Stock rom with root? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can't find anything like this. Want to use a stock rom until CM7 gets its crap together.

U dont have a back up of your stock rom ? Take them from this time onwards. Its situations like these when u required them

What's wrong with CM7? Seems better than stock to me atm.

Serious_Beans said:
What's wrong with CM7? Seems better than stock to me atm.
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I'm surprised they're at RC status on CM based on some of the various bug reports and missing features I keep seeing pop up here and in the general section. The short answer to your question is that it's not-quite-ready-for-prime-time in some people's experience.
I'll turn your question around: what's wrong with stock? Gingerbread/NS is first Android combo I've not felt the desire to use a non-stock rom on yet even after two months.
To the original poster, I'll second what @suhas_sm said, you don't have a nandroid of your stock/rooted system? That should always be the first thing you do after rooting any phone, and the first step in flashing any new rom, ESPECIALLY a new rom that is in alpha/beta status (like CM7).
If you don't have your own nandroid, the development section does have nandroid images of a stock rom you can restore over your phone via clockwork recovery.

I have the stock back up but won't I lose root after I reboot?
I LOOOVE CM roms but CM7 is too buggy for me. Can't wait to use it when it's stable.

I will say I love my stock ROM with the Netarchy Kernal @ 1.2Ghz it is blazing fast. This is the first android phone I have had and damn its great. I don't think i need to go doing new ROMs other than the whole theme option sounds great.

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AOSP to Sense

If I switched from an AOSP Rom to a Sense ROM, should I just flash the new rom? or should I go back to stock, and then flash the sense ROM?
gvsukids said:
If I switched from an AOSP Rom to a Sense ROM, should I just flash the new rom? or should I go back to stock, and then flash the sense ROM?
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You can go directly between the two. Just do a full wipe when changing ROMs.
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Only go back to a stock restore if you really f'ed things up, and then restore another ROM from their....
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gvsukids said:
If I switched from an AOSP Rom to a Sense ROM, should I just flash the new rom? or should I go back to stock, and then flash the sense ROM?
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I'll probably take a beating for saying this...
Just recently I switched from TPGB (AOSP) to AR HD (Sense) with no problem. I had to format to ext4 for ARHD before I flashed, but that was easy enough.
I was on ARHD for a long time, then wanted to try out an AOSP ROM and was using TPGB (which I love!!), but then I wanted to start playing around with the Kingdom lock screen and other Sense 3.0 mods that were available, so now I'm back to ARHD and loving it as well. I will say it's not as snappy as TPGB was, but I've installed Leedroid's kernel on top of it to give me a little more OC ability and it's doing wonderfully!
Wow really!!! First things first most roms state in the install instructions what you need to do. Second you should have asked this in the dev section under ther ROM your interested in. Flashing roms is never the same from rom to rom. You must read the devs instructions.
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Carlrobling said:
Wow really!!! First things first most roms state in the install instructions what you need to do. Second you should have asked this in the dev section under ther ROM your interested in. Flashing roms is never the same from rom to rom. You must read the devs instructions.
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I've never seen a chef tell you that you have to flash back to stock before you flash their ROM. That was the question. It wasn't ROM specific. He wanted to know if you could switch from an AOSP ROM to a Sense ROM without first flashing back to stock. The answer is yes, you can, and the question was asked in the proper place.
homeslice976 said:
I've never seen a chef tell you that you have to flash back to stock before you flash their ROM. That was the question. It wasn't ROM specific. He wanted to know if you could switch from an AOSP ROM to a Sense ROM without first flashing back to stock. The answer is yes, you can, and the question was asked in the proper place.
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Say what you would like. The question was about installing a rom. If you read the instructions on how to install the rom you want then it will tell you how to flash it. Which would have answered his question. To be honest I also don't know a single rom that you have to flash back to stock in order to use a different rom (not saying there isn't one just don't know of any you should read the instructions to be sure your flashing properly). There I answered the question the way you would have liked to see it. Thanks for being the op's voice. Again installing any rom is not the same from rom to rom read my comment before criticizing it (I gave him the correct answer just not the way you wanted to see it). If your interested in a rom read the instruction. And your not the first person to have a problem or question for that matter search search search.
P.S. Since you cant say that flashing every rom is exactly the same then it is a rom specific question.

Stock Rooted Can I Theme?

