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Just curious, I see a lot of issues are with the camera and FPS. I was wondering if the quality was any better with a smaller resolution? I wonder if ASUS will have a OTA update for the camera app.
jinsoku3g said:
Just curious, I see a lot of issues are with the camera and FPS. I was wondering if the quality was any better with a smaller resolution? I wonder if ASUS will have a OTA update for the camera app.
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From what I've read, the FPS issue is only affecting the rear camera. Asus is working with google on correcting this - I can almost guarantee this is a software bug and I'm certain it will be resolved.
EP2008 said:
From what I've read, the FPS issue is only affecting the rear camera. Asus is working with google on correcting this - I can almost guarantee this is a software bug and I'm certain it will be resolved.
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It's got to be, too much potential to be so underdeveloped. Is the audio playback better on the front camera too?
Yeah the fps issue is only with the rear camera for video. Once they fix the fps issue it looks like it is capable of a fairly decent video quality.
The quality of still camera shots is average, but then it is only 5mp. Obviously if you wanted a proper picture, chances are you wouldnt lug your tablet around to take one anyways. It's handy for scanning documents, etc of course.
The lack of a flash isnt really bothering me, which I thought it would.
From what I understand, it's more than just a frame rate issue -- several reviewers have noted that the shutter lag is unacceptably long, at over two seconds between pressing the shutter button and the picture actually being captured. Unless Google and Asus can solve that, it'll still prove unusable for many people. But as noted, most people (myself included) aren't buying the Transformer for the cameras...
I don't know why people care so much about the camera for? Obviously its garbage just use a DSLR or Camcorder if you want pics/vid cause the pics you get on this will be the same as your cell phone.
eviltuna said:
I don't know why people care so much about the camera for? Obviously its garbage just use a DSLR or Camcorder if you want pics/vid cause the pics you get on this will be the same as your cell phone.
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Solely for unexpected snapshots, to be quite honest. But you're paying for it, wouldn't you expect it at least to be usable, even if it's not great?
And incidentally, speaking personally, my main shooter *is* a very good quality DSLR with a good selection of lenses including a few primes.
eviltuna said:
I don't know why people care so much about the camera for? Obviously its garbage just use a DSLR or Camcorder if you want pics/vid cause the pics you get on this will be the same as your cell phone.
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That would mean carrying around a camera in my pocket too when I already have the cellphone and a tablet with cameras and (potentially) great playback. btw, my cell phone take fantastic pictures and video..so I wish in that respect! I would use the camcorder function mainly to record videos of the phone LMAO! A camera would be like a 3rd investment and get left behind a lot for me.
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Solely for unexpected snapshots, to be quite honest. But you're paying for it, wouldn't you expect it at least to be usable, even if it's not great?
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^ Definitely great for that reason and yes! We are paying for it.. might as well do what it says it does lol
Personally I really like snapping pics and videos on tablets. I love the big screen with the camera, and the idea of having one central media device.
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In the faint distance I hear a post screaming bloody murder as the delete button backspaces each letter haha
I honestly don't care too much for the camera. It'd nice to have, but I'd rather have a less buggy OS. It seems like there's a memory leak issues with the device if it's left running for a while. I hope that gets resolved.
Can anyone with a Sensation post some 1080p clips on Youtube, or maybe upload an untouched version on some filehosting site? I heard they did some wizardry and drastically improved the video compared to previous offerings. Pretty please with sugar on top?
I second this
I'm just trying now, not sure what the outcome will be
I cant post links as my post count isnt high enough..
Only way I can think is going to YouTube and search my channel 'PygoReviews'
Theres a couple on my channel uploaded, then a longer one is on its way once its uploaded. Includes filming my fish, my chameleon then going outside, so different lighting perspectives.
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I'm just trying now, not sure what the outcome will be
I cant post links as my post count isnt high enough..
Only way I can think is going to YouTube and search my channel 'PygoReviews'
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Search "PygoReviews" = no hits
youtube.com/user/PygoReviews
http://www.youtube.com/user/PygoReviews
Cheers
There is another video being uploaded, im off to work now but the video shall be done in about half an hour.
