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Buying an iPhone was the best thing I ever did (from a former WinMo lover)

Let me preface my argument with an introduction: Why did I buy an iPhone to begin with? Short answer: It was a reaction to Windows Phone 7.
Long answer: As a big fan of Windows Mobile, I was pretty much devastated to hear all the news about WP7 a while back, in particular the fact that it has no backwards compatibility. Much of XDA didn't seem to share my pessimism, but me? I was extremely upset. At the time, I had wanted to purchase an HD2 after using the Fuze for so long, but I did not want to upgrade to WP7. That would have been fine, but then many companies began to drop support for WM6.X left and right in favor of developing for WP7 (including a few I really wish hadn't). I was also afraid that, by sticking to WM6.5, I was going to get left behind with an abandoned OS, so I came to a conclusion: If I had to switch to an entirely new OS (which was what I considered WP7), then I might as well switch to an already established one.
A lot of choices (WebOS, Maemo, Android, and, of course, iPhone) popped into my head, but what ultimately made me head to the iPhone was my absolutely certainty in one thing: That without apps, even the most powerful and beautiful smartphone would be useless. Alternatively, with apps, even a poor smartphone becomes great. The second part of this belief is the reason why I had used Windows Mobile for so long and it is also a principle I apply greatly to the iPhone.
By coincidence, about the time I came to a decision, my contract was up, and I was allowed to upgrade. I chose the iPhone 3GS. Now, about a little over one month after I purchased it, I am glad to say that my 'absolute certainty' turned out to be proven correct (at least to me). The iPhone, in time and with the right apps, has now become far more important to me than my Windows Mobile phone has ever been.
Admittedly, at first, I was nervous that I made an error. The first two weeks after owning an iPhone was a terror; everything was so damn restrictive. The simplest things that WinMo would let me do easily (such as renaming my files) was forbidden on the iPhone; to do anything like it, I had to use iTunes (which I hated), and even that came with restrictions. However, over time and with the help of the massive iPhone app store, I began to overcome each problem. Even better, each solution the iPhone presented ended up being far, far superior to what I used on WinMo.
I liked using Twitter on WinMo? Twitterrific is not only faster than any Twitter app I've ever used on WinMo, but it comes with more features and has much better usability. I liked using Tomtom on WinMo? MapQuest/CoPilot Live offered free voice navigation (they are the *only* free navigation software I have ever accepted as reasonable substitutes for the paid GPS solutions) and, of course, Tomtom plus numerous others are also available any time I want them. I liked reading using Adobe Reader LE on WinMo? 'Stanza' on the iPhone has so many more features with such a better interface that it's almost difficult to put into words.
And things continued in such a manner. As I had thought prior to buying it, the iPhone was able to replace every app I ever used on Windows Mobile with an equal or superior version. To make things all the better, the iPhone is just a crazy amount faster than any other smartphone I've ever used before.
Enough of the compliments, though. Truthfully, there is still a few things that my Fuze could do that my iPhone can't. Some examples? Well, my Fuze can get a pretty decent alarm clock app. Additionally, it can also tether pretty well. Unfortunately (for my Fuze, that is), the former issue will be gone upon iPhone OS 4's release, and the latter will no longer be an issue once I jailbreak my iPhone. If nothing else, if there is any issue that I can claim about the iPhone that is simply not possible to get around, it is the dependence upon iTunes.
In a way, I feel almost foolish. I had spent a good amount of time despising the iPhone because it lacked the hardware features that so many other Android/WinMo/Symbian smartphones seem to be get. While a WinMo phone was announced with a massive, WVGA screen with a 5MP camera; an iPhone was announced with the ability to copy and paste. Meh, I guess I can be happy that I'm wrong.
To get to the point and summarized my entire argument: the iPhone comes with a lot of restrictions compared to what I'm normally used to with Windows Mobile, but it more than made up for it with it's amazing app selection, the incredible speed of its OS, and it's admittedly elegant (I somehow hate this word with Apple products) design.
I had kept my Fuze as a backup in case things did not work out, but now, I find it unimaginable for me to go back to what I used before.

Glad you like your iphone.

The Game.
You all lost it.
Because i associate the iphone with the game.

XxsydenxX said:
The Game.
You all lost it.
Because i associate the iphone with the game.
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I lost the game

jagger2k said:
Glad you like your iphone.
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Thank you!
XxsydenxX said:
The Game.
You all lost it.
Because i associate the iphone with the game.
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Well, if losing makes me this happy, I hope I lose 'The Game' more often.

as long as you are happy
and the phone does what you want and needs, thats all that counts

I guess most are glad you like it. There should be no hate, everything has it's use.
I personaly had to work with an Iphone recently(well I had to help some overextended users), some of them had WinMo phones before. And I still found alot of good stuff from WinMo missing. Some features I never tought could miss on a recent phone...
Well for me the IPhone feels like a toy, my Touch Pro2 feels like a Phone/PDA. There's nothing wrong with toys, just another user group.

I lost the game but had to find it again with a hero when the slippery bugger flew out my top pocket on to the kitchen floor.
iPhone functionality just gets better and better over time shame battery life doesnt..

I can understand the freshness iPhone brings about to its new users, as I experienced using the phone for more than half of a year. For the first few months it felt really great, everything was just more than perfect, and I did not even think about using any phone other than iPhone.
But after six months, I changed my mind. My iPhone 3G was so boring, there is nothing left of the phone that could hold me back. And I decided to get a new HD2. Only after that, I asked myself a question "Why was I stuck with the boring iPhone for that long?"
Anyways, your needs and demand will decide which phone is the best for you.

