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cant decide which rom to try help!!!!!

i just got the captivate i rooted it today im a newbie to all of this so im still unsure of everything im doing i dont care about bricking it. i was reading the "how to load a custom rom" and im at the step where is says (please flash the stock kernel through ODIN first then do our How To Root procedure then come back to this to continue) im unclear about flashing the stock kernal
and what custom rom you guys use and why you like it

Simple, Cognition.. It is all in one package and it is very simple to install but it just seems to work.
Only other ROM I will be going to is cyanogen if and when it is released.
Um and I might be wrong here but I thought Odin was only needed if you had to revert back to a stock ROM before flashing?
Bah damn swype putting words in my mouth again....
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Ok I will check it out I think I I'm gonna check it out
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Yea I would go cognition. It is what I run.
Very snappy and with the voodoo lagfix it is extremely fast.
I also reccomend the hsupa kernal if you dont use a bluetooth headset.
And 2.1.5 has proved to give me a very decent battery life.

so if i want to try a different rom i have to flashback to the stock att rom then on to the new rom?

fiveoneooo said:
Yea I would go cognition. It is what I run.
Very snappy and with the voodoo lagfix it is extremely fast.
I also reccomend the hsupa kernal if you dont use a bluetooth headset.
And 2.1.5 has proved to give me a very decent battery life.
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i dont want to sound like a dump ass but what is hsupa kernal and i have to use a bluetooth headset at work

jamrck said:
i dont want to sound like a dump ass but what is hsupa kernal and i have to use a bluetooth headset at work
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The HSUPA Kernel enables HSUPA data speeds on the Captivate, which AT&T has crippled on the phone. It's discussed at length in several posts in the developer section.
From what I have read, one of the bugs in installing it is that you lose Bluetooth, so it would be a non-starter for you.

Flash Player for Captivate

Okay so I know I'm a newbie but... Can anyone tell me how to get Flash on my At&t Captivate? I know 2.2 has been released and but apparently I need a step by step guide even though I've been doing this for a long time (maybe I'm suffering from altzhiemers).

Search the app market for "flash 10.1". Install.

You need to have android 2.2 for Captivate. Then search "Flash Player" on the Android Market. I don't recall if the app is pre-installed on the 2.2 Captivate.
Good luck. Click on that link... I wrote up that guide... it's fairly easy to follow. Just remember to take it step by step and follow each one exactly. Download mode, have odin open, then plug in, and flash away!

Flash player requires Android 2.2 which hasn't been released for Captivate yet.

foxbat121 said:
Flash player requires Android 2.2 which hasn't been released for Captivate yet.
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unless you have 2.2 rom lol

justdrew said:
unless you have 2.2 rom lol
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You mean beta ROM with lots of bugs.

foxbat121 said:
You mean beta ROM with lots of bugs.
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LOTS of bugs

degenerazn said:
LOTS of bugs
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I am running froyo on my captivate and I have never encountered a bug.

Pikabob said:
I am running froyo on my captivate and I have never encountered a bug.
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thats because you are not as LEET as the ones that all post there are too many bugs to run it....
i have been running FroYo since about 3 hours after designgears dropped the leak on us....there have been a few quarks that we have had to work out, but any BUG that some people think thats there, is easily remedied with a little looking around on the forums.
you know, its the cool thing to be against the FroYo movement....

lol my wife is running froyo with no issiues

Pikabob said:
I am running froyo on my captivate and I have never encountered a bug.
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Same here..
Also, OP, I've found the absolute easiest way to get FroYo/root/lagfix-all in one is with Cognitions Odin thing. It flashes the latest version of Cognition and take only about five minutes. Extremely simple. Almost as easy as the Odin3 one-click stock recovery thing. And obviously with Android 2.2, you can use install flash from the market and use it to your heart's content

JI6 leaked Foryo bugs are well doucmented in a dedicated thread. You probably rarely use your phone if you don't encounter any bugs.
Yes, I'm aware there are ways to work around some bugs (like replace the email client with the older email client) but that doesn't mean the ROM has no bugs. And my phone still need reboot at least twice a week to make it funtion correctly. Otherwise, the phone just slows and lags and some menus just show random stuff.
Even Samsung has to pull its *official* JP6/JPM release in Europe to fix the various issues.