OK, so I have custom recovery and the Rooted Stock below. Can I theme it at all? If so, should I use metamorph or is there a better option? Or is it a no go and I need to have Weapons or some other custom ROM?
Stock Gingerbread OTA 2.3.3 Rooted
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
ToolPunk said:
OK, so I have custom recovery and the Rooted Stock below. Can I theme it at all? If so, should I use metamorph or is there a better option? Or is it a no go and I need to have Weapons or some other custom ROM?
Stock Gingerbread OTA 2.3.3 Rooted
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748
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You can, if you know how to do it yourself. Other than that why not just flash Weapon or Cm7?
I enjoyed the benifits of a custom ROM on my previous phone but I got so burnt out by constant bugs and instability. I use my phone like its part of me and for it to constantly have an issue of sorts is frustrating. I have another G2X coming that I will test a custom ROM on. Just thought I would see what I could do in the meantime, thank you.
ToolPunk said:
I enjoyed the benifits of a custom ROM on my previous phone but I got so burnt out by constant bugs and instability. I use my phone like its part of me and for it to constantly have an issue of sorts is frustrating. I have another G2X coming that I will test a custom ROM on. Just thought I would see what I could do in the meantime, thank you.
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Yeah I see. But since Weapon is based on the stock ROM it's very stable.
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[Q] Stock ROM I997UCKK3 [2.3.6] stable?

First of all, I am a iphone convert (this week) and bought an Infuse. love the phone and android. I am a noob and have a noob question:
I would love to upgrade to gingerbread and don't want to root. I believe I can do that with the stock ROMs. My question is a stock ROM such as ROM I997UCKK3 [2.3.6] 100% stable with everything working?
I use my phone for business so I can't have calls not come thru or other problems on it.
Any insight is appreciated.
crazysports457 said:
First of all, I am a iphone convert (this week) and bought an Infuse. love the phone and android. I am a noob and have a noob question:
I would love to upgrade to gingerbread and don't want to root. I believe I can do that with the stock ROMs. My question is a stock ROM such as ROM I997UCKK3 [2.3.6] 100% stable with everything working?
I use my phone for business so I can't have calls not come thru or other problems on it.
Any insight is appreciated.
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I believe you
WILL have to root in order to install the rom.
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crazysports457 said:
First of all, I am a iphone convert (this week) and bought an Infuse. love the phone and android. I am a noob and have a noob question:
I would love to upgrade to gingerbread and don't want to root. I believe I can do that with the stock ROMs. My question is a stock ROM such as ROM I997UCKK3 [2.3.6] 100% stable with everything working?
I use my phone for business so I can't have calls not come thru or other problems on it.
Any insight is appreciated.
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I've installed every single stock leak there is (I hate ugly modded roms). KK3 is NOT the way to go. KK4 was just released and currently it's not rooted and runs beautifully. Wifi, bluetooth, GPS, data and phone are all working great. 9 times out of 10 the rooted versions suck anyways because they use a buggy kernal that wasn't meant for it. There's usually some kind of trade off with rooted roms so if you don't care about rooting, grab KK4 and flash with ODIN.
http://hotfile.com/dl/136287854/7d4dc53/SGH-I997_I997UCKK4_ATT.rar.html
this is exactly the type of info I was looking for! Thanks! Is absolutely everything working on the KK4? all the apps and everything?
crazysports457 said:
this is exactly the type of info I was looking for! Thanks! Is absolutely everything working on the KK4? all the apps and everything?
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I've been playing with it all day and I have yet to find any issues. All apps work, no shutdowns, no lagging, no dropped wifi, no data switching, no bluetooth problems...nothing. Definately one step closer to "official".
the custom kernel is usually packaged so people have cwm and dont get in a panic not being able to flash out of the rom the same way they flashed it. if i knew how to repack the initramfs id give a shot at making a more stock kernel with cwm. but unfortunately like the rom chefs here i dont have that knowledge. you can absolutely have kk4 rooted without a rogers based kernel, it just means flashing twice. maybe ill fill that gap since flashing the stock kernel back to the phone is too much for many people to figure out. the phone retains root if you flash the stock kernel. what is going on is there is a script in the custom kernel that copies the su file and simlinks it while the phone boots in an insecure state. once root is there it stays unless you flash the rom. after the phone is rooted the kernel has zero effect on root privledges.