Congrats
Congratulations
Not buying an Iphone is the best thing I ever did, and whats more I shall continue to not do it.
Oh and stay away from the ibeer, I hear those ihangovers are killers.
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hungry81

If only the iphone came w/ a sliding KeyBoard!!!!

Thats what I thought when I bot the iphone 2G a few years back, I actually used it for close to a year before getting the HTC Tough Diamond. It was ok for 3 months before I got the SE Xperia X1. That was ok too until it broke down on me. After that I tried the Nokia E71 (which I tot was a brilliant phone btw). Used that for another 6 months before I got the iphone 3GS. But surprisingly the 3GS did nothing for me. I tot it was kinda boring as I did not see that much difference with the 2G (in terms of UI).
Now, I have an Android Supercharged Nexus one. And in all honesty, this is the best phone I have ever owned. The Brilliant UI, the Speed of this phone, the screen, the openess of the OS is really revolutionary if you ask me. I can safely say that I will be an android OS user for years to come.

slowatsch said:
I personaly had to work with an Iphone recently(well I had to help some overextended users), some of them had WinMo phones before. And I still found alot of good stuff from WinMo missing. Some features I never tought could miss on a recent phone...
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Well, I did mention this in my post. Missing basic features is something that has been an issue with the iPhone since the 2G. I mean, even as I use my 3GS, I still wish it had the basic feature of being able to save .GIF images.
It is frustrating sometimes, but most issues aren't that overwhelming and I wasn't too disappointed because I knew coming into the iPhone that there would be issues such as this.
anarchyuk said:
iPhone functionality just gets better and better over time shame battery life doesnt..
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In all fairness, the iPhone's battery life seems comparable to every other smartphone I've used. In fact, it actually seems a bit better in comparison to my Fuze, which is amazing when you take into consideration some of the factors, such as the larger screen, faster processor, and, most noticeably, the fact that it only has a 1219mAh battery vs the Fuze's 1340mAh.
nazrin313 said:
Thats what I thought when I bot the iphone 2G a few years back, I actually used it for close to a year before getting the HTC Tough Diamond. It was ok for 3 months before I got the SE Xperia X1. That was ok too until it broke down on me. After that I tried the Nokia E71 (which I tot was a brilliant phone btw). Used that for another 6 months before I got the iphone 3GS. But surprisingly the 3GS did nothing for me. I tot it was kinda boring as I did not see that much difference with the 2G (in terms of UI).
Now, I have an Android Supercharged Nexus one. And in all honesty, this is the best phone I have ever owned. The Brilliant UI, the Speed of this phone, the screen, the openess of the OS is really revolutionary if you ask me. I can safely say that I will be an android OS user for years to come.
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Well, yes, the 3GS' UI is the same as the 2G's. All the iPhones uses the same OS, after all. UI changes tend to come with OS updates (regardless of which iPhone model you own) and, even then, changes are limited as, of course, Apple likes to keep their interface simple and familiar. The upcoming iPhone OS 4 is probably the biggest change in a while and even UI changes in that is limited.
Unfortunately, while I've used Android, my knowledge of that and the Nexus One is still limited. Nonetheless, I have read reviews and watched 'benchmarks' of the N1, and I still prefer the 3GS, but that is really just my preference. The N1 is a great phone, though.
P.S. I agree with you regarding the E71. It is a brilliant phone.

Im still using my 3GS btw and I use it for music, movies and games....for everything else I use my Nexus

nazrin313 said:
Im still using my 3GS btw and I use it for music, movies and games....for everything else I use my Nexus
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So.... you use your Nexus as a phone and the iPhone as an iPod Touch?

JAguirre1231 said:
So.... you use your Nexus as a phone and the iPhone as an iPod Touch?
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Hahah yeah..kinda...im also using my 3GS for my wifi tethering purposes as Ive got my unlimited data plan on that... so win-win I guess..

nazrin313 said:
Hahah yeah..kinda...im also using my 3GS for my wifi tethering purposes as Ive got my unlimited data plan on that... so win-win I guess..
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u know u can change the sim card , rite ?

souljaboy said:
u know u can change the sim card , rite ?
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LOL of cos buddy...but I actually have 2 different sims (1 for my phone usage and another for an unlimited plan). So, I just use my 3GS as my router at home for my internet purposes hehehe.
I take my Nexus every where I go...I think overall the Nexus wins as its a more capable device compared to my iphone 3GS.
Naz

nazrin313 said:
Now, I have an Android Supercharged Nexus one. And in all honesty, this is the best phone I have ever owned. The Brilliant UI, the Speed of this phone, the screen, the openess of the OS is really revolutionary if you ask me. I can safely say that I will be an android OS user for years to come.
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Yes! You are very "open" in your java sandbox! But despite the missing kernel access in a way I agree. You can probably still customize enough for the "usual" needs, and so after the decline of Windows Mobile 6.x you might consider Android the last "geek friendly" OS....