foxbat121 said:
JI6 leaked Foryo bugs are well doucmented in a dedicated thread. You probably rarely use your phone if you don't encounter any bugs.
Yes, I'm aware there are ways to work around some bugs (like replace the email client with the older email client) but that doesn't mean the ROM has no bugs. And my phone still need reboot at least twice a week to make it funtion correctly. Otherwise, the phone just slows and lags and some menus just show random stuff.
Even Samsung has to pull its *official* JP6/JPM release in Europe to fix the various issues.
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so why not use a rom based on it that a kind dev has already tweaked for us?
not use my phone much??? LMFAO!
its my work phone (email and cell), personal phone (email and cell), gps (yes mine works), handheld game device, and toy.....
yeah, thats not using it at all....
most of the roms out there based on the leaked froyos are very stable and good enough for daily use.

You lost me there, bro. What the buggy Froyo leak from AT&T has anything to do with custom ROMs? I'm not anti-Froyo. Just stating the fact that current leaked beta ROM from Samsung is very buggy.
I said the leak Froyo ROM is buggy. And you said it is not because you're running a custom ROM ?? WTF? It's like saying I'm running a Nexus One with Froyo w/o problem hence there should never be buggy Froyo out there for any phone.

foxbat121 said:
You lost me there, bro. What the buggy Froyo leak from AT&T has anything to do with custom ROMs? I'm not anti-Froyo. Just stating the fact that current leaked beta ROM from Samsung is very buggy.
I said the leak Froyo ROM is buggy. And you said it is not because you're running a custom ROM ?? WTF? It's like saying I'm running a Nexus One with Froyo w/o problem hence there should never be buggy Froyo out there for any phone.
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LOL....and i said that the 'bugs' can easily be remedied by looking around on the forums. the custom rom came into play because all the tweaks have already been done for you and do not require you to apply anything special to rid the 'bugs'.
honestly, the bugs that are being claimed are very minute, and dont warrant a blanket statement like, 'Stay away from Froyo for our phones!!!111 its evil!!!111'
reading comprehension is a skill.

foxbat121 said:
You mean beta ROM with lots of bugs.
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That's correct. Lots of bugs, but I still won't flash back to 2.1. Just waiting for a full release of the new Cognition.

Ok guys questions answered. We are not gonna get into the Custom vs stock rom debate again, there are plenty of threads for that
I deem this thread closed

Stock Froyo or Gingerbread ROMs?

Do any stock Froyo or Gingerbread ROMS exist for the Captivate? I see all of these aftermarket ROMS posted but I don't like all the themes or added programs they come with. I just want a stock ROM.

There is AT&T stock 2.2 and Rogers stock 2.2 depending on which Captivate you have.
2.3 has not been released for the Galaxy S. It was leaked for the i9000, but that ROM isn't working yet. The only real 2.3 ROM for the Captivate is CM7 which is not yet stable.

Clyzm said:
There is AT&T stock 2.2 and Rogers stock 2.2 depending on which captivate you have.
2.3 has not been released for the Galaxy S. It was leaked for the i9000, but that ROM isn't working yet. The only real 2.3 ROM for the Captivate is CM7 which is not yet stable.
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It is quite stable from what I heard, there's just a few bugs
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goob1284 said:
It is quite stable from what I heard, there's just a few bugs
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Stable from a programmer's standpoint isn't the same thing as stable from a user's standpoint. CM7 is not yet stable.

goob1284 said:
It is quite stable from what I heard, there's just a few bugs
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Yeah, I'm running CM7 right now and it's stable, but definitely still has some bugs. Feature wise, it seems packed, but some of the bugs I am experiencing are QUITE irritating for daily use.

Dante04SRT said:
but some of the bugs I am experiencing are QUITE irritating for daily use.
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Which is exactly why it's not a stable ROM yet, in addition to a few things under the hood.
But let's not get too off topic, the OP wants stock ROMs.

mintyfresh26 said:
Do any stock Froyo or Gingerbread ROMS exist for the Captivate? I see all of these aftermarket ROMS posted but I don't like all the themes or added programs they come with. I just want a stock ROM.
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Seriously? If you want a stock ROM then just use the one available from your carrier. Cognition 4 is as close as a custom ROM can be to stock, but minus the bloatware and it has some minor performance tweaks. This place isn't in the business of creating "stock" ROMs.