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youtube.com/user/PygoReviews
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Ok. Thanks.
Apparently search only works if you've uploaded >2 vids. Who knew?
Channel Search
You can search for YouTube channels in the same way that you search for videos. All user channels with greater than two uploads are indexed in search results.
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I'm just trying now, not sure what the outcome will be
I cant post links as my post count isnt high enough..
Only way I can think is going to YouTube and search my channel 'PygoReviews'
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Please, upload a original sample to any fileholder (megaupload.com ,etc...).
Becouse Youtube always recode video.
Yes please upload unmodified clip onto say mediafire, megaupload, oron, filesonic, rapidshare, etc. Would appreciate it.
Here's the links to the two videos pygoreviews uploaded. Thanks for uploading.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVKQDJFab2g
Sorry to say, but the indoor video does not look good at all. Lots of noise and artifacts, blur, and dropped frames. The most annoying thing for me (which it shares with the Atrix and other Motorola phones) is it can't adjust exposure smoothly, like someone playing with the dimmer in a room; the slightest tilt and change in light suddenly dims or brightens the whole picture in big steps. Very annoying to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IOR5mGRibY
In the outdoor video, seems to suffer from the same problems as the iPhone, but seems worse. Overblown and oversaturated colors and contrast, killing detail and giving it a smeared cartoony appearance. Exposure problems are less noticeable but still a problem.
Doesn't seem much better than HTCs older phones. I think the Atrix might even be better. The iPhone4, GS1/GS2/Nexus, G2x and N8 are all better.
Here are a couple of videos from that guy that has all those youtube videos already. Sam's Tech. Makes a good comparison with the GS2 since its all from the same field, time, and wind conditions.
Sensation 720p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC9R35x5tEQ
Galaxy S II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jBQPMzhXQ0
Sensation 1080p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP6Zjs5prW4
Galaxy S II 1080p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDV91zfm6VU
GS2 is much smoother and more detailed, with better colors and far less exposure issues. Just really far ahead in a lot of respects. Sensation still has exposure issues. Colors/contrast are way overblown/oversaturated like the previous videos, killing detail. Framerate is not smooth, quite jerky. And no screaming foul, since they are both Youtube uploads. It is smooth sometimes, but then stumbles quite a bit on others. The weirdest thing are the colors. They shift very dramatically. The grass goes from pale green one moment (like its overcast) to yellowish and warm the next, probably because of some exposure issue as well since it changes only at certain angles. Then there's the very conspicuous patches of blue/purple that sometimes appear on the grass or strewn atop the trees. Ghoulish. The strange color artifacts and overall weird colors remind me of an old VHS tape on a jacked up tube TV, not to mention the other details.
Another issue is the audio capture. Both the GS2 and Sensation have sucky audio capture (The G2x, iPhone4, and N8 are much better), but the Sensation fares worse in this comparison since the sound of the wind is needle sharp like lightning cracking (GS2 more like thunder thud) and the guy's voice has a lot more of those sharp screechy cutoff sounds. And no idea of the technical term for this.
Video capture and quality is very high on my priority list, probably tied with screen quality for number one spot. I know some people don't give a hoot about the camera or video of a phone, but there's a ton of people who do, especially as a convergent device. If you are looking for good video capture, there are much better choices out there.
Could be worse. Check out this issue with the SGS II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QznuN_ZUh-A&NR=1
Some sort of random pink spot in the middle of every pic/video. Apparently quite a common issue there. New firmware doesnt fix it either.
Not saying I don't agree with everything you said about the Sensations videos. Exposure looks likes its being controlled by someone with a palsy. All over the place. Disappointing really.
