So after being S-OFF and perm rooted, I have found that setCPU is being a turd. While it works when it works, it requires quite a bit of effort to work.
Each time my phone reboots for whatever reason (pitiful attempts at getting adfree to work, ect) setCPU must be uninstalled, then reinstalled, then set back up via command prompt. If this isnt done, it will cause the phone to restart over and over again.
Any ideas as to why this is?
Matt
Because SetCPU doesn't have a profile for the Sensation's processor yet.
Any good alternatives to setCPU then?
Matt
i have the same issue but no fix for OC Daemon, except restoring, flashing and setting the oc to 1.5. if i set to 1.8 it reboots and reboots and reboots and so on.
MT4gUY said:
i have the same issue but no fix for OC Daemon, except restoring, flashing and setting the oc to 1.5. if i set to 1.8 it reboots and reboots and reboots and so on.
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This is never going to be fixed. Your phone can't handle 1.8 ghz, it's the hardware.
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Any good alternatives to setCPU then?
Matt
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If you flash a custom ROM and want overclock, flash Android Revolution HD. It has OC Daemon and is really good!
You can overclock to 1.5ghz and be quite stable. You can also underclock to about 245mhz when asleep so it saves the battery when it's in your pocket However, as MT4gUY said, right now you can't overclock to 1.8ghz.
@Sdobron As I understand it, the EVO 3D has overclock to 1.8ghz and that has the same processor as the Sensation...? Is that overclock stable...?
Sdobron said:
This is never going to be fixed. Your phone can't handle 1.8 ghz, it's the hardware.
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This is incorrect. I was overclocked to 1.8 Ghz for the longest time before I decided to go down to 1.6Ghz (what I am at now) for battery reasons. 1.8Ghz was good for getting 3100 Quadrant scores, but that was it.
There must be a way to reliably overclock without a ROM? I dont see the need for a ROM right now. My phone is already fast! I use ADW EX with overclock, and I have bloatware frozen along with Sense frozen. I am perm rooted, but would love to be able to reboot my phone and not have setCPU act a fool.
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I have been looking for a couple of days, and I can't seem to find my answer anywhere. Sorry if this question has already been asked. Does the Tiamat Kernel come overclock already, or do you need to use an app like SetCPU?
SetCPU is needed
Thank Brenardo.
I really want to root so i can get the USB host, and SD card. I just didn't want the overclock. I was told that Tiamat was overclock from the get go.
anovinger said:
Thank Brenardo.
I really want to root so i can get the USB host, and SD card. I just didn't want the overclock. I was told that Tiamat was overclock from the get go.
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If you do not run an overclock program, the stock max is still on the CPU.
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Do you know what the set Max is on the tiamat kernel?
anovinger said:
Do you know what the set Max is on the tiamat kernel?
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1ghz
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bwcorvus said:
1ghz
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even without an OC app running my CPU sometimes runs up to 1504mhz. I've tried every kernel since the first tiamat one. I have a Canadian xoom rooted with one click. I'm using tiamat 1.4.1 and the issue isn't fixed. I've read many others experiencing the same issue. I've tried using setcpu and Droid OC to limit it to 1ghz but it still hits 1504. There both uninstalled now but I'm still having spikes. Just my 2 cents not trying to hyjack your thread. But if anyone has any input as to whats happening I'd appreciate it.
Also my battery life is significantly shorter since rooting. From about 9 hours to 4 now.
Any suggestions ?
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even without an OC app running my CPU sometimes runs up to 1504mhz. I've tried every kernel since the first tiamat one. I have a Canadian xoom rooted with one click. I'm using tiamat 1.4.1 and the issue isn't fixed. I've read many others experiencing the same issue. I've tried using setcpu and Droid OC to limit it to 1ghz but it still hits 1504. There both uninstalled now but I'm still having spikes. Just my 2 cents not trying to hyjack your thread. But if anyone has any input as to whats happening I'd appreciate it.
Also my battery life is significantly shorter since rooting. From about 9 hours to 4 now.
Any suggestions ?
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How are you seeing its over with no app? I'm not calling you a liar, just trying to get all the facts. In all test we have done, even with the setcpu oc to 1.5/1.5, we actually see the cpu running at 1 ghz after a wakeup.