For stock like feel, i'd recommend one of two roms. Andromeda 1.2 (unthemed) or Cog 4.1. Andro is based off of the Armani Captivate 2.2 and the devs did a fantastic job of making it somewhat minimal and still has all the goodies. They also added a few other nice touches. Cog is based off of official ATT 2.2 with the bloatware gone and lagfix installed. It is also very nice but didn't hold my attention the way Andro does. As was already mentioned CM7 is ok for people that know how to trouble shoot their phones and can deal with the bugs. It's NOT meant for people new to their phones and flashing.

Miami_Son said:
Seriously? If you want a stock ROM then just use the one available from your carrier. Cognition 4 is as close as a custom ROM can be to stock, but minus the bloatware and it has some minor performance tweaks. This place isn't in the business of creating "stock" ROMs.
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AT&T hasn't pushed an update for the Captivate. Even if they did it would still be loaded with crapware that slow the phone down.
So, it's impossible to get a stock rom easily?

mintyfresh26 said:
AT&T hasn't pushed an update for the Captivate. Even if they did it would still be loaded with crapware that slow the phone down.
So, it's impossible to get a stock rom easily?
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The update came from Samsung and not ATT. The easiest way to get a "stock rom" is to use keis to do the update. Yes it will come with all the bloat from ATT. If you dont want the bloat then there are ways to remove them, gone over many times in the forum which you would have found had you done a search.
As for Stock Gingerbread roms, well to be honest we will most likely not see an ATT stock gingerbread as the 2.2 update is most likely the only one we will get through official channels

mintyfresh26 said:
AT&T hasn't pushed an update for the Captivate. Even if they did it would still be loaded with crapware that slow the phone down.
So, it's impossible to get a stock rom easily?
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What you just described IS THE STOCK ROM.
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The most up to date stock rom you can get is 2.2 from Samsung Kies which can be downloaded here: samsung.com/us/support/downloads/SGH-I897ZKAATT.
This also includes the usb drivers. Just connect your phone to your computer and update.

Sorry cant post the actual link I'm new

adm226 said:
The most up to date stock rom you can get is 2.2 from Samsung Kies which can be downloaded here: samsung.com/us/support/downloads/SGH-I897ZKAATT.
This also includes the usb drivers. Just connect your phone to your computer and update.
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Install 2.2 using info in quoted post
root using super one click
DL Ti Backup from the market
Remove all the AT&T/Samesung Apps that you do not want
Profit

Here is a guide that pretty much tells you how to do almost anything on your captivate. Only a couple things like flashing a custom rom are excluded.
Once again, I can't post real links cause I'm new.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761819
Just download the pdf.

mintyfresh26 said:
AT&T hasn't pushed an update for the Captivate. Even if they did it would still be loaded with crapware that slow the phone down.
So, it's impossible to get a stock rom easily?
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Any easier than Kies? No. Dude, you're so far out of the loop you're oblong.

Miami_Son said:
Any easier than Kies? No. Dude, you're so far out of the loop you're oblong.
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I'm not sure mintyfresh26 knew about samsung kies at the time of this post. It's not a big deal.

He should just install Cognition 4. It's probably what he wants.

adm226 said:
I'm not sure mintyfresh26 knew about samsung kies at the time of this post. It's not a big deal.
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Sounds like there's a lot he doesn't know about.

Clyzm said:
Stable from a programmer's standpoint isn't the same thing as stable from a user's standpoint. CM7 is not yet stable.
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its actually quite stable. and im not a programmer. it just has a few bugs from my experience but what rom doesnt?

[Q] How to choose a ROM?

This is what I call a "high class problem". With so many ROMs to choose from, how does a noob like me decide. Aside from stability, we all probably have different wants and needs.
Can anyone who's checked out the majority of the available ROMs give the rest of us a rundown on the pros and cons of each ROM?
For myself, I'm looking for:
1. Basic
2. Reversible
3. No known issues with wifi, sms, battery drain, ciq, marketplace, etc.
Which one should I pic?

