I loaded the Blades 2 kernel on my TF along side the Revolver ROM.
How can I tell if the OC is safe and working? I am not sure if you stress test it or anything like you do on a Windows PC type device..
acdcking12345 said:
I loaded the Blades 2 kernel on my TF along side the Revolver ROM.
How can I tell if the OC is safe and working? I am not sure if you stress test it or anything like you do on a Windows PC type device..
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I've found that, in overclocking several Android devices, more often than not if you have an unstable OC, the device will either fail to boot, or will crash constantly. If it's not doing that, you're likely fine.
Um, you're not OCed yet. You need to install setcpu or cpu master and crank up the clock. Clemsyn or Blades gives you the option to OC. It doesn't just OC for you.
lol, and learn from my mistake: when overclocking, don't check the option of "set on boot" untill you have tried overclocking at the Ghz level that you want to use. Believe me, you don't want a bootloop that can only be solved by flashing or restoring from a backup.
acdcking12345 said:
I loaded the Blades 2 kernel on my TF along side the Revolver ROM.
How can I tell if the OC is safe and working? I am not sure if you stress test it or anything like you do on a Windows PC type device..
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I have done extensive overclocking and undervolting.
Set your OC and voltage settings. Then use setcpu or pimpmycpu min and max to your highest OC MHz.
Then play 1 round of Dungon Defenders. If you make it through that then open the camera.
Repeat this on every MHz from top to bottom. If you are unstable at a frequency then increase your voltage slightly (like 10 - 20 mV) and try again.
If you are stable and want to get a little bit better battery do the same thing but lower the mV until dungeon defenders crashes.
Then start to increase it until you are stable.
If your tablet reboots your way low on mV
If it freezes your low on mV
If the widgets act funny, and/ or disapear every once in awhile your in the right ball park
If everything works except your camera freezes you are very close
Some kernels have more aggressive GPU timings which you can't really change so you might want to try another's kernel if you can't get stable.
Well, it seems that I can't go higher than the 1.2 GHZ. If I go any higher, I get some weird freezes and reboots.
Now I saw the post above but I dont see where I can adjust the different voltages, etc..Maybe I am not using the right program?
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Well, it seems that I can't go higher than the 1.2 GHZ. If I go any higher, I get some weird freezes and reboots.
Now I saw the post above but I dont see where I can adjust the different voltages, etc..Maybe I am not using the right program?
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What program are you using? Try SetCpu or Pimpmycpu
baseballfanz said:
What program are you using? Try SetCpu or Pimpmycpu
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SetCPU is what I loaded
acdcking12345 said:
I loaded the Blades 2 kernel on my TF along side the Revolver ROM.
How can I tell if the OC is safe and working? I am not sure if you stress test it or anything like you do on a Windows PC type device..
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Are you referring to this kernel?
I'm wondering because I have never heard about a "Blades 2" kernel.
EDIT: Nevermind, I figured it out. This is what Revolver Parts calls Blades' 10-01-2011 kernel.
Blades uses some aggressive GPU timings in some of his kernels. You may want to try Clemsyn 22 if you want to try and go above 1.2 GHz.
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I have been looking for a couple of days, and I can't seem to find my answer anywhere. Sorry if this question has already been asked. Does the Tiamat Kernel come overclock already, or do you need to use an app like SetCPU?
SetCPU is needed
Thank Brenardo.
I really want to root so i can get the USB host, and SD card. I just didn't want the overclock. I was told that Tiamat was overclock from the get go.
anovinger said:
Thank Brenardo.
I really want to root so i can get the USB host, and SD card. I just didn't want the overclock. I was told that Tiamat was overclock from the get go.
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If you do not run an overclock program, the stock max is still on the CPU.
Sent from my Xoom
Do you know what the set Max is on the tiamat kernel?
anovinger said:
Do you know what the set Max is on the tiamat kernel?
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1ghz
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1ghz
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even without an OC app running my CPU sometimes runs up to 1504mhz. I've tried every kernel since the first tiamat one. I have a Canadian xoom rooted with one click. I'm using tiamat 1.4.1 and the issue isn't fixed. I've read many others experiencing the same issue. I've tried using setcpu and Droid OC to limit it to 1ghz but it still hits 1504. There both uninstalled now but I'm still having spikes. Just my 2 cents not trying to hyjack your thread. But if anyone has any input as to whats happening I'd appreciate it.
Also my battery life is significantly shorter since rooting. From about 9 hours to 4 now.
Any suggestions ?
