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I have tried virtually every type of rom in search of one that is stable, and I can't find one! I've tried froyo sense, gingerbread sense, CM6.1, CM7, MIUI 2.2/2.3. I don't even bother to try overclocking anymore, but all of the roms suffer from random reboots and random app crashing. I'm starting to believe there is some kind of hardware problem with my phone as I never had this many problems with my original desire or the hero before that.
It's not like I do anything crazy with my phone either, I run:
2 gmail accounts
twitter
linkedin
weather app
documents to go
no games
Am I alone with this, or are there others out there in a similar situation? All I want (ideally) is a vanilla 2.2 or 2.3 rom that is just STABLE.
I have tried alot of the ROMS for this phone. I really don't have any problems at all, since going to the MIUI ROM I haven't had a crash yet. And before that maybe only 1 or 2 a week.
I have yet to have stability issues... Are you wiping all user data, clearing cache, and clearing dalvik before flashing a new ROM
I have had random quirks here and there, but no more then I did on the stock rom. I had more fcs on the stock rom then i have had with any custom rom I have tried.
mudknot2005 said:
I have had random quirks here and there, but no more then I did on the stock rom. I had more fcs on the stock rom then i have had with any custom rom I have tried.
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i'm with you on this....i have had very, very few force closes with stock or cooked roms, but i did have lots of random lag with the stock rom. This is initially what made me finally root and flash. I had quite a few small problems with MIUI and CM7, but have had nothing but great things to say about CoreDroid.
I have had absolutely no problems with the two roms I've been flip flopping between (CM7 and Cognition). Every time I change though, I make sure to do a reset, cache wipe, dalvik wipe to make sure I'm doing a clean install. I'm not 100% sure what doing all that means, but a lot of the devs specify it in their instructions, and I'm sure they know more than me!
Maybe get back to stock everything, and then try flashing either CM7 or Cognition? Although I hear others are stable as well, these are the only two I've tried.
(I'm using cognition right now, but I am not running it overclocked. I scaled it back down to 1000 with setcpu.)
To those who asked, yes, I'm wiping cache/dalvik, etc. Every time I flash a new rom. I can handle the occasional app crashing or FC, but the thing that drives me nuts is when everything locks up and drops back to the boot screen (not a "full" reboot).
Ah well, maybe i'll try cognition or Core and see how things go.
I keep hoping an AOSP rom will pop up because the best rom i had ever used was oxygen for the original desire. Rock solid, and fast.
I can't help but to wonder what your exact flash method is. Because, like the others here, I too have had no problems with any of the roms at all. I've gone a whole month without a single FC while using 3 or 4 different roms.
Dashaiva said:
To those who asked, yes, I'm wiping cache/dalvik, etc. Every time I flash a new rom. I can handle the occasional app crashing or FC, but the thing that drives me nuts is when everything locks up and drops back to the boot screen (not a "full" reboot).
Ah well, maybe i'll try cognition or Core and see how things go.
I keep hoping an AOSP rom will pop up because the best rom i had ever used was oxygen for the original desire. Rock solid, and fast.
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I'm behind on the terminology, but how is CM7 not AOSP? I thought AOSP stood for Android Open Source Project or something. AKA "pure", vanilla android.
Also, I think you might have a lemon of a device. If you're sure you are doing everything right and following instructions, I would see if I coul exchange your inspire.
Dashaiva said:
I have tried virtually every type of rom in search of one that is stable, and I can't find one! I've tried froyo sense, gingerbread sense, CM6.1, CM7, MIUI 2.2/2.3. I don't even bother to try overclocking anymore, but all of the roms suffer from random reboots and random app crashing. I'm starting to believe there is some kind of hardware problem with my phone as I never had this many problems with my original desire or the hero before that.
It's not like I do anything crazy with my phone either, I run:
2 gmail accounts
twitter
linkedin
weather app
documents to go
no games
Am I alone with this, or are there others out there in a similar situation? All I want (ideally) is a vanilla 2.2 or 2.3 rom that is just STABLE.
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I've been using CM7 since I got my Inspire in the first of March and I've not had any problems. That's with 120 apps and overclocked to 1300-1500MHz, too. I think you should exchange yours for a new one.
