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USB-Host I miss it - you to???

Hi,
I miss the USB-Host on all of our slick new Devices!
Only the very BIG HTC has an USB-Host.
The only "small" WM5, GSM,GPS and USB-Host Device ever made was the FJS Loox T830.
I think this is not right! What's your opinion?
An Usb-Host gives you endless possiblities!
BR
Daniel

yeah..
but there's really no way to do it?

yes, definately would be great to have!!

Yes i am agree with you

What's the point? A WM device can't provide enough power down the USB port to power most devices, so you'll have to use a powered hub anyway. Unless you WANT to kill the battery in 10 minutes flat.
Need a keyboard? Get a BT one.
Need a mouse? Get a BT one, though why you need a mouse when you have a touchscreen device, I don't know...
Need a memory stick? Get one that takes mini-SD cards. I have one, they're very useful!
Need a printer? Why? You've got some printer drivers and a print option in your WM programs? Didn't think so...
Wifi dongle? Get a device with wifi built in...
Etc etc...

my mine use case is Various FTDI based Hardware to Control or Measure stuff.
e.g UniLog. one of the things we did:
http://blog.lieberlieber.com/2009/0...-flying-uniglide-a-solution-for-hang-gliding/
and some more

FloatingFatMan said:
...Need a memory stick? Get one that takes mini-SD cards. I have one, they're very useful!
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What happens if the SD slot is behind the battery?
What happens if the memory stick isn't yours
I found it extremley usefull on my Toshiba G900. I would often have work colleages giving me memory sticks out "in the field" (actually a very big automation site in Langley - HWDC) and ask me if I could email/keep something for them during our integration testing. I also took photos of stuff and put it straight onto there memory sticks.
So you might not see any reason to have it but, some of us do.
edit: not to mention the really coool - when they said "oh yeah I have that on memory stick but my latops back in the office", you can imagine how I could act all geek then and say "you got it on you? is it in that Excel file? Let me have a look now mate"

doesn't tv-out is a usb host question??
if it is so i like it .
i would really like to have tv-out on my htc wizard

FloatingFatMan said:
What's the point? A WM device can't provide enough power down the USB port to power most devices, so you'll have to use a powered hub anyway. Unless you WANT to kill the battery in 10 minutes flat.
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First, this is untrue. And if you think using your wifi or BT connection in a "constant" way doesn't blow through your battery, you've never done it
Second, I want to plug in an ultrasound probe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MNQmD_Jtco
Can't do that with BT (too slow) or WiFi (too power hungry and I cannot tolerate unknown latency or dropped frames in by wireless medical device connection).
USB Host is terribly useful and not only for the "obvious" things listed. Let the users/developers find interesting uses. They are out there!

Kinpad I600 (7" Capacative)

Anyone got/getting one of these???
Hope to see 2.3 on it eventually
Android 2.2 Froyo
Built in 3G WCDMA UMTS/HSDPA (2100MHz), GSM/EDGE (850,900,1800,1900MHz)
Make phone Calls
Receive phone calls (use like a regular phone)
Sens SMS, Receive SMS
Bluetooth 2.1+EDR (ability to make calls), file transfer,
Microphone support
Freescale IMX515 800MHz ARM Cortex A8
Gsensor
Light Sensor
Front Fascing camera
Built in GPS SiRF3
USB port
Standard 30-pin port (supported by many devices)
Wi-Fi (802.11b/g)
Excellent Ebook reader
Internet browsing, HD Video, Lnline Music, Map, Real-time communications
Flash 10.1, access all flash websites and online flash games
7" size perfect to bring with you anywhere
Slim body
3.5mm audio jack
HDMI out
USB port
Built in Battery 4200mAh
The device is $399 from merimobiles
http://www.merimobiles.com/Kinpad_I600_7_Android_2_2_Flash_10_1_Capacitive_p/meri0540.htm
If the link is not allowed please delete (this is not meant to be an advert lol)

It will be available on end of december
I am really looking forward getting this device...
It is almost Samsung Galaxy Tab...