Wow man, just read ur posts, they are all bashing HTC Phones/ Loving SGS Phones. BTW when u have sun setting on fiels it really gives the ground a pale yellow colour so if the video shows that it isnt a bad thing also when u limit the area to just the grass it focuses in that frame and adjusts the ISO and Exposure if its set to auto. So imo showing pale yellow colour when the sun is setting is a good thing, I know my Sony Cam takes the lighting into action unlike my nexus one cam who would always try to dim the lighting to the minimum thus kicking out the colours due to lighting, About SGSII or any other phone audio being better u can just thank your fanboyism for such judging. This is the first time i heard anyone sayin Mono audio sounds better than stereo :/. The audio might not be one with studio quality fidelity quality, but still awesome for a phone video Sensation video was equally smooth, its just that the guys hands were shaking, u can't blame your wife for becoming pregnant when u forgot to use a condom. And like u said Moderators dont give a rat ****
Just putting up another of mediafire. Off to work again so will post up a link later. Its outside today, so be prepared for alot of wind noise Bloody weather.
Here you go people:
http://www.mediafire.com/?llmpx16mm5o7oye
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Here you go people:
http://www.mediafire.com/?llmpx16mm5o7oye
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Looked ok and sound was alright despite wind. Now question. Does the video camera have any whitebalance options at all? There was quite a lot of washout of the colour in bright light. I would like to be able to set whitebalance to sunny perhaps to combat that kind of thing.
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Looked ok and sound was alright despite wind. Now question. Does the video camera have any whitebalance options at all? There was quite a lot of washout of the colour in bright light. I would like to be able to set whitebalance to sunny perhaps to combat that kind of thing.
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Yes, I saw it in a video and just checked the manual where it's listed and gives the impression that it is available (the photo only options mention "photo only" and white balance doesn't have that comment).
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Here you go people:
http://www.mediafire.com/?llmpx16mm5o7oye
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Just saw it, seems quite nice. Not as much detail as I'd like but more than decent. And definitely better than the first 720p videos for phones (those were absolute rubbish). Hey, it's even better than some "1080p" tv shows I've seen (you know the ones, where it seems the FullHD was achieved through very aggressive warpsharp algorithms).
Outdoor clips look good! but I'm worried about indoor / low light.. The samples from even the G2X looked smooth in very low light, but the Sensation clip looked to have the same awful judder that my Nexus One has..
PygoShlee, if you would be so kind, can you take a low light / indoor night time video in 720p and see if it's smooth?
(G2x clip for comparison in a dark room: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZnP23jd_A4)
I'll do it this afternoon
Sent from my HTC Sensation
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Here you go people:
http://www.mediafire.com/?llmpx16mm5o7oye
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I quite like this. Smooth when panning. Detail could be better.
In a nutshell. Im gettting married next weekend and purchased an Olympus SZ-30MR camera to film in 1080p. But it's eating through the propiety batteries really fast and it takes hours to charge.
I was going to buy the Sensation after the honeymoon. But now im thinking of getting one this week to do most of the filming.
People who have one already can you test:
1. How long you can film without it stopping? Cameras limited to 29 mins.
2. How much filming can you do until battery is nearly flat?
3. Is quality any good?
Will be using a 32 gb card.
Big thanks in advance.
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As far as I can see you're only limited by the size of your SD card. I just uploaded a quick test I did to youtube, it's probably still processing the higher quality versions. 30 second video is 38.6MB, 1920x1088 resolution (yes, 1088), 29fps.
It's definitely not the best video to check quality, but I was more interested in seeing the actual size of the videos created.
No clue on how much it drains battery as I've hardly used it so far
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U70LGfTlsq4
Lazzzara said:
As far as I can see you're only limited by the size of your SD card. I just uploaded a quick test I did to youtube, it's probably still processing the higher quality versions. 30 second video is 38.6MB, 1920x1088 resolution (yes, 1088), 29fps.
It's definitely not the best video to check quality, but I was more interested in seeing the actual size of the videos created.
No clue on how much it drains battery as I've hardly used it so far
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U70LGfTlsq4
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Can you check the bit rate of that clip you posted? And is that in mp4?
cheers..
10596kbps and it's 3gp format. Thought that was strange. I always associate 3gp with the very first phone cameras.
can you upload a video for audioplayback test please ?