Budge72 said:
This is what I call a "high class problem". With so many ROMs to choose from, how does a noob like me decide. Aside from stability, we all probably have different wants and needs.
Can anyone who's checked out the majority of the available ROMs give the rest of us a rundown on the pros and cons of each ROM?
For myself, I'm looking for:
1. Basic
2. Reversible
3. No known issues with wifi, sms, battery drain, ciq, marketplace, etc.
Which one should I pic?
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basically, you need to try them out and see for yourself.
the problem is, there will be another one up soon for you to try out

Like u said. To each his own. None of the roms here have major issues that I have flashed. All work and run well only issue is if there using da G's kernel which has Sod issues. Other than that flash away bruh.
Only u can prevent forest fires.....so choose well bruh. LOL
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the2rrell said:
Like u said. To each his own. None of the roms here have major issues that I have flashed. All work and run well only issue is if there using da G's kernel which has Sod issues. Other than that flash away bruh.
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Which ones don't use Da G's kernel? I've read about something called a "stock-ish" kernel.

Budge72 said:
Which ones don't use Da G's kernel? I've read about something called a "stock-ish" kernel.
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you can change kernels easier than changing roms. even if a rom has his kernel, you can flash whatever kernel you like in place of it....

Pirateghost said:
you can change kernels easier than changing roms. even if a rom has his kernel, you can flash whatever kernel you like in place of it....
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Other than doing a complete Nandroid backup, is there anyway to just backup your current kernel prior to flashing a new kernel? SGS KERNEL FLASHER doesn't work on the Skyrocket, and i'd like to backup my stock kernel in case I need to reflash it.
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Pirateghost said:
you can change kernels easier than changing roms. even if a rom has his kernel, you can flash whatever kernel you like in place of it....
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hey Pirateghost didn't you say you got one rom in beta that you are working on????? If yes when is beta coming out?

appdroid said:
hey Pirateghost didn't you say you got one rom in beta that you are working on????? If yes when is beta coming out?
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its close. if i have time this weekend you will see something drop. i have a few more tweaks i want to do before i consider it ready. internally, im already up to beta8, lol. i hope to have beta10 release as an RC1 for everyone.

From what I seen so far I seen no reason to try them though somebody has to or they never get fully debugged.
Some of the ROMs are AT&T only ..... sorry got SGH-I727R
Some of them do have Rogers ROMs but I read of Sleep of Death and losing LTE connection..... sorry too buggy and I NEED LTE or I would of got the Galaxy Nexus.
Finally what I really want is ICS and NOT ICS themed ROMs
None of them are for me but I check everyday when a ICS ROM comes out I will try it.
Finally I recommend you NEVER try Roms if you are not sure that you can restore.
I have backuped my ROMs, Apps and Data, APNs I am 95% certain I can recover from anything.
For that other 5% I have Odin and the orginal Rogers ROM

Just to agree with everyone else, you've got to try them out. There's no harm in it as long as you've done your nandroid back up, you're pretty safe when it comes to reverting back to your previous ROM and settings.
Reading the features and change logs for each of them helps alot... but it still doesn't give you a full grasp of what it has to offer until you flash and test it.

AT&T official gingerbread for Captivate discussion

I am opening this thread to discuss the new official release from AT&T and Samsung. Details can be found here.
I'm not sure why discussion rooting was a reason to close a thread, but I guess a overzealous mod is better than no mod.

I hate to burst your bubble but there's already an active thread about the official AT&T Gingerbread release.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437947

I am not sure how much needs to be discussed. It is the same rom that was leaked back in 11/16/2011. Developers have done some amazing stuff with the Rom so far. All that is left for them to do really is add BLN and voodoo color to the kernel. I am not sure if having the source will do anything more for the Rom themselves.
FYI - Mod don't like ppl reopening closed threads.

yes I was active on that thread. It was locked by a mod because people started to discuss how to root the new release. zergRush does not work on it.

popfan said:
I am not sure how much needs to be discussed. It is the same rom that was leaked back in 11/16/2011. Developers have done some amazing stuff with the Rom so far. All that is left for them to do really is add BLN and voodoo color to the kernel. I am not sure if having the source will do anything more for the Rom themselves.
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Do we know yet that it is bit for bit the same?
Does anyone have an Odin or Heimdall compatible version of the ROM?

stoobie-doo said:
Do we know yet that it is bit for bit the same?
Does anyone have an Odin or Heimdall compatible version of the ROM?
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Those are the two big questions I have too.

