoom. Seems like the extra features are worth the $225?
Am I missing anything????
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This is just my opinion, but features aside, I'd wait to see what how locked down the moto will be, how easy or hard it is to brick, and how much community support it gets, and only then, decide.
Jim
If you want something now with an nvidia tegra 2 processor at a very good price and you are comfortable flashing roms then the gtablet is the way to go. The gtablet is very well supported by the xda dev community.
If you want a tablet that is ready to use out of the box, i.e. you don't like mucking with firmware, then wait a few weeks/months. There's going to be a flood of nice tablets but they will cost more and may be tied to wireless carriers.
I am very happy with my new gtablet.
Malata
Don't forget the new versions of the Gtablet.....
http://liliputing.com/tag/malata-smb-b1005
This could be a competitor for the Xoom also.
The Xoom even at the subsidized $600 with Verizon contract isn't a good buy, cost wise. The blogosphere is in an uproar over the cost of this thing compared to other offerings which has been horrible for the street cred/exitement building up before launch. Yeah, the Xoom is pretty and will be the first to offer Honeycomb but their marketing along with Verizon have done an absolutely terrible job of leaking false prices, charging too much for activating features (wifi), and requiring a 3G plan to be tied down to which makes it much more expensive than just buying it outright for $800.
With rumors of a $599 wifi only version of the Xoom coming you have to decide if the $200 difference is worth it to you.
No matter what rom base or how talented the developers are, the gtablet will never have the better screen, the extra 512 Meg ram or the extra hardware sensors the Xoom will feature....or real Google/market support.
Now....is that worth $200 more is completely your decision. I will possibly pick up a Xoom to replace my gtablet around my birthday (May) unless other more capable tabs are released within the same price range.
The gtablet will be something to play with, tweak, hack, etc....while (for me) the Xoom will be the tab to use and show off to my iPad loving friends.
Sent from my Viewsonic 10" GTab...
tcrews said:
With rumors of a $599 wifi only version of the Xoom coming you have to decide if the $200 difference is worth it to you.
No matter what rom base or how talented the developers are, the gtablet will never have the better screen, the extra 512 Meg ram or the extra hardware sensors the Xoom will feature....or real Google/market support.
Now....is that worth $200 more is completely your decision. I will possibly pick up a Xoom to replace my gtablet around my birthday (May) unless other more capable tabs are released within the same price range.
The gtablet will be something to play with, tweak, hack, etc....while (for me) the Xoom will be the tab to use and show off to my iPad loving friends.
Sent from my Viewsonic 10" GTab...
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So apparently the keyboard on the GTab is worth writing home about.
I think I'm still waiting for the next line-up of tablets before I pull the trigger on the GTab. I'm sure they'll at least lower the price considerably right before it's nixed.
Kayak83 said:
I think I'm still waiting for the next line-up of tablets before I pull the trigger on the GTab. I'm sure they'll at least lower the price considerably right before it's nixed.
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I'm not sure I'd count on that. In fact, most of the tablets that ARE out there have seen their prices go UP since December. With the XOOM costing so much, and the prices that have been announced for some of the other tablets, the second tier folks are finding they can charge more and still be a bargain by comparison.
In fact giving how costs overseas are going up on transportation an raw materials in general, I am thinking seriously about getting two more G-Tabs as soon as I get my tax refund before they get another price hike as well.
Reality is these tabs will never replace a laptop these are consumption devices so why pay the price for one at the price of a good computer?
Xoom vs Gtab.
I understand all the questions.....got the Gtab and couldn't be happier. maybe the doom will be all that....but??? don't have to wait....honeycomb will come.
EwanG said:
I'm not sure I'd count on that. In fact, most of the tablets that ARE out there have seen their prices go UP since December. With the XOOM costing so much, and the prices that have been announced for some of the other tablets, the second tier folks are finding they can charge more and still be a bargain by comparison.
In fact giving how costs overseas are going up on transportation an raw materials in general, I am thinking seriously about getting two more G-Tabs as soon as I get my tax refund before they get another price hike as well.
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They won't raise the price of the gtablet. That's unheard of. Maybe if you're comparing to some sort of one time promotion. You don't release a product at one price and then 6 months later, raise it.

Who will win the Android tablet race?

So which tablet manufactuer do you think will lead Honeycomb into the mainstream and who will bow out?
Many to choose from but I think Samsung will win this round and put Honeycomb tablets on the map and put a dent into ipad sales.
The loser or losers, Acer and HTC. Acer has already seen a decline in orders and HTC for now is just to overpriced and still on Gingerbread.
WHat do you guys and girls think?
I am considering of buying one, but I do not have any decision whih one yet.
ACER is a big no go for me.
HTC promised to update the Flyer with Honeycomb (let see if they keep this promise) but it is way too expensive.
ASUS Transformer...way too expensive...€499 (WiFi, 32GB)+€149(docking) is way too expensive too.
Samsung new 10.1 and 8.9 are also still a bit expensive.
The comming Archos 80 G9 could be my future Android tablet since it will costs about €254 www.archos.com/products/gen9/index.html?country=gb&lang=en

Xoom 2 letdown?

