Sorry for posting a new thread, I searched for about an hour, to no true avail. So, I haven't unlocked my Nexus S 4G yet, but I have made a lot of changes to it. A lot of changes I would rather not lose. So, basically I want to backup, than unlock. Big problem though is that MyBackup needs pro version to store online, and titanium backup needs root (and I'm not unlocked yet)! So basically I was wondering if this process would work:
-Root (no flash to SU)
-Backup using titanium backup
-Flash to SU
-Restore
tl;dr:
1.) Can you root without flashing to SU
2.) If you don't flash to SU, but still have root, can Titanium backup obtain root access?
3.)What are the commands to manually root/where do you enter them?
4.)(A stupid question I know, but might as well ask it in this thread than another one) How do you restore using titanium backup after unlocking/do you need to apply any changes to apps you had installed, or does it just return them all back to their state pre-unlock?
Tethyrian said:
Sorry for posting a new thread, I searched for about an hour, to no true avail. So, I haven't unlocked my Nexus S 4G yet, but I have made a lot of changes to it. A lot of changes I would rather not lose. So, basically I want to backup, than unlock. Big problem though is that MyBackup needs pro version to store online, and titanium backup needs root (and I'm not unlocked yet)! So basically I was wondering if this process would work:
-Root (no flash to SU)
-Backup using titanium backup
-Flash to SU
-Restore
tl;dr:
1.) Can you root without flashing to SU
2.) If you don't flash to SU, but still have root, can Titanium backup obtain root access?
3.)What are the commands to manually root/where do you enter them?
4.)(A stupid question I know, but might as well ask it in this thread than another one) How do you restore using titanium backup after unlocking/do you need to apply any changes to apps you had installed, or does it just return them all back to their state pre-unlock?
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The su binary provides root access. no access to su = no root access.
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krohnjw said:
The su binary provides root access. no access to su = no root access.
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So basically my options include buying MyBackup or losing everything?
You can root with out unlocking your bootloader. Then back up.
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mikel719 said:
You can root with out unlocking your bootloader. Then back up.
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Never realized you could do that, I'm going to try it soon, and post with updates. Thank you.
Big problem I'm running into. When I am in the console, directed at my tools folder and have the phone plugged in and on the boot loader. I type 'fastboot boot recovery.img' and it says that it is not a recognized command. Any help is appreciated.
Tethyrian said:
Big problem I'm running into. When I am in the console, directed at my tools folder and have the phone plugged in and on the boot loader. I type 'fastboot boot recovery.img' and it says that it is not a recognized command. Any help is appreciated.
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That hasn't worked since 2.3.2. It was never intended to work. You have to have an unlocked boot loader to use fastboot boot.
krohnjw said:
That hasn't worked since 2.3.2. It was never intended to work. You have to have an unlocked boot loader to use fastboot boot.
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So.. Is there a way to root without unlocking on 2.3.7? Or better yet backup without rooting?
Tethyrian said:
So.. Is there a way to root without unlocking on 2.3.7? Or better yet backup without rooting?
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You can try some of the "Gingerbreak" methods out there. They all rely on exploits to gain elevated privileges though so I would guess it's unlikely they will work. Outside of that No. You could try to purchase Mybackup Pro and restore or just forget about it.
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OK. So, this is my first time unlocking the rooting. I used the sdk/adb/fastboot method to unlock the bootloader, which worked. I didn't realize this wasn't root access, so I found another set of files that I used to install clockwork mod recovery and flashed superuser from sd. Rebooted and, just like it's supposed to, Superuser was there in my app tray. But when I go to use root apps, the superuser prompt doesn't come up and they aren't granted root access. Is there something different I need to do being on 4.0.4? This is my first time doing it ever, please be gentle Please help me get root access!
Also was just thinking could there be an issue with adb? Is it possible to use fastboot and not have adb work? When I unlocked the bootloader I don't remember if I had USB debugging on or not. Is there a way to check to see if adb did its thing?