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How are you seeing its over with no app? I'm not calling you a liar, just trying to get all the facts. In all test we have done, even with the setcpu oc to 1.5/1.5, we actually see the cpu running at 1 ghz after a wakeup.
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I'm watching the temp+CPU widget to monitor what's happening. Are you suggesting its giving inaccurate readings? Setcpu at 1ghz would still show random spikes to 1504mhz. I don't have any OC tools installed right now but my widget still shows it hitting 1504 especially under load. I was thinking of returning to stock and rooting manually but it not a huge problem just strange. I was hoping the new kernel would fix it but its still happening. Is there anything I can do besides start from scratch?
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I'm watching the temp+CPU widget to monitor what's happening. Are you suggesting its giving inaccurate readings? Setcpu at 1ghz would still show random spikes to 1504mhz. I don't have any OC tools installed right now but my widget still shows it hitting 1504 especially under load. I was thinking of returning to stock and rooting manually but it not a huge problem just strange. I was hoping the new kernel would fix it but its still happening. Is there anything I can do besides start from scratch?
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Yea setcpu is not 100% yet. Does your widget show both cpus? What we were testing was the second CPU. After you xoom goes to sleep, the second CPU is never set again by setcpu (known bug). So lets say you are running 1.0/1.5. After you xoom goes to sleep you will wake up with cpu 0 at a max of 1.5, but cpu 1 will have a max of 1.0. The info i gave earlier was said wrong. I was actually looking at the wrong line, so you may in fact be correct on the 1.5ghz random jump . Gonna stop talking now, as we are hyjacking someone else's thread .
In theory, you should not need overclocking software, as the max is set at 1ghz on both cpus. But as said above by Bandit504, this may NOT be the case .
Thanks bwcorvus and Bandit504 . So I guess to call it is safe, it would be good idea to use SetCPU, or Droid Overclock and have the maximum set to 1 ghz, to keep the proc from hitting the 1.5 ghz speed. I just hate to ruin the hardware with the overclock, and have to drop another $600 for another xoom.
Ok, sorry if this seems like a stupid question but... I have flashed/tested all of the Tiamat Kernels onto my xoom and it seems that I can only run the 1.4 Ghz Kernel with no random reboots. So I thought that if i download the higher 1.5Ghz or the 1.6Ghz and just under-clock it to 1.4Ghz that should stop it from doing random reboots, but sadly it doesnt and I still get random reboots even with Setcpu Under-clocking it to 1.4Ghz. Now is this typical or am I missing or misunderstanding something? Is there a reason why I cant use the higher Kernels and Under-clock them to 1.4Ghz and get no random reboots? I am only asking because I flashed the Riptide and under-clocked it to 1.4Ghz and it really made my xoom feel much faster and nicer in my hands and would love to keep using the Riptide Kernel.
Thanks in advance,
-Dez
I have the same issues and have been wondering the same thing.
I have similar , with 1.6 with ums
only flashed to get ums , and had a few crash/reboots for the first time since i bought my xoom about a month ago.
what i could do with is a stock speed kernal with all the bells on !
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I have similar , with 1.6 with ums
only flashed to get ums , and had a few crash/reboots for the first time since i bought my xoom about a month ago.
what i could do with is a stock speed kernal with all the bells on !
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I too have noticed this, after reading your post I tried keeping the Kernels but with no OC and left it at 1.0Ghz and it still has random reboots. So is there something in the Higher Kernels that are causing it to be unstable regardless of what Ghz you clock it to?
watch setcpu at times. It doesn't matter what you set the clock at in setcpu it will still go to the max clock the kernel allows. I am not sure if it is a bug with setcpu or if it is just the way the kernel works. If you reboot your Xoom when setcpu is at 1ghz, then go and play with the xoom after reboot for awhile. Go back into setcpu and look under the info tab. You will see that the cpu has indeed been running the higher clocks then 1ghz at times. It doesn't run those higher clocks much but it does. Which is most likely why you are getting lockups or reboots. My Xoom seems to love the 1.5ghz kernel but hates the 1.6ghz one.