I just discovered this last night and am going to get one as soon as it's available.
I bought a Tmo Tab first day they were out but devs could never get phone enabled w/o losing 3G... so I took it back.
Gonna get one of these instead.

roy8846 said:
Anyone got/getting one of these???
Hope to see 2.3 on it eventually
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The device is $399 from merimobiles
http://www.merimobiles.com/Kinpad_I600_7_Android_2_2_Flash_10_1_Capacitive_p/meri0540.htm
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Did you ordered?

I have one of these. Got it late January. So far so good. Works on at&t 3g not t-mobile. The device handles pretty good. Just got an update from manufacturer that fixed a couple problems with 3g. Roots withsuper1click or z4root. There is athread on androidtablets.net.

Ive one identic type
Hi folks
Ive bought An identic type of device.Its called MY-PAD T60.It has the same technical aspecs like kinpad i600.
Heres the Homepage: www.my-pad.nl
Ive bought it in germany at LIDL online for 279 Euros.The package includes: Device T60,"MY-PEN" Touchpen,Grey carrieing Bag,USB to PC Cable,USB Charger,30 PIN to USB adapter for USB Sticks or smth.
You could find some NEW MY-PAD T60 Devices on EBAY Germany for 115 Euros.Damn it,ive Payd the full price:crying:
Greetings

Building Andriod phone into laptop?

The other day, i was sitting with my trusty Thinkpad T60p and my Galaxy S and suddenly i got this idea... i want to build a Android phone into the palmrest! So now i'm just throwing thoughts out the get myself started.
It would be great to have everything Conky provides now, calendar, email and other stuff, placed on a small LCD on the laptop.
So i need to get a spare palmrest for the laptop of eBay, in case the idea doesn't really work out, and a Android phone i can play around with. It seems as Windows Mobile phones are cheaper 2nd. hand, and as i don't really need the phone part of the phone to work, it might be the way to go. So what WinMo phones are good enough to run Android to get: booting into Android without user interaction, touchscreen and hardware buttons, maybe wifi and 3G, but only it it's good enough to provide a access point, USB net and Android 2.x?
What native Android phones should i look for? I think i'll need the hardware buttons to be on a separate PCB, a small (2,8" to 3.2") screen. CPU and memory isn't really that important. Also the LCD and main PCB needs to be quite flat. If i had brought a screwdriver to school, i could have measured just how flat.
Is there a launcher that can do everything in landscape mode?
Have anyone done something similar to this? Build a Android phone into anything else?
I need to modify the battery circuit to make to phone run of the laptop battery, as i don't think i can find internal room for it and connect the USB port in the phone to the internal USB header where my fingerprint reader isn't going to be anymore.

Triumph HDMI out - to HDMI touchscreen?

I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with Android phones (with HDMI out) and connecting them to a larger touchscreen (rather than a TV), and can the touchscreen then control the smartphone via the HDMI cable?

I should probably mention that my end goal here is to drop a 10" HDMI touchscreen in the car, and each time I enter the car I simply connect the phone to the touchscreen and then close the phone in the glovebox, basically using the touchscreen to remotely view and control all the phone features.

I'm afraid that HDMI does not support touch screen input. The type of touch screens you are referring to use either a USB or Serial (RS-232) connection to the computer, in addition to the video interface, to provide Touch Screen input. While I'm sure with a little digging there might be something like this to control your phone through a computer (My Mobiler allowed for this on Windows Mobile 5-6.5 phones through either USB or Bluetooth), I don't see being able to do this without a computer (or carputer) as it was, being involved.

So basically, the Triumph would need a USB host to get it done?

KryptoNyte39 said:
So basically, the Triumph would need a USB host to get it done?
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Yeah, my guess would be that that would be the minimum requirement, as well as obviously some sort of driver support for what would essentially be "Mouse input".

I Think your best bet would be, if you could find an old netbook. One with a touch screen, you could use it as the link to you Phone. I know of 3 programs that let you output your Android phone to a computer monitor. All work on the MT and one lets you use your mouse and keyboard on the MT.
You can find the one I use here.
And if you want to try and make your on touch screen for a netbook take a look at this link. would make for a fun project.
For the other programs have a look at Ashot and [email protected]. All work with my MT.