Hi 8525Smart,
While I can agree that moving from winmo to iPhone is a good decision, have you stopped and think if your decision is still the best in light of the rich array of Android phones (such as the HTC Supersonic) available these days? The large size screen, a UI that is way better than winmo's and quite close to iPhone's, better notification system, attractive widgets, dual flash, nice camera, fast processor, ... Or are you just so happy with iPhone that you're not thinking of potentially even better phones? I'm not saying that Android is better as I don't know the answer yet myself. I'm just wondering if you have seriously given Android a chance and to find out as much as you can about it?

happy with captivate?

are you captivate owners very happy with the phone? im debating between the captivate and iphone 4.... but mostly likely will end getting the captivate. ive read some ppl having issues such as mms and gps and all that.... is the issue really bad? also how is the messaging on the device? is it kinda like the iphone? im using my iphone 2g cuz i had my tilt 2 but dropped it in water and now doesnt work.... so coming from an iphone 2g to a captivate or iphone 4 is pretty good. any suggestions and opinions are greatly appreciated!!

i struggled with the same decision. my fiance has the iphone4 and i had the 3g, so i was very used to the OS and style, etc. After a lot of research i decided to make the switch to the captivate and i am glad i did. no mms issues, and gps issues are easy to fix with a little searching in the forums. it offers so much more customization than the iphone4 and the larger amoled screen looks just as good as the retina display.

well, let me remind you something, this is the samsung captivate channel. Every single reply that you get will be slightly (or immensely) biased toward Samsung Captivate.
Currently, hardware-wise, nearly everything in the Captivate offers the top in the mobile market.
Enough said.

how is the messaging? is it threaded like the iphone? have u rooted it? thank you for your response!

accinfo said:
well, let me remind you something, this is the samsung captivate channel. Every single reply that you get will be slightly (or immensely) biased toward Samsung Captivate.
Currently, hardware-wise, nearly everything in the Captivate offers the top in the mobile market.
Enough said.
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i would like to hear all the info about the captivate through its actual users
EDIT: sorry for double posting

accinfo said:
well, let me remind you something, this is the samsung captivate channel.
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this is true

i would like to just hear what users have to say about it and whats great and all.

Please do read my previous suggestions to other soon-to-be-buyers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7085252&postcount=2
Messaging, don't worry if it's threaded or not. I'm pretty sure it is. If not, you can find app to fix that.
My phone is not rooted yet as I see there's not a reason yeeeeet. (probably soon since i hate the att bloatwares as they are actually running in the background all the time draining batteries / performance)
np. BE CAPTIVATED! You won't regret your choice. I have to admit that as of now the Android app is not THHHAT superb compared to the ios market, sometimes even halfbaked. BUT look at it this will it'll dominate soon.
Why?
iOS = Apple only.
Android = Samsung, Sony Ericsson, HTC, etc etc. It might take a while, but it's already up to par.

Overall, this is the best phone in the world (my biased opinion).
hardware wise: its the best phone available to the public in the world at this point in time. (fact)
Function wise: Once devs get through with it, it will be the best phone in the world. (Educated Guess)

What's great?
-Notification bar on the top let you quickly toggle the wifi, bluetooth, silent, annddd vibration.
-there are million useful widgets that you can use in your homescreen, even though i don't use any of them xD
-games (oh my goodness, i haven't gotten the time [or the persistence against laziness] to download the emulators, once you download the emulators, you'll be able to play nearly ANY GAMES (PSX, gameboi, etc)
-i cannot comment on the calling / messaging quality since i have tmobile, i'm waitin for the unlock code (i've been using airplane mode with wifi on)

I am extremely happy with my captivate. I think its the perfect mixture of hardware and software...though there are a few sour spots that need fixing. Throw in the versatility of android and the unlocked nature if the captivate and this phone will be very popular.
This phone basically is four devices in one for me....phone...mp3 player...camera/camcorder...and internet device.
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accinfo said:
What's great?
-Notification bar on the top let you quickly toggle the wifi, bluetooth, silent, annddd vibration.
-there are million useful widgets that you can use in your homescreen, even though i don't use any of them xD
-games (oh my goodness, i haven't gotten the time [or the persistence against laziness] to download the emulators, once you download the emulators, you'll be able to play nearly ANY GAMES (PSX, gameboi, etc)
-i cannot comment on the calling / messaging quality since i have tmobile, i'm waitin for the unlock code (i've been using airplane mode with wifi on)
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good choice picking up the captivate instead. I checked out the vibrant b4 i got this, and its felt/looked more like the ugly stepchild of the galaxy s series.

systoxity said:
good choice picking up the captivate instead. I checked out the vibrant b4 i got this, and its felt/looked more like the ugly stepchild of the galaxy s series.
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oh two more things.
usb sliding door is cool.
battery cover is metal which is cooler than other galaxy s.
battery opening is cool.
that's three but whatever.

accinfo said:
usb sliding door is cool.
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That's literally the first thing I noticed when I got the device. I was like HOLY SH!T it's GENIUS!

Not really, but I will be soon.
I'm really disappointed with the stock ROM, but 2.2 will fix most of the issues, and a custom 2.2 rom will fix all of them.
I really wish manufacturers and carriers would leave the rom alone. Fine, load your bloatware, I get it, you're trying to generate revenue, and it's simple enough to remove those things, but my captivate, while having significantly faster hardware, is much, much slower than my Nexus One on 2.1, even after doing everything I can.
From a hardware standpoint, I'm very happy with it. The rom is seriously lacking though.
Again, I'm coming from a vanilla android phone, so the difference might not be as big if you're coming from something sense or motoblur or any of the other skins manufacturers seem to love putting on android phones for no good reason.

