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Can't find anything like this. Want to use a stock rom until CM7 gets its crap together.
U dont have a back up of your stock rom ? Take them from this time onwards. Its situations like these when u required them
What's wrong with CM7? Seems better than stock to me atm.
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What's wrong with CM7? Seems better than stock to me atm.
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I'm surprised they're at RC status on CM based on some of the various bug reports and missing features I keep seeing pop up here and in the general section. The short answer to your question is that it's not-quite-ready-for-prime-time in some people's experience.
I'll turn your question around: what's wrong with stock? Gingerbread/NS is first Android combo I've not felt the desire to use a non-stock rom on yet even after two months.
To the original poster, I'll second what @suhas_sm said, you don't have a nandroid of your stock/rooted system? That should always be the first thing you do after rooting any phone, and the first step in flashing any new rom, ESPECIALLY a new rom that is in alpha/beta status (like CM7).
If you don't have your own nandroid, the development section does have nandroid images of a stock rom you can restore over your phone via clockwork recovery.
I have the stock back up but won't I lose root after I reboot?
I LOOOVE CM roms but CM7 is too buggy for me. Can't wait to use it when it's stable.
I will say I love my stock ROM with the Netarchy Kernal @ 1.2Ghz it is blazing fast. This is the first android phone I have had and damn its great. I don't think i need to go doing new ROMs other than the whole theme option sounds great.
So who be upgrading to froyo now that its available ?
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Pointless thread.
The only think that The update is good for is the source code.
just updated. now ill wait for some ROMs to finally start flashing.
Its been available, only people who will upgrade to it are on stock anyways.
How is it ? I'm running. Firefly 2.2 suckerpunch kernel # 51 and a theme by darky u think its worth for me to flash back to stock and upgrade
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tupirujp said:
How is it ? I'm running. Firefly 2.2 suckerpunch kernel # 51 and a theme by darky u think its worth for me to flash back to stock and upgrade
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If you ask me, not a chance.
basically upgrade if you're bored. its for folks who dont want to flash custom roms more or less. all the customized stuff the devs on here offer is way better than official 2.2
all in all not worth it. still havent found a lagfix yet but have figured out how to root/install cwm
now i wait for the first dev to create a rom i can test
I'm only curious if gps is actually better, but sounds like it's not. Shocking...
tupirujp said:
How is it ? I'm running. Firefly 2.2 suckerpunch kernel # 51 and a theme by darky u think its worth for me to flash back to stock and upgrade
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There's a whole thread full of posts from people who already upgraded. The title is secret, though, so you might have missed it. It has the words "Official Froyo" in it.
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I'm only curious if gps is actually better, but sounds like it's not. Shocking...
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locked location in my apt and it took over 5 min
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locked location in my apt and it took over 5 min
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Ouch... So much for it being fixed..
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Ouch... So much for it being fixed..
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ya its strange
i was getting locks with torch and cog4 8-9 sats
haven't been able to get a lock since flash and 3 sats is the most i have seen (usually not seeing any or just 1)
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basically upgrade if you're bored. its for folks who dont want to flash custom roms more or less. all the customized stuff the devs on here offer is way better than official 2.2
all in all not worth it. still havent found a lagfix yet but have figured out how to root/install cwm
now i wait for the first dev to create a rom i can test
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If you haven't tried it, how do you know if it's better or not?
You might want to see this post. Supercurio, who developed SPeedMod, has injected Voodoo Lagfix into the Rogers Froyo Kernel, it will work for AT&T Froyo. I have better speeds and performance than on any custom ROM or SpeedMod. Try it out.
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Ouch... So much for it being fixed..
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Have you tried getting into LBS test mode and resetting your GPS Data?
*#*#3214789650#*#*
Then select delete GPS Data
Also, first locks on new software take longer the first time. If you do the above, it should help.
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Have you tried getting into LBS test mode and resetting your GPS Data?
*#*#3214789650#*#*
Then select delete GPS Data
Also, first locks on new software take longer the first time. If you do the above, it should help.
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Didn't take longer when I flashed Cog or supernova.
I didn't flash KB1 but not surprised there are still issues. GPS data, servers and all that won't fix broken hardware.
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Didn't take longer when I flashed Cog or supernova.
I didn't flash KB1 but not surprised there are still issues. GPS data, servers and all that won't fix broken hardware.
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Well, maybe just give it a try. It can't hurt.
I guess we're lucky in Canada, haven't seen anyone here with these GPS issues.
