So I have already installed TWRP, and want to install a ROM. My question is, should i root prior to flashing a new ROM in order to run Ti Backup? If so, what root method should I use?
TIA
treams said:
So I have already installed TWRP, and want to install a ROM. My question is, should i root prior to flashing a new ROM in order to run Ti Backup? If so, what root method should I use?
TIA
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You Magisk.
ok so i already loaded magisk 13 on my external sd and when i try to install from zip in twrp it fails. something new to dig into i guess.
The custom ROMS you install will be rooted already. Doesn't matter if you root before install of custom ROM.
treams said:
So I have already installed TWRP, and want to install a ROM. My question is, should i root prior to flashing a new ROM in order to run Ti Backup? If so, what root method should I use?
TIA
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You rooted it when you installed twrp. Installing supersu or magisk gives YOU a way to interact with root.
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To ROOT or not to ROOT
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that's not even a question, it's a birth right of the phone,
you are losing out a lot if you don't root your phone.
just Titanium Backup alone is more than enough reason to root a phone.
being able to edit build.prop is another great reason
being able to install adaway is like a must
being able to... customize your phone and do anything you want to it is priceless.
If you've rooted, then you've unlocked the bootloader, so Android Pay won't work unless you use Magisk anyway. Titanium Backup is great, and I use it, but the bottom line is that once you've unlocked the bootloader you basically *have* to root to recover full functionality of the device for those apps that refuse to run otherwise.
hgoldner said:
If you've rooted, then you've unlocked the bootloader, so Android Pay won't work unless you use Magisk anyway. Titanium Backup is great, and I use it, but the bottom line is that once you've unlocked the bootloader you basically *have* to root to recover full functionality of the device for those apps that refuse to run otherwise.
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Lol, never really thought of it, but yes, you have to make your device a little more unsecured in order to use secure apps. Kind of a catch 22. Gotta love it.
jsaxon2 said:
Lol, never really thought of it, but yes, you have to make your device a little more unsecured in order to use secure apps. Kind of a catch 22. Gotta love it.
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For sure, especially coming from a company whose motto is "Don't be evil."
hgoldner said:
once you've unlocked the bootloader you basically *have* to root to recover full functionality of the device for those apps that refuse to run otherwise.
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You can run a custom kernel that masks unlocked bootloader status without rooting.
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Sorry for posting a new thread, I searched for about an hour, to no true avail. So, I haven't unlocked my Nexus S 4G yet, but I have made a lot of changes to it. A lot of changes I would rather not lose. So, basically I want to backup, than unlock. Big problem though is that MyBackup needs pro version to store online, and titanium backup needs root (and I'm not unlocked yet)! So basically I was wondering if this process would work:
-Root (no flash to SU)
-Backup using titanium backup
-Flash to SU
-Restore
tl;dr:
1.) Can you root without flashing to SU
2.) If you don't flash to SU, but still have root, can Titanium backup obtain root access?
3.)What are the commands to manually root/where do you enter them?
4.)(A stupid question I know, but might as well ask it in this thread than another one) How do you restore using titanium backup after unlocking/do you need to apply any changes to apps you had installed, or does it just return them all back to their state pre-unlock?
Tethyrian said:
Sorry for posting a new thread, I searched for about an hour, to no true avail. So, I haven't unlocked my Nexus S 4G yet, but I have made a lot of changes to it. A lot of changes I would rather not lose. So, basically I want to backup, than unlock. Big problem though is that MyBackup needs pro version to store online, and titanium backup needs root (and I'm not unlocked yet)! So basically I was wondering if this process would work:
-Root (no flash to SU)
-Backup using titanium backup
-Flash to SU
-Restore
tl;dr:
1.) Can you root without flashing to SU
2.) If you don't flash to SU, but still have root, can Titanium backup obtain root access?
3.)What are the commands to manually root/where do you enter them?
4.)(A stupid question I know, but might as well ask it in this thread than another one) How do you restore using titanium backup after unlocking/do you need to apply any changes to apps you had installed, or does it just return them all back to their state pre-unlock?
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The su binary provides root access. no access to su = no root access.
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krohnjw said:
The su binary provides root access. no access to su = no root access.
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So basically my options include buying MyBackup or losing everything?
You can root with out unlocking your bootloader. Then back up.
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mikel719 said:
You can root with out unlocking your bootloader. Then back up.
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Never realized you could do that, I'm going to try it soon, and post with updates. Thank you.
