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[Q] Battery Calibration

I read a lot of thread about battery calibration so I want to know if someone try this on XT720 and if it's really usefull and not dangerous for the phone.
Thank you

It is useful and not dangerous at all. Your battery has, if stock that came with phone, a full charge of 4.2v.
So let's say that you have been conservatively using you phone most of the day and are at 70%. You decide to flash the Hellmonger edition or CM6 but you make a nandroid backup first. You flash them and it goes horribly wrong and your phone power dwindles down to 30% and you freakout and charge it back up.
When it is charging, you decide to hold off on flashing for a bit and want to go back to your "home" ROM, whatever that may be. You let your phone charge up to 100% and re-flash your back up. Once it reboots and settles down, you happen to notice that just 5 mins ago you were at 100%, but now after flashing your backup, your battery shows 70%.
30% drop in 5 mins is rediculous. Yes it is, bit it didn't really drop 30% in 5 mins because when you backed up your original ROM, you also backed up your data/system/batterystats.bin that was calibrated to 70%.
If you use Battery Calibrator and charge it up fully, run app, hit it and then unplug, it deletes the data/system/batterystats.bin and in a few seconds (5 ithink) it creates a new one with you proper charge and voltz.
So if you flash a lot, this is good for you. Or you can delete the batterystats.bin manually if you want, but there's an app for that.

Woodrube said:
It is useful and not dangerous at all. Your battery has, if stock that came with phone, a full charge of 4.2v.
So let's say that you have been conservatively using you phone most of the day and are at 70%. You decide to flash the Hellmonger edition or CM6 but you make a nandroid backup first. You flash them and it goes horribly wrong and your phone power dwindles down to 30% and you freakout and charge it back up.
When it is charging, you decide to hold off on flashing for a bit and want to go back to your "home" ROM, whatever that may be. You let your phone charge up to 100% and re-flash your back up. Once it reboots and settles down, you happen to notice that just 5 mins ago you were at 100%, but now after flashing your backup, your battery shows 70%.
30% drop in 5 mins is rediculous. Yes it is, bit it didn't really drop 30% in 5 mins because when you backed up your original ROM, you also backed up your data/system/batterystats.bin that was calibrated to 70%.
If you use Battery Calibrator and charge it up fully, run app, hit it and then unplug, it deletes the data/system/batterystats.bin and in a few seconds (5 ithink) it creates a new one with you proper charge and voltz.
So if you flash a lot, this is good for you. Or you can delete the batterystats.bin manually if you want, but there's an app for that.
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So, if I understand, it's not so usefull because after I lose my 30%, if I charge and I have 100% it's really 100% not 70% right ?

I would say that it is always best to start from a clean slate. It deletes that batstat file and starts anew. Can't hurt, but if you are flashing ROMs every 3rd day like most of us, it does come in handy.
For the moral of the stroy, it will not damage your phone. Just a one click app that you can do manually with Root Explorer if you wanted to.

Woodrube said:
I would say that it is always best to start from a clean slate. It deletes that batstat file and starts anew. Can't hurt, but if you are flashing ROMs every 3rd day like most of us, it does come in handy.
For the moral of the stroy, it will not damage your phone. Just a one click app that you can do manually with Root Explorer if you wanted to.
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Ok, thank you, I will use it when I will flash a new ROM.

Do you actually have to drain the battery fully after calibration?
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eejin2 said:
Do you actually have to drain the battery fully after calibration?
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Its recommended that the battery drain fully, and then be recharged without interruption. I guess thats to give android a full scale from full to empty, to help better report battery stats and consumption.
However for me full drain means 10-15%, its hurts the battery to be drained till the phone powers off.

sohrab.naushad said:
Its recommended that the battery drain fully, and then be recharged without interruption. I guess thats to give android a full scale from full to empty, to help better report battery stats and consumption.
However for me full drain means 10-15%, its hurts the battery to be drained till the phone powers off.
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Haha battery calibration definatly helps the battery a lot but u suggest not draining battery fully??

androidlover123 said:
Haha battery calibration definatly helps the battery a lot but u suggest not draining battery fully??
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I used to drain it fully till my phone turned off before calibration but I read a very detailed article about how draining the battery completely can hurt it. So I choose to drain it till 5-10% which is good enough