That last thread was sure cut short, but i have a question regarding kies mini. Im currently running the leaked UCKK4 Stock, rooted, and bloatfree; will i be able to upgrade with kies mini?

gbalwing said:
That last thread was sure cut short, but i have a question regarding kies mini. Im currently running the leaked UCKK4 Stock, rooted, and bloatfree; will i be able to upgrade with kies mini?
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I had the exact type of rom running on my phone. Mini kies told me I was already running the latest rom. So, I did one click back to KB2 then used mini kies.

Ah, my apologies then.

I'll throw a bone out there, Fugu Root. Nuf said. Interesting enough tether manager likes to fc when you have debug enabled along with the usb connected.

c0ldburn3r said:
I'll throw a bone out there, Fugu Root. Nuf said. Interesting enough tether manager likes to fc when you have debug enabled along with the usb connected.
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I also had Tethering manage FC on me, but only right after I flashed it on the first reboot. I have not seen it FC again. I am very familiar with the Fugu kernel swap and think it great method, but my issue that I don't have a source of the kies released KK4 kernel. Do you know how to gernerate or extract an ODIN flashable kernel from the running image?

I'm running Cyanogenmod kang build 7.2 right now but I gotta ask is it worth going to stock gingerbread? How stable is it? I'll be honest I miss some of the touchwiz apps, but IMO the stock froyo rom sucked. At the very least I'd probably root and remove the AT&T BS, but IMO The froyo rom ran slower and buggier than the stock eclair rom! I really just want everyone's general opinion of it. Its a tough call. I got my phone running pretty stable with Cyanogenmod right now and its out of warrenty anyway so it might not even be worth my time anyway.

nbarsotti said:
I also had Tethering manage FC on me, but only right after I flashed it on the first reboot. I have not seen it FC again. I am very familiar with the Fugu kernel swap and think it great method, but my issue that I don't have a source of the kies released KK4 kernel. Do you know how to gernerate or extract an ODIN flashable kernel from the running image?
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Check the KK4 leak thread for the tar.

No one has confirmed that the KK4 leak is exactly the same of the offical KK4. That is my only hesitation. I would like to be sure that I am running the AT&T KK4 release

Cor-master said:
I'm running Cyanogenmod kang build 7.2 right now but I gotta ask is it worth going to stock gingerbread? How stable is it? I'll be honest I miss some of the touchwiz apps, but IMO the stock froyo rom sucked. At the very least I'd probably root and remove the AT&T BS, but IMO The froyo rom ran slower and buggier than the stock eclair rom! I really just want everyone's general opinion of it. Its a tough call. I got my phone running pretty stable with Cyanogenmod right now and its out of warrenty anyway so it might not even be worth my time anyway.
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Well the camera is a heck of a lot better the AOSP. It's worth it, even though it's still RFS, it's snappy and way better the KB1 ever was.

Yeah speaking of rfs I'd definitely be putting a lag fix on. I might look into it, and yes I agree about the camera, in fact honestly the hate against touchwiz is unwarranted. All the touchwiz apps are better, even the launcher is better than vanilla android one(not counting cyanogenmod that uses adw, which is one if the best). Only thing I did notice is without touchwiz the rom is faster, so obviously it adds bulk but the apps are so much better!
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I never did get slacker radio and maps working at the same time on kk4. Even with tweaks I mentioned in another thread, slacker started dying after about a day of use. No problems like that with cm7. Thats why I am mostly interested if they actually made any changes from the leak. I doubt it though.

Ginger Bread is here
Im updating currently to official ginger bread

Didn't you notice that Samsung & at&t dropped lots of original Gingerbread features? like the CRT screen-off animation... I can't find it on the new official GB update one.

Is CarrierIQ still present in the official build? Curious. It was in the leak.
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