[Q] I have root but can't do anything with it!! - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I rooted my Nexus 5 yesterday (4.4.2) using CF-Auto-Root. RootChecker says I have root but I really can't do anything with it. Titanium Backup is constantly on "Asking for root rights..." even though I grant them. File Explorers cannot deleted APKs in /system/apps. ClockSync can't change the system time and sync it to NTP. I tried rebooting the device to no avail. Please help me! :crying:
UPDATE: Root checker basic now saying "Please wait for Root Check to complete. System appears to be running very slow".

Open superuser and update the binaries
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fun, clueless people using root toolkits thinking it makes things easier but ends up taking longer. its easier to not use a root toolkit with a nexus, as its not needed. to root any nexus device..
1. in fastboot, fastboot oem unlock. this unlocks the bootloader.
2. flash a custom recovery via fastboot.
3. flash the su binaries(latest supersu) in your new recovery.
4. reboot and profit, thats all.

simms22 said:
fun, clueless people using root toolkits thinking it makes things easier but ends up taking longer. its easier to not use a root toolkit with a nexus, as its not needed. to root any nexus device..
1. in fastboot, fastboot oem unlock. this unlocks the bootloader.
2. flash a custom recovery via fastboot.
3. flash the su binaries(latest supersu) in your new recovery.
4. reboot and profit, thats all.
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No need to be condescending, bud. For my Nexus 4, I used fastboot to unlock the bootloader and install CWM then install su. Thought I'd join the CF-Auto-Root bandwagon for N5 and the root was working for some time before it started acting up.
Ben36 said:
Open superuser and update the binaries
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How do I do that from within the app? Do I choose the option to do it via the custom recovery or the "normal" method?

OK, I cleaned up SuperSU/uninstalled it, rebooted, reinstalled SuperSu from the market, updated the binaries "normally", rebooted and now all is well. Thanks!

boeder9 said:
No need to be condescending, bud. For my Nexus 4, I used fastboot to unlock the bootloader and install CWM then install su. Thought I'd join the CF-Auto-Root bandwagon for N5 and the root was working for some time before it started acting up.
How do I do that from within the app? Do I choose the option to do it via the custom recovery or the "normal" method?
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normal method.

boeder9 said:
OK, I cleaned up SuperSU/uninstalled it, rebooted, reinstalled SuperSu from the market, updated the binaries "normally", rebooted and now all is well. Thanks!
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Good good! Only just seen this, glad you figured it!
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Lets be nice, or I will start passing out gifts on Christmas Eve.....Thanks.

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[ROOT] Superboot - Nexus 7 WiFi / 3G root solution