Anyone else find the specs and especially design of the xoom 2 a let down?
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Absolutely. I had always assumed that I would upgrade to the 2. Now - no way. Going to wait and see what Lenovo does with screen res...
it's depends how you see things ... For sure is better device than the majority of the first generation honeycomb tablets .
For euro market : if your looking for 10 inch tablet xoom 2 with price around 440 euros when you compare it with tablet like galaxy tabl 10.1 that cost 550 euros looks a good choice but when you know that in one or two month from now you will have the option to buy asus transformer prime that will cost around 500 euros probably hold off any purchases for tablets looks like the correct choice ...
If your looking for smaller than 10 inch tablet xoom2 ME ( 380 euro) looks much more appealing because is there is no competitor in that category in that price range ...
In usa market things are little defferent because Prime is hitting the market now so for the price that motorola and verizon asking for xoom2 , it has no chance ... Prime is a better device ...
Generally every thing is a matter price/performance radio . Is not a bad device but if you own a first gen honeycomp device there is a no reason to get xoom2 . If your getting now HC tablet and you live in Europe there is no reason to get 1gen HC tablet like transformer for 400 or galaxy tab for 500 euro and not choose Xoom2 but is maybe better to wait for something better in 2 -3 months . if you live in usa asus prime is a safe choice ... Xoom 2 ME looking more appealing to me in general than xoom2 but in 6 months from know it will look outdated ... Technology and gadgets is not a cheap hobby I don't need a tablet but i want most of them ... I have galaxy tab 7.0 and i am getting Xoom2 ME
yeah...ive thought there is no reason considering we have great development going out for the xoom

ASUS 7" Nexus Tablet Discussion

I was surprised to not see a thread created already in General Discussion for this topic.
As AndroidandMe reported last week, ASUS was rumored to be creating the first Nexus branded Tablet with a price between $200-$250. As the week went on, more rumors swirled (and are starting to look pretty solid at this point) that ASUS will in fact be making the first Nexus (7") Tablet featuring stock Android 4.0, a dual-core Qualcomm processor (potentially the Snapdragon S4) and is looking to be priced at $149!
At this point, even though the first Nexus Tablet won't be a quad-core, this is looking like a really sweet deal. I personally will probably replace my Kindle Fire with this if the specs stand true.
Anyway, just figured I'd start a discussion. Here are some source links:
Initial Rumor
Digitime Echos Rumor of Nexus Tablet by ASUS
Source Says Tablet Is A "Done Deal"
Additional Article One
Additional Article Two
It does sound pretty good except I can't bring myself to pay more than $150 for a 7" tablet. I would pay $200 for a 10" tablet but no more than that. It might be because I got a TouchPad when it went on the fire sale. Now I want all tablets to be that price. I blame HP. LOL
Make it 10' -> (As screen is bigger, more allowed internal space, the price goes up).
I would pay $300 or $350 for a 64 Gb 10 inches screen.
Profit!!!
I am really curious to the specs the end result is going to have. Even more because this even lower price than said before. It sure is going to be a nice gadget.
If it is anything like the memo i can see this being a massive hit. Put in either an S4 or a Tegra 3 like the memo a 1280x800 IPS display and micro sd card and people will see this at a store then see the price then see it on their receipt. I myself have a transformer that's almost a year old and I would pick one of these up as my go to tablet and the TF as the work tablet (keyboard dock)
Would be good to see a Nexus tablet, there are no GED tablets out there*
Xoom doesn't count as it is ONLY the wifi version that was on sale in ONLY the United States. Though if they really want to to take off and go head to head with the dedicated 200~ tablets they need to improve their ecosystem, open up google movies, books and music to more countries
I would be very interested in a 10"+ tablet, 7" doesn't do it for me. Bigger the better.
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I'm not sure why people are talking about 10" tablets - aren't there plenty of those around? The 7" Nexus is clearly a direct response to Amazon's success with the Kindle Fire (if rumors are to be believed even Apple is paying attention), and in order to compete with it they need to be at $200 or below.
At $149 I doubt they will be using the S4/Krait, but we can always hope. In any case, I was more than a little tempted by some of the crappy ~$140 Chinese Cortex A8 tablets available. $149 for a Nexus tablet, even if it's only a dualcore Snapdragon S3, is an insane deal.
I do hope Google brings out two types of nexus Tablet. A $249 10 inch tablet and a 7 inch tablet at $149.
I think if they can do the two above and make the Tablets desirable I really think the Android Tablet ecosystem could really start to kick off
I already have a 10 inch tablet, but would very much consider this for a second. The Nexus is the selling point, as long as battery life were excellent I am on board.
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Make it 10' -> (As screen is bigger, more allowed internal space, the price goes up).
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But where would you put a 10 foot tablet?
im kind of disappointed if the memo370 is being discontinued and downgraded and being replaced with the rumors of the new specs. Google is obviously not liking the fact that the kindle is built off the blackberry playbook chassis and the tweaked OS that provides google with zero commission. In any case I hope they undercut the kindle fire in price if they do but its hard to say im looking forward to it when amazon is expected to come out with updates. Honestly, they need to come out with a 10" ipad killer that costs half the price or else they won't change the game.
It would really suck if this tablet replaces the asus memo. Me and my friends were all going to get one. And if this new nexus is just going to just be a dual core, then how is it any better than the nook tablet? They're probably going to get rid of the micro sd card slot like they've been doing. I'm just salty because I was looking forward to the memo
The last months, I began to get interested in Tablets and nearly bought a Lenovo Ideapad and a (shame on me) iPad, but i could resist. But when the rumours are true I buy one, even when its "only" a Dual-Core.
Normally I´m interested in a 10" (or more like the Samsung 11" and the Toshiba 13") , Quad core Tablet with Keyboard Dock. 7" is too small for a couch, but for rhis prize, with google Support I cant´t say no
Looks like this is being pushed back until July to try and shave off manufacturing cost to keep it at the $199 mark.
I've been looking to get a tablet for some general gaming and thought this might be a good one to look at. Hopefully the specs are decent otherwise I may have to pay a little extra for something that will play most games well.
Regardless though, it is good to see Google, Asus, Nvidia (and anyone else involved) trying to create tablets for the mainstream with good specs at a great price. This can only be good for the Play Store and the tablet market in the long run.

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