How come sometimes when the battery is full it shows 4200mah like it should but sometimes it shows less like around 4165mah in the battery calibration app? At 4165, I still left it there to charge to see if it would increase or not but it didn't...
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I know that the last little bit of charge just trickles in and takes a long time. If mine is at somewhere between 4150 and 4200, i call it good and go from there. If it was showing at say 4095 and 100%, then there might be something wrong with either the data or the battery. If you are sitting at 4165, then it is charged for the most part.
The app and what it does is more for when you are flashing a ROM and have around 60% and then once booted up fully, you charge it up to 100%. Decided you don't like your ROM and go back to your original ROM via backup, it will show 60% instead of the 100 or 90% you had before you went back to back up b/c you backed up the batstat bin when you nandroided your original ROM.
How about this:
ROM: Epicsteelblue 70% (and you made a backup) Then went to CM6, charged and hit calibrate battery at 100%. Used CM6 for a few hours and decided it wasn't your bag. Your batter is at 50%. You flash back to your Epicbluesteel ROM and you know for a fact you had 50% before you flashed back, but now once totally booted, you are showing 70%. This is why you use the battery calibrator after you flash a ROM. Gotta create a new batstat bin for you "fresh" ROM (even though it is a backup).
Hope this helps explain better.

eejin2 said:
How come sometimes when the battery is full it shows 4200mah like it should but sometimes it shows less like around 4165mah in the battery calibration app? At 4165, I still left it there to charge to see if it would increase or not but it didn't...
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That happens sometimes to me aswell. The battery calibration app shows the battery full at 4165 or somewhere in that range. What I do with that is bump charge it. So if battery calibration shows 4165, i just calibrate it and turn the phone off while it is connected to the charger. When it turns off the charging screen appears and shows 100%, i leave it there for an hour or two. Then remove and turn the phone on. If you go into the battery information itll show the charge to be 4200 or close to that. Hope that was helpful you can try it next time.
EDIT: The reason I turn the phone off and let is charge is that when it reboots after fully charging to 4200 it can create a fresh battery stats. Remember battery stats are only rebuilt upon boot. If you calibrate your battery and then dont reboot its useless. To test calibrate it, and then use it for awhile and then try to recalibrate it the app will indicate that there are no battery stats avaible to delete. This is because the ROM has not made any new battery stats and will only make them on boot.

hey guys has anyone tried this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11803458&postcount=10) of calibrating battery? it seems the dev says that if u use his method, you can calibrate without downtime!!

wow this is damn cool. but its kinda complicated. the old way feels better for me i think...

Battery Updates
The battery updates every 10%, is there any way to make it update more precisely, like every 5%?

I've never been able to get anything better that 10% battery increments

Okay thanks maybe in a future rom this would be nice.

Hi
Is their a way to change from 10% to 1% increameants.
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eejin2 said:
How come sometimes when the battery is full it shows 4200mah like it should but sometimes it shows less like around 4165mah in the battery calibration app? At 4165, I still left it there to charge to see if it would increase or not but it didn't...
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It is the property of all rechargetable battery, 4.2V can only see at the moment charging progress just finished. when the power management IC pull of charge current, battery's voltage will drop a litte in a very short time, like you said, 4.165V for example. And, because of your charger is connected, battery will not drain, It won't be another charging progress witch you are expecting.

I know I'm digging up an old thread here, so sorry for that. I've recently tried a few other ROMs, but since have come back to CM6.3.7. I always do the battery calibration thing when I flash ROMs and each time I've tried it lately, it gives me odd information in the Battery Usage screen. I charged my phone to 100% yesterday before leaving work and when I got to work today, it showed 70%, which seemed normal, but the Battery Usage screen showed "1h 24m since last unplugged" and I know I hadn't plugged it into the wall or USB for about 12 hours. I did restart once....could that be the reason why the time since last unplugged is incorrect?

[Q] 100% Battery Issue

After Flashing G2x to the new CM7.1.0.1 and restoring my apps from TB, battery level was what it was before I flashed from Weapon G2x 2.7 (around 35%). After first reboot I noticed that the battery graphic in the status bar change to a picture with a ? in the middle. I then played around with some of the CM settings and changed the display to % which then changed to 100%
I flashed ROM to my backup of Weapon G2x 2.7 with the same symptom. I then went into CWM and wiped the battery stats, rebooted, and had the same problem.
Now I have flashed to EaglesBlood 2.3.7 GB and have the same issue!!
In all of these ROMs I have tried charging from wall charger as well as PC and do not get a charging indicator how ever I am able to USB storage.
Any suggestions?!
UPDATE 1: Just plugged phone in while in off state and the charging battery displayed. Must be an issue in the OS it self.