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TheBassman369 said:
I've been using CM7 since I got my Inspire in the first of March and I've not had any problems. That's with 120 apps and overclocked to 1300-1500MHz, too. I think you should exchange yours for a new one.
CM7 Inspire 4G
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I too have tried a few other ROMs and always come back to CM7. I love the AOSP feel (vanilla Android is AWESOME) and I'm overclocked to 1.2Ghz and CM7 never FCs or resets itself. I had a few FCs and resets on other ROMs which made me miss the CM7 experience and simplicity. Yes Sense is the nicest Android skin but nothing IMO beats the experience CM7 gives you on this device!
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I'm behind on the terminology, but how is CM7 not AOSP? I thought AOSP stood for Android Open Source Project or something. AKA "pure", vanilla android.
Also, I think you might have a lemon of a device. If you're sure you are doing everything right and following instructions, I would see if I coul exchange your inspire.
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CM is not "pure" vanilla android.
As for the op's problem, I have minor issues occasionally with some roms but nothing like what you are experiencing.
In the life of this phone, I have easily flashed a good 15-20 different Roms onto the device and used most of them for a decent amount of time. NO ROM has ever worked very good at all. The best luck I have ever had were with a couple like Valhalla and Octane that would work pretty decent for a couple months then the problems would always return in full force. Again, EVERY single rom has gotten extremely annoying problems eventually. I have had it with this phone.
I don't know what I could be missing here, as I have tried multiple times to start completely fresh from stock and wipe everything before and after a flash, but nothing works. The current ROM was installed after an sd card format, full wipe, wiped caches, etc... Right now it will randomly exit the messaging app frequently, has wifi problems, apps force close, random restarts, it often won't upload/download things because it says it doesn't have an sd card, and to top it off, CWM is having problems and will get stuck on a screen with just a picture and no words.
This phone is borderline unusable for its stability and other issues and I am tired of trying to make it work well. I am not even new to flashing roms, but this phone is a headache. Someone, please help me figure out what is wrong with this phone.
Even with these problems and my long rant here, this would still be a great phone and should have plenty of life left in it. I had minimal problems with my old SGS Captivate that I had before this, so I don't know what is wrong. Perhaps a piece of hardware is faulty? I would highly doubt that. I need help!
Use the GB Starter Pack. If you are using Titanium to put everything back, it may lead to problems. I remember a couple of times where restoring all my apks and data with Titanium caused a soft boot or force close cycle.
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I stopped using TB a long time ago. That would not be the problem.
What ROM are you currently using right now. Maybe see if you can take a log of it to find out why the things Messaging might not be working?
From my tank of a Galaxy S 4G. Seen more floor than a rookie lightweight in wrestling.
GreyDark said:
What ROM are you currently using right now. Maybe see if you can take a log of it to find out why the things Messaging might not be working?
From my tank of a Galaxy S 4G. Seen more floor than a rookie lightweight in wrestling.
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It is currently on the non-themed Octane 3.0. I don't have the phone next to me right now, but can you explain the process for taking a log?
It sounds like you've wasted too much time trying flashing roms and trying to make the piece of crap perfect than actually using the phone. As much as I hate the stock of this phone, I will suggest using the one click kj6 heimdall then root it and voodoo no tweaks. Also start from fresh and try octane v3.0 w/o tweaks or kernal updates.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11930-learn-to-logcat-like-a-pro/
I hope that helps you out. There are some apps on the market like CatLog and aLogcat that also take logs if the guide doesn't work for you.
Vicious89 said:
It sounds like you've wasted too much time trying flashing roms and trying to make the piece of crap perfect than actually using the phone. As much as I hate the stock of this phone, I will suggest using the one click kj6 heimdall then root it and voodoo no tweaks. Also start from fresh and try octane v3.0 w/o tweaks or kernal updates.
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Im not trying to make it perfect at all. I am just trying to make it usable. It is extremely annoying when all you want to do is create a message but the app constantly force closes no matter what you do. The dialer has had the same closing problem also. Or the frequent rebooting multiple times a day. Like I said, I have had a few good flashes, but they only last for a few months until the problems come back.