To answer your question simply, so far yes I am happy with the Captivate. Would I be happier with an iphone4... probably so.
The iphone4 is a better phone hardware-wise. Better screen. Better camera. Better battery life. Equal CPU/GPU. Slimmer design (not by much though). GPS that actually works.
I knew this going in (well except about how pitiful the GPS is), and still bought the Captivate. Will I keep it beyond the 30 days? I dont know. The GPS is absolutely crap. It will not track you at all, even at jogging speed. If you are standing still it locks you pretty quick and accurate. But as soon as you start to move, its over. I have tried it on my bike and it wont even track me through my neighborhood, much less at 30 mph in your car. Highway speed, forget it. Its totally unusable for anything. There's others in here that try to use it for jogging and it says they went further than they really did because when you zoom in on the path it zig zags all over the place. Just know ahead of time, if you use gps on your phone often, do not buy this phone. And dont expect samsung to put out an update anytime soon. They are notoriously bad about updating software. Just ask any samsung smartphone owner.
I was coming from an iphone 2G and wanted something a little different. I guess I had gotten bored or complacent using iOS for 3 years. Now I am missing it. Android has gotten better, but its still not as rock solid and easy to use as iOS. I get several "Force Closes" a day, and I only had apps crash a couple times in 3 years with iOS. Though, if you like to constantly tinker with stuff, Android is for you. With all the variables there are lots of things you can play with, like widgets, different keyboards, etc. Also, cut and paste with android is not as good as it is on the iphone. Hopefully soon we will start to get custom ROMs, although so far not much has been accomplished yet as the source code for the Captivate still hasnt been released.
All in all, Captivate is a good phone, iphone4 is a great phone. Thats my honest un-biased opinion and I own the Captivate and I was a long time iOS user.

derek4484 said:
To answer your question simply, so far yes I am happy with the Captivate. Would I be happier with an iphone4... probably so.
The iphone4 is a better phone hardware-wise. Better screen. Better camera. Better battery life. Equal CPU/GPU. Slimmer design (not by much though). GPS that actually works.
I knew this going in (well except about how pitiful the GPS is), and still bought the Captivate. Will I keep it beyond the 30 days? I dont know. The GPS is absolutely crap. It will not track you at all, even at jogging speed. If you are standing still it locks you pretty quick and accurate. But as soon as you start to move, its over. I have tried it on my bike and it wont even track me through my neighborhood, much less at 30 mph in your car. Highway speed, forget it. Its totally unusable for anything. There's others in here that try to use it for jogging and it says they went further than they really did because when you zoom in on the path it zig zags all over the place. Just know ahead of time, if you use gps on your phone often, do not buy this phone. And dont expect samsung to put out an update anytime soon. They are notoriously bad about updating software. Just ask any samsung smartphone owner.
I was coming from an iphone 2G and wanted something a little different. I guess I had gotten bored or complacent using iOS for 3 years. Now I am missing it. Android has gotten better, but its still not as rock solid and easy to use as iOS. I get several "Force Closes" a day, and I only had apps crash a couple times in 3 years with iOS. Though, if you like to constantly tinker with stuff, Android is for you. With all the variables there are lots of things you can play with, like widgets, different keyboards, etc. Also, cut and paste with android is not as good as it is on the iphone. Hopefully soon we will start to get custom ROMs, although so far not much has been accomplished yet as the source code for the Captivate still hasnt been released.
All in all, Captivate is a good phone, iphone4 is a great phone. Thats my honest un-biased opinion and I own the Captivate and I was a long time iOS user.
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I can see your point of view, but if you have any interest in modding your phone, I would wait until a good aftermarket rom is out.
The stock Captivate rom is NOT a good indication of android. It's honestly horrid, in my opinion.

I returned my iphone 4 to get this phone. Don't regret it at all and I've been an iphone guy since the 3g and upgraded every year
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emuneee said:
I am extremely happy with my captivate. I think its the perfect mixture of hardware and software...though there are a few sour spots that need fixing. Throw in the versatility of android and the unlocked nature if the captivate and this phone will be very popular.
This phone basically is four devices in one for me....phone...mp3 player...camera/camcorder...and internet device.
Lol that is actually five. ;-b
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very happy. all the at&t garbage is off. helix launcher is now on. have my bittorrent app and music junk 3.0.4.

Iphone 4 vs Captivate

Which you guys think is better and Why? Please share
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WTF dude? Why post this on the Captivate forum? This debate is tired already. I use a Captivate not an I Phone.

iPhone 4. It's got the 3g and the wifis

Posting it on the captivate forum is not gonna be biased at all.....

there was already a thread from a guy that was doing a debate for school asking for good arguments, and another comparison thread. search it.
android is a better thought out os but it has its problems. the captivate has a better gpu. they both have great screens, i like the amoled, but the iphone is is brighter which is good in the sunlight, iphone is better resolution which is good if you hold the phone close to your face but it may be overkill, i feel like the captivate could have better pixel density. neither is bad but if you want sugestions it depends on priorities.
how important is insurance?
will you want to video chat?
do you have friends with front facing cameras on there phones especially other iphone 4's or use webcams often?
do you take pics at night? captivate night mode is sometimes better in surprisingly dim light or for objects that are lighted at night but with no flash the camera is sometimes useless for portraits in a dark club setting or total darkness. led flash is only useful for portraits but if that's important to you then you might want an iphone.
how are you with a touchscreen? can you type on an iphone? swype is a good alternative to a keyboard.
do you use widgets? there are none on the iphone.
do you want to theme your phone?
do you like broken glass that cuts your fingers? slip on covers trap dirt that scratches the glass. scratches are stress risers and the glass breaks!
i can go on, but i think you already know what you like and can find out the information.