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10596kbps and it's 3gp format. Thought that was strange. I always associate 3gp with the very first phone cameras.
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Thanks mate. Did you check the settings for that? Maybe there are some options to switch between 3gp and mp4?
Not a fan of 3gp. Bit rate is on the lower side. How do you feel when you view the clips on TV/monitor?
No option to change file format. Seems to be 3gp for all quality settings.
While changing quality settings I did notice it tells you how much video you can take for each setting. I could do about 3 and a half hours on my 16GB, with about 15GB free space atm.
Video looks nice on my laptop (1080p screen) and a bit better on my TV (also 1080p) when I'm sat on the sofa of the other side of the room. It's obvious there's compression there, but it's better than what I was expecting for a phone camera, and I definitely don't see any need for a "real" camcorder as long as I have this. It's more than enough for any "home videos".
I would in no way use a mobile to film memorable things like a wedding as you will regret it.
Take a good look at the Sony Cybershot HX9 that records excellent 1080p video. Excellent image stabilization, video and sound quality. Excellent camera too!
Really don't even bother with any mobiles for things like that.
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Yeah go borrow/rent a good camera/camcorder or even hire a wedding film person (make sure they don't run off with your money). Video on phones is only for convenience. If you can do MUCH better, why wouldn't you?
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I would in no way use a mobile to film memorable things like a wedding as you will regret it.
Take a good look at the Sony Cybershot HX9 that records excellent 1080p video. Excellent image stabilization, video and sound quality. Excellent camera too!
Really don't even bother with any mobiles for things like that.
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Oops. No the mobile will be for video on the honeymoon which doesnt require zoom. Im stuck with a couple of Olympus SZ-30MR now. The zoom is pretty awesome at 24x.
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Oops. No the mobile will be for video on the honeymoon which doesnt require zoom. Im stuck with a couple of Olympus SZ-30MR now. The zoom is pretty awesome at 24x.
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The Sensation video as far as I can see after looking at a few Sensation videos on You Tube is even at 1080p its similar to the Desire HD video recording capabilities with the whole 'going dark and light all the time as you move around' which is ok but in honesty you will get better from a good compact camera as mobile video in general the sound is quite tin like.
I would try and get most capturing done on your compact camera as its going to be better. Shame you cant get a Sony Cybershot HX9 as that is a frigging awesome compact camera for photos and HD video just come out as well.
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Oops. No the mobile will be for video on the honeymoon which doesnt require zoom. Im stuck with a couple of Olympus SZ-30MR now. The zoom is pretty awesome at 24x.
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Ok. In MY opinion it should be good enough. Since you have the good camera which eats through the battery like mad I have the following impression. You were planning on getting the Sensation either way so might as well get it now. You can use the Olympus for those WOW moments and then use the Sensation for those fun spontaneous moments (seems good enough for that in my opinion) so you don't have to be constantly be worrying about the proprietary batteries and their charge.
But like I said, that's MY take on it.
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The Sensation video as far as I can see after looking at a few Sensation videos on You Tube is even at 1080p its similar to the Desire HD video recording capabilities with the whole 'going dark and light all the time as you move around' which is ok but in honesty you will get better from a good compact camera as mobile video in general the sound is quite tin like.
I would try and get most capturing done on your compact camera as its going to be better. Shame you cant get a Sony Cybershot HX9 as that is a frigging awesome compact camera for photos and HD video just come out as well.
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Just a note on sound, if the Sensation mic is as good as the HD2 I will be chuffed. Went to Ibiza last year and stood next to loud speakers filming, it didn't distort and can easily recreate the bass. Blown away by it not distorting.
Yeah new mobile should arrive today. Got a pretty mint deal to make it worthwhile.
Thanks for responses people.
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Just a note on sound, if the Sensation mic is as good as the HD2 I will be chuffed. Went to Ibiza last year and stood next to loud speakers filming, it didn't distort and can easily recreate the bass. Blown away by it not distorting.