Introducing.... Superboot!
Superboot is a boot.img that when booted, will root your device the first time you boot (installing su and the superuser APK). No need to flash any partitions, no need to mess around with ADB, no messing with the contents of your data partition, no overwriting the shipped ROM on your device, just boot the boot image using the instructions below and you're done!
APPLY THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Superboot r4 - DOWNLOAD - MD5: f53825a2df09277f899b6738b3a059d5
How to use Superboot - Windows, Linux and OSX
- Download the Superboot zip file above and extract to a directory
- Put your device in bootloader mode - Turn off the phone then turn on with the 'volume up' and 'volume down' buttons both pressed to enter the bootloader (as pictured below)
- WINDOWS - double click 'superboot-windows.bat'
- MAC - Open a terminal window to the directory containing the files, and type 'chmod +x superboot-mac.sh' followed by './superboot-mac.sh'
- LINUX - Open a terminal window to the directory containing the files, and type 'chmod +x superboot-linux.sh' followed by './superboot-linux.sh'
Note: If you are using a retail device, you may need to unlock the bootloader first, using './fastboot-windows oem unlock' (or the appropriate version for your machine, included in this zip). Note that the OEM unlock sequence wipes your device, so consider doing an 'adb backup' beforehand if required!
Enjoy!
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Awesome!!!!! Can't wait for my nexus 7 :thumbup::beer:
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glad to see u here Paul. any plans on a cwm or are you using the one available in the other root thread? I see u porting superboot everywhere, awesome!
I'll probably just use the CWM already made, unless there's a good reason to make a new one?
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paulobrien said:
I'll probably just use the CWM already made, unless there's a good reason to make a new one?
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I just wasn't sure who even made the other n I prefer using stuff by well known devs that's all. when I get mine I'll try porting our cannibal touch recovery from the kfire with sblood86 n drew.
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This is outstanding news. Im ready for my nexus 7 to hit my door. Believe it or not this will be my first nexus device and I cant wait. Thanks paul o brian :thumbup::beer:
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Download Counter
Does SuperBoot change the download counter from 0 to "Custom Downloads 1"?
Glenn
weltwon said:
Does SuperBoot change the download counter from 0 to "Custom Downloads 1"?
Glenn
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There is no custom download counter on the N7 is there?
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So does this unlock the bootloader?
Bilge656 said:
So does this unlock the bootloader?
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paulobrien said:
Note: You need to unlock the bootloader in order to use this Superboot. Note that the OEM unlock sequence wipes your device.
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Reading carefully before flashing helps reduce frustration. (old chinese proverb)
paulobrien said:
I'll probably just use the CWM already made, unless there's a good reason to make a new one?
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Twrp is a good enough reason
Makes flashing Roms on my prime effortless.
I need a hand. Can't seem to get the USB drivers to work. I keep getting device not found
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tried this 3 times... no joy.. no root. the ota jb update was applied before i did this..............would that screw it up??
patterone said:
tried this 3 times... no joy.. no root. the ota jb update was applied before i did this..............would that screw it up??
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No...
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patterone said:
tried this 3 times... no joy.. no root. the ota jb update was applied before i did this..............would that screw it up??
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See if you have any luck with wugfresh that's how I got rooted
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I was having trouble with the other two methods once inside CWM (something to do with the Windows driver), but this worked flawlessly. I can live without CWM for now.
Mogster said:
I was having trouble with the other two methods once inside CWM (something to do with the Windows driver), but this worked flawlessly. I can live without CWM for now.
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Awesome, enjoy!
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I've got a question I hope won't bother you to answer, Paul.
My goal with my Nexus 7 when it arrives is to be able to load up Titanium Backup Pro and restore some of my Games (App+Data). I' d like to know if I understand the process right to get to that point and still be able to receive OTA updates.
The first thing I should do when I turn on my device is boot into the bootloader and oem fastboot unlock.
Next, I should follow your instructions to chmod and install the superboot package.
When my device reboots after this, should I be able to update to 4.1.1 and retain root so I can install TBpro?
Brigaid said:
I've got a question I hope won't bother you to answer, Paul.
My goal with my Nexus 7 when it arrives is to be able to load up Titanium Backup Pro and restore some of my Games (App+Data). I' d like to know if I understand the process right to get to that point and still be able to receive OTA updates.
The first thing I should do when I turn on my device is boot into the bootloader and oem fastboot unlock.
Next, I should follow your instructions to chmod and install the superboot package.
When my device reboots after this, should I be able to update to 4.1.1 and retain root so I can install TBpro?
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Upgrade first then unlock and root 4.1.1
Worked for me
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
Thanks, I'm happy to hear it works.