Well currently I have xperia x10 android phone and love it how customisable it is. Even you jailbreak Iphone you can't customize barely anything. Then apple release new firmwire and devs make more jailbreak. The only thing I want Iphone 4 is for apps and games and fps games. The reason I did vs Captivate. If Captivate can handle games like Iphone 4?
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Better question: Why are you posting in the Captivate forum about this when you use an X10?
And if the games were made for Android, then they would play just as well, if not better then the iPhone4.

the_ahmadzais said:
Well currently I have xperia x10 android phone and love it how customisable it is. Even you jailbreak Iphone you can't customize barely anything. Then apple release new firmwire and devs make more jailbreak. The only thing I want Iphone 4 is for apps and games and fps games. The reason I did vs Captivate. If Captivate can handle games like Iphone 4?
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better!
galaxy s can handle games better than any other. g2 and mytouch 4g are the fastest phones but galaxy s has a better gpu.
get a captivate, root it, get samsung apps, temperarily change the build.prop to the gt i9000 build.prop and download asphalt 5. change build.prop back to stock. play asphalt 5. this is a version of asphalt 5 built for a galaxy s, the version number is lower than the one on the gameloft website because gameloft took out some of the open gl features so that the evo and driod x could run it better!
you will see better lighting effects and better framerates with this version on a galaxy s than the one on there website.
better andriod games will come soon and show off the galaxy s capabilities. there is a small number of high quality 3d fps games on the market because one device that doesnt sell as well as others isnt enough push for development. now that the g2 and mytouch 4g are close in the gpu area and many new phones will come soon there is likely to be some amazing new games coming out. especially from gameloft.

I think the Captivate's interface is better, even though Apple has a reputation for having better usability.
With iOS, Apple is surely lagging. Android OS is much better. The bugs people talk about just aren't there for me - they have been resolved. I also use beta ROMS, etc.
On to hardware. Honestly the touchscreen misses my intended target 1/100 times, with the iPhone 3GS it always registered what I wanted to click. I know 1/100 sounds small, but it bothers me.
Last part is third party software / hardware. iPhone has more docks, etc. Captivate has next to none. For the best apps - if it is on the iPhone, then it is on the Android. However, they are lagged. For instance, the iPhone Navigon app is farther advanced than the android Navigon app.
There ya have it.

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Which you guys think is better and Why? Please share
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cause the GeeBees and the WhyFlies are very upgraded to the best. Captivate battery tastes way better and sweet yummy. iPhone plug is too much bigger and It hurt big when you put it in back. Toast?

Shovelhead84 said:
cause the GeeBees and the WhyFlies are very upgraded to the best. Captivate battery tastes way better and sweet yummy. iPhone plug is too much bigger and It hurt big when you put it in back. Toast?
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I LOL'D.
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Well you see, there were these winjas and nizards.....
From a phone on an app

What made the decision for me was the freedom the phone gave me. You could either have a phone where steve jobs dictates how ur phone is going to be, like it our not, or go with a phone that supports customization. I know a few people with galaxy s phones, and the beauty about them is, if you pick em up they look very different. With different launchers and widgets, you truly have more customization. And the beauty of widgets is your can get information without ever opening app. And there's swype.
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Hacked Captivate >> Jailbroken iPhone 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone 4 >>>> Stock Captivate

I have 2 or each on my AT&T plan.
Both are good choices,and wouldn't diss either one.Each go about what they do differently,and neither are perfect for everybody or everything.
My wife and I use the Captivates..both my sons use the 32 gig I 4 phones.We all like what they do and how they do it..so it really is a personal choice on what you get. Can you get bad ones of each..certainly..I've already had to have both of the I-phones go back already due to bad sim cards..so..nothing is perfect. Both of my Captivates are from the September build,and both have worked great.
All 4 of us are happy with them..I am happy with the Captivates,and am glad I can change it around easier than the I-phones..my sons are happy since they have used i-pods and i-tunes since they first came out.Both phones sound great..both look great..both give excellent call quality.
To me the biggest differences is the price of the phones.For next to nothing you can get a Captivate on a 2 year contract..not so with the I-phone.Another big difference is how much storage you can have with the Captivate.You can swap out the sd card and have tons of storage..you can't do that with the I-phone.
Look at all of the differences..and all of the applications and games you want to use.Go with the one you feel will suit your needs..and don't base it on other peoples needs.Lastly...If you want to be able to change things around and truely customize it easily..the I-phone may not be your best choice.If you just want a phone and keep it the way it is..then the I-phone may be the best choice.Then again..if none of this is applicable to you..you may just prefer how one looks and feels over the other and base it on that when you go to get it .Like I said..it is a personal choice than anything else since neither is 100% perfect.
Mac

^^^Like him, I have a Captivate and my son & daughter have Iphone 4's. After visiting my daughter and playing with her Iphone 4 I noticed 2 things that gripe me: 1) The Iphone 4 can orient google maps in a "heads up" mode..and 2) The iphone 4 can pinch to zoom in the gmail app. Being an android (made by google right?), I'm amazed that our Captivate can't do that..especially #2. My 50+ eyes really have a hard time with the tiny font in the gmail app...and there's no way to increase it -in 2.1 at least

Slashgear Review . . .