Thanks, folks. I was kind of eyeballing this thing;
http://www.mo-co-so.com/Double-DIN-Lilliput-669GL-70NP-C-T-7-Touch-Screen-p/mcs-lil-669-dd.htm
But based on what's working right now, the Lilliput screen would still only be a display, and I'd still be controlling it from the phone somehow.
I'm not a programmer I'm afraid, but based on the current state of car stereos, I'm amazed Android hasn't progressed into this market rapidly. Let's face it, Pioneer's current $1000+ head units have just a fraction of the capabilities of my $129 Optimus V.
I considered an Android based head unit, but I think the better path is to be able to tether to the phone when you enter the car in some fasion, and then just simply use the larger in-car display to view the Android device and control it from the touchscreen. In this fashion, I don't need yet another Android device, and the in-car unit is basically without much logic. I'm afraid we might be a couple years out yet.

Yeah, such a panel like that wouldn't really work all that well for your application. The aspect ratio of the panel isn't ideal, and it appears the touchscreen works off a serial interface. Even worse, it is a resistive panel (which is leaps and bounds worse than the capacitive touch panels we're used to on our modern phones). Overall I think even if you did wire something up the experience would be fairly lack luster.

Todd42 said:
I Think your best bet would be, if you could find an old netbook. One with a touch screen, you could use it as the link to you Phone. I know of 3 programs that let you output your Android phone to a computer monitor. All work on the MT and one lets you use your mouse and keyboard on the MT.
You can find the one I use here.
And if you want to try and make your on touch screen for a netbook take a look at this link. would make for a fun project.
For the other programs have a look at Ashot and [email protected]. All work with my MT.
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Todd, I hear what you're sayin'. I actually have an old netbook that I hopped up with an SSD. I'm wondering about stowing the netbook, rigging up some kind of start button, and then forming a MIMO monitor into the dash ...
http://www.mimomonitors.com/
(just throwing some ideas around in case it spurs another person's inspiration)

[q] jlab pro-7

I recently brought a cheap android tablet (JLAB PRO-7) from Staples on Black Friday. Has anyone flashed a rom or did anything with this particular tablet?
I tried rooting it even though it came partly rooted and now evey time it is cut off or it reboots it is back to as if it came straight out the box. Do any one have any idea on a fix for this?
PRODUCT DETAILS
Basic Tablet Offers Reliable Internet and Email
The Jlab 7-Inch Tablet comes with 8GB of storage, plus an expansion slot for an addition 32GB of microSD memory. It uses a dual-core Cortex A7 1.2 GHz Processor and 512MB RAM. The .3 MP front-facing camera makes video chats easy, and integrated speakers provide clear sound for voice, video, or music. The tablet runs on a rechargeable lithium battery, which lasts 3 to 4 hours on a full charge.
Allwinner Boxchip A23 Dual Core Cortex A7 1.2GHz Processor
7” display, 1024 x 600 resolution
512MB DDR3 system memory
8GB with micro SD slot for up to 32GB additional storage
Webcam: 0.3MP Front Facing Camera
Integrated speakers
XP/Vista/Win7/Win8 & Mac OS 10.4 or later
Android™ 4.4 KitKat
Handles Movies, Music, and Email All in One Place
Watch movies in widescreen format, listen to your favorite songs, surf the web, and check email, all from one device. A microSD expansion slot supports up to 32GB of additional storage.
Front-Facing Camera for Video Calls
The front-facing 0.3 MP camera and integrated speakers make video calls easy.
Package Contents
JLab Pro-7 7-Inch Tablet, 8GB (JLAB PRO-7), charger, and user manual.
SPECIFICATIONS
Tablet Screen Size (Inches) 7
Tablet Resolution 1024 x 600
Tablet Processor Details Allwinner Boxchip A23 Dual Core Cortex
Tablet Processor Speed 1.2GHz
Tablet Memory Size Details 8GB
Tablet Memory Expandable 32GB (w/ Micros SD slot)
Tablet RAM 512MB DDR3
Tablet Operating System Android
Audio Details Integrated Speakers
Camera 0.3MP Front Facing Camera
Battery Life Filter 3-4 hours
Battery 2400mAh Li-Polymer Battery