[Q] Rooting on a Mac

Hey,
I just did the 2.20 root method posted about a week ago, and I got to the white screen without a problem. I did the htc-dev stuff, and that worked too. I pressed Yes and unlocked my bootloader (or so I thought). I flashed TWRP recovery. However, I couldn't do anything else. My phone runs normally, but I checked and it is not rooted. I realize that the new 2.20 method is a temporary root, and I checked in its thread, and was pointed to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952426. That isn't for Mac, and I wasn't able to find any way to root a 2.20 HOX, install SU, install a ROM, etc.
I installed a rom and all that on my old phone, a Motorola Atrix, without too many problems, so I'm not completely illiterate. Any help on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!
ilovesports said:
Hey,
I just did the 2.20 root method posted about a week ago, and I got to the white screen without a problem. I did the htc-dev stuff, and that worked too. I pressed Yes and unlocked my bootloader (or so I thought). I flashed TWRP recovery. However, I couldn't do anything else. My phone runs normally, but I checked and it is not rooted. I realize that the new 2.20 method is a temporary root, and I checked in its thread, and was pointed to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952426. That isn't for Mac, and I wasn't able to find any way to root a 2.20 HOX, install SU, install a ROM, etc.
I installed a rom and all that on my old phone, a Motorola Atrix, without too many problems, so I'm not completely illiterate. Any help on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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ok. first thing 1st: Did you ever install SU after flashing the recovery (twrp) ?
Crappyvate said:
ok. first thing 1st: Did you ever install SU after flashing the recovery (twrp) ?
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no, because i don't know how to do it. should i flash it using fastboot (while the phone is in white screen)? if so, what file do I flash? I got a SU zip, but I'm not sure what to do with it. But I can confirm that I've installed twrp correctly, because I can go to twrp from the white screen by using the volume up/volume down buttons and the power button and going to Recovery.
Thanks for your help
ilovesports said:
no, because i don't know how to do it. should i flash it using fastboot (while the phone is in white screen)? if so, what file do I flash? I got a SU zip, but I'm not sure what to do with it. But I can confirm that I've installed twrp correctly, because I can go to twrp from the white screen by using the volume up/volume down buttons and the power button and going to Recovery.
Thanks for your help
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reboot in recovery/twrp. install your su.zip (don't know where you got your su.zip and what it contains whether it has both the su binaries and Superuser apk ). Reboot. if you don't have Superuser apk download it from the market (chainfire version). Voila.
Crappyvate said:
reboot in recovery/twrp. install your su.zip (don't know where you got your su.zip and what it contains whether it has both the su binaries and Superuser apk ). Reboot. if you don't have Superuser apk download it from the market (chainfire version). Voila.
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Okay, a couple more questions. Where should I get the su zip? I googled it and found a directory of a bunch of different versions of SU, but it hadnt been updated since like July. Also, what command do I use to install the su.zip?
./fastboot.OSX flash recovery su.zip doesn't work. I'm just now realizing that I should download it to phone memory and install in recovery from there.
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ilovesports said:
Okay, a couple more questions. Where should I get the su zip? I googled it and found a directory of a bunch of different versions of SU, but it hadnt been updated since like July. Also, what command do I use to install the su.zip?
./fastboot.OSX flash recovery su.zip doesn't work. I'm just now realizing that I should download it to phone memory and install in recovery from there.
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You flash the su.zip from inside twrp
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/su-bin-3.1.1-arm-signed.zip
ilovesports said:
Okay, a couple more questions. Where should I get the su zip? I googled it and found a directory of a bunch of different versions of SU, but it hadnt been updated since like July. Also, what command do I use to install the su.zip?
./fastboot.OSX flash recovery su.zip doesn't work. I'm just now realizing that I should download it to phone memory and install in recovery from there.
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1. you told me you had an su.zip !! anyway: http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/su-bin-3.1.1-arm-signed.zip
2. I said reboot in twrp/recovery (do not flash su.zip in fastboot) and hit the install menu, select the su.zip and swipe to flash
3. go back to main menu and hit reboot and then system
4. download SuperSu.apk from chainfire in the Market
5. open it, it'll probably ask you if you want to update the binaries, go ahead and do so.
You should be good to go.
Crappyvate said:
1. you told me you had an su.zip !! anyway:
2. I said reboot in twrp/recovery (do not flash su.zip in fastboot) and hit the install menu, select the su.zip and swipe to flash
3. go back to main menu and hit reboot and then system
4. download SuperSu.apk from chainfire in the Market
5. open it, it'll probably ask you if you want to update the binaries, go ahead and do so.
You should be good to go.
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Yeah, I had it, but I wasn't sure if I had the right one. I did and its all straight now. I was able to install su via twrp and everything worked. I now have root access. One last question (and I realize I've asked a lot of you guys, and I do really appreciate all your help), do I need to take any special steps or precautions when installing custom roms? On my atrix I just saved them to memory and then installed via cwm
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ilovesports said:
Yeah, I had it, but I wasn't sure if I had the right one. I did and its all straight now. I was able to install su via twrp and everything worked. I now have root access. One last question (and I realize I've asked a lot of you guys, and I do really appreciate all your help), do I need to take any special steps or precautions when installing custom roms? On my atrix I just saved them to memory and then installed via cwm
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Yes. dont fu**ing flash icecoldjelly.. or any international ROM
and always ALWAYS flash the boot.img from the rom you want to flash, then flash the rom
ilovesports said:
Yeah, I had it, but I wasn't sure if I had the right one. I did and its all straight now. I was able to install su via twrp and everything worked. I now have root access. One last question (and I realize I've asked a lot of you guys, and I do really appreciate all your help), do I need to take any special steps or precautions when installing custom roms? On my atrix I just saved them to memory and then installed via cwm
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there is even an app for that now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963896
Crappyvate said:
there is even an app for that now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963896
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Thanks, I used that. I installed a ROM. It took a long time (especially in splash screen/boot animation) so i thought i bricked my phone. i didn't. it works great. thanks!
ilovesports said:
Thanks, I used that. I installed a ROM. It took a long time (especially in splash screen/boot animation) so i thought i bricked my phone. i didn't. it works great. thanks!
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no problem and for thanks there is a button, use it

[Q] Obtain root access without computer? (apk? TermEmu?)