To me, it seems as if though you are having some cache problems. Start fresh. Flash to froyo and try. If that doesn't work, then take your phone to t-mobile, because that is a hardware problem. I have been using the same rom for a month or two now (latest beta version of my AOSP Style) and I haven't had a single fc. I have even used processor tweaks and whatnot. SO before you cuss this phone out, I suggest you try my solution, it is guaranteed to work.
Oh yeah, as air said, it might actually be a hardware problem.
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To me, it seems as if though you are having some cache problems. Start fresh. Flash to froyo and try. If that doesn't work, then take your phone to t-mobile, because that is a hardware problem. I have been using the same rom for a month or two now (latest beta version of my AOSP Style) and I haven't had a single fc. I have even used processor tweaks and whatnot. SO before you cuss this phone out, I suggest you try my solution, it is guaranteed to work.
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I have flashed back to froyo already, unfortunately. And there isn't a contract on the phone anyway. Do you know what piece of hardware would cause this though?
Not really sure, but if you are back to stock, I'd try to exchange it for another phone. I've had this phone since June (also not on contract), and I haven't had any of the problems you've had. Yes, I do need to reboot my phone every once in a while because bluetooth sticks and won't come on, but that's about it.
Usually, after I flash a rom and restore my programs/theme, I'll go back into cwm, wipe cache, wipe, dalvik, fix permissions, and then reboot and let the phone sit for a while. That usually takes care of making sure everything works right.
Currently I'm using this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1571595
ICS Smooth Ice
But I'm having a lot of problems with it. I don't know if it's unique to that specific ROM or what. For example, using Phone is very shoddy at best; it takes forever to open and each button press has a lot of lag. Contacts typically crashes right away. For some reason, apps like Rdio that use lockscreen player controls don't show up on the lockscreen. Lots of apps like WidgetLocker force close from start. Just lots of little quirks all of the OS as well, responsiveness issues and freezing. I haven't done anything unusual to the ROM, just stock latest version of it.
I just want as close to a base ICS experience as possible (although maybe with CRT lock... I love that lol). Is there a more stable/faster/better ROM for ICS or am I going to have problems anywhere? I read around but I still have a hard time really grasping what I'm going to get where and I was hoping some more experienced people could maybe send me in the right direction.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1602216
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mrmonkey3319 said:
Currently I'm using this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1571595
ICS Smooth Ice
But I'm having a lot of problems with it. I don't know if it's unique to that specific ROM or what. For example, using Phone is very shoddy at best; it takes forever to open and each button press has a lot of lag. Contacts typically crashes right away. For some reason, apps like Rdio that use lockscreen player controls don't show up on the lockscreen. Lots of apps like WidgetLocker force close from start. Just lots of little quirks all of the OS as well, responsiveness issues and freezing. I haven't done anything unusual to the ROM, just stock latest version of it.
I just want as close to a base ICS experience as possible (although maybe with CRT lock... I love that lol). Is there a more stable/faster/better ROM for ICS or am I going to have problems anywhere? I read around but I still have a hard time really grasping what I'm going to get where and I was hoping some more experienced people could maybe send me in the right direction.
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I have 0 issues with remfis ROM what did you come from, ics leak or gb...
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mrmonkey3319 said:
Currently I'm using this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1571595
ICS Smooth Ice
But I'm having a lot of problems with it. I don't know if it's unique to that specific ROM or what. For example, using Phone is very shoddy at best; it takes forever to open and each button press has a lot of lag. Contacts typically crashes right away. For some reason, apps like Rdio that use lockscreen player controls don't show up on the lockscreen. Lots of apps like WidgetLocker force close from start. Just lots of little quirks all of the OS as well, responsiveness issues and freezing. I haven't done anything unusual to the ROM, just stock latest version of it.
I just want as close to a base ICS experience as possible (although maybe with CRT lock... I love that lol). Is there a more stable/faster/better ROM for ICS or am I going to have problems anywhere? I read around but I still have a hard time really grasping what I'm going to get where and I was hoping some more experienced people could maybe send me in the right direction.
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Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
Stock JB was very laggy on my NS for some reason. Even swipping pages in the home screen was laggy. Some apps would instantly crash, too.