I think this is the first proper review.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-sensation-review-23153699/
Do the people with the phone already, agree with the conclusions drawn?

freedirk said:
I think this is the first proper review.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-sensation-review-23153699/
Do the people with the phone already, agree with the conclusions drawn?
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Seemed pretty fair and balanced. Glad to see that pics are better with this handset over some other HTC ones. Little bummed about the tearing int he video - but I imagine that might be something that a software update might address. Browser seems fine if a little different than the samsung when zooming flash. Battery life looked ok - but what surprised me was that they have great battery life on their SGS II. That seems to be one of the most dominant complaint threads on their boards.
All in all I feel better about looking to purchase one when it comes out in the states.

Damn.
I'm thinking more and more of getting the SG2 now instead due to lack of dev support and this review is swaying it more too. The SG2 is a much better hardware package but i prefer the design of htc and i prefer sense to touchwiz.

I can comment on TouchWiz vs. Sense. I got an SGS2 because I couldn't wait for the Sensation to come to the States to evaluate it. I had Sense on my former HTC phones and was expecting TouchWiz to be kind of the same thing. Sense is an environment with apps tightly integrated whereas TouchWiz is really just a Samsung launcher. I used launchers on my last two phones which were vanilla Android so TouchWiz's more Android feel felt comfortable. People looking for HTC's approach toward common apps being front-ended by Sense and tightly integrated would be disappointed with TouchWiz. Not that TouchWiz is bad and a lot of Samsung's proprietary apps and hubs are really good, it's just a very different approach.

"Sensation as the consumer’s phone and the Galaxy S II as the Android fan’s phone"

this review is that whas i need.
i dont intresting sg2. i only intresting or sensation is beter that desire in all aspekts ( screen, power, call quality, camera, sound in 3.5mm and laudnes in speeker, battery u.t.t)
Sensation is beter? i think it is.
hope for root, bet some time i cen live without that
p.s in latvian phone cen wait 2-3 weaks after unbranded realise in eorope. need wait some time

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"Sensation as the consumer’s phone and the Galaxy S II as the Android fan’s phone"
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i disagree. sg2 is just too ugly and iphone'esque (even if Apple copied their original design from samsung)
HTC are a better all rounder i think

Well Barff1984, I do agree with you that in the all-rounder category the Sensation is the winner, however in terms of "Android Fans Phone" I think it's a bit inconclusive:
On one hand you've got the fact that the SGS2 was released earlier, with its bootloader opened wide with the sound of devs cheers, incredible specs and whatnot. Is it the easy fan choice? Well;
On the other hand: Some people (myself included, hate me if I sound a bit biased) prefer HTC's approach - albeit slightly weaker, when it comes down to the experience of actually using it - the UI, the sense of quality in your hand is a key factor.
And you know what? I think that's another way of being an Android fan - sticking with the things you like, and not fitting into an iFruity pattern. That's the beauty of Android - you've always got choice, whether its hardware or software. If you don't like it - change it. Because you can.
Plus I can smell the dev gods are cooking delicious stuff for us Hardcore HTC guys, and just because Samsung got a head start doesn't mean the Sensation is DOA.

i agree with you trek -
I don't think you can say either phone is better, they both had good points, both had bad points...
but the reason i love android - WE are left with a choice of which one WE prefer !
i happen to prefer better build and feel of htc and sense over touchwiz.

Barff1984 said:
i disagree. sg2 is just too ugly and iphone'esque (even if Apple copied their original design from samsung)
HTC are a better all rounder i think
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I think you've mis-read the quote slightly.
I think it's to do with the sensation having a more polished interface which will make it sit better with casual users. Whereas people that have researched the phones a great deal will possibly prefer the Galaxy2 for its unlocked bootloader and arguably better hardware.
Of course as slashgear also stated,this generalisation does nothing for either phone as both are power houses.
P.s. I also realise that the vast majority of users here have researched both phones and have alot of knowledge, hence the reason we're here. ;-)
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It's a never-ending debate.
As long as someone is happy with any of the phone, I would say job well done from the part of the manufacturer/OEM. And I believe the review did it's best not to raise the fanboy-ish sentiments that we have.
I am absolutely sure that Engadget review will be provocative/controversial (it's always their goal to generate maximum comments). Gsmarena/Anandtech seems to be much more detailed and objective.

Phil750123 said:
i agree with you trek -
I don't think you can say either phone is better, they both had good points, both had bad points...
but the reason i love android - WE are left with a choice of which one WE prefer !
i happen to prefer better build and feel of htc and sense over touchwiz.
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What i just hate is that HTC failed on a few VERY simple issues,
if they did better on those points, they would easy have a winner.
1) More RAM and internal storage
2) Non signed bootloader
3) Hardware accl browser

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i disagree. sg2 is just too ugly and iphone'esque (even if Apple copied their original design from samsung)
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+1, put together, SGS2 is ugly look.
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I think the review was good. I saw some complaints about it being too superficial but I think it serves its purpose and was unbiased pointing out the benefits and cons giving each phone its due (I don't care that it was more of a comparative review as that's basically how people on here treat it). I also hope the GSMArena one comes out soon. They tend to have very detailed review going into all aspects of the phones. I'm still quite sure I'm getting it but I like to be aware of all the "bad" stuff before I get something (this is also nice because often the bad doesn't turn out to be as bad as I thought it would be making me pleasantly surprised rather than disappointed )

MartijnMM said:
What i just hate is that HTC failed on a few VERY simple issues,
if they did better on those points, they would easy have a winner.
1) More RAM and internal storage
2) Non signed bootloader
3) Hardware accl browser
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I agree, minor steps for big improvements.
1) Think the ram is the big issue, specially when sense is going to take up
more ram then touchwiz (im guessing here but im pretty certain it be the
case)
2) Im sure "hoping" that this will be by passable, I've read a detail
article about this stating, it not as bad as people believe. I dont understand
it fully but as most people on here, i just want custom roms!
3) Would be nice, but not on my top list as personally im not a big
web broswer on my mobile. (Although might change when i get a bigger screen
and faster web browsing )
Im leaving work early to fly down to the vodafone shop and see if
they have one in stock - bar that to phones 4 u shop opposite so
hopefully I'll be able to talk from first hand experience!