Glad someone else is looking to root JLAB also!
I am desperately looking for info on this also. You left out the biggest surprise and annoyance with this low-end tablet...NO ABILITY TO MOVE APPS TO THE SD CARD!!! This thing is running 4.4.2 for Chris sake! After OS install, you only have 5GB internal memory. I put a 32GB card on it in order to shuffle off the app memory hogs and I can't even use it!!! <calming down...>
As a result, I get "insufficient memory available" errors for many programs. And some won't even consider the tablet for install. I know you get what you pay for, but the specs on this thing aren't awful. It just needs a decent OS on it. I tried loading into the bootloader once and almost bricked it. When rebooted, the "JLAB" opening screen came up and just stayed there...forever. I finally had to leave it on overnight to completely run down the battery to get it back from the abyss.
Please, if anyone has this thing and is able to put a decent rooted OS on it, post it here. Thank you!

+1 any headway?

I got one for xmas from a friend... I was able to root it with kingo root tool for windows.
I hope this helps.
Make sure debug mode is on in developers options.
To enable this mode clicking the "build number" a few times in system settings.
It rooted my device but i ran into a few issues. First every time the device does a full restart it makes me do the welcome wizard also
(unsure if my defective or not) my wifi signal becomes extremely weak even though i am sitting next to the router.

Kewlz now that we have root all we need is a custom recovery. Id be willing to test out a recovery if someone wants to make one.

I found out the all these cheap tablets are rebraned the manufactor is trio they also sell tablets under their own name.

For the love of God please make a room for this. It's often rebranded please let us know if it works with some other room.

enp82003 said:
I got one for xmas from a friend... I was able to root it with kingo root tool for windows.
I hope this helps.
Make sure debug mode is on in developers options.
To enable this mode clicking the "build number" a few times in system settings.
It rooted my device but i ran into a few issues. First every time the device does a full restart it makes me do the welcome wizard also
(unsure if my defective or not) my wifi signal becomes extremely weak even though i am sitting next to the router.
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I also rooted my Pro 7 using KingoRoot and am now facing the issue of a factory reset every time the device restarts or powers off/powers on. Were you, or anyone else able to solve this problem? Thanks!

I did not resolve the issue. I returned the thing and got my money back. There are much better options out there then this cheapo thing.

There are definitely better options but it was free on cyber Monday at tiger direct. It will be a decent tablet for my young son if I'm able to get it sorted.

wewantutopia said:
There are definitely better options but it was free on cyber Monday at tiger direct. It will be a decent tablet for my young son if I'm able to get it sorted.
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I agree with you. But logically it's been a year and these China tablets see no dev love. Unless you know the inners of android OS... I wouldn't suggest it because you will be taking on issues like this alone. ebay the Toshiba Thrive. They are really cheap now and run so much better. If i remember right someone made custom kitkat for it. It's really durable and strong perfect for a kid.

enp82003 said:
I got one for xmas from a friend... I was able to root it with kingo root tool for windows.
I hope this helps.
Make sure debug mode is on in developers options.
To enable this mode clicking the "build number" a few times in system settings.
It rooted my device but i ran into a few issues. First every time the device does a full restart it makes me do the welcome wizard also
(unsure if my defective or not) my wifi signal becomes extremely weak even though i am sitting next to the router.
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It's been several years since I had an android device but I go the same black friday deal and figured that it would be a great ereader (free). Now I need a little more room so I'm trying to root but both kingo and king root failed for me.. Any ideas? I'm on a mac running windows through a VM but I don't think that is the issue.

Your version is obviously newer as this thread was made last Xmas. As I stated these devices have little to no support so finding a working root would be hard. Your computers os shouldn't matter. If you want an easy root return the device and get a name brand device.