I have like no signal where I'm located, so pulling up links is kinda tough , but I should be able to help a little. Make sure you have the latest version of the superuser zip file to flash via recovery. Also, there is a file that keeps CWM there instead of the stock 4.0.4 recovery replacing it. I think there is an app called root checker or something on the Play Store which should check it.
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Nexus311 said:
OK. So, this is my first time unlocking the rooting. I used the sdk/adb/fastboot method to unlock the bootloader, which worked. I didn't realize this wasn't root access, so I found another set of files that I used to install clockwork mod recovery and flashed superuser from sd. Rebooted and, just like it's supposed to, Superuser was there in my app tray. But when I go to use root apps, the superuser prompt doesn't come up and they aren't granted root access. Is there something different I need to do being on 4.0.4? This is my first time doing it ever, please be gentle Please help me get root access!
Also was just thinking could there be an issue with adb? Is it possible to use fastboot and not have adb work? When I unlocked the bootloader I don't remember if I had USB debugging on or not. Is there a way to check to see if adb did its thing?
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If you flash a custom rom it will just stick but if you stay on stock...
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27027436&postcount=8
there is also a zip you can use
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...13&postcount=2
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-root/how-to-root-nexus-s-or-nexus-s-4g-on-ics-or-gingerbread/
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-install-nexus-s-windows-usb-drivers/
Hi,
I have a Desire S with hboot 2.00.002 unrooted. I was hoping to perform a full backup of all apps (system included) before I attempt to downgrade my hboot to root and s-off.
Is it possible to temproot using tacoroot and then run Titanium to perform a full backup? I have tried, however each time I run Titanium it says that the phone is not rooted.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Sam
snakeyes30 said:
Hi,
I have a Desire S with hboot 2.00.002 unrooted. I was hoping to perform a full backup of all apps (system included) before I attempt to downgrade my hboot to root and s-off.
Is it possible to temproot using tacoroot and then run Titanium to perform a full backup? I have tried, however each time I run Titanium it says that the phone is not rooted.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Sam
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you tried it before? well, maybe it wont work. just full root your DS
Thanks for the reply.
From what I understand I cant full root without downgrading my hboot version from 2.00.002 to .98, and in order to downgrade I will need to flash RUU which will cause me to lose my data. In order to prevent me from losing my data, I wanted to backup before attempting a full root.
Please correct me if you do not agree with the above.
Cheers,
Sam
You can't run Titanium under shell temp-root, because Titanium doesn't run in the shell. You need "real" temp-root, something that will install Superuser app and su binary in /system and set correct permissions - even if both will be gone upon reboot. If you can't do it manually - you can probably achieve by SuperOneClick.
Jack_R1 said:
You can't run Titanium under shell temp-root, because Titanium doesn't run in the shell. You need "real" temp-root, something that will install Superuser app and su binary in /system and set correct permissions - even if both will be gone upon reboot. If you can't do it manually - you can probably achieve by SuperOneClick.
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Thanks for the response.
I tried using SuperOneClick and it didnt work. Looks like I need to unlock my bootloader first and I dont think I can do that without wiping my data.
Any other ideas?
Cheers,
S
If you could actually achieve temp-root by any method - you could do it manually. Nothing complicated.
You could try to use ZergRush. Just go over the available rooting tools known to work on Gingerbread, it'll save you the time to wait for responses.
You can use ADB to back things up.
See this thread for a nice tool for doing it:
Gigadroid said:
[TOOL]Ultimate Backup Tool - Full backup without root
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snakeyes30 said:
Hi,
I have a Desire S with hboot 2.00.002 unrooted. I was hoping to perform a full backup of all apps (system included) before I attempt to downgrade my hboot to root and s-off.
Is it possible to temproot using tacoroot and then run Titanium to perform a full backup? I have tried, however each time I run Titanium it says that the phone is not rooted.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Sam
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Hi Sam,
It may be too late for you if you've already downgraded your hboot, but it could be useful for others. It is indeed possible to perform a full backup with only a temproot. I tried to explain in detail how here.