Big problem I'm running into. When I am in the console, directed at my tools folder and have the phone plugged in and on the boot loader. I type 'fastboot boot recovery.img' and it says that it is not a recognized command. Any help is appreciated.
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Big problem I'm running into. When I am in the console, directed at my tools folder and have the phone plugged in and on the boot loader. I type 'fastboot boot recovery.img' and it says that it is not a recognized command. Any help is appreciated.
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That hasn't worked since 2.3.2. It was never intended to work. You have to have an unlocked boot loader to use fastboot boot.
krohnjw said:
That hasn't worked since 2.3.2. It was never intended to work. You have to have an unlocked boot loader to use fastboot boot.
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So.. Is there a way to root without unlocking on 2.3.7? Or better yet backup without rooting?
Tethyrian said:
So.. Is there a way to root without unlocking on 2.3.7? Or better yet backup without rooting?
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You can try some of the "Gingerbreak" methods out there. They all rely on exploits to gain elevated privileges though so I would guess it's unlikely they will work. Outside of that No. You could try to purchase Mybackup Pro and restore or just forget about it.
Today I have manually done the upgrade to lollipop, but, and i also root the pone again with the nexus toolkit, but, when i use apps that require root, like titanium backup, clean master and similar, they say to me that i need the root on the phone. What can i do?
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Today I have manually done the upgrade to lollipop, but, and i also root the pone again with the nexus toolkit, but, when i use apps that require root, like titanium backup, clean master and similar, they say to me that i need the root on the phone. What can i do?
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Toolkits won't root L at this time. You'll need to flash a permissive kernel too.
See my answers here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2938778
rootSU said:
Toolkits won't root L at this time. You'll need to flash a permissive kernel too.
See my answers here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2938778
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i have the franco kernel on my phone, is ok for get the root access?
Hi,
I found around the web that is possible root the Nexus 5 without losing file over KitKat, there is a way also with lollipop??
Thanks!
Rooting doesn't cause you to lose data. Unlocking your boot loader does...
I know, but there is a way to avoid the lose of data??
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I know, but there is a way to avoid the lose of data??
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Not if you have a locked bootloader, no. Use helium backup and copy your sdcard to computer
What rooting method you guys recommend,Chainfire or wugfresh?
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What rooting method you guys recommend,Chainfire or wugfresh?
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I never recommend toolkits, so out of those two, chainfire. (Wugfresh is a toolkit)
However that said, I would recommend unlocking bootloader, fastboot flashing recovery then flashing supersu from recovery. That way you know what you're doing.
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I never recommend toolkits, so out of those two, chainfire. (Wugfresh is a toolkit)
However that said, I would recommend unlocking bootloader, fastboot flashing recovery then flashing supersu from recovery. That way you know what you're doing.
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This. Just back up your entire phone (including the sdcard folder) so you are sure you won't lose anything.
I did as I have suggested, all right !! Xposed sin that still does not support Lollipop ..
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I did as I have suggested, all right !! Xposed sin that still does not support Lollipop ..
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It doesn't support ART
Same reason for Freedom?
This Process Will Root Phone Unlock Your VZW EMMC 15 Chipset Bootloader Install TWRP Recobery And Imstall Latest QL1 Stock Rom .
Downloads
S5_Root_Tools_2023.7z
EMMC_15_Rom.zip -- Stock QL1 6.0
Directions For Unlocking Stock Phone
I would recommend Windows defender is turned of before starting
1. Download S5_Root_Tools_2023.7z and unzip
2. Make sure Usb debugging is enabled on your phone
3. Plug in phone and run Safestrap.exe and follow directions on command window
4. This process is pretty much 1 click all automatic except following command window prompts
5. This will detect if your phone is EMMC 11 or 15
6. If it detects EMMC 15 it will automatically unlock your bootloaders.
7. Once process is done reboot too twrp and flash rom of choice or use provide one and flash root zip of choice
Regular Magisk
Releases · topjohnwu/Magisk
The Magic Mask for Android. Contribute to topjohnwu/Magisk development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Magisk Delta
Releases · HuskyDG/magisk-files
Contribute to HuskyDG/magisk-files development by creating an account on GitHub.