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even without an OC app running my CPU sometimes runs up to 1504mhz. I've tried every kernel since the first tiamat one. I have a Canadian xoom rooted with one click. I'm using tiamat 1.4.1 and the issue isn't fixed. I've read many others experiencing the same issue. I've tried using setcpu and Droid OC to limit it to 1ghz but it still hits 1504. There both uninstalled now but I'm still having spikes. Just my 2 cents not trying to hyjack your thread. But if anyone has any input as to whats happening I'd appreciate it.
Also my battery life is significantly shorter since rooting. From about 9 hours to 4 now.
Any suggestions ?
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How are you seeing its over with no app? I'm not calling you a liar, just trying to get all the facts. In all test we have done, even with the setcpu oc to 1.5/1.5, we actually see the cpu running at 1 ghz after a wakeup.
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How are you seeing its over with no app? I'm not calling you a liar, just trying to get all the facts. In all test we have done, even with the setcpu oc to 1.5/1.5, we actually see the cpu running at 1 ghz after a wakeup.
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I'm watching the temp+CPU widget to monitor what's happening. Are you suggesting its giving inaccurate readings? Setcpu at 1ghz would still show random spikes to 1504mhz. I don't have any OC tools installed right now but my widget still shows it hitting 1504 especially under load. I was thinking of returning to stock and rooting manually but it not a huge problem just strange. I was hoping the new kernel would fix it but its still happening. Is there anything I can do besides start from scratch?
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I'm watching the temp+CPU widget to monitor what's happening. Are you suggesting its giving inaccurate readings? Setcpu at 1ghz would still show random spikes to 1504mhz. I don't have any OC tools installed right now but my widget still shows it hitting 1504 especially under load. I was thinking of returning to stock and rooting manually but it not a huge problem just strange. I was hoping the new kernel would fix it but its still happening. Is there anything I can do besides start from scratch?
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Yea setcpu is not 100% yet. Does your widget show both cpus? What we were testing was the second CPU. After you xoom goes to sleep, the second CPU is never set again by setcpu (known bug). So lets say you are running 1.0/1.5. After you xoom goes to sleep you will wake up with cpu 0 at a max of 1.5, but cpu 1 will have a max of 1.0. The info i gave earlier was said wrong. I was actually looking at the wrong line, so you may in fact be correct on the 1.5ghz random jump . Gonna stop talking now, as we are hyjacking someone else's thread .
In theory, you should not need overclocking software, as the max is set at 1ghz on both cpus. But as said above by Bandit504, this may NOT be the case .
Thanks bwcorvus and Bandit504 . So I guess to call it is safe, it would be good idea to use SetCPU, or Droid Overclock and have the maximum set to 1 ghz, to keep the proc from hitting the 1.5 ghz speed. I just hate to ruin the hardware with the overclock, and have to drop another $600 for another xoom.
So after being S-OFF and perm rooted, I have found that setCPU is being a turd. While it works when it works, it requires quite a bit of effort to work.
Each time my phone reboots for whatever reason (pitiful attempts at getting adfree to work, ect) setCPU must be uninstalled, then reinstalled, then set back up via command prompt. If this isnt done, it will cause the phone to restart over and over again.
Any ideas as to why this is?
Matt
Because SetCPU doesn't have a profile for the Sensation's processor yet.
Any good alternatives to setCPU then?
Matt
i have the same issue but no fix for OC Daemon, except restoring, flashing and setting the oc to 1.5. if i set to 1.8 it reboots and reboots and reboots and so on.
MT4gUY said:
i have the same issue but no fix for OC Daemon, except restoring, flashing and setting the oc to 1.5. if i set to 1.8 it reboots and reboots and reboots and so on.
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This is never going to be fixed. Your phone can't handle 1.8 ghz, it's the hardware.
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Any good alternatives to setCPU then?
Matt
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If you flash a custom ROM and want overclock, flash Android Revolution HD. It has OC Daemon and is really good!
You can overclock to 1.5ghz and be quite stable. You can also underclock to about 245mhz when asleep so it saves the battery when it's in your pocket However, as MT4gUY said, right now you can't overclock to 1.8ghz.
@Sdobron As I understand it, the EVO 3D has overclock to 1.8ghz and that has the same processor as the Sensation...? Is that overclock stable...?
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This is never going to be fixed. Your phone can't handle 1.8 ghz, it's the hardware.