I've been running custom JB roms on my Nexus S, and its been running really well. The only thing is im experiencing the same lag that you do with Google Now. It has caused me to open my browser to do a search, which is disappointing, because in GB and ICS, the Google Search bar was so quick and convenient.
shyguyhighfive said:
Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
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The cards could be taking longer to load because of your flaky connectivity. Can't expect them to load instantly if your data/signal is dying all the time, can you?
Definitely an inferior experience here on stock JB compared to ICS. Really hope Google fix this in an incremental update, as it's a bit silly their second-best phone can't run JB properly.
polobunny said:
The cards could be taking longer to load because of your flaky connectivity. Can't expect them to load instantly if your data/signal is dying all the time, can you?
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heh, that's a fair point. I'm not so upset with the cards taking a long time to load as I am that, while they are loading, the OS is very unstable. It's difficult for me to bring up the keyboard and search google while it's trying to load those cards. I can't believe it's not butter
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Definitely an inferior experience here on stock JB compared to ICS. Really hope Google fix this in an incremental update, as it's a bit silly their second-best phone can't run JB properly.
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My thoughts exactly . I was excited to get back on stock so I could have a functional phone without any added bells and whistles. New features are nice, but not at this price.
Try running a custom kernel.. Try the thalamus kernel its very stockish and it's SUPER smooth..
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I'm running stock on [email protected] with a matrix kernel everything smooth for me
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I had problems with JB too. There were a few lags, especially with Google Now. Some apps would crash every time I tried to open them, and the launcher crashed every time I tried to change wall paper.
shyguyhighfive said:
Howdy hello,
I've been on my Nexus S since GB. Ever since I've rooted and been running custom ROMs. I've had some awesome experiences but some crappy ones at the same time, all of which I attributed to my phone running a custom ROM.
Now I've finally got the new, new stock JB on my device, and after running it for a few weeks, I'm a bit disappointed. The features are nice and all, but there are so many issues I face that make it near unusable. To name a few:
Google Now takes way too long to pull up. At least 5 seconds and even while it's loading the cards, it's very laggy. The search button used to be a quick way for me to search for something, but the is effectively ruined with this lag.
Constantly losing data / connectivity. I know this may be at the carrier level, but I've never had this much trouble. ALSO, in these cases, the phone will often be reporting that it has full bars / full 3g connectivity, so either way the phone is acting screwy. I mean seriously, the one thing I need my phone to do is make a damn phone call, yet it semi-frequently fails to do so.
Apps fail left and right. Today my youtube app crashed in the middle of the first video I pulled up on it. I know this isn't really the OS, but it's part of the stock experience, and I think android should be held responsible.
Just a few minor gripes. I'm just wondering: has anyone else experienced this? I did a full wipe before installing the stock JB rom, and I don't think it could just be root permissions making things go wacky. I may consider re-wiping and only installing a few apps, but I really don't have that much crap installed, so I'm not sure if that's the issue as well.
I saw another post recommending to get a new SIM card from AT&T. I have had mine for a few years, so that could be a possible fix for issue #2, but I don't think that's the entire reason.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks a lot all.
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Hmm I can say that AOSP JB is WAYYYY better than ICS. Soon I can port my ROM from the NS4G to the NS.
I have to agree with this. I've used stock JB when it was released, I was wowed by it's smoothness and cool animations. But everything felt a little slow and sluggish coming from ICS custom rom. After switching to Jellybro, JB feels both very fast and smooth. If you feel disappointed with JB, try using custom rom.
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I don't know if you guys with problem tried that yet, but it might be a good idea to do a factory reset. You will lose all your data if not backed up but I'm getting a feeling it could help. JB has only been smoother than ICS for most.
Looking to get an NS soon, but it may help, as others have mentioned to run a custom kernel and bump up the clock speeds a bit.
My N1 is almost perfectly smooth (very little lag and often times none) with JB installed and overclocked.
My GNEX is smooth as butter. (As to be expected). But I guess what I'm saying is, if the N1 can run JB smooth, then the NS should not have any problems.
And while I know AOSP is technically designed to run on multiple devices, only two were in mind when JB was released....the N7 and the GNEX. Everything else is an afterthought in which AOSP may not be fully optimized for the hardware that is pushing it. (Just my opinion).
And another opinion while I'm on my soap box. JB is what ICS should have been.