Simply said, one of the directories where titanium backup looks for the su binary is /data/bin. As this directory is not write protected with a S-ON hboot, you can install the su binary there once temprooted. The trick is to remount /data without the nosuid option in order to be able to become root when executing /data/bin/su. It appears that zergRush remounts /data without the nosuid option. For other exploits, it may be necessary to remount it yourself once the root access is granted.
yaonos said:
Hi Sam,
It may be too late for you if you've already downgraded your hboot, but it could be useful for others. It is indeed possible to perform a full backup with only a temproot. I tried to explain in detail how here.
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You're link is not working m8. Points to http://http://
BillGoss said:
You can use ADB to back things up.
See this thread for a nice tool for doing it:
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Yes, this is really working, since new version has been released...
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Marcoevich said:
You're link is not working m8. Points to http://http://
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That's strange. The link works for me. Anyway here it is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31426908
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I rooted my Nexus 5 yesterday (4.4.2) using CF-Auto-Root. RootChecker says I have root but I really can't do anything with it. Titanium Backup is constantly on "Asking for root rights..." even though I grant them. File Explorers cannot deleted APKs in /system/apps. ClockSync can't change the system time and sync it to NTP. I tried rebooting the device to no avail. Please help me! :crying:
UPDATE: Root checker basic now saying "Please wait for Root Check to complete. System appears to be running very slow".
Open superuser and update the binaries
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fun, clueless people using root toolkits thinking it makes things easier but ends up taking longer. its easier to not use a root toolkit with a nexus, as its not needed. to root any nexus device..
1. in fastboot, fastboot oem unlock. this unlocks the bootloader.
2. flash a custom recovery via fastboot.
3. flash the su binaries(latest supersu) in your new recovery.
4. reboot and profit, thats all.
simms22 said:
fun, clueless people using root toolkits thinking it makes things easier but ends up taking longer. its easier to not use a root toolkit with a nexus, as its not needed. to root any nexus device..
1. in fastboot, fastboot oem unlock. this unlocks the bootloader.
2. flash a custom recovery via fastboot.
3. flash the su binaries(latest supersu) in your new recovery.
4. reboot and profit, thats all.
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No need to be condescending, bud. For my Nexus 4, I used fastboot to unlock the bootloader and install CWM then install su. Thought I'd join the CF-Auto-Root bandwagon for N5 and the root was working for some time before it started acting up.
Ben36 said:
Open superuser and update the binaries
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How do I do that from within the app? Do I choose the option to do it via the custom recovery or the "normal" method?
OK, I cleaned up SuperSU/uninstalled it, rebooted, reinstalled SuperSu from the market, updated the binaries "normally", rebooted and now all is well. Thanks!
boeder9 said:
No need to be condescending, bud. For my Nexus 4, I used fastboot to unlock the bootloader and install CWM then install su. Thought I'd join the CF-Auto-Root bandwagon for N5 and the root was working for some time before it started acting up.
How do I do that from within the app? Do I choose the option to do it via the custom recovery or the "normal" method?
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normal method.
boeder9 said:
OK, I cleaned up SuperSU/uninstalled it, rebooted, reinstalled SuperSu from the market, updated the binaries "normally", rebooted and now all is well. Thanks!
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Good good! Only just seen this, glad you figured it!
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Lets be nice, or I will start passing out gifts on Christmas Eve.....Thanks.
Hi I want to unlock the bootloader and root my phone, but before I am doing this I want to make a backup(for the case that i need to take the warranty).Its called Nandroid Backup. How can I do this without root access and so on?
CyBeR54 said:
Hi I want to unlock the bootloader and root my phone, but before I am doing this I want to make a backup(for the case that i need to take the warranty).Its called Nandroid Backup. How can I do this without root access and so on?
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unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery. it might be possible to make a backup without root, and without unlocking the bootloader with adb(bit not sure).