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This is incorrect. I was overclocked to 1.8 Ghz for the longest time before I decided to go down to 1.6Ghz (what I am at now) for battery reasons. 1.8Ghz was good for getting 3100 Quadrant scores, but that was it.
There must be a way to reliably overclock without a ROM? I dont see the need for a ROM right now. My phone is already fast! I use ADW EX with overclock, and I have bloatware frozen along with Sense frozen. I am perm rooted, but would love to be able to reboot my phone and not have setCPU act a fool.
Matt
So,
We've all got our Xooms, what are you experiences with each kernel, which one do you find the best? (and with what governors?)
Secondly, What are your UV values? Whats the best you've got when trying to undervolt?
Ive just got my Xoom (32gb, wifi, uk) and im just on the brink of experimenting with the undervolting, i searched but couldn't find a relevent topic.
So please, do post values, kernels and your experiences
ah okay, I thought this would be quite an important issue,
I've managed to get the xoom to handle 1.6 undervolting each state by 100mv
I am however having trouble getting both cores to stabilse at 1.6. Using os monitor I can see that only one core sticks, the other goes down to 300 mhz,.
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So,
We've all got our Xooms, what are you experiences with each kernel, which one do you find the best? (and with what governors?)
Secondly, What are your UV values? Whats the best you've got when trying to undervolt?
Ive just got my Xoom (32gb, wifi, uk) and im just on the brink of experimenting with the undervolting, i searched but couldn't find a relevent topic.
So please, do post values, kernels and your experiences
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I haven't fooled around with over/undervolting, but I like the oc gpu version of the Tachi kernel.
Zero problems and very smooth. I am very stable at 1504MGh
okantomi said:
I haven't fooled around with over/undervolting, but I like the oc gpu version of the Tachi kernel.
Zero problems and very smooth. I am very stable at 1504MGh
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what you using for OC?
Setcpu or pimp my cpu or anything else.
Which governor you use?
I had lots of rebooting with setcpu especially after applying voltages.
rohit3192 said:
what you using for OC?
Setcpu or pimp my cpu or anything else.
Which governor you use?
I had lots of rebooting with setcpu especially after applying voltages.
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I use CPU Master for oc and setting profiles. I do have the oc set on boot, because 1504 is my sweetspot and is stable.
Just installed Moray+tachi
Mobo player freezed few times,rest ok.
Edit: Trying "No frills" discarded Set Cpu for now.
rohit3192 said:
Just installed Moray+tachi
Mobo player freezed few times,rest ok.
Edit: Trying "No frills" discarded Set Cpu for now.
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No Frills is good, but I don't know if you can set profiles, which are good to save battery, control overheating, etc...
I try and set my sensation to 1.9 (1.89)ghz on setcpu. Right after i set it up, the phone reboots and the setting is lost. I tried different apps but nothing changes. i have a custom setcpu setting and still nothing happens. It only works when i overclock to something under 1.9. Anyone else having the same problem? Disable perflock isn't working for me. If thats the solution, how to fix it?
Running SENSEaY - XE35 v2.1.0 with Bricked 1.5 kernel.
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I try and set my sensation to 1.9 (1.89)ghz on setcpu. Right after i set it up, the phone reboots and the setting is lost. I tried different apps but nothing changes. i have a custom setcpu setting and still nothing happens. It only works when i overclock to something under 1.9. Anyone else having the same problem? Disable perflock isn't working for me. If thats the solution, how to fix it?
Running SENSEaY - XE35 v2.1.0 with Bricked 1.5 kernel.
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Sounds like you weren't aware that 1.7GHz and higher aren't considered stable freqs, 1.9GHz has a high Voltage which may cause the kernel to panic and issue a reboot. Just stick with a lower freq around the 1.2 stock speed.
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I try and set my sensation to 1.9 (1.89)ghz on setcpu. Right after i set it up, the phone reboots and the setting is lost. I tried different apps but nothing changes. i have a custom setcpu setting and still nothing happens. It only works when i overclock to something under 1.9. Anyone else having the same problem? Disable perflock isn't working for me. If thats the solution, how to fix it?
Running SENSEaY - XE35 v2.1.0 with Bricked 1.5 kernel.
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Any CPU aren't the same. It seem that your CPU can't handle that much clock speed. Speed on 1.9 and 1.782 Ghz are quite the same. (Quadrant might shows couple hundreds higher but not effect any everyday uses.)
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Sounds like you weren't aware that 1.7GHz and higher aren't considered stable freqs, 1.9GHz has a high Voltage which may cause the kernel to panic and issue a reboot. Just stick with a lower freq around the 1.2 stock speed.