Former Droid X User Needs Help Transitioning

I'm making the transition from my old Droid X to the VZW Galaxy S3, and I have a few questions. The flashing process between these two phones are quite different and perhaps another ex-Droid X user (or just an all around knowledgeable person) could help me out.
1. To my knowledge, we were never able to flash Kernels on the Droid X because of its locked bootloader. So how does Kernel flashing work? Are there certain kernels that only pair with certain roms, or can you flash any kernel you like with any rom? I have a feeling it's the former, as I've already seen kernels categorized i.e. Touchwiz Kernels or CM10 based kernels.
2. With the Droid X, all roms were flashed using CWM. But with this phone that's not always the case right? Some may require a kexec method or even a custom recovery image, correct?
3. I've seen a few roms recommend backing up IMEI / MEID / EFS data before flashing. Is something I should consider doing whenever I flash, just as one would do a nandroid backup?
4. I've seen a few threads mentioning flash count, resetting flash count, etc. Should I be concerned with flash count? If so, why?
5. With the Droid X, before you could flash a rom, you had to make sure the firmware you were on was compatible with whatever rom you were trying out. For example, if you wanted to try cm7 you had to flash over the stock froyo kernel. If you wanted to try miui you had to flash over a stock gingerbread kernel. However, it would seem, with the S3 you can flash any rom (whether it be an ics rom or a jb rom) over stock 4.0.4. Is this correct? Can you flash an ics rom over the top of a jb rom? Or do you always have to revert back to ics stock?
6. Is Odin the Samsung equivalent of rsd lite?
D-meist said:
I'm making the transition from my old Droid X to the VZW Galaxy S3, and I have a few questions. The flashing process between these two phones are quite different and perhaps another ex-Droid X user (or just an all around knowledgeable person) could help me out.
1. To my knowledge, we were never able to flash Kernels on the Droid X because of its locked bootloader. So how does Kernel flashing work? Are there certain kernels that only pair with certain roms, or can you flash any kernel you like with any rom? I have a feeling it's the former, as I've already seen kernels categorized i.e. Touchwiz Kernels or CM10 based kernels.
2. With the Droid X, all roms were flashed using CWM. But with this phone that's not always the case right? Some may require a kexec method or even a custom recovery image, correct?
3. I've seen a few roms recommend backing up IMEI / MEID / EFS data before flashing. Is something I should consider doing whenever I flash, just as one would do a nandroid backup?
4. I've seen a few threads mentioning flash count, resetting flash count, etc. Should I be concerned with flash count? If so, why?
5. With the Droid X, before you could flash a rom, you had to make sure the firmware you were on was compatible with whatever rom you were trying out. For example, if you wanted to try cm7 you had to flash over the stock froyo kernel. If you wanted to try miui you had to flash over a stock gingerbread kernel. However, it would seem, with the S3 you can flash any rom (whether it be an ics rom or a jb rom) over stock 4.0.4. Is this correct? Can you flash an ics rom over the top of a jb rom? Or do you always have to revert back to ics stock?
6. Is Odin the Samsung equivalent of rsd lite?
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1. Flashing kernels has been made as simple as flashing ROMs
2. kexec is outdated since the bootloader got unlocked. You can also still use CWM on this or there's another recovery that people like called TWRP (Download an app called EZ-Recovery from the play store, youll need it to flash any recovery)
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
4. I haven't tripped the flash count. Basically all it is is a way for Verizon to tell if you been f'in with your phone. I Believe that only AOSP/AOKP ROMs can trip it, not stock ROMS
5. It's a bit simpler flashing between ROMs on this phone. Just wipe data/factory reset and flash away. For the most part.
6. Yes it is basically.
Check the guide out in my sig, it'll explain how to do most everything in detail.
Brian Gove said:
1. Flashing kernels has been made as simple as flashing ROMs
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To Elaborate on this just a bit, yes it is as easy as flashing roms but you were correct in saying that there are aosp kernels and there are tw kernels. just make sure the os version (ICS, JB) and the framework (TW, AOSP) match your rom and you are good to go!
Relentless D said:
To Elaborate on this just a bit, yes it is as easy as flashing roms but you were correct in saying that there are aosp kernels and there are tw kernels. just make sure the os version (ICS, JB) and the framework (TW, AOSP) match your rom and you are good to go!
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Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
D-meist said:
Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
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If you are just getting your feet wet with tw roms, you might consider giving Bean's a try. I've been using Build 9 since it dropped and it's smooth.
imo, it's themed just enough to not look like a straight tw rom, the performance is great and the battery life is fantastic as well.
I've tried synergy once or twice and was never quite completely satisfied with it.
D-meist said:
Thanks Brian and Relentless. Going to cut my teeth on an easy TW rom for starters, probably Synergy.
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I haven't run CM or MIUI or any other AOSP ROM on this phone so take this with a grain of salt;
If you want cool stuff and constant bugs/lack of normal features go with the AOSP....