What Simms said.
Just unlock, flash twrp or whatever...and nandroid.
Then you're covered. It takes 10 minutes to flash stock firmware if you're worried about ota's.
There's no better way to get a complete backup.
Wait, if you unlock the bootloader you'll wipe the device. Try helium backup before you unlock.
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jd1639 said:
Wait, if you unlock the bootloader you'll wipe the device. Try helium backup before you unlock.
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Lol. Great point!
I just assumed he wanted a fresh backup of stock. But yeah.....forgot to mention unlocking wipes the SD.
jd1639 said:
Wait, if you unlock the bootloader you'll wipe the device. Try helium backup before you unlock.
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True, however OP wants a backup for warranty purposes which leads me to thinking he wants a system dump.
However, if that's the case it's pointless as it would be rooted. Also all the factory images are officially available from google so it isn't a concern.
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CyBeR54 said:
Hi I want to unlock the bootloader and root my phone, but before I am doing this I want to make a backup(for the case that i need to take the warranty).Its called Nandroid Backup. How can I do this without root access and so on?
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You don't need to do that with a Nexus. Google puts out factory images if you ever need to go back to stock.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#hammerhead
Link to the aforementioned factory images.
CyBeR54 said:
Hi I want to unlock the bootloader and root my phone, but before I am doing this I want to make a backup(for the case that i need to take the warranty).Its called Nandroid Backup. How can I do this without root access and so on?
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as mentioned before, you must flash a custom recovery for a "nandroid backup".
yes, you can backup apps and their data and sdcard with adb commands, no need for rooting or unlocking bootloader...
follow this.
Thank you guys your comments helped me much :good: :laugh:
So I have already installed TWRP, and want to install a ROM. My question is, should i root prior to flashing a new ROM in order to run Ti Backup? If so, what root method should I use?
TIA
treams said:
So I have already installed TWRP, and want to install a ROM. My question is, should i root prior to flashing a new ROM in order to run Ti Backup? If so, what root method should I use?
TIA
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You Magisk.
ok so i already loaded magisk 13 on my external sd and when i try to install from zip in twrp it fails. something new to dig into i guess.
The custom ROMS you install will be rooted already. Doesn't matter if you root before install of custom ROM.
treams said:
So I have already installed TWRP, and want to install a ROM. My question is, should i root prior to flashing a new ROM in order to run Ti Backup? If so, what root method should I use?
TIA
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You rooted it when you installed twrp. Installing supersu or magisk gives YOU a way to interact with root.
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To ROOT or not to ROOT
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that's not even a question, it's a birth right of the phone,
you are losing out a lot if you don't root your phone.
just Titanium Backup alone is more than enough reason to root a phone.
being able to edit build.prop is another great reason
being able to install adaway is like a must
being able to... customize your phone and do anything you want to it is priceless.
If you've rooted, then you've unlocked the bootloader, so Android Pay won't work unless you use Magisk anyway. Titanium Backup is great, and I use it, but the bottom line is that once you've unlocked the bootloader you basically *have* to root to recover full functionality of the device for those apps that refuse to run otherwise.
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If you've rooted, then you've unlocked the bootloader, so Android Pay won't work unless you use Magisk anyway. Titanium Backup is great, and I use it, but the bottom line is that once you've unlocked the bootloader you basically *have* to root to recover full functionality of the device for those apps that refuse to run otherwise.
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Lol, never really thought of it, but yes, you have to make your device a little more unsecured in order to use secure apps. Kind of a catch 22. Gotta love it.
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Lol, never really thought of it, but yes, you have to make your device a little more unsecured in order to use secure apps. Kind of a catch 22. Gotta love it.
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For sure, especially coming from a company whose motto is "Don't be evil."
hgoldner said:
once you've unlocked the bootloader you basically *have* to root to recover full functionality of the device for those apps that refuse to run otherwise.
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You can run a custom kernel that masks unlocked bootloader status without rooting.