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Thanks for the heads up. Where'd you hear that? i dont remember reading about it. Is there a way to make 1.9ghz work?
What benefits will 1.9GHz provide other than wearing down your battery faster?
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Thanks for the heads up. Where'd you hear that? i dont remember reading about it. Is there a way to make 1.9ghz work?
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Just looking at that voltage table and my experiences with that freq from past phones tells me so . Jumping from the low level to such a high one should cause a freeze on any device.
@LooieEng 1.9GHz may help this phone run future Android revisions smoothly, and perhaps Win8 will function on the phone too.
ok so it was running ok with minimal lag now it lags like crazy where you cant even move at times with unexpected closes or pauses in the game. Very frustrating. Running Fp1 Stock
Any help appreciated
Works fine for me in Eclipse 2.0, even with conservative governor. My brother was on stock fp1 and he was lagging out so he made me root his phone and put eclipse on it
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Works fine for me in Eclipse 2.0, even with conservative governor. My brother was on stock fp1 and he was lagging out so he made me root his phone and put eclipse on it
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Yeah thought about placing eclipse 2.0 on the phone although i couldnt get some of the stock apps to migrate with it Backup manager, Feeds & updates, Buddies Now, and the weather widget but, ill try
Whats conservative governor ?
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Whats conservative governor ?
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It makes the CPU frequency go up slower to save battery. Basically in games it reduces performance if it doesn't demand max speed all the time.
I'm running Eclipse 2.0 as well but when I play Temple run o just overclock to 1.2 with smartassv2 governor and there's no lag at all.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA
Interesting i guess i should try Eclipse 2.0 Just going to be hard to get used to not having my stock widgets
If I'm on Eclipse 2.0 with the stock FP1 kernel . What is the safest and most stable way to bump my Charge CPU up to 1.2 ghz ?
- I experienced quite a bit of lag as well while trying to play Temple Run .
The only way to do it on a stock kernel is with Tegrak Overclock from the Market. The free version will overclock. To make it stick on boot, you have to buy the pay version.
I was on FP1 stock and temple run was working fine without any lags. And yesterday I put the Tweaked v2.0 on my phone and now temple run lags a lot. Kinda weird
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I was on FP1 stock and temple run was working fine without any lags. And yesterday I put the Tweaked v2.0 on my phone and now temple run lags a lot. Kinda weird
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Im Running Tweaks 1.4 with PBnJ at 1.2GHz with Smartass V2 and mine lags as well.
I suspect that this may be a memory contention problem. When I play Temple Run with my phone on Tweaked 2.1 with imnuts PBJ 0524, it's horribly laggy - if my Yahoo! Mail and Facebook (official) apps are either sitting in the background constantly hitting the network or trying to reload whenever OOM-killed. If I go to Titanium Backup and freeze those two, Temple Run becomes playable again.
There are a number of fat, pushy apps out there that just won't back off even when your phone is otherwise busy, including the two mentioned above. Try trimming your widgets and temporarily freezing things you don't want to uninstall, and you'll get a better user experience on heavyweight games like Temple Run.
ya I run my charge on tweaked 2.1 UV'd at 800mhz but I use tasker to OC my phone to 1.2 whenever I open a CPU intensive game it takes a second for it to run without lag but then it works with no problems
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ya I run my charge on tweaked 2.1 UV'd at 800mhz but I use tasker to OC my phone to 1.2 whenever I open a CPU intensive game it takes a second for it to run without lag but then it works with no problems
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What does your setup look like to stay UVd (which you can't do in tasker afaik) while not in the game? I've played with some things, but they turned out to be kind of cumbersome.
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What does your setup look like to stay UVd (which you can't do in tasker afaik) while not in the game? I've played with some things, but they turned out to be kind of cumbersome.
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I run:
100mhz -200
200mhz -150
400mhz -125
800mhz -100
1000mhz -75
1200mhz -50
I'm always UV'd at the 800 mark but I think when tasker overclocks me to 1.2ghz it keeps my UV settings but idk.
edit: I use smartass v2 governor
Whenever I would have tasker take over, I would later reopen Voltage Control and all the voltage settings would be reset to their standard values.
I actually just noticed that my tasker isn't actually doing anything lol. I'll set up the task and press the play (test) button and it'll work but then I'll go into an app I've set up and my max is set to 1200 but my phone is maxing at 800 still. I don't think that voltage control and tasker integrate very well and that might be your problem but my UV setting are intact.