You guys act as if these custom roms are without bugs. I have flashed many of them and im back on stock because there is always something wrong. besides its not that hard to remove the bloatware yourself. My gps hasnt ever worked on any custom rom dont know if it will on knew one since it wont let me upgrade. problems with call logs showing incorrectly or problems with txt, bt crashes. I have no problems on stock at all, removed all att stuff and it is the way i want it, I dont even use the themes that come with em only a few i seen that i liked and had to buy seperately to make it complete.
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You guys act as if these custom roms are without bugs. I have flashed many of them and im back on stock because there is always something wrong. besides its not that hard to remove the bloatware yourself. My gps hasnt ever worked on any custom rom dont know if it will on knew one since it wont let me upgrade. problems with call logs showing incorrectly or problems with txt, bt crashes. I have no problems on stock at all, removed all att stuff and it is the way i want it, I dont even use the themes that come with em only a few i seen that i liked and had to buy seperately to make it complete.
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Well put. Custom ROMs are basically skinned stock I9000/2.2 ROMs anyway, with bloatware stripped out, other functionality added, and custom kernels and modems.
The beauty of a stock ROM, rooted, with boatware removed(TiBu) and a voodoo injected kernel is better stability, functionality, and reliability. A lot of people here who use custom ROMs have never had access to a native 2.2 stock ROM, and thereby have nothing to compare it to, yet they are stating that custom ROMs are better than 2.2 stock, but how would they know? They've never tried it. Why not try it out? We already have a working 2.2 kernel with Voodoo Lagfix, and I can't say it enough: for me, better speeds, better reliability, faster performance, etc.
However, I'd like to see what happens when we can start making custom ROMs based on 2.2 rather than I9000 though. Non of this wishy washy kernel/modem compatibility etc. It will be better for everyone.
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Well put. Custom ROMs are basically skinned stock I9000/2.2 ROMs anyway, with bloatware stripped out, other functionality added, and custom kernels and modems.
The beauty of a stock ROM, rooted, with boatware removed(TiBu) and a voodoo injected kernel is better stability, functionality, and reliability. A lot of people here who use custom ROMs have never had access to a native 2.2 stock ROM, and thereby have nothing to compare it to, yet they are stating that custom ROMs are better than 2.2 stock, but how would they know? They've never tried it. Why not try it out? We already have a working 2.2 kernel with Voodoo Lagfix, and I can't say it enough: for me, better speeds, better reliability, faster performance, etc.
However, I'd like to see what happens when we can start making custom ROMs based on 2.2 rather than I9000 though. Non of this wishy washy kernel/modem compatibility etc. It will be better for everyone.
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Andromeda is built on a stock 2.2 Captivate ROM. So is Cog 4.
since there seems to be so much confusion about this update for those of us that are on stock 2.3.3 rom and are rooted and s off revolutionary , i would like to request a rooted stock version of 2.3.4 since i don't know what would happen if i try to apply this ota update with my situation. thanks
No one has it yet. Most of the people posting links to download isn't even the full ROM.
Install a custom ROM!
Stupid and useless Thread ... sry but we dont need it!
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No one has it yet. Most of the people posting links to download isn't even the full ROM.
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Full ROM isn't needed to make a rooted version of an update.
I've had a Nexus One and a Nexus S, they're quicker over there.
simple request, maybe its useless for you then don't read it ****...I don't want a custom one, I like stock and I'm sick of people like you on these forums that criticize people for wanting a stock rooted rom and don't want all the extra tweaks. Worry about what your running and not everyone else
@xtcislove
I will have a stock rooted rom up in a little while
thanks man!
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simple request, maybe its useless for you then don't read it ****...I don't want a custom one, I like stock and I'm sick of people like you on these forums that criticize people for wanting a stock rooted rom and don't want all the extra tweaks. Worry about what your running and not everyone else
@xtcislove
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I will have a stock rooted rom up in a little while
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Thanks to the both of you!
Amen to that, about the custom ROMs...You custom ROMers are just pushing us stock ROMers further away. The only custom ROM, aside from having this one tailored to us noobs with S-oFF, CWM, and root,that I want is CM7.
Enough pushing already! We know where to go if we want a ROM. Seriously, I dont understand this peer pressure BS? Is there money involved? WTF is it? Why do people here give a crap about whether or not someone has a custom ROM over stock?
Matt
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Why do people here give a crap about whether or not someone has a custom ROM over stock?