Hmm, I wonder when we'll start seeing reviews with proper GPS testing. Not comments like "the gps is fine, it locked really fast!" but showing some tracks and proof of decent accuracy and consistency. That would help avoiding fiascos like the one with the Galaxy S.
I'm curious about the Sensation but will definitely not buy another toy without clearing this out first... can't get lost.

did anyone notice sample camera picture taken by sensation at slashgear review have soft image on left and sharp on the right?
ignore the already out of focus background flower pic, other street and tree pictures it doesn't seem like depth of field, anyone got the device on hand can confirm or share your picture please.

Beowulf_pt said:
Hmm, I wonder when we'll start seeing reviews with proper GPS testing. Not comments like "the gps is fine, it locked really fast!" but showing some tracks and proof of decent accuracy and consistency. That would help avoiding fiascos like the one with the Galaxy S.
I'm curious about the Sensation but will definitely not buy another toy without clearing this out first... can't get lost.
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True, I'd like to know this. But no tech site, or youtube review has brought up the GPS issue, which I'm sure they would when they did their review.
I did hear (made a poll), on androidforums, that a few had these problems but all of them, now, have basically ironed themselves out. Really odd, but a few days later virtually everyone reported back that it fixed itself. I know your looking for hard evidence but I just thought I'd share what I know.

ratchetnclank said:
Damn.
I'm thinking more and more of getting the SG2 now instead due to lack of dev support and this review is swaying it more too. The SG2 is a much better hardware package but i prefer the design of htc and i prefer sense to touchwiz.
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Well, Its kinda just got out on contract... wait for it to be off-contract and published in the USA and more :O

http://www.slashgear.com/sensation-vs-galaxy-s-ii-does-qhd-make-a-difference-24154010/
Addition stuff about the screens. Looks like for games its the SGII for movies/webbrowsing/text based stuff - Sensation.

Iphone 5 vs Galaxy S II?

Hey guys. Im on t-mobile right now and i was wondering if i should stay with em and get the Galaxy S II, or switch to verizon and get the iPhone 5 when it comes out later this month. I dont really care about services and all that. All i care about is the phone itself and which one is better and has more features and all that good stuff.
Thanks in advanced!
Remember! Im only 13. Gimme a break!

Well if you like playing games...get the iPhone.
For two reasons:
1) The App Store in general has higher quality games (and a much larger selection). (Real Racing 2, Infinity Blade, Rage HD, etc.)
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285162 The A5 has much better graphics performance than the Exynos.
On the other hand if you love modding and tweaking your phone, Android FTW! Jailbreaking is rather limited in comparison.

iPwn_ said:
Well if you like playing games...get the iPhone.
For two reasons:
1) The App Store in general has higher quality games (and a much larger selection). (Real Racing 2, Infinity Blade, Rage HD, etc.)
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285162 The A5 has much better graphics performance than the Exynos.
On the other hand if you love modding and tweaking your phone, Android FTW! Jailbreaking is rather limited in comparison.
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I can confirm that about Real Racing 2. I have it on my iPhone 4 and it's, to me, a smartphone version of Gran Turismo from the Playstation for gameplay and physics. Just a superb smartphone racing game. And the games on iPhone do tend to be superior.

Of course there is going to be a bias in this forum. However, all bias aside, what till the iPhones press release to see what it has to offer. Then decide if a functional phone (with all its downfalls in what I choose for a phone os, it is a very functional phone out of the box. Can't deny that) is for you, or if you like the freedom of android (where my bias lies ) choose that. Although android has flaws like ios, wp7 or any other, SGS2 did a great job of tackling some based on reviews I have read. Based on this and test driving them both, make your decision. Either way have fun with your shiny new toy. Also you could wait for the next nexus, which has me torn between that and the SGS2.
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In all honesty this is like a PC versus Mac comparison. The Galaxy S II is going to be a remarkable phone specs wise, and going by the benchies I've seen the software is great to boot, but Apple is good at appealing to what some people want. An easy UI, while locked down, providing a great experience, but nonetheless I'm far from being an apple fan, with their locked down environment, you wonder why it's called jailbreaking when you root your phone? The fact of the matter is (to me), people are going to flock to the Iphone 5 because of the marketing hype, those in the know will grab the Galaxy SII because they know what's up.

im gonna have to agree to disagree. the galaxy s2 does have some great games as well made by non other Gameloft. asphalt 6 is great looking on the s2, you got games from EA like Need for Speed and many more...For the person who said you can tweak the galaxy s2 more than the iphone you are completely and utterly wrong. for me when i had my iphone 4 i tweaked it up so much it looked like a car out of pimp my ride once i finished with it..in cydia there are so many hundreds of tweaks and stuff that you can do is unbelieavable....also there is an application called dreamboard were you can change so many themes..go on youtube to check it out...
all in all though its down to you little buddy what you want to choose.. i have the galaxy s2 and im very happy...does what i need and my next phone will probably be the s3 if it comes out or shall i say when it comes out....but if you want quality games or shall i say more games then the iphone is the one for you...but true wait tilll they announce it and see what its like