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ETFSU
EFTSU Root Solutions
The Largest Database for the Root Solutions on the Internet
eftsu.com
Safteynet Fix Module
Releases · kdrag0n/safetynet-fix
Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk - kdrag0n/safetynet-fix
github.com
Old Method And Old Downloads
EMMC_15_SS_Install_QL1_6_0_1_MM_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO_Rom.zip -- Rom Zip
EMMC_11_S5_Root_Tools_2022_V7.7z
-- Files Needed To Root Phone
Instructions To Root And Install Safestrap
**If you already have safestrap installed you can skip to Instructions To Unlock Bootloader
**If you are already rooted but do not have safestrap installed download View attachment S5_Safestrap.apk install then skip to Instructions To Unlock Bootloader**
Directions
1. Download both files and unzip EMMC_15_And_11_S5_Root_Tools_2022_V7.7z
2. Reboot phone too Download Mode by holding Power+VolDwn+HomeButton as phone starts up
3. Plug phone into computer and open the Odin provided in the above file in the Odin_Folder
4. In Odin Choose BL slot and choose the COMBINATION_VZW_FA44_G900VVRU2APA1_VZW2APA1_2572656_REV00_user_mid_noship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 Located in the Odin_Folder
5. Flash the file using provided Odin let phone reboot. This will wipe your phone
6. Once phone is rebooted make sure its plugged into computer and phone use recognized by computer
7. Run the Install_One_Click.cmd this should install safestrap. If this method fails countinue with below methods.
8. If above method fails you can reboot and try again or run the Manual_Install_Root_Apps.cmd and try below methods to root
Towel Root Method
These steps are only needed if above root method failed
1. You need too be connected to a network. Try one of towel root apps and if not successful then try the other one. If it doesn't work go to King root section
2. If towel root succeeds then run the click on the super su app and choose to update su binary and choose normal once successfully updated reboot phone
King Root Method
These steps are only needed if towel root failed
1. You will need to be connected to a network. Click on King root app then click try root
2. Once root is successful don't click on the optimize and close the king root app.
3, Run the Manual_Install_SuperSu.cmd
Installing Safestrap
9. This only needs to be done if 1Click bat method failed. Now click on safestrap app and clisk install safestrap click allow in root dialog app once installed click reboot to safestrap
10. Busybox must be installed ifirst if you used towelroot method too root
Instructions To Unlock Bootloader
11. Enter safestrap now in safetrap it will ask you to swipe to allow modding system make sure to do this now . If you have not copied the EMMC_15_SS_Install_QL1_6_0_1_MM_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO_Rom.zip from the EMMC_15_Bootloader_Unlock_Zip folder do so now Click install tab and choose EMMC_15_SS_Install_QL1_6_0_1_MM_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO_Rom.zip and install.
12. When done phone will power off.
13. Reboot phone to recovery you should now have TWRP recovery installed and the choose wipe the advanced wipe and wipe data only then reboot
14. Phone will reboot and stick on red Verizon screen for probably 15 to 20 min be patient. When finally booted you will have an unlocked bootloader with TWRP recovery running a Deodexed Rooted QL1 stock MM 6.0 Rom Rooted with EFTSU with root hide and safetynet pass module
Disabling Reactivation Lock
Thanks bbsc
1. Follow above directions too obtain safestrap and root
2. Download and flash EMMC_11_NCG_KK_Safestrap_Full.zip in safestrap then wipe data
This has Samsung Setup Wizard removed so you can get through setup
3. Set up a wireless connection or use your SIM-card and internet connection from your provider.
4. Navigate to Settings - Security, find Reactivation Lock and untick it. The phone will ask you for your existing credentials or to register a new Samsung account. Accept too update app then allow google check when it ask
5. Login to your new account and you will be able to untick Reactivation Lock.
6. When it unticked, Navigate to Settings - Backup Reset - Factory data Reset.
7. Phone will reboot too stock recovery and wipe data and remove current samsung account and you are good too go.
8. Now proceed with unlocking bootloader step 11 you have to enter safestrap from the safestrap splash screen on bootup its not installed as a recovery image because stock recovery is needed
Credits
beaups Sourcecode and tool
ryanbg
haggertk For his CID
autonomousperson For compiling the source to a app
magic_man185 For compiling the source
GeTex
klabit87 - Basically Everything
@GSMCHEN Lots of stuff
elliwigy Lots of stuff
afaneh92 -Safestrap and too much too mention
Sourcecode
https://github.com/beaups/SamsungCID
Instructions for downgrading or updating bootloaders can be found here
2022_VZW_EMMC_15_Chipset For Unlocked Dev BL To Downgrade To LL_KK Or Upgrade To MM_And Keep Unlock Bootloader
This Process Will Update Or Downgrade Your VZW EMMC Chipset DEV Aboot Bootloader Unlocked S5 To Marshmallow 6.0 Lollipop 5.0 Or Kitkat 4.2 or 4.4 Root And Unlock Instructions Can Be Found Here EMMC 15 Rooting And Bootloader Unlocking EMMC 11...