Matt
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As you said, peer pressure. They must think that their way is the only way; hence, the pushing.
OTA_Pyramid_TMOUS_1.45.531.1-1.29.531.2_P_release_208884g0xcvwhujbb41c3b
ENJOY
http://www.filesonic.com/file/1711367714
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ENJOY
http://www.filesonic.com/file/1711367714
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Well that was fast...thanks bro.
Flashing now...Will post my thoughts in the next thread.
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ENJOY
http://www.filesonic.com/file/1711367714
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Are you sure this is STOCK ROOTED 2.3.4 update? Looks like it's the normal ota. LOL.
birgertime has uploaded a Stock Rooted 2.3.4 Rom in the developer section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226085
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As you said, peer pressure. They must think that their way is the only way; hence, the pushing.
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I agree. And those people pushing us to use custom roms must think that they're cool just cause they're using custom roms. Funny, when you go to the custom rom threads that they're pushing us to use, they have tons of issues and problems too! A lot more than the stock rom ones. And yet they tell you to install custom roms when you post having issues with the stock one, like they don't already have their own. I myself use custom roms every once in a while, I admit. But for reliability on the gps, camera, MMS size etc., I always go back to my nandroid backup. Custom roms are just for aesthetics and not too reliable as some of these fanatics are claiming. Also, my nandroid sensation with bloat removed is just as fast or even faster than most of these custom rom ones. And more reliable.
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yeah..this file does not work..wont even flash..gives a whole buncha #'s and 111111's
First of all, I am a iphone convert (this week) and bought an Infuse. love the phone and android. I am a noob and have a noob question:
I would love to upgrade to gingerbread and don't want to root. I believe I can do that with the stock ROMs. My question is a stock ROM such as ROM I997UCKK3 [2.3.6] 100% stable with everything working?
I use my phone for business so I can't have calls not come thru or other problems on it.
Any insight is appreciated.
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First of all, I am a iphone convert (this week) and bought an Infuse. love the phone and android. I am a noob and have a noob question:
I would love to upgrade to gingerbread and don't want to root. I believe I can do that with the stock ROMs. My question is a stock ROM such as ROM I997UCKK3 [2.3.6] 100% stable with everything working?
I use my phone for business so I can't have calls not come thru or other problems on it.
Any insight is appreciated.
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I believe you
WILL have to root in order to install the rom.
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crazysports457 said:
First of all, I am a iphone convert (this week) and bought an Infuse. love the phone and android. I am a noob and have a noob question:
I would love to upgrade to gingerbread and don't want to root. I believe I can do that with the stock ROMs. My question is a stock ROM such as ROM I997UCKK3 [2.3.6] 100% stable with everything working?
I use my phone for business so I can't have calls not come thru or other problems on it.
Any insight is appreciated.
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I've installed every single stock leak there is (I hate ugly modded roms). KK3 is NOT the way to go. KK4 was just released and currently it's not rooted and runs beautifully. Wifi, bluetooth, GPS, data and phone are all working great. 9 times out of 10 the rooted versions suck anyways because they use a buggy kernal that wasn't meant for it. There's usually some kind of trade off with rooted roms so if you don't care about rooting, grab KK4 and flash with ODIN.
http://hotfile.com/dl/136287854/7d4dc53/SGH-I997_I997UCKK4_ATT.rar.html
this is exactly the type of info I was looking for! Thanks! Is absolutely everything working on the KK4? all the apps and everything?
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this is exactly the type of info I was looking for! Thanks! Is absolutely everything working on the KK4? all the apps and everything?
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I've been playing with it all day and I have yet to find any issues. All apps work, no shutdowns, no lagging, no dropped wifi, no data switching, no bluetooth problems...nothing. Definately one step closer to "official".
the custom kernel is usually packaged so people have cwm and dont get in a panic not being able to flash out of the rom the same way they flashed it. if i knew how to repack the initramfs id give a shot at making a more stock kernel with cwm. but unfortunately like the rom chefs here i dont have that knowledge. you can absolutely have kk4 rooted without a rogers based kernel, it just means flashing twice. maybe ill fill that gap since flashing the stock kernel back to the phone is too much for many people to figure out. the phone retains root if you flash the stock kernel. what is going on is there is a script in the custom kernel that copies the su file and simlinks it while the phone boots in an insecure state. once root is there it stays unless you flash the rom. after the phone is rooted the kernel has zero effect on root privledges.