Matriak31 said:
im gonna have to agree to disagree. the galaxy s2 does have some great games as well made by non other Gameloft. asphalt 6 is great looking on the s2, you got games from EA like Need for Speed and many more...For the person who said you can tweak the galaxy s2 more than the iphone you are completely and utterly wrong. for me when i had my iphone 4 i tweaked it up so much it looked like a car out of pimp my ride once i finished with it..in cydia there are so many hundreds of tweaks and stuff that you can do is unbelieavable....also there is an application called dreamboard were you can change so many themes..go on youtube to check it out...
all in all though its down to you little buddy what you want to choose.. i have the galaxy s2 and im very happy...does what i need and my next phone will probably be the s3 if it comes out or shall i say when it comes out....but if you want quality games or shall i say more games then the iphone is the one for you...but true wait tilll they announce it and see what its like
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The problem with the whole "Games" thing is that Apple was first to the punch, and they release a static platform, while me personally I dislike anything apple, the fact is that most companies that produce games go for what works, and sadly iOS is the first in line they develop for, stats wise though if they released games for the Android platform things would be much different, but I guess most people have an Apple on the brain so a lot of the good stuff we see for the iOS won't hit Android.

Usualsuspect182 said:
The problem with the whole "Games" thing is that Apple was first to the punch, and they release a static platform, while me personally I dislike anything apple, the fact is that most companies that produce games go for what works, and sadly iOS is the first in line they develop for, stats wise though if they released games for the Android platform things would be much different, but I guess most people have an Apple on the brain so a lot of the good stuff we see for the iOS won't hit Android.
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true true...but if you look we do have some amazing games for the android though...just because iOS gets first dips doesnt mean we dont have any good ones..and if you read you will see in the next few months dev will be working hard on bringing some exclusives games to android first but anyway if someone wants to buy a phone purely for games they might as well buy a console...

no offence but, I am kind of disappointed by this thread because it seems to me people here have gaming as their number 1 priority.

Dude he's 13. When I was 13 I played games all day on my iPod touch.

I am with Android all the way unless the Iphone comes out with dual GSM CDMA support built in then i am Iphone due to the fact that i like to travel with my phone and give my old phones to relatives over seas.

iPhone is better for you if you like games, simplicity and if you are happy with stock features . Android in general is better for modding and upgrading etc. Jailbreak is limited.

just go for iphone
won't regret

ka'cipeder said:
iPhone is better for you if you like games, simplicity and if you are happy with stock features . Android in general is better for modding and upgrading etc. Jailbreak is limited.
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The only thing you can't do with jailbroken iPhone is change kernels,and cpu speed so saying it's limited is really wrong. Jail broken iPhone has lots of possibilities since the apps they have are way more polished than android apps. Idk why would you change cpu speed and kernels anyway they run flawlessly.
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I finally had a chance to play with the SGS2 this morning. Although a very nice phone, I saw nothing better than the Infuse 4G. Everything the SGS2 has the Infuse has or will have except the dual core CPU and NFC. The Infuse display is not only the same as the SGS2, but is also larger. The styles are almost the same, except the Infuse uses an unbroken black-chrome bezel from front to back. The SGS2 uses a partial black-chrome surround around the front.
As for Gingerbread, the Infuse will eventually have that.
My suggestion would be to wait for the iPhone 5 and see how it fares.

iphone it is!!

Killbynature said:
The only thing you can't do with jailbroken iPhone is change kernels,and cpu speed so saying it's limited is really wrong. Jail broken iPhone has lots of possibilities since the apps they have are way more polished than android apps. Idk why would you change cpu speed and kernels anyway they run flawlessly.
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Well for sgs 2 I do change my cpu speed. However not for overclocking, but for underclocking. The thing is that on 800mhz, it still runs like it is on 1.2ghz and can handle anything currently available, so why not just save my phone the waste of using my up battery on something unneeded.

Or...wait for the Nexus Prime. Not only will it decimate iPhone 5 AND the SII specwise, it'll be loaded with ICS. iPhone is seeing the end of it's days and Apple knows it. Thats why all the "groundbreaking" and "game changing" features they're introducing with iOS 5, are features that already are, and have been available on Android since 1.0. They're blatantly copying Android to keep the iPhone relevant. And even if you do go with the SII, it will probably be seeing an ICS update not long after the Prime is released, so you're SII will have just become better(again) than the just released iPhone. Simple decision I think...

At the end of the day, Samsung will always be miles ahead of Apple when it comes to hardware, with things like screen quality and processing power; and this is because Samsung is competing against other manufacturers such as HTC and Motorola, because android users can choose more than one handset (thank God.)
However Apple doesn't really need to compete, its got a following of...I'm not sure tbh, but its enough to make them the richest company in America.
I'm far from a fan of Apple, but I doubt they're too bothered when it comes to who releases the better handset; considering the fanboy following they have.

Well spec wise, i think the Iphone 5 will come out on top with it's sgx 543mp2 GPU. if it performs practically more than 100% better than the Mali on the sgs2 when running a 720p gaming benchmark test, well that's just a huge facepalm right there.
And as said if you want gaming, the iPhone 5 is your bet for now. The iOs platform holds the gaming spotlight right now and will prolly till say the next yr or 8 months till it will share the spotlight with android.