Funny I was on the same boat. Started out with 1.6...reboots. went to 1.4 no problems. Tried riptide. Got app force closes. Now on 1.5...stable once again. The thing is im not even using OC on any of them
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Funny I was on the same boat. Started out with 1.6...reboots. went to 1.4 no problems. Tried riptide. Got app force closes. Now on 1.5...stable once again. The thing is im not even using OC on any of them
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The oc is in the kernal i think , i dont have setcpu installed but cpu still at times peaks at the max 1.504 ghz ac ording to
"Temp+cpu"
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Morning all,
I am running the Hammerhead ROM with the OC GPU kernel. I have been able to run at 1.6 GHZ with no issues. When I push it to 1.7 GHZ I get alot of browser closes, hangs, and reboots.
Has anyone been able to run reliably at 1.7 GHZ with the OC GPU kernel, and if so are you doing anything special with voltages to get this to run reliably?
Thanks,
Steve
stevefxp said:
Morning all,
I am running the Hammerhead ROM with the OC GPU kernel. I have been able to run at 1.6 GHZ with no issues. When I push it to 1.7 GHZ I get alot of browser closes, hangs, and reboots.
Has anyone been able to run reliably at 1.7 GHZ with the OC GPU kernel, and if so are you doing anything special with voltages to get this to run reliably?
Thanks,
Steve
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Each device and each Tegra chip are slightly different..some will run that fast without any problem, some can do it in bursts, while others will crash before you close SetCPU. It often has very little to do with settings.
I had the same issue as you. At 1.6, it has never rebooted, but at 1.7 it very consistently reboots or forces a close.
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I had the same issue as you. At 1.6, it has never rebooted, but at 1.7 it very consistently reboots or forces a close.
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I am going to fool around with voltages and see if I can get 1.7 Ghz to stabilize.
same here.. i had no reboots but some force closes when i really push the device with 1.7 ghz ( tiamat kernel&3.2) ... if depends on the load of the cpu i guess.. when i run quadrant test continuously it works without a problem even a non-stop half hour.. but when i open 15+ pages in theb browser it freezes and sometimes forse closes.. i assume the voltage management is not stable or enough for 1.7 ghz .. when its 1.6 its perfect.. ( to be honets none of this gpu and cpu overclocks are really necessary and effecting my everyday usage, its already a very fast and good device)
Hi guys!
Which app are you using to control the clock?
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Hi guys!
Which app are you using to control the clock?
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SetCPU is the best for the Xoom, imho.
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Sorry man. It's been said before about the tegra and other procs, it's all luck of the draw. I am one of the lucky ones who can get stable at 1.7ghz but it won't work for everyone. I wish there was an easy fix that would make this work for you.
I loaded the Blades 2 kernel on my TF along side the Revolver ROM.
How can I tell if the OC is safe and working? I am not sure if you stress test it or anything like you do on a Windows PC type device..
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I loaded the Blades 2 kernel on my TF along side the Revolver ROM.
How can I tell if the OC is safe and working? I am not sure if you stress test it or anything like you do on a Windows PC type device..
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I've found that, in overclocking several Android devices, more often than not if you have an unstable OC, the device will either fail to boot, or will crash constantly. If it's not doing that, you're likely fine.
Um, you're not OCed yet. You need to install setcpu or cpu master and crank up the clock. Clemsyn or Blades gives you the option to OC. It doesn't just OC for you.
lol, and learn from my mistake: when overclocking, don't check the option of "set on boot" untill you have tried overclocking at the Ghz level that you want to use. Believe me, you don't want a bootloop that can only be solved by flashing or restoring from a backup.
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I loaded the Blades 2 kernel on my TF along side the Revolver ROM.
How can I tell if the OC is safe and working? I am not sure if you stress test it or anything like you do on a Windows PC type device..
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I have done extensive overclocking and undervolting.
Set your OC and voltage settings. Then use setcpu or pimpmycpu min and max to your highest OC MHz.
Then play 1 round of Dungon Defenders. If you make it through that then open the camera.
Repeat this on every MHz from top to bottom. If you are unstable at a frequency then increase your voltage slightly (like 10 - 20 mV) and try again.