Install battery calibrator from the market, charge too 100%, use the app, unplug and use it till it shuts itself off then charge to 100% without interruption.
I always get the ? Battery after flashing a rom and even sometimes after a reboot but it settles itself after a couple seconds. Normally after it preps the after card.
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Ok, i dont know what changed but I let it run for about an hour and the percent jumped down to 78%. I am now getting the charging icon. Going to completely discharge, wipe battery stats, fully charge, and then wipe battery stats again.

Q-battery percentage

so the last couple of days ive noticed that when i charge my battery and check the history. it seems to go from 76% to 100% right after it passes 76% ive calibrated the battery and used the "Battery monitor widget pro" to set the values. is there anything else i can do?
ive also ordered extra batteries and they seem to do the same around 80% and go up to 100% in a matter of seconds
thanks

Charge your phone to full while phone is on. Turn off fast boot and shut phone off leaving it plugged in. Let it continue to charge until the led turns green.
Once green go into recovery and wipe battery stats. It's in the advanced menu. This will reset any previous settings but its VERY important to make sure its been charged full, first while on and second while off, before doing this.
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Gizmoe said:
Charge your phone to full while phone is on. Turn off fast boot and shut phone off leaving it plugged in. Let it continue to charge until the led turns green.
Once green go into recovery and wipe battery stats. It's in the advanced menu. This will reset any previous settings but its VERY important to make sure its been charged full, first while on and second while off, before doing this.
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ive done that. its fully charged now but it went from 76 to 100 within a minute. i did the wipe stats last night but it took like 30 mins while playing a movie for it to go completely dead from 1% to off

Well i'd say let it drain and recharge for a few cycles and it should recalibrate itself. If you go through about five cycles of draining it to about 20 and then fully recharging without interruption and its still messed up, then it could be the Rom giving you trouble. Re install Rom with a full battery. If its still messed up after that then the battery is probably damaged.
Edit: try other roms too before deciding that it is definitely the battery. Sometime roms have minor bugs like this.
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Gizmoe said:
Well i'd say let it drain and recharge for a few cycles and it should recalibrate itself. If you go through about five cycles of draining it to about 20 and then fully recharging without interruption and its still messed up, then it could be the Rom giving you trouble. Re install Rom with a full battery. If its still messed up after that then the battery is probably damaged.
Edit: try other roms too before deciding that it is definitely the battery. Sometime roms have minor bugs like this.
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Also, any add on mods to the notification bar could be causing the bug.
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Battery Calibration - Once and for all!

I have read every possible thread you can imagine on battery calibration and can never seem to do this correctly, is it a myth? No matter what I do, if I restart my phone, I end up going from 100% down to 85-86% EVERY SINGLE time.
This is after "bumping it". (letting it drain all the way to 0% and then fully charging again).
This is after using BATTERY CALIBRATION in the market which was told works well. (again, advises you charge to 100% then "calibrate" it via the APP).
This is after charging it to 100% and restarting it, recharging up to 100%, restarting and recharging (repeat, repeat, repeat), and then going into bootloader and wiping battery stats.
None of these have worked, does someone have a sure fire EXACT way to do this properly or is at ALL just hype? Help.

Your battery will never say 100% after a reboot. It sucks up a lot of juice on a power up and the battery doesn't charge during powering on. I usually drop about 10% on a reboot using the rezound battery. That is normal behavior. If you can charge to 100% with the phone on then you're fine.
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Interesting because I've never lost 15-16% consistently although I guess it using some juice to cycle makes sense. Anyone else seen 10+ every restart? Thanks for the help man in either case.

Hmm, never seen this before. On my phone which is running skyraider uc to 768mhz and uv only loses 1percent on reboot or doesn't even lose charge at all. Not sure why your phone is doing that.
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I am running G3D uc to 768mhz and on restart I may lose 1 - 5% at most depending on if i made any changes that take a longer restart. I bet you are overclocked? no need, under clock to 768mhz and your phone will run as smooth as 1.2mhz..maybe smoother while using less battery

Running liquid 3.2.1 on my T-Bolt with the Rezound battery and I only lose 1% battery at boot up. Never lost more...oh and I have never calibrated my battery. Also I get about 8-10 hours of moderate to heavy use too. All stock clocks btw

Just to double check - or reword... do it this way - if you aren't already.
Charge to 100%.
Wipe Batt stats
Drain to zero without recharging in any way (AKA let it drain until it shuts off on you).
Recharge until 100% (till it says 100%, not just "green."). And unplug.
And you're good! Try that and check back in.

Battery Calibration doesn't work

Ignore the % number, it means nothing. Use the battery monitor widget or another program that will show you the actual battery voltage. A fully charged battery will be somewhere around 4200 mV and a discharged battery between 3600 and 3200 mV. I've also noticed that the rezound battery throws things off as the mAh rating doesn't match up to either of the thunderbolt batteries. This is why the battery monitor widget shows the rezound battery as 2750 mAh instead of 1620.