I'm making the transition from my old Droid X to the VZW Galaxy S3, and I have a few questions. The flashing process between these two phones are quite different and perhaps another ex-Droid X user (or just an all around knowledgeable person) could help me out.
1. To my knowledge, we were never able to flash Kernels on the Droid X because of its locked bootloader. So how does Kernel flashing work? Are there certain kernels that only pair with certain roms, or can you flash any kernel you like with any rom? I have a feeling it's the former, as I've already seen kernels categorized i.e. Touchwiz Kernels or CM10 based kernels.
2. With the Droid X, all roms were flashed using CWM. But with this phone that's not always the case right? Some may require a kexec method or even a custom recovery image, correct?
3. I've seen a few roms recommend backing up IMEI / MEID / EFS data before flashing. Is something I should consider doing whenever I flash, just as one would do a nandroid backup?
4. I've seen a few threads mentioning flash count, resetting flash count, etc. Should I be concerned with flash count? If so, why?
5. With the Droid X, before you could flash a rom, you had to make sure the firmware you were on was compatible with whatever rom you were trying out. For example, if you wanted to try cm7 you had to flash over the stock froyo kernel. If you wanted to try miui you had to flash over a stock gingerbread kernel. However, it would seem, with the S3 you can flash any rom (whether it be an ics rom or a jb rom) over stock 4.0.4. Is this correct? Can you flash an ics rom over the top of a jb rom? Or do you always have to revert back to ics stock?
6. Is Odin the Samsung equivalent of rsd lite?
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I'm making the transition from my old Droid X to the VZW Galaxy S3, and I have a few questions. The flashing process between these two phones are quite different and perhaps another ex-Droid X user (or just an all around knowledgeable person) could help me out.
1. To my knowledge, we were never able to flash Kernels on the Droid X because of its locked bootloader. So how does Kernel flashing work? Are there certain kernels that only pair with certain roms, or can you flash any kernel you like with any rom? I have a feeling it's the former, as I've already seen kernels categorized i.e. Touchwiz Kernels or CM10 based kernels.
2. With the Droid X, all roms were flashed using CWM. But with this phone that's not always the case right? Some may require a kexec method or even a custom recovery image, correct?
3. I've seen a few roms recommend backing up IMEI / MEID / EFS data before flashing. Is something I should consider doing whenever I flash, just as one would do a nandroid backup?
4. I've seen a few threads mentioning flash count, resetting flash count, etc. Should I be concerned with flash count? If so, why?
5. With the Droid X, before you could flash a rom, you had to make sure the firmware you were on was compatible with whatever rom you were trying out. For example, if you wanted to try cm7 you had to flash over the stock froyo kernel. If you wanted to try miui you had to flash over a stock gingerbread kernel. However, it would seem, with the S3 you can flash any rom (whether it be an ics rom or a jb rom) over stock 4.0.4. Is this correct? Can you flash an ics rom over the top of a jb rom? Or do you always have to revert back to ics stock?
6. Is Odin the Samsung equivalent of rsd lite?
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1. Flashing kernels has been made as simple as flashing ROMs
2. kexec is outdated since the bootloader got unlocked. You can also still use CWM on this or there's another recovery that people like called TWRP (Download an app called EZ-Recovery from the play store, youll need it to flash any recovery)
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
4. I haven't tripped the flash count. Basically all it is is a way for Verizon to tell if you been f'in with your phone. I Believe that only AOSP/AOKP ROMs can trip it, not stock ROMS
5. It's a bit simpler flashing between ROMs on this phone. Just wipe data/factory reset and flash away. For the most part.
6. Yes it is basically.
Check the guide out in my sig, it'll explain how to do most everything in detail.
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1. Flashing kernels has been made as simple as flashing ROMs
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To Elaborate on this just a bit, yes it is as easy as flashing roms but you were correct in saying that there are aosp kernels and there are tw kernels. just make sure the os version (ICS, JB) and the framework (TW, AOSP) match your rom and you are good to go!
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To Elaborate on this just a bit, yes it is as easy as flashing roms but you were correct in saying that there are aosp kernels and there are tw kernels. just make sure the os version (ICS, JB) and the framework (TW, AOSP) match your rom and you are good to go!
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Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
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Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
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If you are just getting your feet wet with tw roms, you might consider giving Bean's a try. I've been using Build 9 since it dropped and it's smooth.
imo, it's themed just enough to not look like a straight tw rom, the performance is great and the battery life is fantastic as well.