Yeah new mobile should arrive today. Got a pretty mint deal to make it worthwhile.
Thanks for responses people.
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I hope you enjoy it and it lives up to your expectations.
Also I wish to say congratulations and I hope your wedding and honeymoon are everything you could wish for
I can't seem to find a decent (objective) comparison between the two cameras, and the camera would be a pretty big factor as to whether I'd be upgrading to an Amaze (for free) or One S (for ~$150 plus selling the Amaze). And I'm talking about actual photo quality, not camera/software features or tech specs about the camera that might not necessarily translate to actual picture quality. Thanks for any help!
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I can't seem to find a decent (objective) comparison between the two cameras, and the camera would be a pretty big factor as to whether I'd be upgrading to an Amaze (for free) or One S (for ~$150 plus selling the Amaze). And I'm talking about actual photo quality, not camera/software features or tech specs about the camera that might not necessarily translate to actual picture quality. Thanks for any help!
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Their are some youtube videos comparing the cameras, The amaze would lose when it comes to the camera in my opinion. This is the fist camera to be able to take action shots as good as my Cannon T3.
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Their are some youtube videos comparing the cameras, The amaze would lose when it comes to the camera in my opinion. This is the fist camera to be able to take action shots as good as my Cannon T3.
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I've only been able to find one video so far...and it's certainly not the best way to compare quality - I'd love to see stills of the same things taken by the two cameras and see how they compare.
I just purchased the One S yesterday.
I cannot compare to the Amaze having never owned one. But I can say that from what I've seen so far of the camera, it's pretty darn good. I've had a Galaxy Indulge, Evo, Sensation and a G2x and IMO this camera takes the best quality pictures hands down. I esp. like the burst mode.
I'm no expert, just thought I'd throw that out there.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi 5 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
My only complaint of this nice piece of gear is the video recording feature.
There is no [email protected] recording option. Even the recording quality in good light conditons at 30fps (1080p) is not smooth and really choppy
Have not see any advantage of the 4axis OIS future.
Hope to see developers that can fix this issiue with software updates.
I think the best video recording quality has the Samsung Galaxy S6/S7/Note series and the Iphone 6/6s line.
Hope to see other opinions and good nwes
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My only complaint of this nice piece of gear is the video recording feature.
There is no [email protected] recording option. Even the recording quality in good light conditons at 30fps (1080p) is not smooth and really choppy
Have not see any advantage of the 4axis OIS future.
Hope to see developers that can fix this issiue with software updates.
I think the best video recording quality has the Samsung Galaxy S6/S7/Note series and the Iphone 6/6s line.
Hope to see other opinions and good nwes
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Keep dreaming!!! You should have thrown your cash at the other phones instead.
Guys, I keep seeing constant complains and whining about this phone and yet the only person to blame is your self. Read the god damn reviews !!!!!
all reviews point that video recording is just ok, nothing great... OIS is almost non-existent...
no software update will fix that...
read more carefully next time
yorikkk said:
all reviews point that video recording is just ok, nothing great... OIS is almost non-existent...
no software update will fix that...
read more carefully next time
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It has a great video recording quality for it's price. OIS and auto-focus is better than the more expensive flagship op3.
watch?v=Z8H5kOnryEo
OIS is clearly there, try recording while driving a motorcycle. There will be no, or at least minimal, glowy images as in non-OIS enabled devices. Color rendering is still the best, S7 and 6S is behind for this one. Lighting is natural, however you may prefer S7's "always daylight" choice (i.e., it will show bright light even in dark environment), but that's completely preference. I choose natural. Slow motion is great, even if only single [email protected] choice (slowed down 4x from 120fps) I found it very useful to record fast motion videos to see it later in detail.
this is the worst think in this device
it cant shoot a good video
get a lot off blurry result every time video
For me its 75/100.
Miui makes it complicated to chenge to 4k, fullhd slow-mo quickly. Timelapse feature is great. There were problems with rotation for camera but software update solved them. So it is not great but nice to see they are improving littlle by little.