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jrkruse said:
mine
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Nice job man! [emoji106]
stang5litre Edition 5.0 Roms
stang5litre said:
Nice job man! [emoji106]
stang5litre Edition 5.0 Roms
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I was bored so I thought it would be fun to mess around with some old school stuff. Man things were alot more simple back in these days
@jrkruse awesome job...!! :good:You definitely must be bored... Lol. May try that on an old one for craps and giggles... Lol. Again, awesome to bring a lil history back to life... :good:
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I was bored so I thought it would be fun to mess around with some old school stuff. Man things were alot more simple back in these days
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Nice job man, much appreciated.
If you ever get bored try to make a pre-rooted rom/safestrap recovery (course no bootloader unlock) for the G930U/G935U with the latest firmware UUESACSI1 (Aug 27 2019), since it looks like Samsung has stopped updating this phone, or better yet a root-patcher for a stock sytem.img like you did for the G950/N950. I have uploaded the latest eng-boot vA/10 here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...postcount=1826
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I was bored so I thought it would be fun to mess around with some old school stuff. Man things were alot more simple back in these days
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How do I update the bootloader and rom to newer QL1 if I had already unlocked the bootloader and installed twrp with much older stock rom and bootloader?
I still have the stock rom from 2016 when the bootloader unlock method was discovered.
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How do I update the bootloader and rom to newer QL1 if I had already unlocked the bootloader and installed twrp with much older stock rom and bootloader?
I still have the stock rom from 2016 when the bootloader unlock method was discovered.
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the rar seems to be corrupted ... says unknown or damaged format. I tried a few of the download points.
Would you be able to re-create / upload?
bigstack said:
the rar seems to be corrupted ... says unknown or damaged format. I tried a few of the download points.
Would you be able to re-create / upload?
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What are you extracting it with?
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First of all, thank you so very much Jkruse! I followed all of your instructions and everything went perfectly! The reason why I wanted to get this completed on my old S5, is that we want to gift this phone to my wife's mother. The catch is, she only speaks Russian, and I was wondering if I would now be able to flash an international version of firmware on the S5, so that she can have access to Russian as a language option? Is this doable?
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First of all, thank you so very much Jkruse! I followed all of your instructions and everything went perfectly! The reason why I wanted to get this completed on my old S5, is that we want to gift this phone to my wife's mother. The catch is, she only speaks Russian, and I was wondering if I would now be able to flash an international version of firmware on the S5, so that she can have access to Russian as a language option? Is this doable?
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Its really no easy process to flash an international rom if you are using Verizon then data will probably not work with out some editing. You can always try it but Verizon will probably need Verizon csc stuff to work and build.prop edits.
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Hey thanks for this post! I was worried about using some of the old guides on my phone, glad I found this.
However, I have a question due to why I want to root my phone.
My situation: My phone went through the factory reset process without giving me a warning before doing so. I plan on rooting my phone and trying a few different methods for recovering the files.
My Main Question: Will I be good to go with a fully rooted phone after completing step 12?
I don't feel a need to unlock the bootloader for what I'm doing (although I might do so anyway after I'm done attempting to recover files).
I've never rooted a phone before. Aside from verifying that I'm using the EMMC 15 chipset (I used the eMMC_CID_Checker_apk from this thread:https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve.../testers-required-easier-root-method-t3561529), is there anything else I should do or know about?
SaltedSand said:
Hey thanks for this post! I was worried about using some of the old guides on my phone, glad I found this.
However, I have a question due to why I want to root my phone.
My situation: My phone went through the factory reset process without giving me a warning before doing so. I plan on rooting my phone and trying a few different methods for recovering the files.
My Main Question: Will I be good to go with a fully rooted phone after completing step 12?
I don't feel a need to unlock the bootloader for what I'm doing (although I might do so anyway after I'm done attempting to recover files).
I've never rooted a phone before. Aside from verifying that I'm using the EMMC 15 chipset (I used the eMMC_CID_Checker_apk from this thread:https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve.../testers-required-easier-root-method-t3561529), is there anything else I should do or know about?
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By the time you root there will be no files to recovery. There is another wipe involved to root so chances are there will not be much left to recover
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jrkruse said:
By the time you root there will be no files to recovery. There is another wipe involved to root so chances are there will not be much left to recover
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I'm wondering if he's wanting to root to use a file recovery app, like DiskDigger. It can recover but device needs to be rooted to access the complete internal system to recover files. As he mentioned a few times about recovering/restoring files. I recall using that (DD) a couple times and it actually worked after I mistakenly did a full wipe/reset when I was switching between ROM's and back to stock...