If you are stable and want to get a little bit better battery do the same thing but lower the mV until dungeon defenders crashes.
Then start to increase it until you are stable.
If your tablet reboots your way low on mV
If it freezes your low on mV
If the widgets act funny, and/ or disapear every once in awhile your in the right ball park
If everything works except your camera freezes you are very close
Some kernels have more aggressive GPU timings which you can't really change so you might want to try another's kernel if you can't get stable.
Well, it seems that I can't go higher than the 1.2 GHZ. If I go any higher, I get some weird freezes and reboots.
Now I saw the post above but I dont see where I can adjust the different voltages, etc..Maybe I am not using the right program?
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Well, it seems that I can't go higher than the 1.2 GHZ. If I go any higher, I get some weird freezes and reboots.
Now I saw the post above but I dont see where I can adjust the different voltages, etc..Maybe I am not using the right program?
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What program are you using? Try SetCpu or Pimpmycpu
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What program are you using? Try SetCpu or Pimpmycpu
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SetCPU is what I loaded
acdcking12345 said:
I loaded the Blades 2 kernel on my TF along side the Revolver ROM.
How can I tell if the OC is safe and working? I am not sure if you stress test it or anything like you do on a Windows PC type device..
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Are you referring to this kernel?
I'm wondering because I have never heard about a "Blades 2" kernel.
EDIT: Nevermind, I figured it out. This is what Revolver Parts calls Blades' 10-01-2011 kernel.
Blades uses some aggressive GPU timings in some of his kernels. You may want to try Clemsyn 22 if you want to try and go above 1.2 GHz.
I try and set my sensation to 1.9 (1.89)ghz on setcpu. Right after i set it up, the phone reboots and the setting is lost. I tried different apps but nothing changes. i have a custom setcpu setting and still nothing happens. It only works when i overclock to something under 1.9. Anyone else having the same problem? Disable perflock isn't working for me. If thats the solution, how to fix it?
Running SENSEaY - XE35 v2.1.0 with Bricked 1.5 kernel.
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I try and set my sensation to 1.9 (1.89)ghz on setcpu. Right after i set it up, the phone reboots and the setting is lost. I tried different apps but nothing changes. i have a custom setcpu setting and still nothing happens. It only works when i overclock to something under 1.9. Anyone else having the same problem? Disable perflock isn't working for me. If thats the solution, how to fix it?
Running SENSEaY - XE35 v2.1.0 with Bricked 1.5 kernel.
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Sounds like you weren't aware that 1.7GHz and higher aren't considered stable freqs, 1.9GHz has a high Voltage which may cause the kernel to panic and issue a reboot. Just stick with a lower freq around the 1.2 stock speed.
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I try and set my sensation to 1.9 (1.89)ghz on setcpu. Right after i set it up, the phone reboots and the setting is lost. I tried different apps but nothing changes. i have a custom setcpu setting and still nothing happens. It only works when i overclock to something under 1.9. Anyone else having the same problem? Disable perflock isn't working for me. If thats the solution, how to fix it?
Running SENSEaY - XE35 v2.1.0 with Bricked 1.5 kernel.
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Any CPU aren't the same. It seem that your CPU can't handle that much clock speed. Speed on 1.9 and 1.782 Ghz are quite the same. (Quadrant might shows couple hundreds higher but not effect any everyday uses.)
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Sounds like you weren't aware that 1.7GHz and higher aren't considered stable freqs, 1.9GHz has a high Voltage which may cause the kernel to panic and issue a reboot. Just stick with a lower freq around the 1.2 stock speed.
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Thanks for the heads up. Where'd you hear that? i dont remember reading about it. Is there a way to make 1.9ghz work?
What benefits will 1.9GHz provide other than wearing down your battery faster?
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Thanks for the heads up. Where'd you hear that? i dont remember reading about it. Is there a way to make 1.9ghz work?
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Just looking at that voltage table and my experiences with that freq from past phones tells me so . Jumping from the low level to such a high one should cause a freeze on any device.
@LooieEng 1.9GHz may help this phone run future Android revisions smoothly, and perhaps Win8 will function on the phone too.