I've tried synergy once or twice and was never quite completely satisfied with it.
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Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
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I haven't run CM or MIUI or any other AOSP ROM on this phone so take this with a grain of salt;
If you want cool stuff and constant bugs/lack of normal features go with the AOSP....
If you want some cool stuff and a nice stable daily driver... go with the TW ROMs. I've been running Synergy since 1.2(or 3 I cant remember lol) and I love it. Everything works on it, it's stable, and it's currently being ported to Jelly Bean so I can't wait for that shtuff. Eschelon and the rest of his team are good about listening to feature suggestions/requests too when they got time so more and more will be added.
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I haven't run CM or MIUI or any other AOSP ROM on this phone so take this with a grain of salt;
If you want cool stuff and constant bugs/lack of normal features go with the AOSP....
If you want some cool stuff and a nice stable daily driver... go with the TW ROMs. I've been running Synergy since 1.2(or 3 I cant remember lol) and I love it. Everything works on it, it's stable, and it's currently being ported to Jelly Bean so I can't wait for that shtuff. Eschelon and the rest of his team are good about listening to feature suggestions/requests too when they got time so more and more will be added.
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Relentless D said:
If you are just getting your feet wet with tw roms, you might consider giving Bean's a try. I've been using Build 9 since it dropped and it's smooth.
imo, it's themed just enough to not look like a straight tw rom, the performance is great and the battery life is fantastic as well.
I've tried synergy once or twice and was never quite completely satisfied with it.
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The moral of the story...Try out a few different roms What is amazing for one person might not be for the next. I'm flashing new roms every few days because I always want to see what else is out there.
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The moral of the story...Try out a few different roms What is amazing for one person might not be for the next. I'm flashing new roms every few days because I always want to see what else is out there.
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Yea I had beans for a little while... I honestly cant remember why I switched. I was just suggesting he stick with the TW ROMs period cuz I dont feel the AOSP ROMs are anywhere near stable enough yet.
Don't want to hijack OP's thread, but do any of you know how to check flash counter?
I will be getting my FOURTH sg3 this week, and this is the first time I will be returning a phone that I had rooted/unlocked/rommed. I'm all back to stock, just want to make sure I don't get a bill for $600.
Kreeker said:
Don't want to hijack OP's thread, but do any of you know how to check flash counter?
I will be getting my FOURTH sg3 this week, and this is the first time I will be returning a phone that I had rooted/unlocked/rommed. I'm all back to stock, just want to make sure I don't get a bill for $600.
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haven't tried it but this is the best I've found searching around real quick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
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3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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I honestly don't know. One of the devs for Synergy ROM said something to the effect its "a weird Samsung reboot code and so the phone automatically restores a bad backup of your IMEI. It's a fluke thing"
It's 100% random when flashing anything I believe.
If u use the synergy Rom to flash it automatically has a script to back up your meid number and stuff. I've flashed synergy official cm10 nightlies without a hitch. Just make sure that u obtain root and unlock the bootloader and flash recovery. Thus far I've had no problems. Btw synergy Rom is the best one out there. Jellywiz is a jb Rom it is awesome but only thing that doesn't work is sms at the present time. If u want to back up ur meid best tool to use is qpst just Google it. Also all in one tool that has been great for me unlocking obtaining root and stuff is Verizon gs3 casual tool. In order to use that tool u mist have java se framework which u can find at the java website. Any questions feel free to shoot me a message! Good luck!
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If u use the synergy Rom to flash it automatically has a script to back up your meid number and stuff. I've flashed synergy official cm10 nightlies without a hitch. Just make sure that u obtain root and unlock the bootloader and flash recovery. Thus far I've had no problems. Btw synergy Rom is the best one out there. Jellywiz is a jb Rom it is awesome but only thing that doesn't work is sms at the present time. If u want to back up ur meid best tool to use is qpst just Google it. Also all in one tool that has been great for me unlocking obtaining root and stuff is Verizon gs3 casual tool. In order to use that tool u mist have java se framework which u can find at the java website. Any questions feel free to shoot me a message! Good luck!
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Just to clarify. Synergy is a stock tw based rom and CM10 is well a cm based rom. Two different monsters and roms entirely.
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U r right but both can be flashed the same way
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Brian Gove said:
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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I found this thread which looks like the Synergy guys made a script to backup IMEI. I gave it a go and was succesful in backing it up. Seemed much easier than the QPST method. Don't know if it will actually restore, but hopefully I'll never have to find out.
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