Is this possible? I recently messed up my laptop and now I can't mess with my new N5! So is there a way I can root without a computer? Like a APK or do it in Terminal Emulator or something? Sheesh, not being able to mess with my phone is driving me nuts
Thanks.
Carloskeee said:
Is this possible? I recently messed up my laptop and now I can't mess with my new N5! So is there a way I can root without a computer? Like a APK or do it in Terminal Emulator or something? Sheesh, not being able to mess with my phone is driving me nuts
Thanks.
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No, you need to unlock the bootloader which requires a computer.
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I was wondering about this too. My boot loader is unlocked but I'm completely stock at the moment
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pepdavies said:
I was wondering about this too. My boot loader is unlocked but I'm completely stock at the moment
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If the BL is unlocked you don`t need a PC to flash and modify your phone. Just download a custom recovery (.img file) and flash it with Flashify from Play.
-Edit- missread and assumed you had root. Nope can`t flash custom software from third (stock) recovery.
gee2012 said:
If the BL is unlocked you don`t need a PC to flash and modify your phone. Just download a custom recovery (.img file) and flash it with Flashify from Play.
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Not if he is unrooted. Flashify requires root
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gee2012 said:
If the BL is unlocked you don`t need a PC to flash and modify your phone. Just download a custom recovery (.img file) and flash it with Flashify from Play.
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Flashify requires root.. So if he just has the bootloader unlocked, he couldn't do anything with it..
Edit: Ninja'd..lol
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Not if he is unrooted. Flashify requires root
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I was just about to say that. I've used flashify before. I know how to root with a custom recovery, I was just curious if there was a way to do it on the move.
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There isn't. Android blocks access to all / (root) by default. The only way to root android from within Android itself is to take advantage of an exploit but as yet there doesn't seem to be one for KK /N5.
All unlocking the bootloader does is allow you to fastboot flash a custom recovery. Rooting from a recovery is easy because android is running therefore not "blocking" / (root). But since the recovery partition is on the / root of the device, you cannot flash a recovery whilst android is running....unless you have root access.
....so fastboot flash a recovery is the only way to get root, which requires obviously a computer.
Hope this helps to understand
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Yes I understand. That is everyone.
Reason I asked. When I had my Nexus 4, all I did was download SuperSU. It was a stock device. But supersu asked to update us binary and it rooted the phone from there. I then downloaded a app to unlock the bl and did it all without a computer. Just curious if this could be done on the n5 as well. But I guess not. Thanks everyone.
Carloskeee said:
Yes I understand. That is everyone.
Reason I asked. When I had my Nexus 4, all I did was download SuperSU. It was a stock device. But supersu asked to update us binary and it rooted the phone from there. I then downloaded a app to unlock the bl and did it all without a computer. Just curious if this could be done on the n5 as well. But I guess not. Thanks everyone.
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on the n4, and n5, there are apps that can lock and unlock the bootloader. but you need root for that. if you downloaded supersu and it asked to update the binaries, that means that your device had root(old) already, and just had its bootloader relocked..

[Q] 4.4.3 Update

Hello everybody.
First of all, I'm not sure whether this is the place to post this kind of questions. My apologies in advance. Here is my problem.
I rooted my nexus 5 nearly after a month of having bought it using the nexus root toolkit. Today I received the 4.4.3 OTA, and somewhere I read that it would fail most likely. I also read read that I should set survival mode in SuperSU (a pro option) in order to retain root access, which I couldn't. I tried to update via the OTA thinking it would fail, and it worked, only that I lost my root access.
Is there an easy way to regain root access? I don't want to wipe and re-install everything. There are only a few apps I use that need root access, however it would be nice to have them back, nevertheless.
Thanks in advance.
PS: Now I am able to record video hassle-free, no more static noise in the background :victory:
HerrJuancho said:
Hello everybody.
First of all, I'm not sure whether this is the place to post this kind of questions. My apologies in advance. Here is my problem.
I rooted my nexus 5 nearly after a month of having bought it using the nexus root toolkit. Today I received the 4.4.3 OTA, and somewhere I read that it would fail most likely. I also read read that I should set survival mode in SuperSU (a pro option) in order to retain root access, which I couldn't. I tried to update via the OTA thinking it would fail, and it worked, only that I lost my root access.
Is there an easy way to regain root access? I don't want to wipe and re-install everything. There are only a few apps I use that need root access, however it would be nice to have them back, nevertheless.
Thanks in advance.
PS: Now I am able to record video hassle-free, no more static noise in the background :victory:
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So dump SuperSU zip on the phone (link in sig), and flash it with recovery.
Aerowinder said:
So dump SuperSU zip on the phone (link in sig), and flash it with recovery.
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Thanks for your reply. I have already SuperSU on my phone, but when I press it it says there are some binaries missing. Busybox doesn't update the binaries since it has no root access and says the device might be improperly rooted. My recovery is TWRP, so I can actully flash root files or such.
Edit: I just tried to boot into recovery and it didn't work quite well. There is a fallen android guy with a red triangle. So I don't have recovery either it seems.
HerrJuancho said:
Thanks for your reply. I have already SuperSU on my phone, but when I press it it says there are some binaries missing. Busybox doesn't update the binaries since it has no root access and says the device might be improperly rooted. My recovery is TWRP, so I can actully flash root files or such.
Edit: I just tried to boot into recovery and it didn't work quite well. There is a fallen android guy with a red triangle. So I don't have recovery either it seems.
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Download TWRP 2.7.1.0 from here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/hammerhead
Reboot to bootloader, fastboot flash recovery twrp.img
Flash SuperSU with TWRP.
If you do not understand these instructions, I highly suggest reading this sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...ide-nexus-5-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t2507905
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Download TWRP 2.7.1.0 from here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/hammerhead
Reboot to bootloader, fastboot flash recovery twrp.img
Flash SuperSU with TWRP.
If you do not understand these instructions, I highly suggest reading this sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...ide-nexus-5-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t2507905
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Thanks for the help. I'll try that as soon as I can.