If you want some cool stuff and a nice stable daily driver... go with the TW ROMs. I've been running Synergy since 1.2(or 3 I cant remember lol) and I love it. Everything works on it, it's stable, and it's currently being ported to Jelly Bean so I can't wait for that shtuff. Eschelon and the rest of his team are good about listening to feature suggestions/requests too when they got time so more and more will be added.
Brian Gove said:
I haven't run CM or MIUI or any other AOSP ROM on this phone so take this with a grain of salt;
If you want cool stuff and constant bugs/lack of normal features go with the AOSP....
If you want some cool stuff and a nice stable daily driver... go with the TW ROMs. I've been running Synergy since 1.2(or 3 I cant remember lol) and I love it. Everything works on it, it's stable, and it's currently being ported to Jelly Bean so I can't wait for that shtuff. Eschelon and the rest of his team are good about listening to feature suggestions/requests too when they got time so more and more will be added.
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Relentless D said:
If you are just getting your feet wet with tw roms, you might consider giving Bean's a try. I've been using Build 9 since it dropped and it's smooth.
imo, it's themed just enough to not look like a straight tw rom, the performance is great and the battery life is fantastic as well.
I've tried synergy once or twice and was never quite completely satisfied with it.
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The moral of the story...Try out a few different roms What is amazing for one person might not be for the next. I'm flashing new roms every few days because I always want to see what else is out there.
Relentless D said:
The moral of the story...Try out a few different roms What is amazing for one person might not be for the next. I'm flashing new roms every few days because I always want to see what else is out there.
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Yea I had beans for a little while... I honestly cant remember why I switched. I was just suggesting he stick with the TW ROMs period cuz I dont feel the AOSP ROMs are anywhere near stable enough yet.
Don't want to hijack OP's thread, but do any of you know how to check flash counter?
I will be getting my FOURTH sg3 this week, and this is the first time I will be returning a phone that I had rooted/unlocked/rommed. I'm all back to stock, just want to make sure I don't get a bill for $600.
Kreeker said:
Don't want to hijack OP's thread, but do any of you know how to check flash counter?
I will be getting my FOURTH sg3 this week, and this is the first time I will be returning a phone that I had rooted/unlocked/rommed. I'm all back to stock, just want to make sure I don't get a bill for $600.
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haven't tried it but this is the best I've found searching around real quick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
Brian Gove said:
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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davefields3 said:
How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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I honestly don't know. One of the devs for Synergy ROM said something to the effect its "a weird Samsung reboot code and so the phone automatically restores a bad backup of your IMEI. It's a fluke thing"
It's 100% random when flashing anything I believe.
If u use the synergy Rom to flash it automatically has a script to back up your meid number and stuff. I've flashed synergy official cm10 nightlies without a hitch. Just make sure that u obtain root and unlock the bootloader and flash recovery. Thus far I've had no problems. Btw synergy Rom is the best one out there. Jellywiz is a jb Rom it is awesome but only thing that doesn't work is sms at the present time. If u want to back up ur meid best tool to use is qpst just Google it. Also all in one tool that has been great for me unlocking obtaining root and stuff is Verizon gs3 casual tool. In order to use that tool u mist have java se framework which u can find at the java website. Any questions feel free to shoot me a message! Good luck!
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chrisharper9643 said:
If u use the synergy Rom to flash it automatically has a script to back up your meid number and stuff. I've flashed synergy official cm10 nightlies without a hitch. Just make sure that u obtain root and unlock the bootloader and flash recovery. Thus far I've had no problems. Btw synergy Rom is the best one out there. Jellywiz is a jb Rom it is awesome but only thing that doesn't work is sms at the present time. If u want to back up ur meid best tool to use is qpst just Google it. Also all in one tool that has been great for me unlocking obtaining root and stuff is Verizon gs3 casual tool. In order to use that tool u mist have java se framework which u can find at the java website. Any questions feel free to shoot me a message! Good luck!
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Just to clarify. Synergy is a stock tw based rom and CM10 is well a cm based rom. Two different monsters and roms entirely.
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U r right but both can be flashed the same way
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davefields3 said:
Brian Gove said:
3. Losing IMEI is a royal paiin in the arse, but it's rare. Either way you want to back it up. I believe the guide on how to do so is in the Development Forum.
How "rare" is it to lose the IMEI after flashing? And is losing your IMEI a possibility flashing any ROM or just certain ones like CM10 or AOSP, or are TW and Stock roms susceptible to this as well?
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I found this thread which looks like the Synergy guys made a script to backup IMEI. I gave it a go and was succesful in backing it up. Seemed much easier than the QPST method. Don't know if it will actually restore, but hopefully I'll never have to find out.
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Custom STOCK ROM