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I'm wondering if he's wanting to root to use a file recovery app, like DiskDigger. It can recover but needs device needs to be rooted to access the complete internal system to recover files. As he mentioned a few times about recovering/restoring files. I recall using that (DD) a couple times and it actually worked after I mistakenly did a full wipe/reset when I was switching between ROM's and back to stock...
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Like i said though in order to root you have to wipe again before you can root. So there aren’t going to be much left to recovery after 2 wipes and a repartition
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al50 said:
I'm wondering if he's wanting to root to use a file recovery app, like DiskDigger. It can recover but device needs to be rooted to access the complete internal system to recover files. As he mentioned a few times about recovering/restoring files. I recall using that (DD) a couple times and it actually worked after I mistakenly did a full wipe/reset when I was switching between ROM's and back to stock...
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Yeah that's what I have in mind.
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Like i said though in order to root you have to wipe again before you can root. So there aren’t going to be much left to recovery after 2 wipes and a repartition
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Yeah I figured, makes sense, but I don't see a mention of wiping before step 12 though. This is why I'm asking if it would be okay for me to stop there, attempt to recover some files, and then continue with the rest of the steps?
Could this potentially screw something up if I do it this way? I'd rather play it safe than sorry, most of my important stuff on this phone is backed up anyway.
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Yeah that's what I have in mind.
Yeah I figured, makes sense, but I don't see a mention of wiping before step 12 though. This is why I'm asking if it would be okay for me to stop there, attempt to recover some files, and then continue with the rest of the steps?
Could this potentially screw something up if I do it this way? I'd rather play it safe than sorry, most of my important stuff on this phone is backed up anyway.
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Flashing the combo firmware so you can root wipes your phone
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jrkruse said:
Flashing the combo firmware so you can root wipes your phone
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Ah, I see, but would it be safe for me to stop at step 12 anyway?
I figure I might as well give it a shot anyway, even if It's unlikely I'll recover anything, but I'd rather only wipe it a single time than twice.
SaltedSand said:
Ah, I see, but would it be safe for me to stop at step 12 anyway?
I figure I might as well give it a shot anyway, even if It's unlikely I'll recover anything, but I'd rather only wipe it a single time than twice.
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If you stop at 12 you will just have king root and some apps work with kingroot but some do not
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I currently have android 11 which about 2 years ago I unlocked, installed TWRP and rooted. I later allowed the phone to update but didn't realize I should have re-flashed TWRP and root before I rebooted the phone so I lost the use of TWRP and root. Now I want to reflash android 11 but wont unlock and root the phone again but want TWRP. How do I go about doing this (I am not strong with what I need to do and have usually caused a problem before by using the wrong enchilada file, the last one that worked was twrp-3.3.1-18-enchilada-Q-mauronofrio I think) and which files should I use?
you can't flash anything on a locked phone so at the very least you can have it unlocked + twrp and no root if you wish
otherwise no twrp
croperas said:
you can't flash anything on a locked phone so at the very least you can have it unlocked + twrp and no root if you wish
otherwise no twrp
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That's what I want to do, sorry for any misunderstanding, I want to lock the phone so I can use financial apps and also have TWRP. What process and enchilada shall I use? I already downloaded OnePlus6TOxygen_34.J.62.
Westindieman said:
That's what I want to do, sorry for any misunderstanding, I want to lock the phone so I can use financial apps and also have TWRP. What process and enchilada shall I use? I already downloaded OnePlus6TOxygen_34.J.62.
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That's what i was saying, this is not possible, locking or unlocking requires full wipe which nullifies any custom things you do.
You can have a phone that's not rooted which should be good enough for most checks but if it checks the bootloader there's nothing you can do about it besides not use it or use stock
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That's what i was saying, this is not possible, locking or unlocking requires full wipe which nullifies any custom things you do.
You can have a phone that's not rooted which should be good enough for most checks but if it checks the bootloader there's nothing you can do about it besides not use it or use stock
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I understand now thanks for your patience. What process should I follow then to return from here to stock and locked considering I don't have TWRP?
Westindieman said:
I understand now thanks for your patience. What process should I follow then to return from here to stock and locked considering I don't have TWRP?
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Backup what you need
Relock the bootloader
Flash stock rom using fastboot
I have relocked and am now trying to work out how to flash the new rom
All sorted now, didn't need to flash a new ROM
Awesome, Enjoy the phone