In my opinion 512 MB of RAM are a tight fit for Jelly Bean. I can just run 3-4 background apps without kill-restart-kill-restart-kill-restart and a constant lag.
I remember some kernels used to have compcache support. Maybe I could try to enable compcache/zram.
got556 said:
Looking to get an NS soon, but it may help, as others have mentioned to run a custom kernel and bump up the clock speeds a bit.
My N1 is almost perfectly smooth (very little lag and often times none) with JB installed and overclocked.
My GNEX is smooth as butter. (As to be expected). But I guess what I'm saying is, if the N1 can run JB smooth, then the NS should not have any problems.
And while I know AOSP is technically designed to run on multiple devices, only two were in mind when JB was released....the N7 and the GNEX. Everything else is an afterthought in which AOSP may not be fully optimized for the hardware that is pushing it. (Just my opinion).
And another opinion while I'm on my soap box. JB is what ICS should have been.
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I just got my GNex and the difference with JB on this phone is night and day. I didn't think it would be but I'm pleasantly surprised. But yeah. The RAM issue seems to be my biggest gripe with it on the NS. And for some reason, it just dominated my battery. I went through my first cycle on stock with Trinity and managed 3.5 hours of screen time over the course of almost 17 hours and still had a little under 50% remaining. My NS would've been dead long before that with the same usage pattern.....
I run stock JB with Matr1x. It works very very well.
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ekerazha said:
In my opinion 512 MB of RAM are a tight fit for Jelly Bean. I can just run 3-4 background apps without kill-restart-kill-restart-kill-restart and a constant lag.
I remember some kernels used to have compcache support. Maybe I could try to enable compcache/zram.
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Not to mention it only uses 368 mb of them. If it used the full 512, it would be pretty nice
I'm running Androxide 3.1 and used to run AdamG's custom ROM. Both ran great, no hiccups what so ever, Google now loads very fast, I guess it depends on your GPS and internet connection. My experience with JB is far better than the fastest ICS ROM out there, I believe given enough time, performance will become exceptional.
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I run stock JB with Matr1x. It works very very well.
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Not to mention it only uses 368 mb of them. If it used the full 512, it would be pretty nice
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That can be tweaked a bit with different kernels.
I am running XenonHD 9 + marmite 4.2 kernel. It's stable and smooth. Worth a try.
Are there any JB roms that, coupled with a custom kernal, are reliable enough for a serious daily driver? Every one I've tried is plagued with force stops, lockups, boot loops or are just generally unreliable. Anyone?
Every jb Rom is very reliable ..if you're getting bootloops and force closes and all that you're doing something wrong ...full wipe system and data each time you flash a new Rom ...but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable
Wrong. Factory wipes every time. Doing nothing different than with any other ICS rom.
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What Hboot are you running?
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What Hboot are you running?
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I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.
gpo1956 said:
I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.
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How about going into more detail? "bootloop" doesn't tell me much. And saying "Wrong. Doesn't work" isn't going to get you a lot of help either.
Wipe system
Factory Reset (you will have to reinstall apps if you do this)
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Flash the ROM
reboot
I haven't gotten a single ROM.out of the scope of sense that has the video function correctly. When I replay videos recorded, there is a high pitched ring. Its on every single aosp ROM.
If that doesn't need to work correctly, you should be good to go.
If you are on new hboot just flash kernel first and wipe caches, and system. Then flash ROM and gapps.
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gpo1956 said:
I'm looking for a rom that will be "business" reliable. I don't game or change roms as a hobby. I need something that can handle 40-50 phone calls, 15-20 voice mails, 50-75 emails and several texts a day without rebooting, locking up or force closings. Also, its important that Maps and Navigation work reliably and that internet works smoothly. I'm not the only one having problems with JB roms as there are numerous threads with problems others are experiencing. If I'm "doing it wrong" then how about some suggestions as to what to try. beankid, thank you for at least asking a pertinent question, without the usual smarmy [email protected]@ed comment.
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If that's really what you need, stick with an ICS rom or go stock. The JB roms are all ported over; there are no Sense JB roms for the One X yet.
absolutelygrim said:
How about going into more detail? "bootloop" doesn't tell me much. And saying "Wrong. Doesn't work" isn't going to get you a lot of help either.