Can somebody please help me with something?

I have my M8 with S-OFF (Paid for Sunshine) and it is temporarily rooted with KingRoot. I'm just confused on what I need to do next to get fully rooted so I can start flashing some ROMS! I tried to install TWRP with the app but it doesn't seem to work and it just boots into the standard recovery mode and NOT TWRP.
So, where do I go after having S-OFF and temp root?
I would greatly appreciate anybodies help here, I've rooted several devices before but nothing has been harder or more confusing then rooting the m8 on 5.0.1!
Thanks in advance!
MTN927 said:
I have my M8 with S-OFF (Paid for Sunshine) and it is temporarily rooted with KingRoot. I'm just confused on what I need to do next to get fully rooted so I can start flashing some ROMS! I tried to install TWRP with the app but it doesn't seem to work and it just boots into the standard recovery mode and NOT TWRP.
So, where do I go after having S-OFF and temp root?
I would greatly appreciate anybodies help here, I've rooted several devices before but nothing has been harder or more confusing then rooting the m8 on 5.0.1!
Thanks in advance!
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Flash twrp with fastboot and push/flash SuperSU in twrp.
--beaups
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I'm having trouble finding some good directions on that stuff...
I'm trying to run the WinDroid program to flash twrp, it reboots the phone into fastboot but then WinDroid just says rebooting device and doesn't seem to get passed that. Should I just wait?
MTN927 said:
I'm trying to run the WinDroid program to flash twrp, it reboots the phone into fastboot but then WinDroid just says rebooting device and doesn't seem to get passed that. Should I just wait?
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Shouldn't use apps like that. Just flash it with fastboot manually.
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beaups said:
Shouldn't use apps like that. Just flash it with fastboot manually.
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This is where I'm not finding any good directions for these steps, as far as how to do the command prompts.
OK finally got TWRP installed, can I flash SU from the SU app?
You flash SuperSU from within twrp.
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MTN, I know this can be frustrating for a newbie. There are plenty of walkthroughs, and I'm sure everyone else will tell you to google, but for the sake of being concise, here's the scoop:
1. Make sure you have ADB installed.
2. Go to your ADB prompt and make sure your device is showing up (need the HTC drivers installed) by doing:
adb devices
3. Reboot into fastboot:
adb reboot bootloader
4. Flash TWRP:
fastboot flash recovery twrp####.zip
5. Once you've got TWRP installed, you reboot INTO TWRP (full recovery) and let it patch your system because if you don't it will be overwritten. As follows:
- Reboot with VolDwn held.
- From bootloader, pick "recovery".
- Wait for TWRP to come up.
6. Once TWRP is in, drop supersu package ZIP (get the latest one, careful here!) into a directory, boot into TWRP, and install it.
Boom, your device is completely rooted.
But I think that the thing that you need to understand is that "rooted" only applies to the current ROM. Rooting isn't a magic thing - it simply means that you have root privilege on the current OS. It is separate from firmware, bootloader, etc. which all also have to be flashed/loaded/updated depending on what you are doing. There probably ought to be a newbie page somewhere that explains to people what each thing is. The ROM is essentially the same as whatever version of windows/linux/etc. you have on your home computer. It has nothing to do with the hardware, the firmware, or the bootloader.
On my phone, I followed the above procedure, but then proceeded to download and install a clean ROM that was pre-rooted. Then later I put back the stock Verizon ROM and had to reapply root. I then later removed root to return the phone to verizon for service. But I didn't uninstall Root, I simply flashed on a non-rooted ROM.
Does that make sense?

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