Firstly, I'm not sure is it right section since it is not "development" but simply ROM cleanup, so Mods please move this thread to whatever appropriate section if needed.
When I started using this phone I was looking for clean, junkless stock ROM and I couldn't find any (there are variations on custom ROMs that resemble the stock one, but not the actual stock ROMs with junk removed, or at least I haven't found one). Finally I learned how to root my phone and I did it myself, but for long time I couldn't find cure nor reason for the small but annoying problem described here. Later I have found out how to fix it, and now I have pretty good stock ROM with all the "custom" junk apps and outdated apps removed. I am using it myself and I have no problems whatsoever with it.
I thought I can share my recovery backup of this custom stock ROM if anyone else is interested in it?
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Firstly, I'm not sure is it right section since it is not "development" but simply ROM cleanup, so Mods please move this thread to whatever appropriate section if needed.
When I started using this phone I was looking for clean, junkless stock ROM and I couldn't find any (there are variations on custom ROMs that resemble the stock one, but not the actual stock ROMs with junk removed, or at least I haven't found one). Finally I learned how to root my phone and I did it myself, but for long time I couldn't find cure nor reason for the small but annoying problem described here. Later I have found out how to fix it, and now I have pretty good stock ROM with all the "custom" junk apps and outdated apps removed. I am using it myself and I have no problems whatsoever with it.
I thought I can share my recovery backup of this custom stock ROM if anyone else is interested in it?
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not trying to shoot you down, but recovery backup sharing isn't recommended if i remember correctly
anitgandhi said:
not trying to shoot you down, but recovery backup sharing isn't recommended if i remember correctly
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Just curious why isn't it?
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Ide really like to try it out...im running miktouch stock its nice
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MT4GS said:
Firstly, I'm not sure is it right section since it is not "development" but simply ROM cleanup, so Mods please move this thread to whatever appropriate section if needed.
When I started using this phone I was looking for clean, junkless stock ROM and I couldn't find any (there are variations on custom ROMs that resemble the stock one, but not the actual stock ROMs with junk removed, or at least I haven't found one). Finally I learned how to root my phone and I did it myself, but for long time I couldn't find cure nor reason for the small but annoying problem described here. Later I have found out how to fix it, and now I have pretty good stock ROM with all the "custom" junk apps and outdated apps removed. I am using it myself and I have no problems whatsoever with it.
I thought I can share my recovery backup of this custom stock ROM if anyone else is interested in it?
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Which version of the stock ROM are you basing this upon? Miktouch 0.7 is pretty much a cleaned up stock ROM, the last one that was released by HTC/T-Mobile (1.63.531.2). It still has some of the T-Mobile apps but they can easily be deleted.
Fuzi0719 said:
Which version of the stock ROM are you basing this upon? Miktouch 0.7 is pretty much a cleaned up stock ROM, the last one that was released by HTC/T-Mobile (1.63.531.2). It still has some of the T-Mobile apps but they can easily be deleted.
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I didn't knew Miktouch is stock ROM (just modified/cleaned)
Well then it's probably same/similiar and there's no point.
1.63.531.2.710RD
with kernel 2.6.35.13-gf3a1982... 2012 Feb 03
MT4GS said:
I didn't knew Miktouch is stock ROM (just modified/cleaned)
Well then it's probably same/similiar and there's no point.
1.63.531.2.710RD
with kernel 2.6.35.13-gf3a1982... 2012 Feb 03
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Yeah, that's the same as Miktouch 0.7. There's a few optional patches for Miktouch, as well: Liquid Smooth Rosie, Depaginated App Drawer, No Scrolling Cache, No Recent Apps or Genius Button patches.

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