Wipe system
Factory Reset (you will have to reinstall apps if you do this)
Wipe Cache
Wipe Dalvik Cache
Flash the ROM
reboot
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I do all factory resets every time I flash a rom, as I stated above. Wiping cache and dalvik goes without saying. Also, how much more detail would you like? Bootloops, force closes and lockups are pretty self explanatory. I had hoped for more than "but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable" or "Wrong. Doing it wrong." Sorry, but I simply cannot validate your self worth by giving you a Thanks for that one.
Stick to stock buddy if your going to have to rely greatly on these things than basically your answering your own question go back to a sense Rom or stock ... Peace
gpo1956 said:
I do all factory resets every time I flash a rom, as I stated above. Wiping cache and dalvik goes without saying. Also, how much more detail would you like? Bootloops, force closes and lockups are pretty self explanatory. I had hoped for more than "but it's on your part if these roms don't seem reliable" or "Wrong. Doing it wrong." Sorry, but I simply cannot validate your self worth by giving you a Thanks for that one.
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adb logcat (which for some reason tells you exactly why you bootloop and force close.. Pretty weird right?)
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I've NO problems with any of the jellybean ROMs
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I agree. I've tried a few and they've been rock solid for me. You're doing something wrong. Goo back to stock.
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gpo1956 said:
Are there any JB roms that, coupled with a custom kernal, are reliable enough for a serious daily driver? Every one I've tried is plagued with force stops, lockups, boot loops or are just generally unreliable. Anyone?
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Are you titanium restoring your apps and data from a sence rom ? If you are that will give you problems, like your saying.
Install all apps fresh and just restore data.
Wow. So all these varied opinions circle back to the simple answer: No, they are not! That's what I needed to know. Thanks.:good:
CM10 would be your best bet, as it's mostly the base for all the others to add further on top of it, so it would stand to reason that CM would be the most stable, and I can confirm that. I'm running CM10 and it's been completely stable for me. No force closes, definitely no bootloops or random reboots. The trouble at the moment on the AOSP JB side is kernels. If you stick with the stock CM10 kernel, you're pretty good. rohan's kernel is the only other kernel to add to that, and it's got some major bugs right now that DO cause bootloops and random reboots.
That said, I think you answer your own question pretty well. If you want a phone that's 100% stable and the best all around ROM for everything, it would be fairly obvious that you'd want to stick to a ROM based off a stock Sense ROM. As with anything, using something that's in development or testing isn't going to be as stable for someone has mission critical needs. The biggest gap between Sense based ICS ROMs and AOSP JB ROMs right now is the battery life. With Sense ROMs I can EASILY get 24 hours at a minimum pretty much, granted that's with less calls than you say you're making. JB is still a little lacking, there I get a full day on average, but a lot of use could lower that. If you use your phone as much as you say, you'd probably want to stick with ICS roms with better battery life.
The biggest thing is to stay away from kernels with overclocking, undervolting, other governors, etc. While this can provide a nice boost and extra features, and can be fairly stable depending on the kernel, all of those provide big wildcards for system stability, especially OC/UV which entirely depends on how well your specific phone accepts being pushed.
So, are JB ROMs stable? I'd absolutely say yes without hesitation. Are they the right ROMs for you? Probably not.
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Wow. So all these varied opinions circle back to the simple answer: No, they are not! That's what I needed to know. Thanks.:good:
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All the opinions circle back to the simple answer that the problem lies with you. Obviously since you refuse to do anything other than complain you should just relock your bootloader and RUU to stock if you want something reliable.
You also refuse to even post a logcat, which proves to me you don't care enough.
And as I said earlier.. It's a magical little tool invented by fairies that tells you exactly what the problem is.
Let me explain this to you.
Are they reliable? Yes.
Can we make the decision for you? NO.
You can be the only person in the world having these problems, doesn't change the fact that the ROMs are amazing and stable.
So instead of coming in here and not taking any advice, take your own advice.. Do what you want to do.
CM10 installed fine without any problems for me.
I run my business from the field and this phone does it all. On average I do about 25 calls and 30or so emails daily. CM10 serves me just fine.
Learn to rom.