What I recommend to my Evo peeps [which I have] is this:
-Charge battery to 100%
-Wipe battery stats in recovery
-Let the battery drain, so it manually powers off
-Charge to 100% again, and good to go

Battery Calibration doesn't work
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By this I mean Google Developers have came out recently and said battery calibration does not increase or have any effect on the state of battery life. All wiping the battery stats does is wipe the stats as to what has been using the battery, etc.
still handy for when you flash a new rom to wipe the stats, but it doesn't improve battery life at all.

smoody said:
By this I mean Google Developers have came out recently and said battery calibration does not increase or have any effect on the state of battery life. All wiping the battery stats does is wipe the stats as to what has been using the battery, etc.
still handy for when you flash a new rom to wipe the stats, but it doesn't improve battery life at all.
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Actually, the post from Dianne @ Google said nothing about calibration. She only talked about wiping or deleting the battery stats file.

You are correct, however all the battery calibration apps available only delete the battery stats file. So like I said it doesn't affect battery life.

wherestheboost said:
Just to double check - or reword... do it this way - if you aren't already.
Charge to 100%.
Wipe Batt stats
Drain to zero without recharging in any way (AKA let it drain until it shuts off on you).
Recharge until 100% (till it says 100%, not just "green."). And unplug.
And you're good! Try that and check back in.
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This is what I thought I had done but will do again. The problem is even after its 100% and in between your 1st and 2nd step when I reboot into recovery, it's no longer at 100% and sometimes down to 85%ish. I will try again tho, thanks!

http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/wiping-battery-stats-is-pointless-says-google-r316
That pretty much says it. Wiping stats and calibrations are placebos.

l7777 said:
That pretty much says it. Wiping stats and calibrations are placebos.
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Yeah I read that too. But when I flashed my first rom on the tb I got abysmal battery life. 25% in like 20 min. I recalibrated and it got so much better. If its a placebo its a good one.
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all that says is the the deleting the batterybin file doesn't help. The battery is handled by each by software outside of android itself. So, following the battery calibration from the manufacturer of your phone still might help.

jefferyriess said:
Yeah I read that too. But when I flashed my first rom on the tb I got abysmal battery life. 25% in like 20 min. I recalibrated and it got so much better. If its a placebo its a good one.
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25% in 20 minutes means nothing. The % is an estimated number. Find an app that reads the battery voltage if you want a true reading on the battery's charge. Full is 4.2 volts, dead is between 3.0 - 3.6 volts. Battery life should only be measured in hours from full to dead. I've seen my phone stick on 100% for several hours before as well as sticking at 20% for several hours. Ignore the %. Anyone spending all day looking at a % to judge their battery life should go back to a battery indicator that doesn't show %.

Wrong battery data..

Hello, i'm experiencing a bad issue
My battery data seems wrong, i will explain better
I'm using insertcoin 3.4.6 with battery percentage
I'm also using juice defender that put it on plane mode during the night
Happens that battery, for example, shows 18%, so i rebooted in recovery and the real % was 4! Then i rebooted and infact battery showed 4%.. why this big delay? I have wiped battery stats but nothing
I'm on stock kernel and radio

Charge the phone to 100 then wipe the batt sats, Discharge the phone till it dies, then charge to 100 (not till green light comes on but a few hours after that) then you will start to see better results.

Yea, try wiping battery stats after full charge to 100, do full discharge. Also what recovery are you using, i know clockworkmod has a bug that has to do with bat %

Nothing to do.. I've done 2 full cycles 0-100 but still the same problem
Seems something is preventing battery to refresh stats
I'm using 4ext touch recovery..
Always,when i go to recovery, i see a different value of % , seems under 30% it start to go crazy.. Can be a os issue.. I'm on insertcoin 3.4.6 and after i was on stock european htc rom ( 2.3.4, sense 3 bla bla bla)..
For example, now os shows 3% and recovery shows 4%...

I get the same thing, might be common. What helped me was changing roms, was more erratic on some.
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Most of the Sensation devices have this issue. It's a common problem.

But is software issue then? Because my battery life give me 2 days and is not bad at all! Only this annoying issue...

From what I've read it is a fault in the Sensation battery driver, hopefully HTC will fix this in the ICS release.
My battery data is all over the place, I use BMW only to look at the % left graph and interpret what I think the remaining power is - the voltage, current and wattage readings are all over the place and totally untrue.
You can't improve this, unless you can write a better driver!